How can we make 4-ch attract more than 5 people? (142)

1 Name: Anonymous : 2007-07-11 07:20 ID:apWM+aZ1

Think of ideas in this topic.

We need something to actually get this place semi-active.

93 Name: Anonymous : 2007-09-30 18:43 ID:MtcnIZ/b

> pictures of people, avatars, signatures, videos of funny things, cat macros... whatever! for example, yahoo answers has personalized avatars, screen names, a point system to show off your status...

CANCER

94 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 16:11 ID:8qegoAkh

>>92

> I agree we should give this place some more Americanization, but that should be done with the topics and boards, not by adding avatars and invisionfree crap.

agreed on the second point - if you're going to add avatars and registration and points and shit, what makes this any different the thousands of other forums?

as for "Americanization", well, how about internationalization? Americans aren't the only English speaking people in the world. This place needs to appeal to Americans, British, Australians, all the English-speaking people of the world, wherever they may be. Even Canadians. Having Anime and Manga boards right there at the top of the boardlist makes this look like an otaku forum, and is definitely offputting to people who aren't into that sort of thing (ie interesting people) - this site would probably be better served by merging them both into general animation and comics boards.

95 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 16:15 ID:8qegoAkh

I suppose having a name and concept quite similar to 4chan is also offputting to ... well, everyone. But there's not much that can be done about that.

96 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 18:32 ID:AO4DcpDh

>>95
Which came first? 4chan or 4-ch? Why did one imitate the other?

97 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 18:51 ID:Heaven

>>96
They aren't imitating each other. :(

98 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 18:56 ID:8qegoAkh

4chan is imitating Futaba Channel (2chan), 4-ch is imitating 2channel (2ch). That they're both anonymous boards based on Japanese sites, both with names containing a 4 where the Japanese version had a 2, and both containing some derivation of the word "channel", is enough to connect them in many people's minds.

99 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 22:20 ID:hPtB2lOT

>>91

I fail to see how adding more poorly made pictures/avatars/sigs/etc. makes something better.

100 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-01 23:37 ID:MtcnIZ/b

4-ch.net:
Online Since: 01-Nov-2004
4chan.org:
Online Since: 14-Feb-2004

for anyone who actually cares

101 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-03 03:08 ID:ROnUe2Nf

>>100

but 4chan's birthday was yesterday!

102 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-03 13:37 ID:OW0wQY3g

I think that a board navigation on the top or bottom of the page would help me get curious about boards I don't visit very often. I never use the navigation frame and I think most people don't either.

Also, it could help to feature good threads on the homepage - kind of like wakachan does with the image of the day for example. Basically something that shows actual activity.
Since there's a splashscreen and only a news post every 3 months, the homepage is kind of a missed opportunity.

103 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-03 18:32 ID:xBJ0Veyy

>>100-101

4chan.net was registered in Oct 2003.

104 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-04 00:35 ID:Heaven

>>103
Semantics is fun, but we don't celebrate birthdays for dead people. Usually.
http://4chan.net/
http://web.archive.org/web/20031122004728/http://www.4chan.net/

Connecting to ORG.whois-servers.net...

Domain ID:D103979195-LROR
Domain Name:4CHAN.ORG
Created On:14-Feb-2004 15:46:26 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR)
Registrant ID:37342134-NSIV
Registrant City:Herndon
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:20172
Registrant Country:US

105 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-04 00:37 ID:Heaven

above links might be NSFW, depending whether you work in the porn industry or not.

106 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-04 01:23 ID:Heaven

>>102
There is a navigation frame? And a home page / splash screen?

(I always come here from the Wakachan front page)

As for getting more posters... Get the people who post in imageboards. They already get the whole thing about posting anonymously, or with tripcodes, etc. Recently I've seen quite a bit of overflow from 4chan /b/, for example to iichan /b/. That seems to be the way people find that place. Not through finding it "on their own".

We just have to mention this place occasionally, and that it sucks slightly less. And also, you know, post once in a while. (gasp!)

Kind of what >>79 said I guess.

107 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-04 05:33 ID:/+ZZja/X

> Registrant State/Province:VA

Well it sure explains the KKK theme on the threads.

