Why is 4-ch so dead? (78)

1 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-22 17:02 ID:7X8AS7hE

Why?

2 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-22 21:47 ID:KWC+Hq54

It's not.

3 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-23 03:46 ID:4r8O47MZ

It can't be killed. We could use some traffic on other boards though.

4 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-23 21:33 ID:6kszdbVX

It has actually picked up lately. Go find yourself a nice thread from 2006 and reply to it. Someone might even insult you for bumping an old thread before the end of the year! That's TRAFFIC, BABY! We're moving at light speed!

5 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-24 20:02 ID:Zo7IS21u

>>4
So goddamn annoying.

6 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-25 08:03 ID:FLUXtdN2

I'd come if people were here.

But, people are not here. So I don't come.

7 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-26 07:04 ID:PdXQsljZ

>>6
What kind of people do you like?

8 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-26 09:34 ID:KWC+Hq54

>>6
Nice ID, bro.
Also, the most activity undoubtedly occurs on that strange board known simply as DQN. Are you man enough to enter?

9 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-26 20:19 ID:rKqYL3/P

>>8
DQN intimidates me...

10 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-26 23:21 ID:FLUXtdN2

>>7

Normal people? Honestly, I have sort of been around here from a long time ago... I'm one of the lucky owners of the official 4-ch.net t-shirt :D

>>8

I'm a bad enough dude to roll in Dokkyun land.

11 Name: Anonymous : 2011-09-30 02:00 ID:Heaven

Sometimes I think we should do some sort of drive to attract new users to the site.

Then I remember 4-ch's small userbase is what makes it great.

12 Name: Anonymous : 2011-11-15 10:14 ID:Heaven

>>11
It definitaly should have more traffic though. BBS' are pretty cool and I think there are more people out there who would participate in a community like this... But they simply don't know about it, that's the problem.

13 Name: Anonymous : 2019-05-14 01:54 ID:UXywBeoK

bump

14 Name: Anonymous : 2019-05-17 02:33 ID:Heaven

>>13
kill yourself faggot!!!!

15 Name: Anonymous : 2019-08-13 10:23 ID:/rt3MHNU

bump

16 Name: Anonymous : 2019-08-22 23:24 ID:39WQOtAn

funny how people have thought this for 8 years and nothing has changed for 8 years. the only new people who come to sites like these are people bored enough to read a list of textboards/imageboards on a wiki.

there have got to be like, less than 20 people who regularly use textboards. less than 10? they're probably all talking to each other on all these different websites without realizing it. insanity.

17 Name: Anonymous : 2019-08-23 19:18 ID:7YZzUqu+

I miss iichan :<

18 Name: Anonymous : 2019-08-23 20:44 ID:Mxy6l8gy

19 Name: Anonymous : 2019-08-29 09:56 ID:CNn14xa0

>>16
I was going to say they can't be that anemic in number but then I started thinking it's probably not very far from the truth.

20 Name: Anonymous : 2019-08-31 18:15 ID:Heaven

>>19
It's at least 30 people, though most of them only stop by maybe once a week. Maybe more, but I don't think many are active. Try checking some of the textboard related IRC channels, or the SAoVQ discord. There's a surprisingly large number of people.
The lack of activity isn't because of lack of people, but because all of those people don't post very often, and the boards they do post on are just the bigger ones like DQN or SAoVQ. I expect most people check the boards for posts worth replying to, see nothing new, and leave again. Try making some high quality threads in places where they will be seen, you'll quickly see a spike in activity as people finally have something new to reply to.

21 Name: Anonymous : 2019-09-20 22:30 ID:f/RTIZwK

who cares

22 Name: Anonymous : 2019-09-21 01:42 ID:C+RVT4pd

it's not that dead ;-;

23 Name: Anonymous : 2019-09-23 02:16 ID:EcYIj+XN

>>17
I do too, even though it had been stagnant for years. There are simply no old-fashioned imageboards left. Mirroring the monolithic nature of the modern web, it's become 4chan or nothing again. Nothing is usually preferable to 4chan.

24 Name: ^ _ ^) : 2019-09-23 16:21 ID:VSoo4Flc

because of FAGGOTS and QuEERS

25 Name: Anonymous : 2019-09-23 16:49 ID:A3+cbWpt

>>24 hey we've got nothing to do with this

26 Name: Anonymous : 2019-11-24 12:41 ID:Heaven



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27 Name: Anonymous : 2019-11-25 20:01 ID:JbsxnjZ9

>>16
I used to stop by every day but my workplace had this website blocked. I recently found it to be unblocked recently though so I can finally return after like a 8 month drought. I check as many boards as possible over the workday but I don't really have anything to offer aside from serious responses. A lot of the times I don't have anything to add to a discussion so I don't reply at all.

