the word "gaijin" (152)

1 Name: Oily Skin : 2006-12-28 13:01 ID:K4G+gg8k

Em I the only one under the opinion that the word "gaijin" is on used by the people the word is refering to if even that.

Of what i know thw word gaijin imply a foreigner living in Japan. Now, why are this word so often used on th internet as an word with almost the same significance as the word "noob" or more like "wannabe Japanse noob" word (and yes i know the word wapanese exist)

Can everone please stop use the word gaijin wich is an inuslting word if a foreigner (in Japan) if it's told to him bu a Japanese.

thank you, thank you.

(and im so w8ign for this thred to get spammed with BS)

2 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-28 13:10 ID:02LxcnDQ

what do you propose as an alternative

3 Name: Oily : 2006-12-28 13:13 ID:K4G+gg8k

well actually nothing at all. i just posted my opinion :P

it just buggs me that ppl are using the word as something it's not, but what tha heck!

NOOB NOOB NOOB GAIJIN!!! go home!!!

4 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-28 21:44 ID:Heaven

Gaijin is insulting? What, really?

5 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-29 17:03 ID:d5eFDogs

>>3 idiot.

That's my opinion.

6 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-29 19:01 ID:CDxHxMLx

>>3
It doesn't mean n00b.

I means foreigner.

Or literally, it means "outside person".

外 = Outside

人 = Person

外人 = Gaijin

Learn to speak Japanese before lecturing
people on it dumbass.

7 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-30 03:39 ID:/6HURYM4

I find it interesting that "gaijin" is used more in the sense of "gentile", than as an actually of foreigner. For me, the Japanese are gaijin, because they aren't of my country. Or somesuch shit. But that's not the way most people use it.

8 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-30 04:57 ID:Heaven

>>1
I don't understand what the fuck you're even trying to ask, can someone clarify this for me?

9 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-30 07:14 ID:Heaven

I feel more insulted by you using my language so horribly!

10 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-30 14:06 ID:GkGONmJ0

>>4
It can be, since it is a slang word, as such and derives from 外国人 (lit. outside country person), which is considered a more polite form. I guess it could be the difference between calling a person "black" and calling them "an african-american" &c. Some might find the former to be acceptable, whilst others may feel a little offended, whereis the latter is considered politically correct.

11 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-30 16:54 ID:+bDhsvSL

>what do you propose as an alternative?

Goyjin? :-)

12 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-31 05:40 ID:L55Kq9Z6

yeah, like 10 said, it is derived from the word gaikokujin which lit. means outside country person, so, no real offense is implied.

13 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-31 18:26 ID:/6HURYM4

How come white people are "gaijin" regardless of national origin, but Koreans are "kankokujin"?

14 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-31 19:50 ID:02LxcnDQ

>>13
How come white people are white regardless of national origin?

15 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-31 19:54 ID:Heaven

>>13 Kankokujin means Korean person, as Amerikajin refers to American person and Igirisujin refers to British person. Gaijin refers to anyone from any country other than Japan.

16 Name: fart man : 2007-01-01 10:55 ID:2nmmlLT0

why do u care about the word so much?? they dont mean anything. at least, they dont mean to harm u. And the word is japanese. why pple who cant even speak japanese care so much about the foreign word?? they come to japan, and often dont even try to learn japanese, and care so much about the word. i dont get it.

17 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-01 12:56 ID:Heaven

>>16

Because you're a fucking retard.

18 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-02 07:05 ID:Heaven

because you touch...

19 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-04 12:17 ID:Heaven

...other people in inappropriate places.

20 Name: Oily Skin : 2007-01-08 07:00 ID:K4G+gg8k

>>6 NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

21 Name: SOO-DA : 2007-01-08 07:24 ID:cSJa36QB

I think it's just part of the trend of people using japanese words in their conversations. I'm wapanese and I do it (.____.)

22 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-09 04:43 ID:Heaven

>>21 Please don't.

23 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-09 07:39 ID:iww2Zvc8

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin#Etymology_and_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin#Usage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin#Controversy

Compare it to the word "alien", if alien was modified to mean everyone who didn't have their genetical and cultural origins in the country X (i.e. people who later aquired citizenships do not count). Thing is: Most Japanese people do not feel it's insultive at all. They feel it's a natural way of denoting non-Japanese. (uho! note the "non-Japanese" bit, this is why people who have lived there for decades, adhere to the laws and customs of the society, and have Japanese citizenships find it terribly frustrating that they forever will be seen as "fake" Japanese people..)

24 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-09 21:40 ID:CDxHxMLx

>>20
Then what the fuck are you asking for?

