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1: What do you think of illegal immigrants? (31) 2: Estonia??? NO SUCH NATION. (21) 3: Lets discuss the Nazi heritage (87) 4: Is there any point to space-travel? (5) 5: It's okay to punch a Nazi (10) 6: Do you belive in miracles? (30) 7: The end of privacy. The Surveillance Society (4) 8: Nasty, ubiquitous and unloved (4) 9: THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !! (2) 10: What exactly is culture? (3) 11: Debate should be deleted (5) 12: This board is a piece of shit (2) 13: Would you rather have the cure for tinnitus discovered or the cure for cancer discovered? (7) 14: NO, YOU (12) 15: I don't get this attitude (9) 16: Why Japanese do not be able to speak English? (6) 17: Your opinion on WoW addicts/addiction to similar online MMORPGs? (11) 18: Are pedophilia and child pornography wrong? (15) 19: Which state do you hate the most? (21) 20: [LGBT] Iceman is suddenly gay. What gives? (5) 21: im hungry. (6) 22: History of Suicide Attack (15) 23: [Technology] Linux or GNU/Linux? (9) 24: What do you think of illegal immigrants? (40) 25: (´・ω・`)Why does Team Rocket buy a giant robot instead of a shitload of food? (15) 26: evo vs cre vs id (5) 27: Global Warming (13) 28: Something must be done about /dqn/ (13) 29: iIf you had the power to change humanity.. (3) 30: deneld drumpf of hiloli clitton (2) 31: ASS>BOOBS (16) 32: Is goodness of art objective or subjective? (6) 33: social status, anxiety and hubris (1) 34: Legality of porn (8) 35: [2011.03] good bye Japan [2011.03] (6) 36: What really happened on 9/11? (38) 37: Good Things About the US (18) 38: Education + special education = good or bad? (5) 39: Let's Be Honest, Anon. Do you care for Democracy? (34) 40: GPL: Freedom or hypocrisy? (19)

What do you think of illegal immigrants? (31)

1 Name: Citizen : 2006-06-03 20:49 ID:sUPSLY1+

I am a Japanese and living in CA.
I wonder how Americans think about illegal immigrants.

22 Name: Citizen : 2007-01-29 20:24 ID:1Wpy+JI8

>>21
More like "All men are created equal, they have to pay taxes if they want more equality then that."

23 Name: Citizen : 2007-01-29 21:27 ID:m1ADqF60

>>22

Or a permanent underclass...

24 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2009-12-02 00:51 ID:Heaven

Illegal immigrants come over here because we have entitlements that go out to them. Then every ten years or so congress passes an amnesty bill granting citizenship to millions of illegals overnight. It's unconstitutional, it's corrupt, it's downright insanity.

25 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2016-04-17 23:45 ID:bUn3cOXd

illegal immigrants should be expulsed.
>>19
wAsn't it kinda like this in viking-age scandinavia? those who committed some crimes were considered "lawless" and lost all "state" protection.

26 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2016-09-26 12:39 ID:iitv+fup

WALL!

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29 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-03-13 21:44 ID:FmOQQc1X

dicks out for Harambe

30 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-10-01 10:02 ID:Heaven

amusing thread considering the year

31 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-06-15 21:01 ID:Cl/uyreL

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Estonia??? NO SUCH NATION. (21)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-03-20 15:02 ID:fWlf/ezt

800-1200 A.D. Raids and counter-raids by Vikings around the Baltic Sea, including by Estonian Vikings. Most famous of those events is when Estonians kidnapped the Norwegian Queen Astrid and her son and future King, Olaf Trygvesson.

1030 Novgorod’s Prince occupies Tarbatu and founds town of Juryev (now Tartu). Juryev was recaptured and destroyed in 1061 by Estonians who invaded Pskov.

1208 – 1227 Estonia is confronted by, and subsequently converted to, Christianity and is occupied by foreign powers: Teutonic Orders and Danes. The Germans become landed gentry and wield huge influence for 700 years.

1561 Control over Estonia goes to Sweden. This starts the so-called ‘Swedish Golden age in Estonia’.

You can read more here:
http://www.visitestonia.com/en/about-estonia/estonian-culture/estonian-history-a-timeline-of-key-events

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12 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-06 19:51 ID:Ex0+n2cr

I still dont understand how anyone can still support CCCP and communism...
Must be crazy old fags in their 80s...
There is absolutely nothing positive about cccp

Just ask ANYONE from the 1st world who visited ussr in 70s...
Just ugly dull boring grey hellhole

13 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-01-01 11:57 ID:g4t8ArtC

Sweden created Estonia. It is just finnish speaking Swedish town. But what an amazing town...

