Fashion @4-ch

Discuss anything about fashion, style and personal grooming. In the meantime, cosplay is allowed but if it becomes the dominant topic of conversation, it'll get moved to its own board.
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Growing hair out (12)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-12-09 00:20 ID:qCvC3mN9

Okay, first off, I'm a guy, but all three genders are welcome to participate in this thread.

I've always had short hair, but I decided to let it grow and see what happened. Four months later, it reaches down to the back of my neck. The horrible phase where it's all over the place and you can't do anything with it (a phase that a long-haired friend warned me about) seems to be pretty much over. It can look kinda wild between shampoos (the only hair care product I'm using, BTW), but sometimes in a good way.

I'm learning that the way hair is disheveled makes a huge impact. Down onto my forehead: hot. Pointing up behind the ears: gay. No, I don't mean bad. I looked in the mirror that day and thought, "Dammit, I really look like I'm gay!" Man, I worked extra hard to fix that one. But that hasn't happened lately. All in all, I'm quite satisfied with this long hair experiment.

So, to the other long-haired people out there, what are your experiences? Use conditioner? Shampoo how often? Do you get your hair professionally trimmed or not cut it at all? Let's talk, Anonymous Stylists!

3 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-12-11 10:43 ID:c5BXzUEV

tied them into a ponytail is the only thing i do when i grow my hair until it almost reached my butt, or go to a hair dresser and ask them to make a good long haired style

4 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-12-15 13:24 ID:9veXJOp5

When you run your fingers along your scalp and it doesn't feel all nice and clean, it's time to shampoo. I'm pretty sure this is about every second day for most people. Use conditioner every time, or every second time to keep it shiny and nie looking, and in good condition.

5 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-15 06:46 ID:hbMDSd7g

I AM THE FOURTH GENDER AND I FEEL YOUR DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MY KIND ACUTELY

6 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-28 08:50 ID:q70VsZtk

i'm growing all hair on my body now for 3 months (4?), including facial hair. i kinda look fuzzy, and after a few days of not showering, i look like a mad scientist, i.e. hair sticking out in all directions. i like the effect it has on people. i talk like a normal person, i say things a normal, fairly intelligent person would say, but at the same time i look like a russian rapist of some sort. i love how it confuses people.

after a shower it looks like shit though. i'm hoping that will pass after it has gained a certain length. though if it hasn't grown past my neck by this summer, i'm gonna go for the bold look again. i'm gonna keep the fuzzy caveman-like facial hair, though. fuck shaving.

7 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-29 01:28 ID:qyWJCjz9

The fuzzy caveman is NOT good looking. Even if it "looks cool". Many friends of mine went for it, only to find out they're better off shaving.

8 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-29 11:55 ID:k1eyYnVh

One thing a beard/stubble really needs to work is for your follicles to be even across your face. For instance, at the moment my cheeks have yet to catch up with the density of stubble as my jawline and neck. So I shave every day because it looks neater. I like having stubble though, so if my cheeks do catch up, I'll probably start to do stubble, but keep it shaped.

9 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-29 20:31 ID:hbMDSd7g

I AM THE FIFTH GENDER AND I BELIEVE THE FOURTH IS SEXIST AGAINST MY KIND BECAUSE WE MAKE A MORE ELEGANT USAGE OF ACUTE ANGLES IN OUR EVERYDAY REPERTOIRE

10 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-30 23:07 ID:xS3nl+xu

Long hair will make you sweat more so be sure to take lots of showers

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-15 07:30 ID:fXqLUHlz

>>9

don't be so obtuse.

12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-16 02:24 ID:hbMDSd7g

>>11

no sir you are the largest angle here
you are so large in fact that you violate the triangle inequality
thus making it necessary to incorporate the fourth dimension into a proper demonstration of your largeness
you fat piece of shit

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Should clothing reflect the person? (15)

1 Name: Chou : 2008-03-09 20:40 ID:mqYl4wDU

I'm really interested in steampunk styled clothing lately, and although I've not made effort to remake my wardrobe (for I am too poor) I've managed to incorporate some steam punk things into my wardrobe. Though I really do love Victorian Sci Fi, I tend to be drawn toward mysticism, the complete opposite of the science-y science of steampunk. This doesn't, however, keep me from lovin ed. science like it deserves to be lo Does this make me a hypocrite?

Even then, should people that dress the complete opposite as their beliefs come with a little disclaimer taped to their back? What about if you dress the way be expect you to, does that make you a conformist?