GTFO fag

25 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-15 08:30 ID:U2ash//i

>>23
I can understand that ethnically non-Japanese people who have lived there for most of their lives find it frustrating to be called gaijin. Imagine: you could be born there (to foreign parents), lived there since forever, and people still treat you like a "guest".

26 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-15 12:27 ID:Heaven

>still treat you like a "guest".

isn't that good?

27 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-15 12:36 ID:Y2Eoptvj

>>26
not if you intend to stay for life

then again, there's a special type of hell reserved for that kind of weeaboo

28 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-15 15:36 ID:Heaven

>>27
Keep in mind that it's not just weeaboos who stay for life, and that there are plenty of other reasons to stay in Japan than because NGE's Rei is your 'waifu' and you "need to be close to the motherland!" :-p The weeaboos are in miniority. I was thinking of people who are several generations old immigrants, for instance Chinese etc descendants that have married Japanese. I've been told most Japanese consider the following generations non-Japanese, even if the descendants are just as Japanese as anyone else there (their ancestors having promptly gotten integrated and assimilated from their side shortly after moving to/having been taken to Japan). There are even 'chinatowns' in Japan, though that kind of not-genetically-Japanese citizens aren't what I was thinking of.

Apparently "no dual citizenship" applies to country-identification as well, in the eyes of most people there. Being seen as an exotic mix gets rather frustrating, especially when it keeps getting you treated like some novelty pet, than a fellow Japanese human with the same rights and feelings as them.

29 Name: fart man : 2007-01-15 15:39 ID:2nmmlLT0

>>25
[Imagine: you could be born there (to foreign parents), lived there since forever, and people still treat you like a "guest".]

that is another story. i can understand they hate being called gaijin whatever the races they belongs to.(even if there arent many races other than yellow in japan)because they r not gaijins. but those who werent born in Japan, and just visiting japan temporary are gaijins. this is simply because they came from outside japan. and this is what the word "gaijin" literally means.

how dare u complain about the word! many people come to japan, dont even try to learn japanese language. THEY ARE gaijins.
they dont know japanese language, so why do u complain. japanese pple know the meaning of the word so much better than they do, and "gaijin" simply means "people from different countries"

i apologize for being a bit harsh. i do know there are also many pple who try very hard to adapt themselves to japanese culture and language, but still dont like to be called "gaijin". but ill continue using the word even to my closest "gaijin" friend, bucause he came from a different country.

30 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-15 21:50 ID:VKhDB5VT

>>29
who cares what the fuck you call them. As long as interpersonal relations are civil (on both sides) there is no problem.

The white men that go there to be integrated are just dreaming. First of all, why? Nobody is perfect, off the top of my head I can list about 100 things that is I don't like about the natives in Japan.

Second, it's stupid to try to erase your past and try to move on to a different culture. I'm sure the Europeans and Americans will barf at this, but that is just because they are fed liberal multicultural crap since they were born, from both left and right wings.

Be proud of your past. And be civil in new situations (i.e. Japan, etc.)

31 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-16 01:38 ID:Heaven

>>30
It's more of a matter of not subscribing to the view that your actions and history is irrelevant, and that your genes is all that matters. People who are born in Japan by people who are Japanese citizens get called Gaijin, even if it's as little as being half-gaijin genetically, or several generations after your ancestors immigrated, as long as you have tell-tale marks of even a fraction of non-japanese genes.

Civility really does matter, being called foreigner by someone who doesn't know you isn't odd, but to be called Mr Foreigner behind your back by someone who's e.g. been your co-worker for the past decade, in spite of that you were born in the country (though perhaps by one or two citizens who had genes from elsewhere), is retarded. If you grow up in a culture, being integrated and assimilated as what most countries like them to be, why are you to be denied the right to be seen as much of a person as someone who's family tree goes back thousands of years in the country? Your family tree is not you, genetical heritage is not automatically cultural heritage, even though many seem to want to kid themselves about that.

32 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-16 14:00 ID:Heaven

>>31
Keep in mind that the Japanese sided with the Nazis.

Anyhow, I believe it's a one way to keep public order. I'm not Japanese but I also live in a pretty nationalistic/militaristic country. Once people start forming small groups within a community based on their heritage or whatnot, things start to get out of hand. One way to stop this is completely removing all these groups or cutting contact with them, or discrimination. The other (opposite) is injecting multiculturalism into the community. Both policies have pros and cons.

USA uses multiculturalism, Japan uses xenophobia. They both seem to work equally well!

33 Name: 32 : 2007-01-16 14:01 ID:VKhDB5VT

i mean to bump that.

34 Post deleted by moderator.

35 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-21 21:00 ID:Heaven

It's good to conform to a country, and not expect a country to conform to you. That's the essence of immigration.