14 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-03-19 10:02 ID:dntRXUh3

>>12
Not many people do, now there is the SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) which is basically Marxism applied in social rather than economic terms using capitalism as the engine this time around. There's always a bunch of assholes trying to subjugate others for their own selfish or utopian desires.

15 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-06-01 23:53 ID:tjXX8t7X

Estonia has a Texas themed restaurant, so its pretty much a legitimate nation in Texas's eyes. If that means anything.

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18 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-03-14 14:18 ID:m5Xdgvgn

dicks out for Harambe

19 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-06-02 19:02 ID:8vTsKSyg

20 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-06-06 08:19 ID:8vTsKSyg

Hi, I am from Russia, Moscow and I visited Estonia in 2013. I must say that I was very much impressed with Tallinn, it is a beautiful european city (which I can't say about my native town, Moscow) blooming with tourists from all over the world, and personally I believe that Estonia will be the second Finland by 2050. I did not participate in the illegal occupation of Estonia and I want to say that not all russians are like that...

21 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-06-09 14:17 ID:Heaven

yeah, and Russin will always remain Russia.

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Lets discuss the Nazi heritage (87)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-08-28 11:22 ID:3uV9qtXy

You may post whatever interests you

I like watching Nazi parades and look at beautiful Nazi leaders
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/575/11ribbentrop.jpg

78 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-01-31 08:27 ID:J0BVaAkS

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79 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-01-31 11:00 ID:Heaven

I do not support Hitler or anything, but I do hate jews and blacks

80 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-02-17 20:49 ID:J0BVaAkS

dont joke with Hitler.

81 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-02-17 21:13 ID:J0BVaAkS

無神論

82 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-09 22:41 ID:Heaven

they laughed at Rosenberg and didn't listen to him, so in the end they had lost the war.

83 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-17 13:21 ID:t4itlRs5

84 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-19 14:29 ID:t4itlRs5

85 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-19 18:20 ID:t4itlRs5

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87 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-06-02 12:45 ID:t4itlRs5

I dunno but maybe jews are not that bad... who knows

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Is there any point to space-travel? (5)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-09-08 03:54 ID:dNB93Xj+

I can't see any reason to waste any time on it. In the end, isn't all we need already here? Would life in space even be sustainable?

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-09-17 14:25 ID:K5nDobr+

I agree with you
fuck space

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-06 15:08 ID:dUOv/Xr0

To let the human race live on and not end it with the unavoidable end of the world.

4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-03-12 13:29 ID:Imvv6CJV

dicks out for Harambe

5 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-19 14:35 ID:MVJAEr3s

>>3

pls read something about black holes

the death of our universe is inevitable

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It's okay to punch a Nazi (10)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-10-30 23:31 ID:I+G9D4rt

It's okay to punch a Nazi

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-18 21:25 ID:TkopAkk6

It's okay to have a black kid

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-18 21:51 ID:TkopAkk6

all people are equal, so it is okay to punch a black kid

4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-18 22:10 ID:TkopAkk6

It's okay to have a gay son

5 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-19 08:04 ID:TkopAkk6

6 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-21 21:25 ID:TkopAkk6

It is okay to deport an illegal alien.

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8 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-26 13:51 ID:TkopAkk6

The teaching of history should convey only facts and be free from political motives, personal opinions, biases, propaganda, and other common tactics of distortion. Every claim that is made about history should also be accompanied by documentation proving its basis. Only responsible scholarship and teaching should be permitted. Those who intend to support particular political interests and agendas should have their biased historical interpretations criticized for lacking proof.

9 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-16 14:11 ID:Heaven

It's okay to punch back!