Society tends to be quite lookist, especially in the US ;_;

6 Name: Chou : 2008-03-10 23:19 ID:mqYl4wDU

>>5

THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT STEAMPUNK FASHION

Now, garters, or no garters?

7 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-11 05:13 ID:Heaven

CLANNAD IS LIFE

8 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-11 05:38 ID:Heaven

TOUHOU HIJACK.

9 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-13 12:09 ID:GnVk78EM

How about you just dress in the cheapest possible clothing you can get that's still functional and don't care about petty crap like looking nice or making your own "style" (which is shared by 5000 other people)?

Then spend the extra money on anime.

10 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-13 12:15 ID:Heaven

>>9 This is my strategy except I also spend it on games, manga, drugs and sex.

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-13 17:09 ID:Og/GW+sY

>>9

I do both. I get good, fashionable stuff from macy's at like 75% off, or from Kohls at 90% off. You don't have to throw big bucks for fashion, just be on the lookout for clearance deals or underestimated brands/companies/stores.

But, you can't just go to thrift stores either. Thrift stores suck nowadays, even for the "vintage" look. You can't really find vintage stuff or good stuff... just cheap, ugly or oversized crap from the last 15 or so years.

>>1
I know what you're talking about. I think I touched upon it in my "Recommend me some shoes!" topic. IMO, if you really don't want to be associated with the connotations of the style you're wearing, either don't wear it or wear something that clashes with it.

>>3

>Why should you care if someone sees you wearing x and assume you're y?
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12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-14 04:39 ID:Heaven

>>9 reported in with some sense for a little renegade action.

Otaku IS a fashion, and it involves spending your money on things besides clothes. Get used to it, emofags.

ps.CLANNAD IS LIFE

13 Name: Chou : 2008-03-15 08:53 ID:mqYl4wDU

>>9
A wonderful plan!

>>11
It's really hard to pull of any kind of non mainstream look in a small area without

a) screwing up real bad

and/or

b) looking like a retard

both of which I want to avoid, so I'll just stick to accesories like key earrings or irritatingly tiny pocketwatches that don't work anymore.

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14 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-10 06:36 ID:DTjoQvZp

>>13
I don't get your attempts at jokes.

>>What about if you dress the way be expect you to, does that make you a conformist?

In what way? That we follow mainstream fashion? Or that you dress according to your subculture? Either way, it doesn't make sense.

15 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-16 02:22 ID:g4NzzVS5

CLANNAD IS LIFE

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Thrift Store Fashion (13)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-01-01 07:21 ID:Ir8DdAUU

Are there any people here that follow this sort of style?♪
I've always liked it, but I've just stuck to a plain skirt-and-tee deal for a long time. That's pretty boring, I think, so I'd like to get more into the thrift and DIY scene. ♪♪
I've been making skirts since I was pretty young, and I'm good enough at crafts and sewing that I can do DIY projects so I don't have a problem with that aspect, but when it comes to shirts and shoes, I'm completely at a loss. I've only ever worn t-shirts and I pretty much have one pair of shoes at a time, so I'm nervous to stray away from that comfort zone, even though I'd really like to.
Any advice for working up to a better style of dress?
Thanks, /fashion/!! ☆

4 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-01-27 03:59 ID:Heaven

Enjoy year old clothes and looking like a tool. You may think it's eccentric, kawaii, unique, nonconformist but it's just making you look poor.

5 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-01-27 06:16 ID:uiFE1MUz

>>4
Obvious troll is obvious.

6 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-01-29 08:24 ID:AcB9Vrt3

>>4 is trying to justify his 200 dollar jeans.

7 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-02-12 07:46 ID:duIuik3T

I loves me some thrift stores. I'm pretty sure I'm the only girl at my uni that regularly wears a lavender velvet suit-jacket and bowler hat.

8 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-02-12 12:47 ID:ssNy5j67

>>7
That's probably because velvet is such a terrible material.

9 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-02-13 14:16 ID:Heaven

Try telling that to the 1980s.

10 Name: Beverly : 2008-02-14 20:21 ID:N09lGIZ1

ooh yeah.
important to work the colors.
wear a purple shirt with a mustard cardigan and some jeans. maybe some red flat shoes.
that's hot.

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-02-21 11:28 ID:eoL4NYJO

I buy most of my stuff from a thrift store because I am poor.