36 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-04 04:15 ID:PIDLnQGZ

I dont use "gaizin" as insult...

37 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-04 04:26 ID:PIDLnQGZ

>>32
Japanese sideed in Nazis but they didnt reject judea.
While in WW2,America captured all japanese-americans in america but not captured german in there.
How do you explain?

38 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-04 11:35 ID:nPS5iQnJ

>>37
Actually German and Italian citizens living in the US, and people holding dual German-US and Italian-US citizenship who refused to renounce the German or Italian citizenship, were rounded up and put in camps as enemy aliens during the war.

For some reason, there is not so much attention to them. Perhaps it is political. I don't know.

39 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-04 17:52 ID:vjavbhyj

>>38
probably has something to do with the fact that germany and italy didn't attack the USA directly...

40 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-04 18:34 ID:02LxcnDQ

> German and Italian citizens living in the US, and people holding dual German-US and Italian-US citizenship who refused to renounce the German or Italian citizenship

Many of the Japanese-Americans who were interred in camps had been American for multiple generations and did not hold Japanese citizenship, IIRC.

41 Name: fart man : 2007-02-05 19:08 ID:2nmmlLT0

>>30

>can list about 100 things that is I don't like about the natives in Japan.

then dont come, or (if u r living in japan) go home. who cares?
u can list about 100 things? okay, then list them. we keep calling u gaijin.

i lived in Australia for some yrs, and there were many things i didnt like about the country. but i didnt complain, because i was the one to deceide to live in the country, and there were so many good things as well.

if he used the word to insult u, he was an idiot and i would tell him not to do so, but gaijin means just "pple from different countries". whats wrong with that??

u guys think too much. stop complaining, and pitty urselves, because we know the meaning of the word better. or if u still dont like it, then just keep complaining. thats totally fine with us.

42 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-05 23:24 ID:/6HURYM4

>>37
The reason is because the American government did something that was wrong. It's not a well known thing today among most Americans, and many who do know don't understand how unfair it was or how justice was denied to these people at the time.

Eventually, around 1988, the US Government formally apologized, and reparations were paid to the interned people.

There is no excuse, though. It was just wrong.

43 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-07 06:05 ID:ND8qofNV

I lived in australia and went home around the time I counted 50 things I didn't like about "aussies" (native austrailians). I considered relocating to japan and bringing my economic resources with me, but so far I've counted 250 things I hate about the japanese people and have decided that america truly is superior.

44 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-07 08:54 ID:j7ggss/M

Hello, my name is Yuya Uchida.
Suddenly an idea came into my head.
Am I making myself heard?

45 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-07 08:56 ID:Heaven

>>43
"Native aussies"? You mean the different indigenous Australians, right? The others are just as little native aussies as the vast majority of the americans.
"My family has lived here for two hundred years! That makes me a native, right?" Bwahhahaa, fucking as if. Try thousands of years.

46 Name: Riderman : 2007-02-07 19:15 ID:wboD4LCb

Well if you ever played the game Red Steel for the Wii, the japanese Yakuza call you a "stupid Gaijin" when they are a japanese Yakuza weilding a Katana, and speaking english with an accent, in California, I believe they are the gaijin's.

The word Gaijin isn't used just for a non-japanese man living in Japan, it is just a Japanese word for saying Outsider, it could be used for a person that joins a Clan match and he is in neither clan. So you don't really need to use the word Gaijin just for a non-japanese man, its just a term for outsiders in general of any race or group.

47 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-08 08:23 ID:PIDLnQGZ

>>46
Indeed,it is true.
And GAIJINs ordinary mean is just what you said.
But then,what word should I use telling about fouriginers?

48 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-08 09:44 ID:Heaven

>>47
the more polite word for foreigners, perhaps?
or if you know where they came from - for instance people visiting Japan from USA) - then say that they are visitors from USA.

If it is someone who is a Japanese citizen, but immigrated from for instance USA, then say that it is someone with japanese citizenship who immigrated from USA.

Longer, yes.
But people usually get offended at why people need to have such a distinction in certain situations, more than the word equivalent to "non-japan-originated/spirited" itself. If you know more about someone, then use that information. Don't call people the equivalent of "mr alien" if you know that they for instance are businessmen. To his face, say "mr businessman" if you do not know his name, behind his back, say "the foreign businessman in our department" if there is only one. If there are more, then be more specific, and use other ways to distinguish him.

49 Name: fart man : 2007-02-08 10:51 ID:2nmmlLT0

>>48

>visitors from USA.

too long. and we cant identify ur nationalities all. how about stopping calling outsiders "aliens" first and identify their every single nationality and call them "visitors from japan" be careful, we might get annoyed if u call us koreans or chinise.

