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1: NO, YOU (12) 2: Do you belive in miracles? (26) 3: Estonia??? NO SUCH NATION. (18) 4: I don't get this attitude (9) 5: Would you rather have the cure for tinnitus discovered or the cure for cancer discovered? (5) 6: What do you think of illegal immigrants? (29) 7: Why Japanese do not be able to speak English? (6) 8: Lets discuss the Nazi heritage (72) 9: Is there any point to space-travel? (4) 10: Your opinion on WoW addicts/addiction to similar online MMORPGs? (11) 11: Are pedophilia and child pornography wrong? (15) 12: Which state do you hate the most? (21) 13: [LGBT] Iceman is suddenly gay. What gives? (5) 14: im hungry. (6) 15: History of Suicide Attack (15) 16: [Technology] Linux or GNU/Linux? (9) 17: What do you think of illegal immigrants? (40) 18: (´・ω・`)Why does Team Rocket buy a giant robot instead of a shitload of food? (15) 19: evo vs cre vs id (5) 20: Global Warming (13) 21: Something must be done about /dqn/ (13) 22: iIf you had the power to change humanity.. (3) 23: deneld drumpf of hiloli clitton (2) 24: ASS>BOOBS (16) 25: Debate should be deleted (4) 26: Is goodness of art objective or subjective? (6) 27: social status, anxiety and hubris (1) 28: Legality of porn (8) 29: What exactly is culture? (2) 30: [2011.03] good bye Japan [2011.03] (6) 31: What really happened on 9/11? (38) 32: Good Things About the US (18) 33: Education + special education = good or bad? (5) 34: Let's Be Honest, Anon. Do you care for Democracy? (34) 35: GPL: Freedom or hypocrisy? (19) 36: [INTERNET] Should the Internet become neutral? (25) 37: double standards, marketing and job applications (2) 38: Strauss-Howe Generational Theory (6) 39: Do you support independence of Taiwan? (53) 40: Che Guavara, admirable or dispicable? (14)

NO, YOU (12)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2010-11-17 09:38 ID:KM47GxK3

IN THIS THREAD WE REFUTE EVERYTHING

3 Name: Homer : 2011-05-26 12:41 ID:X6hCSHqa

Yes, we do.

4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-05-28 14:36 ID:4UstZ5ot

>>3
Refuted!

5 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-06-10 23:16 ID:MbN4Z6b5

>>4, is this the five-minute argument or the full half-hour?

6 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-06-13 07:09 ID:4UstZ5ot

>>5
It looks like my opponent in the corner over there is getting flustered

7 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-07-31 15:58 ID:RnXemD3e

>>6 No he isn't!

8 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-08-02 22:10 ID:UwTDHAM2

<<0
Seems this topic is nonsense.It makes sense (no the other way) doesn't it ?

9 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-10-29 18:54 ID:wjObGiVl

>>7
Your refusal to admit the facts only confirms your state of denial!

10 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2011-11-08 09:12 ID:3l8wu+P5

>>9
You're the one that doesn't know the facts here!

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Do you belive in miracles? (26)

1 Name: Mrhappy : 2009-06-04 13:44 ID:Jo0HB5OY

To start off let me say that I am an atheist, But not to long ago consented myself a deist. Now I have never beloved that A god or gods have any say in what goes on in our life. Just created the universe and let it be. But living in the bible belt of Texas I know for a fact that I am one of the only ones in my tri-county area to thank like this,
To start off let me say that I am an atheist, But not to long ago consented myself a deist. Now I have never beloved that A god or gods have any say in what goes on in our life. Just created the universe and let it be. But living in the bible belt of Texas I know for a fact that I am one of the only ones in my tri-county area to thank like this,
Now to my question, Do you personally believe in miracles? And if so how do you know from an objective stand point that they were miracles? Ex, A man has cancer, it seems without doubt he’s going to die still his family prays for him, and somehow he makes a full recovery. The family being a very religious one claims god is to thank. But a deist/atheist point of view is “well he would have gotten better in time with or without prayer.” We Need much more irrefutable proof of a miracle, its like I always said,
God seems to help those with curable sickness but will never grow back an amputees leg.
God seems to help those with curable sickness but will never grow back an amputees leg.