108 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-04 19:24 ID:Heaven

>>107
Everyone knows South Carolina is the capital of Neo-Confederacy.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp?S=SC&m=5

109 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-04 21:03 ID:2QvZkox7

I think the text board culture is very vital.

We need to preserve the style and structure, giving a different layout system or accounts, avys etc would ruin it all.

To enhance the user base of 4-ch we could inform people about it at events such as anime conventions, video game conventions and telling everybody at your work, college or school.

I would also like the see the smaller image boards such as ko-chan and iichan become more popular.

110 Name: .!JeZwD1WHso : 2007-10-04 21:32 ID:KWUiaQ0G

yeh...

111 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-05 02:05 ID:P93YZK6N

> I would also like the see the smaller image boards such as ko-chan and iichan become more popular.

This has been reiterated many times, but let me say it again: with popularity comes idiots. Just look at 4chan. The reason ko-chan and iichan are so much better is their lack of popularity.

112 Name: MODD!5JrU4QOlH6 : 2007-10-07 18:04 ID:Heaven

113 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-08 21:15 ID:kRWkMink

Is 3-ch.net taken?

Maybe they should change the name. After all, isn't four an unlucky number? Especially as it associates us with the Other One.

Channel 3, everybody, or 3 Channel!

114 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-08 21:18 ID:2QvZkox7

>>113

Hehe, the "other" one.

115 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-09 14:54 ID:REhAS6UA

>>113

> isn't four an unlucky number?

good point, if you want an international super awesome message board it probably isn't great that its name sounds like "death channel" to one sixth of the world's population

> Especially as it associates us with the Other One.

even better point

116 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-09 15:50 ID:2QvZkox7

>>113
>>115

I don't think people from the PRC are going to be coming to this site.

117 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-09 16:24 ID:slDagb+4

Bah, they don't know what they're missing!

118 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-09 18:34 ID:VhNJSZ0i

guys we definitely do NOT want to americanize, mainstream ourselves, etc.

If 4-ch does not keep it's niche, 'densha-otoko' identity as some of you referred, it will just become shallow garbage like 4chan has

the mainstream has no basis, only communities with a niche and basis will survive

look at gurochan
its an extremely tiny community with an extreme niche, and it is one of the best left
wherther or not you are into guro, it cannot be deinied that their boards are home to a great userbase and carry out real discussions that consist of more than DESUSSLDOL NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!1 and shit

yeah it looks ugly and bland to americans, but we need to keep roots to japanese net culture, ive personally grown to like this basic look, it feel slike home

bringing in more people defeats the purpose if they kill the site

we only want people who are willing to immerse themselves and learn about our culture; we DEFINITELY DO NOT need or want to bend and change ourelves ot meet THEIR needs and wants

119 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-09 19:36 ID:w7y1CiDF

>>118

Hear! Hear!

120 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-10 04:44 ID:Heaven

> the mainstream has no basis, only communities with a niche and basis will survive
  1. 2 channel has no niche.
  2. This site is an imitation.
  3. This is why there are boards covering topics other than anime/manga.
  4. 4 channel does have a niche, see #2

I don't know what I'm getting at here.

121 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-10 14:34 ID:slDagb+4

we live and post in 2ch's reflected aura. 2ch is like our sun.

122 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-10 15:25 ID:dgbn1ca5

Hi. I'm new here. So there's like... 6 of us now?

123 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-10 18:09 ID:VhNJSZ0i

>>120
2channel may have no niche as you say, but in imitating it we have gained a niche of obscure japanese internet culture, 'densha otoko', etc

even though we DO technically have all those boards, theres no denying we have a pretty distinct atmosphere

i mena its not a fucking sports forum, just because we have a sports board

124 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-12 01:23 ID:Heaven

From the splash page:

> Let's talk about everything!

I still don't know what I'm getting at.

125 Name: Default : 2007-10-15 04:03 ID:u5pPR43b

>>1
Change "general" category to /b/ and you get 5 million more people.

126 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 07:32 ID:u1rY9388

It's a text board not an image board. I don't think /b/tards would last five minutes here.

127 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 12:08 ID:BV9LPy41

Hello,

I'm new in 4-ch, and I must say that I like very much this BBS.

I find the idea of a completely 100% text only and anonymous forums quite interesting, it resembles much more my ideal of purely abstract mind to mind communication that the internet should be able to provide, instead of becoming more and more a tightly surveilled medium,...