50 Name: sage : 2007-02-08 12:04 ID:EdNXy/Bh

weeaboos

51 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-08 21:33 ID:l1e97WG0

I had a discussion about a year ago with around a dozen visiting Japanese and the word 'Gaijin' came up. It was unanimously held by the group to be an insulting word used for foreigners in Japan. I was told it's a contraction of two words which roughly translate as someone not from Japan, which isn't in itself insulting, but it's use in everyday conversation was held to have derogatory connotations.

52 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-11 10:44 ID:VKhDB5VT

They use it in place of yabanjin, which means barbarian.

53 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-11 12:22 ID:bxexJmgL

AUSLÄNDER

54 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-19 12:29 ID:vJb578YF

>>Thing is: Most Japanese people do not feel it's insultive at all. They feel it's a natural way of denoting non-Japanese.

Basically, liken it to the way we use "black" to describe African Americans.

Wapanese need to stop lying to themselves.

55 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-19 14:38 ID:Heaven

>>54
I've never called anyone black :-D

56 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-19 18:49 ID:qXZaG7GX

>>55 absorbs much light

57 Name: Anonymous : 2007-02-19 20:37 ID:Heaven

>>56
Last time anyone commented on my skin, they were telling me to stop using such a strong sunblock and get something that'd give me more of a tan. But my girlfriend likes the contrast of my darkbrown hair against my pale skin, and I promised not to tan as long as she doesn't cut her hair short. It would be neat to absorb a lot of light, though: I wonder what it would like to be a black hole, if we disregard the fact that they aren't sentient. Creating new little universes... Fun fun.
That said, I'm too likely to whine and bitch about how skin-color names totally suck, being far too wishy-washy and inaccurate. I'm not really too great at knowing where someone is from, either. If someone wants me to physically describe an African-American (or anyone, really) I've just gotten to see for the first time, I'm more inclined to just draw a portrait instead of trying to figure out how to tell about his looks efficiently and accurately.

58 Name: kenji : 2007-03-14 10:46 ID:ojr7z2qN

In Japanese society, foreigners are commonly made fun of, rejected, and overall treated in a highly different manner than another Japanese. Japanese people also do not watch a lot of anime at all, nor do they typically read much manga, and "otakus" are commonly rejected and criticized as well.
While I can not speak for everyone, I must say that, as someone who is pursuing Japanese and Asian studies as a major, "otakus" frequently get in the way and are an overall nuisance. Even so, I do not mind them, and have befriended many of them. But when it comes time to get down to business, I'd rather not have that constant fly buzzing around my ear, or bumps in the table as I'm trying to write (speaking figuratively, of course).
I have been studying Japanese for over seven years now. I first started studying by myself, before I moved and took it in school, skipping past the first level. I am now in Japanese III Honors, and taking AP Japanese next year (skipping Japanese IV).
Working at a comic store, there is an infinitesimal door available for you to be able to go to Akiba. Not only would you have to learn the language to get anywhere economically there, but you'd also have to adjust and adapt, which isn't as easy as it sounds. At all.
Furthermore, Japan is an expensive place to live. Expensive. There is also a high demand for housing, as well as the different houses. Since Japan has a government like Britain, it is divided into classes. This is why the rich people normally have big houses, and the average businessman (even if he may be considered highly successful) has an apartment or condominium.
To give you a short walkthrough, you would have to learn the language and culture, starting from before or at the time you start high school. Then you would have to take part in several or many activities which show your eagerness to learn and take part in Japanese and its studies. You would need to keep your GPA up, find a nice college, get accepted, shine more than the other students there, take the college courses (obviously), major in something related to Japanese such as Asian Studies, as well as Japanese in Graduate school. You should also study abroad sometime during college. Then, after all of that, you would have to find a way of getting the money for a ticket to Japan, living expenses, transportation, etc. as well as getting to know the area immediately, seeing as how you'll need a place to live.
While you may think that just because you have a strong will towards going to Japan, there are many obstacles that stand in your way, and most of them depend on time, and then academics and money. Furthermore, a great amount of logic and common sense is needed, as well as flexibility.
Even though you want to go to Japan, there are far too many things that you won't expect. You obviously haven't even begun to scratch the surface of even the slightest knowledge of what Japan actually is yet, and, even if you do manage to make it there, the chances of you leading a better life both depend on your past actions (college, etc.) and availability. Japan is very busy, very busy. Most businessmen work so much, they basically commute home.
Therefore, if you truly want to live in Akiba, you better hope you have family ties there. Especially considering your attitude towards learning the language. When you take on this objective, there is no room nor time for being pompous.

59 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-14 15:24 ID:d8ytpiP6

Do you guys honestly think that A japanese gent would be treated nicely in the UK? In Chorley? Or Bedford? Or Blackpool?