12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-15 07:19 ID:5t1SYjCC

>>7

enjoy being lonely.

13 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-15 13:56 ID:xGnbVwgp

>>12
What does dressing odd have todo with being lonely?

I want to know because I do both. ;_;

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Fat guy clothing (3)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-21 05:32 ID:RcR0i74F

Alright, so look. I'm a fat guy. As in 5x shirt, 62 waist. I find it hard to find clothing for myself that's not a t-shirt or jeans, and I'm really trying hard to -not- wear so many blatantly casual, thrown-together things. Are there any recommendations for what I should look for or try out in terms of clothing that straddles the border between casual and formal that would look good on a man with a very wide waist? Because most men's fashion, from what I've seen, doesn't translate well when its like you've got tires round your body.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

2 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-21 16:57 ID:r2Kuq4do

Well the best advice is to lose some weight. If you're that big it's not healthy, irregardless of any fashion issues.

Having said that, probably the best advice would be to try to get some regular trousers rather than wearing jeans. I'm not sure, but I think that for larger people if you dont get flat-fronted trousers, get ones with pleats (that kinda fold thing) at the waist. I remember hearing that that was good for somebody with quite a large waist, because then it doesnt look quite so much like the fabric is being stretched by the persons size. I've not looked into this myself so you probably want to try on a fwe different pairs.

Also, try a pair of "proper" shoes e.g. not sneakers. They don't have to be ultra-formal (like what you'd wear with a suit) but some well looked after leather shoes make a good impression. I'm not sure whether to suggest trying to find button-up shirts to go with the trousers or stick to t shirts.

If you can't find clothes that fit perfectly the way you want, you could try getting ones that are almost how you want them and then taking them to a tailor to have them adjusted (e.g. sleeves might be too baggy while the shoulders actually fit perfectly etc etc)

3 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-15 07:09 ID:3Fqy3R3V

big & tall.

me i shop at small & short.

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Default Anonymous Name (15)

1 Name: Squeeks : 2007-11-03 15:03 ID:3GOmBIo5

I've decided to create this board, after the request of http://4-ch.net/req/kareha.pl/1188349097/2 . Currently the default anonymous name is "Anonymous Stylist", but I'm sure if you can think of a better name, post it here and if we like it, it'll get used.

6 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-06 00:30 ID:9eNzVPuX

>>4 Gets my vote.

7 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-06 04:47 ID:MROF1VM6

>>4 i like it

8 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-06 14:45 ID:Heaven

>>4 gets my vote

9 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-07 22:42 ID:Heaven

>>4
Jep, that's it, I say.

10 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-07 22:59 ID:Heaven

"I'm totally not gay, but..."

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-15 01:24 ID:XG3cOcDX

Trend Setter

12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-15 06:09 ID:VoOnY7EU

>>4
It's perfect.

13 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-15 11:11 ID:gTuU7+Lf

Cluster Fuck

14 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2007-11-16 22:05 ID:yctxpgmk

"Look at all your different colored hatths!"

15 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-12 17:49 ID:cqfst7JC

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Fashion Photography (3)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-20 23:11 ID:JXnMW9h+

Hi,
Currently I go to a university studying computer engineering and japanese but recently I have become unhappy with computer engineering (but not Japanese) and I was thinking about getting into fashion photography. I was looking in fashion magazines and just seeing this beautiful art form. I just wanted to ask if anyone else was also in or studying to become affilated with the fashion photography industry and how it was? Is it over saturated with photographers and also how demanding and competitive is it? I find this art form so beautiful and breath taking that I just want to start doing it. I don't know anything about photography though but I just would like to know just about the demand for photographers in that industry.
Thank you

2 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-21 22:41 ID:Tazk7a9D

I don't know much about the industry itself, but I have a friend who is going to be attending art school for just that.

Photography is really fun, there are hundreds of good internet resources for people who want to start taking good photos.

3 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-11 02:32 ID:v7sqWvAT

Very small extremely competitive market low pay long hours.

Don't change your major, take up photography as a hobby.

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Best Looking in Asia (23)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-03 16:55 ID:rWyW/ac2

Now in everyone's honest opinion (and no blind patriotism please), which Asian country do you think has the best looking people? And which, the best dressed?

No flame war please. Just want to find out what everyone thinks.

14 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-17 15:46 ID:0a65uTaE

Lebanon.

Hey, it IS an Asian country.