10 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-17 17:43 ID:kQiuLueB

(☞゚∀゚)☞

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Do you belive in miracles? (30)

1 Name: Mrhappy : 2009-06-04 13:44 ID:Jo0HB5OY

To start off let me say that I am an atheist, But not to long ago consented myself a deist. Now I have never beloved that A god or gods have any say in what goes on in our life. Just created the universe and let it be. But living in the bible belt of Texas I know for a fact that I am one of the only ones in my tri-county area to thank like this,
To start off let me say that I am an atheist, But not to long ago consented myself a deist. Now I have never beloved that A god or gods have any say in what goes on in our life. Just created the universe and let it be. But living in the bible belt of Texas I know for a fact that I am one of the only ones in my tri-county area to thank like this,
Now to my question, Do you personally believe in miracles? And if so how do you know from an objective stand point that they were miracles? Ex, A man has cancer, it seems without doubt he’s going to die still his family prays for him, and somehow he makes a full recovery. The family being a very religious one claims god is to thank. But a deist/atheist point of view is “well he would have gotten better in time with or without prayer.” We Need much more irrefutable proof of a miracle, its like I always said,
God seems to help those with curable sickness but will never grow back an amputees leg.
God seems to help those with curable sickness but will never grow back an amputees leg.

21 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-14 16:55 ID:tRMWLDnF

>>19
We are very pleased to hear of your improving health, but when you speak of "ulcers," what do you mean, exactly? Are you speaking of a skin ulcer, a stomach ulcer which apparently can be mimicked by gastric reflux disorder, or something else?

22 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-22 15:55 ID:RK/RlkrE

miracle = act of god
act of god = macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event
macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event = violation of macroscopic causality
violation of macroscopic causality = macroscopic nonlinear event
macroscopic nonlinear event = macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event
macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event = mircale
miracle = act of god

therefore if god exists, the stupid fuck can't explain himself very well

23 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-27 18:33 ID:tRMWLDnF

Perhaps God does it for the lulz. What if He is trolling us all?

24 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-30 01:03 ID:QeVmw+Rk

>>20

Wait a second... that was your argument?

Oh, I think we are "done" here...

>>21

Stomach ulcers of which the doctors took photographs during the diagnosis.

It's no use being dumb around the issue, God called me personally.

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26 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-03-14 14:19 ID:uSDCRCSY

dicks out for Harambe

27 Name: Traparegay : 2017-10-17 16:15 ID:3O1U55XL

kill yourself

28 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-02-17 21:47 ID:+DPSTbyi

無神論

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30 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-17 15:24 ID:bazcX/HD

no

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The end of privacy. The Surveillance Society (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-14 16:40 ID:9jYLvW8g

« The right to be left alone.» For many this phrase, made famous by Louis Brandeis, an American Supreme Court justice, captures the essence of a notoriously slippery, but crucial concept. Drawing the boundaries of privacy has always been tricky. Most people have long accepted the need to provide some information about themselves in order to vote, work, shop, pursue a business, socialise or even borrow a library book. But ex¬ercising control over who knows what about you has also come to be seen as an essential feature of a civilised society.
Totalitarian excesses have made «Big Brother» one of the 20th cen¬tury's most frightening bogeymen. Some right of privacy, however quali¬fied, has been a major difference between democracies and dictatorships. An explicit right to privacy is now enshrined in scores of national Con¬stitutions as well as in international human-rights treaties. Without the «right to be left alone,» to shut out on occasion the prying eyes and im¬portunities of both government and society, other political and civil liber¬ties seem fragile. Today most people in rich societies assume that, pro¬vided they obey the law, they have a right to enjoy privacy whenever it suits them.
They are wrong. Despite a raft of laws, treaties and constitutional pro¬visions, privacy has been eroded for decades. This trend is now likely to accelerate sharply. The cause is the same as that which alarmed Brandeis when he first popularised his phrase in an article in 1890: Technological change, in his day it was the spread of photography and cheap printing that posed the most immediate threat to privacy. In our day it is the com¬puter. The quantity of information that is now available to governments and companies about individuals would have horrified Brandeis. But the power to gather and disseminate data electronically is growing so fast that it raises an even more unsettling question: in 20 years' time, will there be any privacy left to protect?

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2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-14 16:40 ID:9jYLvW8g

The trade in consumer infor¬mation has hugely expanded in the past ten years. One single company, Acxiom Corporation in Conway, Arkansas, has a database combining public and consumer information that covers 95% of American house¬holds. Is there anyone left on the planet who does not know that their use of the Internet is being recorded by somebody, somewhere?
Firms are as interested in their employees as in their customers. A 1997 survey by the American Management Association of 900 large companies found that nearly two-thirds admitted to some form of elec¬tronic surveillance of their own workers. Powerful new software makes it easy for bosses to monitor and record not only all telephone conversa¬tions, but every keystroke and e-mail message as well.
Information is power, so it is hardly surprising that governments are as keen as companies to use data-processing technology. They do this for many entirely legitimate reasons — tracking benefit claimants, delivering better health care, fighting crime, pursuing terrorists. But it inevitably means more government surveillance.
A controversial law passed in 1994 to aid law enforcement requires telecoms firms operating in America to install equipment that allows the government to intercept and monitor all telephone and data communications, although disputes between the firms and the FBI have delayed its implementation. Intelligence agencies from America, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand jointly monitor all international satellite-telecommunications traffic via a system called « Echelon» that can pick specific words or phrases from hundreds of thousands of messages.