17 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-06-22 19:00 ID:8yAZNeS5

>>15-16
>>13-14 here, thanks for the kind words. Actually I've never been a member of a debate club, and have merely been observing the masters at work in comment threads on ScienceBlogs etc. I'm convinced that my flatmate, who is actually studying for a BA in Rhetoric, could run circles around my arguments. It took me almost three hours to write up those posts, too.

18 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-06-24 22:00 ID:Heaven

>>17
Well, one thing I've always liked about slow text boards is the effort people are willing to put into their posts. Really makes sites like 4-ch worth reading.

19 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-12 08:20 ID:iJmbXGmb

Since there seems to be a refuter here, I'll leave my experience mentioned:

I had ulcers and they healed in a nights sleep.

Explain the miracle, I'll add more later, I've seen (and been posessed by) demons, so gl.

But I will start with something soft, such as my now gone ulcers.

20 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-14 00:04 ID:xFd6A3mh

>>19
It was something we can't explain via our current idea of science but definitely isn't God.

What now, theists?

21 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-14 16:55 ID:tRMWLDnF

>>19
We are very pleased to hear of your improving health, but when you speak of "ulcers," what do you mean, exactly? Are you speaking of a skin ulcer, a stomach ulcer which apparently can be mimicked by gastric reflux disorder, or something else?

22 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-22 15:55 ID:RK/RlkrE

miracle = act of god
act of god = macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event
macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event = violation of macroscopic causality
violation of macroscopic causality = macroscopic nonlinear event
macroscopic nonlinear event = macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event
macroscopic instantaneous non-deterministic event = mircale
miracle = act of god

therefore if god exists, the stupid fuck can't explain himself very well

23 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-27 18:33 ID:tRMWLDnF

Perhaps God does it for the lulz. What if He is trolling us all?

24 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2012-07-30 01:03 ID:QeVmw+Rk

>>20

Wait a second... that was your argument?

Oh, I think we are "done" here...

>>21

Stomach ulcers of which the doctors took photographs during the diagnosis.

It's no use being dumb around the issue, God called me personally.

25 Name: thgtgyh : 2012-07-31 20:58 ID:XLl2pJNn

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Estonia??? NO SUCH NATION. (18)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-03-20 15:02 ID:fWlf/ezt

800-1200 A.D. Raids and counter-raids by Vikings around the Baltic Sea, including by Estonian Vikings. Most famous of those events is when Estonians kidnapped the Norwegian Queen Astrid and her son and future King, Olaf Trygvesson.

1030 Novgorod’s Prince occupies Tarbatu and founds town of Juryev (now Tartu). Juryev was recaptured and destroyed in 1061 by Estonians who invaded Pskov.

1208 – 1227 Estonia is confronted by, and subsequently converted to, Christianity and is occupied by foreign powers: Teutonic Orders and Danes. The Germans become landed gentry and wield huge influence for 700 years.

1561 Control over Estonia goes to Sweden. This starts the so-called ‘Swedish Golden age in Estonia’.

You can read more here:
http://www.visitestonia.com/en/about-estonia/estonian-culture/estonian-history-a-timeline-of-key-events

Post too long. Click to view the whole post or the thread page.

9 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-05 23:57 ID:Heaven

10 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-05 23:59 ID:Heaven

11 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-06 14:26 ID:b2xrAk6Z

death to communism

12 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-06 19:51 ID:Ex0+n2cr

I still dont understand how anyone can still support CCCP and communism...
Must be crazy old fags in their 80s...
There is absolutely nothing positive about cccp

Just ask ANYONE from the 1st world who visited ussr in 70s...
Just ugly dull boring grey hellhole

13 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-01-01 11:57 ID:g4t8ArtC

Sweden created Estonia. It is just finnish speaking Swedish town. But what an amazing town...