28 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-11 19:14 ID:emRAPQHY

Probably because of all the normalfags who just use instagram, twitter and all that, and everyone else using 4chan instead of other image/textboards because 4chan is the most popular imageboard that there is currently.

29 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-12 08:41 ID:Heaven

I met an anon from an antique internet
Who said: One vast and lifeless board of text
Stands on the web. Near it, in the thread,
Half sunk, a shattered AA lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its poster well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the subject line these words appear:
'My name is Squeeks, dokyun of dokyuns:
Look on my posts, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that dead website, boundless and bare
The lone and level web stretches far away.

30 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-14 07:52 ID:Heaven

who cares.

31 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-14 15:47 ID:R9UMNCz0

The old internet is dead, and the new one doesn't interest me at all. I still remember places from the hazy distant past like Portal of Evil, even before 4chan was around. The wayback machine doesn't even remember places like this; they're truly lost in the sands of time. If there's any solace to take from this slow death, it's that all things are headed towards the same end.

32 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-24 23:18 ID:Heaven

>>28
4channers are normalfags too!

33 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-24 23:18 ID:Heaven

>>28
4channers are normalfags too!

34 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-24 23:20 ID:Heaven

>>32
>>33
eeee sorry,
for some reason it said that captcha had failed so i posted antoehr one accidentally orz

35 Name: Anonymous : 2019-12-28 08:54 ID:b4V13zsJ

>>32
>>33
It's alright, haha. What I meant is that normalfags started to use 4chan, and the older users stopped using it, and now here we are.

36 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-01 07:20 ID:P9TrbI2d

Quit bullshitting >>35, your demeanor alone outs you as another obsessed kid browsing creamy's list. Listen, and this goes for anyone else that finds this place through creamy, ed, qa or whatever lame 4chan spinoff: 4-ch is for txtboard culture and discussion of otaku/hobbyist topics. Don't pretend to be someone you're not; that's how you develop multiple personality disorder

37 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-04 09:48 ID:FihKCPzD

>>36
Shut the fuck up retard. Gatekeeping a septic tank makes no sense.

38 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-06 21:20 ID:emRAPQHY

>>36
I don't know what or who creamy is, but what's so bad about browsing this website even if you haven't been here for a lot of years? It's not like I'm acting like a retard like the post above me.

39 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 01:35 ID:IebLO4Z6

>>38
What's bad is you were preaching on and on about "normalfag this normalfag that" and you called yourself an "older user of 4chan", which now you admit you're not. No one brags about their "oldfag status" so bluntly, especially out of nowhere. Do you know how many people complain about the "quality of 4chan" every single day, pretending they're "an oldfag from 2005 here". It's getting to point now where I can't even tell if it's more /qa/ meta irony or just genuine cluelessness.

40 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 07:34 ID:b4V13zsJ

>>39
I never referred to myself as an oldfag, I used "we" referring to everyone on the site currently, and I never said that I was one of the "older users". I'm sorry that I was too ambiguous in my phrasing and choice of words, but I never out and out said I used 4chan back in 2008 or anything. Frankly, you don't have to have used the site 10 years ago to know that the overall quality at the moment is pretty low.

41 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 16:53 ID:uamRLUyu

>>40
Define "quality". If you mean posts that aren't one-ten word shitposts, that can define a lot of imageboard's posters, like lainchan for example.

42 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 17:16 ID:uamRLUyu

>>41
Point is: This is 4-ch, not 4chan. Really if you want to see more quality (aka whatever your definition of quality is), you can always make your own thread. Generally, if the thumbnail is eye catching and your topic has something to do with the board, you'll get plenty of replies.

43 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 19:00 ID:emRAPQHY

I mean, quality as in originality and not spamming the same old wojak faces at someone while greentexting what the other person said, or just responding with cope, seethe, have sex, etc. Of course, there are people that aren't like that and actually discuss the topic at hand, but I see it a lot more than a while ago. Also, I never see people saying "lurk more", which I used to see pretty frequently when someone would flail around like a retard. It's a minor thing, but I think it's indicative of more and more new people arriving.