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4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-05-01 22:16 ID:xlwhi8mm

What right have you to spy into my affairs?

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Nasty, ubiquitous and unloved (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-15 16:58 ID:og/N+d0F

Skinheads have been frightening a lot of people in post-communists Central Europe, but several governments are trying to control them
Among the countless plaques and memorials in the ancient bit of Hungary's capital overlooking the Danube is one that mourns German and Hungarian soldiers who died trying to break out of Buda Castle at the end of the second world war. This was where, on February 13th, 500-odd neo-Nazi skinheads from around Europe gathered to lament the passing on the « SS heroes», after which they headed off to a nightclub called the Viking. When police appeared at the club and started asking for pass¬ports, the skinheads rioted. Several policemen ended up in hospital, 30 foreign skinheads were arrested, six of whom were quickly tried and found guilty of assault. So it goes for skinheads: thuggery at home pil¬grimages to Nazi memorials and scrapes with the law abroad.
Do not expect an eloquent exchange of opinions with Central Europe's shaven heads. When interviewed, they say little, standing arms crossed, fists clenched, eyes burning. Nor are their dogs, often pit bulls with sharpened incisors, much more friendly. The skinheads' preferred method of communication is a boot swiftly and repeatedly administered in the face of a prone victim, though in one recent attack Slovak skin¬heads did use baseball bats to beat a gypsy boy almost to death. Their fa¬vourite targets are indeed gypsies, followed by African students, sundry other ethnic minorities, drug addicts and the homeless.
There are differences between an average West European skinhead and his counterpart farther east. Not all western ones are neo-Nazis; not all are violent; some even call themselves «anti-racists», and enjoy Ja¬maican reggae music. There are anarchist skinheads in the West, even glad-to-be-gay skinheads. But in Central Europe to be a skinhead is, on the whole, to be violent. Post-communist skinheads tend to swallow a mix of white supremacy, neo-Nazi dogma, and nationalism tailored to the country in question.

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-15 16:58 ID:og/N+d0F

Their numbers vary from country to country, but have been going up. Government and police tend to deflate figures; human-rights groups and the skinheads themselves usually bump them up. One serious study, by the Anti-Defamation League in New York, reckons that, of some 70,000 hardcore neo-Nazi skinheads worldwide, Central Europe now accounts for a good quarter.
Last month, working together with the Czech secret service, police ar¬rested 12 leading skinheads said to belong to the Czech chapter of a Brit¬ish-based «Blood and Honour» gang. They also confiscated neo-Nazi propaganda due to be sold at a skinhead concert, and declared that neo-Nazis across the country had suffered a crippling blow.

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-15 16:59 ID:og/N+d0F

Human-rights watchers are less sure. Skinhead groups are well run. They distribute propaganda printed by American neo-Nazis in various languages and send out «skinzines» illegally through the post. The Czechs alone have 15 of them. They are nasty, but it may be hard to pin charges of inciting hatred on the arrested skinheads.
Still, many Central Europeans are trying to stem the skinhead tide. A few days after the riot in the Viking club, several thousand Hungarians gathered to protest against racism. Judges are being sent on courses to make them more aware of racially motivated crimes. The police are hiring gypsy advisers. It is only a start. But the alarm bells have rung: more and more decent Central Europeans reckon that something must be done.

4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-04-15 17:09 ID:og/N+d0F

OBONGO GO BACK TO CONGO

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THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !! (2)

1 Name: THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !!PLn6PKe7 : 2017-04-11 01:33 ID:nwRcPMbJ

THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !!

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2018-02-17 21:47 ID:rIGz3dJJ

無神論

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What exactly is culture? (3)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-08-12 21:58 ID:WUjjl0rr

Thoughts?

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3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-11-06 12:08 ID:21YbQ+U0

dicks out for Harambe

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