We're all humans, a lot of us are dicks, but a lot of us are nice people =)

~FIN~

60 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-14 18:11 ID:Heaven

>>59 I don't know what and where those places are, but I'm sure a Japanese would be treated nicely in central London.

Try Tokyo as a gaijin, you'll be treated like shit.

61 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-15 02:07 ID:qXZaG7GX

>>60
Has to be better than how a non-French speaking person would be treated in Paris.

62 Name: kenji : 2007-03-17 02:02 ID:ojr7z2qN

Morons.

63 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-17 03:29 ID:lqKCaDvd

64 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-17 12:38 ID:GHabsAAg

>>60
Tokyo as a gaijin isn't so bad, there's heaps of other ones there already so people just don't care anymore.

65 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-17 12:38 ID:GHabsAAg

>>60
Tokyo as a gaijin isn't so bad, there's heaps of other ones there already so people just don't care anymore.

66 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-19 01:52 ID:Heaven

>>60 has obviously never been to Tokyo

67 Name: kenji : 2007-03-19 22:44 ID:ojr7z2qN

It really depends on where you go in Tokyo. It's mostly off and on, though, because of the great deal of foreigners.

68 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-20 03:48 ID:XO9XbXOa

>>59
Yes, why not? I live in Hull, a fairly crap city in the north-east UK, and all foreigners are generally treated well. The same goes for the rest of the UK - although, it's a much more ethnically diverse country than Japan. There have been incidents of racism, but it's certainly not commonplace - everywhere has its ignorant wankers.

69 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-21 04:21 ID:6wV1hNy5

The idea of gaijin being used as a word for "Japinoob," if you will, is one that i hope catches on. I'd like to use that word in reference to myself. "I'm such a gaijin."

70 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-24 14:25 ID:a4Af3E5O

GAIJIN MEANS THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE TRULY JAPANESE, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY.

THREAD OVER ALREADY.

71 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-28 07:25 ID:r7cBoG+5

The thing I really don't understand is why alot of people seem to think of Japan as if it is the holy grail. Why is this? Japan is nothing more than a country. Japan is nothing more than a place where people live. People there do the same things we do here in the west. There is absolutely nothing significantly special or unique about Japan if you seriously think about it. Why so many people don't understand this, I really don't know.

72 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-28 10:49 ID:Heaven

>>71
Weeaboos are silly like that.

73 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-30 14:31 ID:d8ytpiP6

>>71

>>There is absolutely nothing significantly special or unique about Japan if you seriously think about it.

You're an idiot, sir. Every country is special and unique.

And I'm not saying that in the "Every human is special and unique" way either, I mean they're seriously unique. Clearly you haven't had much experience with foreign cultures.

74 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-30 18:14 ID:r7cBoG+5

>>73

Oh please. So they have different traditions and culture. So what? That still doesn't change the fact that they do the same everyday shit that we do. They get up. They go to work. They come home and go to sleep. Maybe they have a wife and kids. In terms of how people live there, it isn't different at all. You can go on your retarded "EVERY COUNTRY IS UNIQUE AND SPECIAL" but when it comes down to it, they live the exact same way we do. The saying "the grass is always greener on the other side" couldn't possibly sum up the situation any better.

75 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-30 23:40 ID:5KXdtBWh

>>74

I bet you're one of those guys who hardly ever
leaves his home country but thinks that he
somehow knows the world.

Seriously, unless you've lived in Japan for a
few years, you should just shut the fuck up.

76 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-31 04:41 ID:Heaven

GAIJIN MEANS THAT YOU WILL NEVER EVER BE TRULY JAPANESE, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY.

THREAD OVER ALREADY.

77 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 00:12 ID:rMKHu0ld

I'm japanese,"gaijin" doesn't mean insult.

It is certain that >>76 said a correct thing.
But it is also certain that the words which mean foreigner every country except muliracial nations has have same meanings.
Not only in Japan.
At least, I never feel insult from the word "gaijin".

and...can I ask you the reason why "black" is bad?

78 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 05:15 ID:b0zClutW

>>77
It's only bad as an adjective, i.e. "Don't be so black."

Similarly, "don't act like a gaijin" conjures up bad stereotypes.

Personally, I think people who complain about "gaijin" are huge whiners who probably should never go to Japan.

79 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 05:50 ID:rMKHu0ld

>>78
thank you.
I hope misunderstandings to each other will be clear.

80 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 08:43 ID:VKhDB5VT

>I think people who complain about "gaijin" are huge whiners who probably should never go to Japan.

lol what?