44 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 19:01 ID:emRAPQHY

>>43
Meant for >>41

45 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-09 23:08 ID:IebLO4Z6

>>43
Then 4chan just isn't the place for you. But whining and ranting isn't going to fix lack of originality, in fact it has the polar opposite effect. If you want serious discussion, you're going to have to try to stir up some banter and put effort into your thread OPs. Sites like 4-ch and Shitaba really have the same problem, but in a less spammy same-post way. No one ever wants to add to threads, so they either don't post at all or make a fool of themselves (which is why this site's shitpost board is the only consistently active one). There's no use fighting the giant that is fourchan. Honestly most of its posters seem like robots because they see one popular thread, they wait until that thread 404s and then they remake it. 4/jp/ for example is a living example. Look at the entire catalog, and tell me if there's a single thread that isn't a.) a general thread or b.) a touhou template thread you can find ten thousands of duplicates of on warosu

46 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-10 06:24 ID:b4V13zsJ

>>45
That's true, the most popular anime, video games etc. do tend to practically get generals every day. Add that to the What did he mean by this? Now that the dust has settled... threads (mostly on /v/ admittedly) and stuff gets pretty formulaic

47 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-10 15:42 ID:MF1jhjv4

Formulaic OPs wouldn't have been a thing had moot not made text inclusion in subject/post field mandatory when starting threads shortly before he abandoned his site for google.

48 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-15 02:23 ID:n8VFc9xu

There's a Catch 22 at play. I've argued for years that 4chan lost its luster since the archives came into play. It jumped the shark long ago but this is the point where it lost credibility as a force. Its draw is no longer absolute chaos, it's semi-controlled chaos that plays out quite formulaic, you already know everything that's going to be posted before you even look at the thread 99% of the time. You would think that would cause knowledge to be codified, progress would build upon this lasting source, but no, the turnover rate is so maddening that you have to repeat the same things over and over and nobody ever learns anything.

The meme of n00bs spouting the same catchphrases over and over was true then, but has morphed into a nightmare. There's simply no excuse, it's so disheartening most actual old users (pre-2008) long ago gave up, or trudge along so disheartened that every single time they post they're wondering why.

4-ch suffers from stagnation and ease of flooding, but it doesn't suffer from this grinding fatigue. It is still a nice vacation spot to get away from it all, and that's what it should be.

49 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-15 18:29 ID:BTlJaQMS

>>48
There really aren't any oldfags on 4chan at this point, not because 4chan went to shit, but because they stopped needing it.

You come to anonymous sites when you feel lost. They allow you to share your thoughts in confidence that what you say won't be attributed to you, allowing you to explore your thoughts free from social consequence. Once you've come to terms with yourself, you stop needing this sort of thing. At this point, most people either get their own sites and become bloggers, or turn into normies.

50 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-15 19:34 ID:JbsxnjZ9

>>49

>You come to anonymous sites when you feel lost.

Unless me only feeling like I find myself is when I've lost myself, this is wrong. I'm more lost on active places with usernames than anywhere with anonymous posters. I hate environments where your account/activity level determines the validity of the content you are sharing. I've been on 4chan.org since 2007 and I can honestly say I still enjoy going there after I've read all the new posts on all the textboards I visit daily.

51 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-21 06:52 ID:bclC/EWp

>>49
For me the appeal has honestly always been the lack of registration requirements. I hate registering for sites to an unreasonable degree.

52 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-21 21:31 ID:6tOpBKHZ

>>51
This.

53 Name: Anonymous : 2020-01-25 23:41 ID:Heaven

these sites are dead and suck because the people that visit them are dead (inside) and suck

54 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-10 03:34 ID:tseGoMww

I wonder if reducing the turnover rate on 4chan would be a useful thing. Honestly what they should do is allow the thread OP to delete replies. It will turn into stupidity for troll threads, but in actual decent threads it will go a long way in stopping trolls from derailing. 4chan mods have shown enough at this point they're not too concerned with fixing the site, so at this point some form of self-moderation is probably worth considering.

55 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-16 05:05 ID:okZDFhkd

My opinion can probably go fuck itself but here it is.....

Most people, mainly Gen.Y(Millennials) and Gen.Z individuals crave attention from their digital social lives. I myself fall under Gen.Y although, I could care less about attention. These individuals are use to having fancy website features with fancy interfaces etc. They don't know how to express their thoughts in a communicative way on sites like this because it lacks the aesthetics they're use to having in their daily lives.