14 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-03-19 10:02 ID:dntRXUh3

>>12
Not many people do, now there is the SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) which is basically Marxism applied in social rather than economic terms using capitalism as the engine this time around. There's always a bunch of assholes trying to subjugate others for their own selfish or utopian desires.

15 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-06-01 23:53 ID:tjXX8t7X

Estonia has a Texas themed restaurant, so its pretty much a legitimate nation in Texas's eyes. If that means anything.

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I don't get this attitude (9)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-05 12:46 ID:g3W6KG2O

Why does everyone seem to think people who aren't NEETs, hikkis or loners are automatically shit posters?
http://4-ch.net/tech/kareha.pl/1427317119/4
http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1219774330/1

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-05 18:02 ID:Heaven

Copied from the IRC:
<richardus> well, for once in their life the neets are the in group, they want to cling onto their status so they say stuff like that
<richardus> it's like how the american state of mississippi keeps the confederate flag on their state flag
<richardus> mississippi is by far the worst state in the union, nothing going on there, and has been that way for years
<richardus> but when it was part of the american confederacy it was part of the in group for once
<richardus> so they cling to that tooth and nail

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-07 17:45 ID:Heaven

This thread has been advertised elsewhere on the internet:
https://hikkichan.com/hikki/res/4905.html
http://4x13.net/neet/kareha.pl/1449509985

4 Name: 1 : 2015-12-07 17:59 ID:g3W6KG2O

I'm sorry, I really should have said 'some people' instead of saying 'everyone' rhetorically like that.

5 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-07 18:27 ID:Heaven

The posts you linked seem self-explanatory to me.

6 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-07 22:30 ID:g3W6KG2O

>>5
Are you sure?
To me it looked like they were just asserting it.

7 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-08 07:39 ID:Heaven

>>6
same difference

8 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-12-08 09:15 ID:Heaven

>>7
Are you saying that asserting something is a good argument?

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Would you rather have the cure for tinnitus discovered or the cure for cancer discovered? (5)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-04-27 02:19 ID:/xTZk8MY

?

2 Name: Quentin Winsterford!bEbcGEQx7M : 2014-04-29 06:35 ID:+vQXIwKz

cancer

the prevention for tinnitus is to inform teenagers that some advice people give to teenagers, like keeping the volume down on their headphones, is actually good advice and not some attempt by the man to put them down

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4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-03-13 21:44 ID:ycdfSjoh

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5 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2017-03-14 07:27 ID:y8K0bZSg

Tinnitus, because it affects me personally and I first noticed it before I had any opportunities to destroy my ears. Some people are just born with it.

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What do you think of illegal immigrants? (29)

1 Name: Citizen : 2006-06-03 20:49 ID:sUPSLY1+

I am a Japanese and living in CA.
I wonder how Americans think about illegal immigrants.

20 Name: Citizen : 2007-01-26 22:06 ID:f/K/04Gn

>>19
Sounds fucked up lawl. USA is supposed to welcome immigrants and immigrants are supposed to have a future here. Most people who are bitching about immigration are bitching about illegal immigration anyway.

21 Name: Citizen : 2007-01-27 02:13 ID:m1ADqF60

>>19

All men are created equal ...
But some are more equal than others.

22 Name: Citizen : 2007-01-29 20:24 ID:1Wpy+JI8

>>21
More like "All men are created equal, they have to pay taxes if they want more equality then that."

23 Name: Citizen : 2007-01-29 21:27 ID:m1ADqF60

>>22

Or a permanent underclass...

24 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2009-12-02 00:51 ID:Heaven

Illegal immigrants come over here because we have entitlements that go out to them. Then every ten years or so congress passes an amnesty bill granting citizenship to millions of illegals overnight. It's unconstitutional, it's corrupt, it's downright insanity.

25 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2016-04-17 23:45 ID:bUn3cOXd

illegal immigrants should be expulsed.
>>19
wAsn't it kinda like this in viking-age scandinavia? those who committed some crimes were considered "lawless" and lost all "state" protection.