81 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 19:23 ID:Khe+ngUy

fucking wapanese die in a caraccident, burned to death while analraped by a bear

82 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 20:18 ID:zUry0RNw

Lol bear

83 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-02 20:19 ID:zUry0RNw

lol desert

84 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 05:49 ID:pUWCsMKc

>>77

Gaijin isn't an insulting term, but there are higher politeness level ways of saying "foreigner", I think. "Gaikoku no kata" and "Gaikokujin" for example are the most and highest politeness terms. Perhaps the people insulted would be preferred to be called these terms? But they're foreigners, so it shouldn't be so insulting, since many foreign cultures don't have as many varied levels of politeness as Japanese.

Black isn't necessarily bad...well in many predominantly white nations there is a historical racism against Black people, which views that as being dumb, violent and lazy, so if a person used Black like it's a bad thing, they're usually implying that; people that use "Black" as an insult are racist people.

85 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 06:19 ID:2ZPEMrtG

LOLOL YOU GUYS SHOOD WATCH FAST AND THE FURIES. THE HALF JAP GIRL GETS ALL PRISSY AND SUICIDAL WHEN SHE SPEEKS OV HER MEMORYS OF BEING CALLED GAIJIN. DK=DONKEY KONG LOLOL. FUNNY.

86 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 06:40 ID:rMKHu0ld

>>84
thank you for good answer.
then, what word should I use when I call people with black skins?
Africans?

87 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 12:01 ID:5JngZNrF

>>84 anime nerd fuck your pikachu

88 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 15:50 ID:aPmVdEaC

Should i feed shit to 87?

89 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 19:30 ID:r7cBoG+5

>>75
what i'm saying is that there's no reason to want to live in japan when it would be so fucking hard that i can't imagine it would ever even begin to be worthwhile. going from america to somewhere in europe or europe to america is one thing, but from teh west to japan is a different ballfield. i can't imagine it would ever be worth it. it's not like it's all rainbows and candycanes over there, i mean fuck you'll do the same thing you do living in the west. the only difference is things will be much harder

90 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-03 21:12 ID:pp9FcbX6

fuck off pokegay

91 Name: becoming japanese for real : 2007-04-04 00:08 ID:Heaven

I hate weeaboos. I don't conisder myself a weeaboo, I'm actually Japanese for real, well almost. I will be when I live in Japan though. Right now I'm studying japanese, japanese history and I'm following Bushido, the way of the warrior. This is why I hate weeaboos that know 5 words in japanese and use them all the time, kawaai baka DESU NE MOTHERFUCKER. I'm actually trying to become Japanese for real unlike all these faker wees. FUCK YOU WEEABOOS

So my question is, how good are my chances of becoming Japanese for real?

92 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-04 10:22 ID:Qy4L9pwj

>>91
"I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
Turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
I'm turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
Turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so.."

93 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-04 15:34 ID:pUWCsMKc

>>86

If you're not using it in a racist way, Black is okay. Some people prefer that name. Other people prefer African followed with the nationality. For example if they were an American citizen, perhaps African American. However it's important to be careful, if a person is actually from Africa, they prefer to be called African, or a more specific name, like Nigerian, or other names based on their nation of origin.

94 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-04 17:53 ID:MPm4EgZF

yeah generally you could say black if you were for example describing someone, such as "oh yeah he's the black guy from our english class" or whatever. just like you could say asian instead of chinese/japanese etc. its if you said something like "you black bastard" that will get 7 shades of shit knocked out of you

95 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-04 17:54 ID:M27x1hd3

>>91 fuck off, i hope you die you fucking wapanese ugly shitface pokeloving naruto

96 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-04 23:12 ID:r7cBoG+5

>>86
just use black. black is the only good word there is to use. "african american" isn't really a good term to use because not all blacks have african history. there are alot that come from the Caribbeans and other such areas. in formal situations though, "african american" should be used however because it's the politically correct term, regardless of whether or not it makes sense or is accurate

97 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-04 23:46 ID:hLnxYGDX

>>96 nigga lover

98 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-05 03:22 ID:aFpd9ifi

I'm black, and I usually use "African American" when not talking with my family. I think it sounds more correct (and less racist) than saying just black. Just like we use Asian, French, Caucasian, etc. Although I understand there is some contradiction in that since French people are also Caucasian.

Plus I don't like being called "black" for some reason. I'm more brownish, goddammit!

Though preferably, I just try not to name people using labels. However, sometimes (oftentimes) it's necessary.

99 Name: 86 : 2007-04-05 09:19 ID:rMKHu0ld

>>93/94/96/98
I see.thank you

I can use black only when it is free from racism.
And if I know the place where a person comes from, I can use the words of his/her countries' name, like African American.
when it's not necessary to use those words, I should not use the words preferably.

is that OK?