15 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-17 15:46 ID:0a65uTaE

Lebanon.

Hey, it IS an Asian country.

16 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-22 19:19 ID:k38tzVey

Japan, hands down.

17 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-23 16:44 ID:PsLZQwJM

to me its jap.. i'm from asia country i find jap has the most trendy fashion

18 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-24 23:47 ID:AjitutmP

It's definitely Korea. If you have actually traveled to Japan, you'll quickly realize they rank very, very low on the totem as far as looks go. I assume the OP is talking about physical attractiveness and not fashion.

19 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-30 14:41 ID:cYyRX2xd

Singapore or Hong Kong.

20 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 03:48 ID:PaLXDdNb

thailand

21 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 11:56 ID:iPNgZ/OA

Korea!

22 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 14:28 ID:Heaven

>>20
Whaaaaaaaaaaa.

23 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-02 23:18 ID:4KsKorve

>>20 sure, if you like ladyboys

for me I like Hong Kong or Japan, for looks and fashion, but Korea has some vast mainstream appeal, too.

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Why does mens clothes suck? (16)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-07 02:10 ID:O41izTIO

I go to the mall to shop with my girlfriends and they have so many styles and colors to choose from. Forever 21 is one example, there are such a large variety and everything seems stylish.

But then you go to a Men's store and everything is so borrring, the style is never new, just the same old generic shapes. You go to a store like banana and sure it's really nice, but you would never wear the clothes in a casual setting.

I like to wear semi-fitting clothing, boot cut jeans and such. Anything that is falling off just doesn't work for me. I'm very skinny, so it's hard enough to find a small enough size..

you'd think by now people would realize that they're are dresing like they're still in the 90's.

7 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-08 05:23 ID:7OfGmCoz

>If you're looking for more variety in style then you aren't going to find it in the mall. They sell t shirts, polo shirts and buttoned shirts.

Well, the mall does have some stuff, but you really have to look. For one, while I hate Hot Topic as much as the next non-goth/emo, they are occasionally good for something, like interesting pairs of pants/shoes/hair bleach/etc. Just because most of their crowd sucks doesn't mean that everyone who buys something there does. (I'd just like to state that.)

I was at Macy's a few weeks ago, ans surprisingly they had a nice array of styles. They had stuff besides the normal work/casual/urban/skater line up, though it seemed like they were getting rid of the best stuff.

>Boot cut are kind of late 90s, but these days it's either that or skinny jeans - and skinny jeans are for faggots.

Depends on how you wear the jeans. Also, you forgot raw jeans.

8 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-08 09:54 ID:Wz5z8iTD

Also, straight leg jeans are another option. I think that unless you're overweight (OP isn't) generally steer clear of bootcut and go for straight leg that fits nicely (fairly slim, but not tight anywhere)

9 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-08 20:01 ID:H3ryRmGI

dont be gay

10 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-08 22:03 ID:NSVgI6i8

yea, I do agree with the Hot Topic comment, as long as you don't wear everything Hot Topic it works.

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 08:40 ID:/LgN7CSn

>>4

Cosplay advocate, huh?

12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 14:35 ID:YEoLAJ16

Hasn't anyone else picked up that OP sounds like a gay?

13 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 15:16 ID:Wz5z8iTD

>>12

so what?

14 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 17:55 ID:p6tmjeYq

why does OP's grammar sucks?

15 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 21:28 ID:EKvN4392

>>14
Irony.

16 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-02 13:57 ID:WqC5hBMy

>>15
I think 14 was making fun of the OP's grammar.

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Japanese Hairstyles (15)

1 Name: Doyenne : 2008-02-24 05:00 ID:iiz0zLGn

I need help..I want to see some Japanese teen hairstyles..I want to learn how to do it..the more lolita gothic way..

6 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-28 23:03 ID:SI1rKNFx

Keep in mind that everybody has a different hair texture, if you're not Asian it's not going to work out for you, like a nigger trying to do the emo hair.

7 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-29 00:22 ID:mnnnr5E3

OP, check out http://bombhead.com/ - theres a lot of pics of Asian hair styles for both sexes and all lengths. But as >>6 said, everybody has different textures. Asians tend to have very thick hair so when Caucasians attempt to mimic their hair styles it doesn't always turn out.

8 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-21 05:11 ID:2rjTwluV

If you have thick hair like an Asian, tell the stylist to cut your hair thin and kinda short and tell the stylist that you would like to grow your hair long some day.