To them, sites like these suck and doesn't offer them a way to get that attention they so desperately crave. They've lost touch (if they ever even had it to begin with) with how to converse with other people about common topics because again, they've been showered with likes, shares, re-tweets, emojis, hearts, overall attention etc....

Honestly, I can't even be mad at them because it's the large corporations that take over huge percentages of the internet traffic and offer locked-down static-styled designs with dynamic content created by the users. The young teens/adults probably have never even seen a site like this before because it's not something their popular inner-circle of fake friends use or talk about.

Everyday sites like this get the life slowly choked out of them by these large corps. The nets just not as decentralized as it once was and that makes me sad. My children will probably never know about sites like this if I don't show them because it's not something popular that has an app for a smart device.

That's all I can really say. We're in a losing battle with large corps. over our freedom of expression whether it be in the form of communicating or artistically expressing ourselves.

Long live image/text boards!

56 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-16 05:06 ID:okZDFhkd

My opinion can probably go fuck itself but here it is.....

Most people, mainly Gen.Y(Millennials) and Gen.Z individuals crave attention from their digital social lives. I myself fall under Gen.Y although, I could care less about attention. These individuals are use to having fancy website features with fancy interfaces etc. They don't know how to express their thoughts in a communicative way on sites like this because it lacks the aesthetics they're use to having in their daily lives.

To them, sites like these suck and doesn't offer them a way to get that attention they so desperately crave. They've lost touch (if they ever even had it to begin with) with how to converse with other people about common topics because again, they've been showered with likes, shares, re-tweets, emojis, hearts, overall attention etc....

Honestly, I can't even be mad at them because it's the large corporations that take over huge percentages of the internet traffic and offer locked-down static-styled designs with dynamic content created by the users. The young teens/adults probably have never even seen a site like this before because it's not something their popular inner-circle of fake friends use or talk about.

Everyday sites like this get the life slowly choked out of them by these large corps. The nets just not as decentralized as it once was and that makes me sad. My children will probably never know about sites like this if I don't show them because it's not something popular that has an app for a smart device.

That's all I can really say. We're in a losing battle with large corps. over our freedom of expression whether it be in the form of communicating or artistically expressing ourselves.

Long live image/text boards!

57 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-17 07:32 ID:1CYn9RbL

>>56
I would say it isn't just attention, but rather stimulus. The younger someone is the easier they are to be distracted.

It doesn't help that exploiting this drive and lack of self-control is profitable, thus, indeed, making these large corporations only more influential.

58 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-19 18:30 ID:okZDFhkd

>>56
>>57

Agreed.

59 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-26 21:09 ID:MhmvQdid

>>56

>We're in a losing battle with large corps. over our freedom of expression whether it be in the form of communicating or artistically expressing ourselves.

Yup. Why do you think cyberpunk as a genre stopped being good after the late 90's? Because we're living in it now.

Also, to give my two cents. This site's as alive as it needs to be. I'd rather have a mostly-dead site with a quality post every week or so than to go sifting through the septic tank that is 4/v/ looking for something fun. Don't get me wrong, I wish there were more users here and that the site wouldn't be as slow, but sometimes you just have to accept what you have.

60 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-28 02:22 ID:okZDFhkd

>>59

I agree. I wished this site had more concurrent users but I'm glad it has what little it has.

Text-board sites like this are almost considered "dead" when compared to image-boards because they're all the rage with people who are into these types of sites. Image-boards are also almost considered "dead" when compared with other non-anonymous type sites like Reddit etc.

It's funny because if I ask people if they've ever visited Anonymous-type sites like this they have no clue what I'm even talking about because they've only used modern privacy invasive sites like Facebook, Instagram, Google, and all the popular apps as well.

Text-board sites are kinda like IRC, they both have unique people with specific tastes that are low in numbers when compared with more modern services used but I love text-board sites which is why I'm currently in the process of developing my own from-scratch text-board software because I'm tired of using the same old abandoned software that everyone else keeps circulating/using.

Mine will allow you to create your own threads and gives you a special code to allow moderating the replies. Essentially the thread creator will be like a mod or janitor. You'll also be able to decide if your thread is public(link posted once created) or private(you must share your thread link for others to know it exits).

61 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-29 05:08 ID:TLl/QOFK

>>60

>Essentially the thread creator will be like a mod or janitor.