Although I'm not an otaku, I like japanese-related stuff, and I don't mind that japanophilia plays an important role here. And even if 4-ch.net starts as a pastiche of 2ch.net, it does not mean that it can't evolve into something interesting in its own way.

Also, I don't think there is any need to americanize this place (I don't even live in the americas). On the contrary, it would be nice if anyone can come here and participate, with english writing skills as sole requirement.

128 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 12:24 ID:BV9LPy41

>> 127 (continued)

Why should 4-ch.net become more popular? To have more reading material? quicker feed-back?

I think that if quality remains an important requirement alongside quantity, then there is only one option: to post interesting stuff, and react to interesting posts. The more interesting text there is, the more people will come and participate, while maintaining the quality level,...

Although I'm new with this, I think 4-ch.net is most useful to exchange and discuss about pretty personal issues and thoughts (aside from ranting). For most other things, other places are probably better suited(meet people, get technical help, education, etc).

So I guess that probably the best way to increase the interest level of 4-ch.net is to create a welcoming atmosphear to people who want to discuss, and contribute with meaningfull contributions to their posts.

129 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 12:31 ID:BV9LPy41

>> 127 (continued)

Finally, here are my 2 technical questions about the BBS:

1 - This is a text centered system, so every enhancement to readability would be welcome. I don't know if it's the computer I'm writting on which has a problem, or if it's 4-ch fault's, but it would be more eye pleasing if the text had some CSS formating to render it more readable/elegant. Of course, this CSS formatting could remain optional, so that 2ch.net purists remain satisfied.

2 - I like the anonymity of 4-ch.net, but how can one follow discussions over days and weeks? With time I forget to which threads I have contributed, and it would be interesting to see how people reacted to my posts,... If I wanted to write just for myself, I would simply use my PC, no need for the internet...

130 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 12:37 ID:BV9LPy41

Gasp!

Of course, as soon as I post this I discover the board stylesheet menu... Guess I'll go for Mercury ;-)

131 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 15:56 ID:u1rY9388

Well it's pretty obvious that one of the attractive features is the ability to be somewhat anonymous. If you were to talk about a personal issue on a regular forum it could quite possibly damage your e-persona.

132 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-15 16:26 ID:BV9LPy41

>>131

Almost, but not quite,... One can be anonymous in most forums by inventing a nickname. 4-ch.net is not special in that regard.

It's the absence of nicknames which is special in 4-ch, because it prevents the building up of a persona, which could limit your identity on-line in the same way as your identity limits you IRL.

As an added bonus, you don't have to deal with people using different nicknames online in order to behave differently.

Of course, many forums have the "Guest", "Anonymous Coward" option, but this does not work if the majority uses nicknames.

133 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-16 00:38 ID:Heaven

>>127,132
Welcome!
I admire your understanding and hope you stay.

134 Name: Default : 2007-10-16 04:39 ID:u5pPR43b

>>126
...yeah, well....
grumbles I like the sound of /b/ though... Ah, well. We could just wait for more people to come on? I say we establish a good name for ourselves an see how it goes...

135 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-16 18:15 ID:VhNJSZ0i

>>126
im a /b/tard actually
but i like this place for what it is
definitely not /b/, definitely shouldnt become /b/

136 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-17 01:54 ID:h0pK5Dkj

This chan is good as it is.
I am new here and I have to say I am happy to see some decent topics unlike 4chan and alike where everything revolves around beeing the biggest kiddy.

137 Name: Default : 2007-10-17 03:00 ID:u5pPR43b

sheesh, guys! I meant changing the NAME!

138 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-17 03:45 ID:S/FmPwK0

I know!

Instead of a cat girl on the front, why not a flower pot or some dead loli?

139 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-17 07:04 ID:Heaven

>>138 Yeah, what's up with 2ch's new title page?

I want my plain old pot back, that girl isn't even drawn well.

140 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-17 07:41 ID:u1rY9388

I'm curious as to how dead lolita will attract more people. We're not Interpol trying to draw out the paedophiles. =/

141 Name: Anonymous : 2007-10-19 14:32 ID:EM2RnVdz

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142 Name: Default : 2007-10-19 19:33 ID:dBHDOj5K

>>138
Um.... NO.

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