26 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2016-09-26 12:39 ID:iitv+fup

WALL!

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Why Japanese do not be able to speak English? (6)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-07-17 07:02 ID:m1qgAkjO

Japanese are trying to speak English (;_;)
http://hayabusa.open2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1405572139/

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-07-20 09:29 ID:19qEkmcL

Oh, very easy. Because they want to use Japanese language for their emotion, simply reason.

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-07-22 15:59 ID:B8P/Z9R5

It is quite OK, I've seen much worse examples of Engrish.

4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-03 20:10 ID:bdGqkclK

Because their mother tongue is Japanese. The same reason why foreigners cant speak Japanese.

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Lets discuss the Nazi heritage (72)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-08-28 11:22 ID:3uV9qtXy

You may post whatever interests you

I like watching Nazi parades and look at beautiful Nazi leaders
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/575/11ribbentrop.jpg

63 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-12-22 23:27 ID:pTfJ6vbQ

>>62

http://billionnews.ru/2011/01/21/10-samyx-vliyatelnyx-liderov-v-detstve.html

Такое ощущение что Гитлер - мой бывший одноклассник

64 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-12-22 23:42 ID:pTfJ6vbQ

Кстати лет пять назад под кремлем нашли .... белых тараканов

65 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-12-23 00:18 ID:Heaven

>>64

Мэр Москвы Юрий Лужков считает, что река Неглинка, протекающая под землей в трубе на глубине около 5 метров, не опасна для фундамента Большого театра. На церемонии открытия отреставрированного главного фасада Большого театра он сказал, что единственное, что там является страшным – то, что там живут и благоденствуют 10-сантиметровые тараканы.

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=356427

Эта новость говорит о многом.

66 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-12-25 16:41 ID:zz1zW8AK

СМЕРТЬ НАЦИЗМУ
НАЦИСТЫ УБИЛИ ВСЮ МОЮ СЕМЬЮ

67 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-12-25 20:10 ID:Heaven

Нацисты убили 27 миллионов жителей СССР
Компенсацию мы НЕ получили

68 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-12-31 16:56 ID:Heaven

>>67

Кто мы вообще такие чтобы компенсацию от немцев получать?
Визу в Германию сложно даже получить

Мы все еще все убогие славяне которых весь мир презирает

69 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-01-01 11:56 ID:Heaven

Нацисты - вечный позор для Германии и человечества. Была страна Шиллера и Канта, стала страной Гитлера и Геринга. Форму конечно суперскую сделали.
Смерть нацизму и всем этим мразям.
Люблю Гете

70 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-01-01 11:59 ID:IUlKzTMG

Всем нацистам читать вот это:

www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/26403356/

71 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2015-01-01 12:13 ID:IUlKzTMG

>>69
>>70

СМЕРТЬ ВСЕМ НАЦИСТСКИМ СВИНЬЯМ

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Is there any point to space-travel? (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-09-08 03:54 ID:dNB93Xj+

I can't see any reason to waste any time on it. In the end, isn't all we need already here? Would life in space even be sustainable?

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-09-17 14:25 ID:K5nDobr+

I agree with you
fuck space

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2014-10-06 15:08 ID:dUOv/Xr0

To let the human race live on and not end it with the unavoidable end of the world.

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Your opinion on WoW addicts/addiction to similar online MMORPGs? (11)

1 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-11-17 21:43 ID:CbmgVkEq

I have an accomplice who, whilst is a great guy, has permanently red eyes, greasy hair, dirty fingernails and stinky pits.
He is skinny and lean, good with computers and always, ALWAYS tired. His work at college is of an average standard - he will not fail, but he won't pass with flying colours, either.