100 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-05 13:19 ID:Qy4L9pwj

Only black people can use black.

>>100 GET!

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105 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-06 00:06 ID:MPm4EgZF

>>100

ok in that case no black person can call me white.

doesnt quite work in real life...

106 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-06 03:55 ID:qwDb+0jw

lets see... so there are people who hate blacks, a large percent of the world. jews, again a large percent for the world, Muslims, again , about 1.5/6th of the world. Chinese are commies, thats another 1/6th of the world. whites are usually trash, Europeans are fags, middle eastern... already covered. Africans... aids, blacks. Amerikkkans.... self explanatory. Christians of course , we hate those fuckers too. and you hate yourselfs for being major losers.

Congratulations emo kid, you hate the world and guess what? the world hates your guts too.

107 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-06 21:37 ID:Y14SA0TZ

>>99

Sounds good.

108 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-07 01:16 ID:Qy4L9pwj

>>106
lol, who exactly are you talking too?

109 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-07 13:56 ID:yc07rTyE

>>108 shut up

110 Name: Anonymous242 : 2007-04-08 06:23 ID:DWyNTfvm

Yea STFU you racist assholes

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115 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-12 06:08 ID:pbe6xjk0

boring as hell

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117 Name: OGmy : 2007-05-03 10:43 ID:9mwFepoj

What do you think about suicide?
I have no job ,I am not good at working.
I have no way..

118 Name: Anonymous : 2007-05-04 09:20 ID:QnuINatb

start playing MMORPGs or take drugs. Or both.

119 Name: Anonymous : 2007-05-23 00:22 ID:WDz+5HOl

Would a Japanese person living outside of Japan be considered a gaijin?

120 Name: Anonymous : 2007-05-23 01:18 ID:Xh5uFpnt

>>119 in the most technical terms yes but nobody ever used it that way.

my sister in law is a freakin' weeabo, she tries to use what limited japanese vocabulary she has in conversation.

respecting and liking other cultures are all fine and good but trying to be something that you're not?.....go kill yourself already.

121 Name: 9 : 2007-05-27 03:56 ID:ZSn9ck4D

>>1

Am I the only one under the opinion that the word "gaijin" is only used by the people the word is refering to, if even that.

What i know is that word gaijin describes a foreigner living in Japan. Now, why is this word used so often on th internet as a word with almost the same significance as the word "noob" or more like "wannabe Japanse noob" word (and yes i know the word wapanese exists)

Can everyone please stop using the word gaijin. Which is an insulting word [if a foreigner (in Japan) if it's told to him but a Japanese.] ((no idea what this means))

122 Name: Anonymous : 2007-05-27 04:25 ID:ZSn9ck4D

i hate it when people call me white, like ive got something in common with everyone else with white skin. i dont hate whites are black or whatever they are because you cant put them into a category like that. they only have the same colour skin. i hate certain people just because of their actions and opinions.i can understand it when people would hate to be called black because i feel the same when people call me white. 'Black' has such a negative connatation, as if they are less human. This of coarse is just total bullshit from past generations. But when someone says 'white' it makes you sound like some racist arsehole who thinks their better then everyone else. Which to me is just as insulting.

>>120

>liking other cultures are all fine and good but trying to be something that you're not?.....go kill yourself already.

This is justified.Someone acting as though they are born and breed in a different culture is pretty retarded. But when you talk about being 'something your not'. Where is it written as to how we have to be. Just because someone is japanese does not mean they have to stick to some code of how a japanese must live. Your (>>120) probably not implying this but it's a good example for me to bring up the topic.

I may have a bias opinion because i live in a multicultural society where there really is no hint of a set way to live (even though there are stereotypes about what Australians are like), but i thought i'd put it out there.

And don't bother giving racist comments back. You'll only look like some sad self-centred child, complaining that you can't get your way.
p.s. sorry for the long post

123 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-01 20:12 ID:D21bsue3

Gaijin is not inherently a "bad" word. It only becomes bad in the wrong context.

124 Name: 16 : 2007-06-01 21:19 ID:NAStNpWe

>>123
yes it is.

125 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-02 09:22 ID:Heaven

what about people whose parents were born in a certain culture, but the person acting as if they have nothing to do with where they were born and grew up, but have everything to do with the culture and place their parent(s) grew up in?

126 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-02 12:58 ID:NDsyJWKn

>>125
And specifically what's that got to do with the word "gaijin"?

127 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-02 14:17 ID:Heaven

>>126
It's sorta related. It's more likely than what you think.

128 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-02 20:26 ID:yMlR604g

>>127
No it's not. You gaijin.

129 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-03 12:42 ID:Heaven

>>128
It is. You silly.