9 Name: Stylist Otherwise : 2008-04-28 21:36 ID:tzLtTomP

O_O Are we all just going to ignore the insult made by #6?

10 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-29 02:49 ID:Heaven

>>9
Yes. It defeats the purpose of trolling.

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-29 20:14 ID:k66ajXol

>>9

I see no real insult here, only a helpful remark with humorous evidence.

12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-30 05:11 ID:6wY+OFV/

>>11
I've seen the emo hair done by a "nigger" before.

...that idiot.

13 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 11:57 ID:OsL0Fw94

wanker.

14 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 17:40 ID:3X2IBYln

>>12
Well, the emo cut looked authentic.

But the question is, why would you go through so much trouble to get a bad hairstyle like that, that even looks retarded on people who naturally have hair that way? What next, mess up your eyes staring at the sun so that you need glasses? (and I actually know someone who did that.) Heck, emo isn't even a black subculture.

I suppose my point overall was that it could be done, and don't be a racist.

As for you, >>1, try making up your own styles. Don't be one who follows but rather, one who creates. God speed.

15 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-02 08:05 ID:oIcLmSGI

I don't know why people want a Japanese hair style. I have asian hair and I would love to be able to have the Beatles' mop top without looking like a faggot.

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Smoking (18)

1 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-03-31 18:23 ID:p9iP+kH4

Hey guys, I am new to smoking and I was wondering what brands I should try first.

9 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-03 10:15 ID:Heaven

Hobbies forum would probably be the best place. I seem to remember seeing a smoker's thread in there before.

10 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-03 14:43 ID:Heaven

or personnal issues.

11 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-04 02:10 ID:Heaven

I think it says a lot about the person who decides that a smoking thread belongs in /fashion/.

Psst. You don't look cool.

12 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-06 10:24 ID:tujYQvyc

Marlboro reds are good but not for the first time person. For the beginning of your trail to lung cancer, you should start off with menthol cigarettes. They are easier to accept smoking then full flavor. For menthol I would suggest Marlboro Milds, Newports, or any other menthol cigs (just keep away from really cheap cigs unless its rolling tabacco). Rolling tabacco saves money and lasts longer then packs of pre-made cigarettes but there is no filter and can be harsh at first (It's like smoking non-filtered lucky strikes). Really, it comes down to what you like. Also, I am sure you know smoking is bad for you and I am not going to remind you of the dangers (I smoke too and I know its bad for me but I love smoking). Just make sure when you want to quit, if you ever do, the come down is harsh and you'll probably need help.

Smoking hasn't been fashionable since the 1950's. The non-smokers have just become more nazi about living the way they do, which is suppose to be healthier, and have changed the fashion ability of smoking but whatever.

13 Name: June : 2008-04-07 00:58 ID:hNOGDqPT

well, there's normal tobacco as mentioned in 12. they pretty much summed that up there....i like to smoke cloves. same disadvantages as normal cigarettes but better taste and smell. my favorite kind would be djarum cherry or vanilla; the former being the better choice. they are sold in tobacco shops so no point in looking for them in the gas stations or in super markets. give them a try

14 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-04-21 05:25 ID:YyPHpPQe

I don't recommend cloves. They'll tear your throat, and for some people, they're just -too- strongly flavored. If you're looking to smoke to look cool? Start with lights or ultra-lights when it comes to cigarettes. Brands don't matter as much as you think they do, but pick something nice and high quality. Camels are nice. They're also a little more on the fashionable side(as in you won't seem like a redneck) if you go with them.

From a fashion standpoint? Marlboro reds are only acceptable if you're going for a tougher look.

All this doesn't apply, of course, if you use a nice cigarette case. And by nice, I don't mean something out of a convenience store with a picture of Dr. Dre on it.

15 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 13:30 ID:pzCndwQz

Camel lights (blues?) are quite alright, not too strong and personally I think they smell less than for example Marlboros.

16 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 14:31 ID:Heaven

>>15

Too non-smokers, they all smell the same. Bad.

17 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 14:32 ID:Heaven

>>16
*To

18 Name: Anonymous Stylist : 2008-05-01 15:18 ID:OwId1Y4/

>>16

I'm a non smoker and I can stand some of the cigarettes that my friends smoke but can't stand some other brands that other friends smoke. I quite like the smell of some cigarettes (but not when its stale smoke), so they obviously don't all smell the same to non-smokers.

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