He plays WoW.
On hearing of the upcoming release of Wrath of the Lich King, it was all he spoke about and thought about until it's release. He was not in class on the day it was released, and by the time we next saw him, he looked as if he'd just run a marathon of some kind. He proceeded to proudly tell us that he'd just gained Level 76, about a day or two after WOTLK's release...
This was met with shock and disgust from some of my peers, but others merely heralded him as some sort of icon.
I personally don't know what to say. I love videogames. I know why they have such appeal. But I wouldn't sacrifice things like hygiene or relationships for it... that's kind of pushing it.
It's getting to the point where people are commenting on how bad he looks and sometimes smells. I've tried telling him he should maybe come out with us on weekends but he doesn't listen. And every evening he BOOKS IT like a motherfucker home to go and play WoW.
Anybody else witness to something like this? What do you think about it?

2 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-11-18 13:37 ID:sJA38Va+

My best friend recently broke his WoW addiction. Doing great in college, quite intelligent, et cetera. He was in a state worse than that - in addition to the horrible hygiene he also gained upwards up 50 lbs. Given that he's still retained his poor health, he also gained something else. Apparently he has become quite fascinated with physics. Around two weeks after quitting his obsessive gaming he told me how amazing he found the world to be, how complex, all that jazz, and now he wants to study physics. Needless to say, and being a physics major myself, I was pretty happy to hear this.

So - yes, I have witnessed it. And it should be obvious that gaming addiction often immerses a person to the point where an external frame of reference is highly likely to be ignored, which leads to more productive thought processes being tunneled to accommodate for the mechanics of said game.

3 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-11-18 14:10 ID:QAVH1IlZ

Yeah, it's pretty serious when it takes over your life. An ex housemate used to be hooked to the point he started skipping work; couldn't pay bills and refused to do any cleaning etc.

As you gain levels in the game, you lose levels in real life.

4 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-11-28 19:53 ID:JoNl5Eaa

I'm currently letting my life slip into economic despair while playing WoW. That doesn't mean that WoW is blame directly, but that I'm the sort of person who would use it that way.

What's interesting about the game mechanics as compared to other games is that it really only takes an hour or two on a max level character to understand the game, maybe a day or two to do instances and pvp stuff. Everything after that is just the bullshit scaling of your characters items, nothing has actually changed other than your character's power.

Think I might quit now (again).

5 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-11-29 00:33 ID:Heaven

>>4
Sell your account on ebay and use the money to go out / do something else. How much are you spending monthly on WoW?

6 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-11-29 06:31 ID:roPzDXxd

#5's idea is good. at least sell it and get rid of everything then move on to something else. I played an mmorpg for 6 years and i miss it sometimes but having many more offline friends now has made me happier in a sense.

7 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2008-12-01 07:00 ID:Heaven

Well the problem is I'm agoraphobic, so online activities are the only hobbies I can stick with. I also have a skin disease so I can't have a girlfriend(or friends really).

>>5
Just 15$ a month.

I guess if I sold it I would consider getting some camping gear, because that's something I could do alone and without being seen by people.

8 Name: Orange : 2009-07-20 11:35 ID:cSvw/ZTT

I've played WOW for a short period of time, It was only short because I found it boring and had a small appeal to most of the other MMORPG games that I have played.
I find the quality of the game low, I guess this is what drives me away from it mostly.
Also the aspect of paying for the game.
Frankly I found it boring and couldn't even begin to immerse myself for more than an hour at a time.

9 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2009-07-20 15:32 ID:FpkjsBOn

>>7

> I also have a skin disease so I can't have a girlfriend(or friends really).

You're not the only one with said skin disease... if it's that bad join a support group for said skin disease and you have instant friends who can relate... maybe some in your area

10 Name: Anonymous Speaker : 2009-09-28 13:40 ID:KPj+Uprd

>>7 I know how you feel. Not entirely but partially. I also have some sort of skin disease or dry skin, really dry skin. Girls hated me and guys despise me. However it just made me more resolve in getting better so i started in trying a lot of stuff to keep my skin hydrate or dead skin to peel off. Finally i succeeded and no my days are getting better.

And about the game.... i just use it as a conversation topic with my friend.

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