130 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-07 20:30 ID:pMcZETVn

>>91

I was born in Japan, but raised in America. My English is pretty good, better than my Japanese even.

It's very much so possible, but even then, even if you lived there for 20 years, you'll still get treated like a foreigner by people who don't know you.

131 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-07 22:24 ID:Heaven

>>130
Just like this?

American: "Whare are you from?"
Asian born in the US: "I was born and raised in Los Angels."
American: "No, really where are you from?"
Asian born in the US: "..."

132 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-09 19:42 ID:Heaven

>>131
Ok, you can get back you your liberal roots while leaving us alone.

133 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-05 22:02 ID:Ej7pemzc

>>131

Ew, I'm reminded of that backwards racist Asian comic posted on /b/.

134 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-05 22:46 ID:lwqcUWie

>>131

And that is why I'm glad that I'm just part Asian.

135 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-05 23:17 ID:48veMlwI

>>134
Which part? From the waist up, or something?

136 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-06 01:40 ID:Heaven

>>131
Just like this?

> Asian born in the US

137 Name: ND : 2007-07-21 04:38 ID:85h0Jj7Z

I personally think that Gaijin isn't really offensive. It's just a reference to a foreigner. It's a bit funny, where I live in Canada has a huge local asian population, so whenever we have caucasians move in and such, they're branded as gaijin or wai di ren.

138 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-21 05:13 ID:u68jtnsW

>>137
Vancouver?

139 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-21 05:22 ID:iaVXJ7C9

>>134
I don't know how that justifies anything.

140 Name: ND : 2007-07-23 01:51 ID:85h0Jj7Z

>>138 WHOA!! How'd you know? You too?

141 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-23 03:28 ID:u68jtnsW

>>140

> huge local asian population

Vancouver is well known for that. That and rain. And a great indie music scene.
Also, the drugs. Hope that doesn't affect 2010 negatively in anyway.

142 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-24 10:03 ID:Heaven

asians + rain = indie music

indie music + asians = rain

rain + indie music = asians

143 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-24 23:44 ID:Heaven

> music + asians = rain

omg secret climatic phenomenon discovered!

144 Name: ND : 2007-08-04 01:09 ID:8ta2X/gG

Haha, talk about the loads of rain we've been having in the MIDDLE OF SUMMER! dies Lol...

145 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-04 10:49 ID:Heaven

In japan 外人(ガイジン/がいじん/gaijin)meaning "FOREIGNER"
"The man from out of this cuntry".

But in Chinese character and In Chinese. more basic mean separation.

"外" is meaning "out" , "人" is meaning "human"
sometimes foreigner misunderstands it.
The meaning is translated direct literally.
Gaijin is ...so 外..out...人...human... "Out of human" ?
Hey! Japanese and Japnan is so Racial discrimination cuntry!!
YES! I understood! Eureka!!!

WRONG.
Now you say "Nice guy", but you don't image Guy Fawkes.
gaijin(外人) is a one sentence word meaning "FORINER" in japan.

sometime anti japanese foriner say "Japan is so
Racial discrimination country. becouse they use gaijin,
U konw that mean? It's "Out of Human"..."
W R O N G !.

Because wanted to explain about this matter. thanks.

146 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-04 17:35 ID:Heaven

>>145
Thanks for the explanation.

I always thought of gaijin as being quite normal and inoffensive.

Terms like "hakujin", "kurombo" and "inchiki gaijin" are what would generally be regarded as racist.

147 Name:   : 2007-08-04 23:35 ID:Heaven

"hakujin"(白人) is mening directry trancerate "white (skined) men"
no include racial discrimination.
(same type "kokujin"(黒人) is "black (skined) men" so.)

but sometime talker use case not "where come from" but "hakujin"(White men)
He talk about use not White men but White race,
and he use include some will "Racial discrimination" mean.

On the other hand, "kuronbo" is include clear racial discrimination.
It's direct mean "blacky". It is used for a Japanese translation of "nigger"
Generally, it is not used so much.
(same type word "sironbo" is so mean "Whity".)

"inchiki gaijin" is not hear so mach. direct mean "Fraud foringer".
that sound like not "The foreigner swindles it." but "Imitation gaijin".
because it is very good at japanese so mach and said japanese
"You are not come from out there" gaijin.(example:David Mark “Dave” Spector)

148 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-07 14:24 ID:3beOabZe

外人 = outsider

149 Name: _ : 2007-08-07 14:36 ID:TF8FWiXa

150 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-07 20:55 ID:Heaven

>>145
Understood!

151 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-10 00:07 ID:E5uaBM6C

Japanese people often cannot tell Indian people from "kokujin".

152 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-10 02:21 ID:Heaven

> kokujin

gesundheit

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