That sounds like a pretty bad idea, anon.

62 Name: Anonymous : 2020-03-30 00:08 ID:okZDFhkd

I thought so at first too, but I decided that the thread creator will honestly want their thread to thrive and do well so giving them the ability to keep spam reply's at bay is a plus because it will remove the need for mods. Let me clarify though that the thread creators will not be able to delete reply's only hide them. I'll have a link at the bottom or top to show all hidden reply's or re-hide them so everyone will have the ability to still see reply's that have been hidden. Not sure if that's the best way to go but I figured it should work in theory to allow thread creators to keep their threads alive with as little derailment from shit-posters as possible while also not crushing anyone's free speech.

63 Post deleted.

64 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-02 23:35 ID:rATvY3is

apparently it was only dead because people weren't posting about co​omers

65 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-03 01:29 ID:okZDFhkd

>>64

You're probably correct. A lot of people probably visit here daily but don't contribute anything because they don't see any newer threads just the same old washed up threads that get new lives when someone posts to it.

Honestly, the owner should make it so once the thread is, lets say a month old, you cannot add any new reply's. That will entice people to at least re-create older threads or create new ones.

66 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-03 15:39 ID:Heaven

>>65
Being able to reply but not bumping the thread would be better.

67 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-03 15:50 ID:SsD2npEV

>>62
That would be pretty cool to see. You'd probably still want some measure against the creation of threads with the purpose of spamming.
The other problem is, with slow, long-running threads like these, OP will eventually forget about the thread. I don't really see a good way to get around an absentee OP, unless you wanted to have OPs provide email addresses that reports would be sent to, or something weird like that. I'm not a fan of that from an anonymity standpoint though.

68 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-03 22:33 ID:okZDFhkd

>>66

But wouldn't that mean you would have no clue what threads have new reply's? Because the thread wouldn't be bumped so it would seem it was dead.

69 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-03 22:41 ID:okZDFhkd

>>67

>You'd probably still want some measure against the creation of threads with the purpose of spamming.

Yeah, that's a hard one to come by without mods to moderate the boards themselves.

>The other problem is, with slow, long-running threads like these, OP will eventually forget about the thread.

Maybe after a certain amount of time has elapsed with an absentee OP the thread could be handed off to someone else possibly? Idk, that also is a hard one to fix.

70 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-05 10:25 ID:Heaven

>>68
What I proposed would just stop people from bumping old threads with stupid posts.
If a thread doesn't get any new replies for X months (every board should have different settings) then the thread is ''archived'' and all new replies in that thread will be posted with an automatic sage.

71 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-06 13:13 ID:Heaven

>>70
That's a permasage. It is normally applied to "low-quality-yet-not-spam" threads.

It stops people from necroposting, but it also kills the thread faster.

72 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-06 13:15 ID:Heaven

Though I think the thread is already dead if it hasn't got any new replies for months...

73 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-06 15:45 ID:okZDFhkd

>>70

I understand what you're saying now. If it was me I would lock the thread after so many weeks/months of the thread's creation date to archive it but make it read-only so people can still enjoy it if it has good content and shitposters can't ruin it.

74 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-07 09:09 ID:Heaven

What? There's nothing to permasage. Wouldn't do any good.

We've been saying the same things for ages and ages. Everybody's sick of it.

I get more kicks out of some aged crap thread from long ago that might actually have one witty comment than the typical inconsequential thread posted today. Just saying.

75 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-08 03:55 ID:okZDFhkd

>>74

What is "permasage"? I tried looking it up online but found no clear definition.

76 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-08 05:43 ID:rATvY3is

>>75
The traditional method of killing off irredeemably bad threads on textboards, since closing and deleting threads entirely is viewed as tyrannical censorship. Permasaging instead makes it so new replies can't bump the thread on the list, even if the replier doesn't sage their own post.

Try posting in this permasaged thread and observe how it stays buried: http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1335104919/l50

77 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-08 16:55 ID:Heaven

>>74

>I get more kicks out of some aged crap thread from long ago that might actually have one witty comment than the typical inconsequential thread posted today.

Are you saying that you're okay with people bumping old and done threads with idiotic posts for shit and giggles or that you just like revisiting old funny threads?
I hope it's the latter.

78 Name: Anonymous : 2020-04-11 05:10 ID:Heaven

>>77
Mostly the latter, but even an idiotic necropost can serve up an entertaining thread once in a while.

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