Internet Addicts Anonymous @4-ch

Do you have an addiction to the Internet? Do you spend all day looking at slashdot, wikipedia, porn or posting in your Livejournal, or are you a friend or family member of someone who is?

Internet addicts anonymous provides counselling, trolling, flames and utter internet stupidity for those who require the services, generously provided by 4-ch in association with the DQN community.
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Junior, let's find VIP, DQN or IAA on your ID [PART III] (390)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2015-06-21 00:08 ID:U5EdXjW8

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Part I:
Part II:

(・∀・) There were three. THREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

381 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-22 21:29 ID:6RNTgHLk


382 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-23 21:22 ID:8tOxrKy+

i am a gice

383 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-24 15:59 ID:Dz7B77rs


384 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-25 18:14 ID:Wn4GvNOy


385 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-28 04:07 ID:Wn4GvNOy

Why? Because absurdity

386 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-29 22:00 ID:bewsRzdy

You've been picked and it's over
What's the chip on your shoulder?
Out side were solid rainbows
Inside is where the heart grows
Picking up the pieces
Something more to believe in
As you search the embers
Think what you've had, remember
Hang on, don't you let go now
You know, with every heartbeat, we love
Nothing comes easy
Hang on, ask the lonely

387 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-09 15:45 ID:QYuUIrbQ


388 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-11 15:26 ID:fx4/jQXB


389 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-12 20:02 ID:3ur/Q0vM


390 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-15 15:34 ID:NaBMLmjV


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☆(´∀`)★How often do you check 4ch★(,,゚Д゚)☆ (204)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2006-04-02 18:49 ID:HQClHlbg

Me, I check once or twice a day. It seems like more people are coming each week.

195 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-22 17:54 ID:Hs4Aqd+q

I haven't checked this site in quite a long time. Thought about it today after a whim took me to 7chan so I decided to stop by

Neat to see this blowing up a little bit. Cheers

196 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-23 00:21 ID:McX1ad+g

I found 4-ch a few years ago as a teen. I felt like I had "graduated" from 4chan, so I looked for other chans to post on that I thought were "better quality". I browsed a handful of boards (like 20-30 lol) pretty much every day for a year. Over the years I cut it down to 5, then 3, then 2, then none at all. I haven't posted regularly anywhere in like three years. These days I visit some boards every few months when I feel really bored, like I'm doing right now.

197 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-31 08:16 ID:Ho3gyTej

Do you use social media or something or do you just not talk to strangers online anymore?

198 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-15 04:31 ID:+/hwHM+P

everyday. when i'm not on 4ch, i'm using 2ch, nico or youtube, sometimes i use irc.

199 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-16 14:41 ID:OVim+Gfr

>>198 Theres an IRC which isnt dead? ded srs?

200 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-22 11:08 ID:Heaven

Plenty, you don't even need to look very hard. #jp on Sageru and #tinychan on Rizon are good places to check out.

201 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-30 10:56 ID:JEVRsHVt


>/jp/ on Sageru

Are you crazy?

202 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-02 20:34 ID:BguAyt5i

>>196 is a good board and its active as well

203 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-06 01:02 ID:Heaven

Why are you accusing me of insanity?

204 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-10 20:55 ID:Ho3gyTej

/jp/ on sageru is full of mentally ill posters, unfortunately.
Samachan’s okay.

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I'm an imageboard and online communities otaku (211)

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202 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-05-27 13:28 ID:C2zBB2+S

the oldest archive of that site
is july 19 2003

203 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-06-03 10:22 ID:zafHXPPC

It seems to have existed at leastt as early as july 11 2003

205 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-14 05:53 ID:IqSDU4o5

It is so weird to see anons talking about this as /a/ seemed to fall into a point of no return shortly after this. Sad stuff, I hoped anon learned Japanese because there's almost nowhere else left to go at this point that's not also shitty for it's own reason or slow.

206 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-17 20:57 ID:Heaven


> 4chan uses Google's reCaptcha

The vast majority of image- and/or textboards use Google's (re)Captcha, so the only alternative is to not frequent the ones that have privacy issues or stop visiting them altogether. Hell, even 4-ch uses Captcha + Google Syndication, for that matter.

207 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-17 21:09 ID:Heaven

I can't provide you the proofs, since we are on a textboard, but you can see for yourself by installing uMatrix or uBlock Origin.

208 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-30 14:19 ID:vl02NhLL

rest in peace wakachan/iichan

209 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-01 18:56 ID:GGbWTisq died for some reason

210 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-01 20:08 ID:6RO7R86I

Probably glow-in-the-darks

211 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-10-02 20:33 ID:GGbWTisq

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YTMND Shut Down (31)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-05-15 13:53 ID:2+74k3Os, flash, win7 and now ytmnd. What next?

22 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-07 19:45 ID:3y9yooja

To be fair, at least on /g/, calling people trannies and incels is an injoke of sorts. It’s making fun of that mentality.

23 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-10 09:42 ID:Y8Veq4qh

Everything was archived so there's no reason to care.

Nobody gave a fuck enough to make new sites on ytmnd in the current year anyway

24 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-30 03:32 ID:2Ph8+DTh

I think it’s because users of the platform are very insufferable. Platforms rarely get infamous for nothing.

25 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-05 14:03 ID:j+nb/HPc

I really hate Reddit but can’t stop reading it for some reason

26 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-22 18:00 ID:cZMhKlRW

I like reddit a lot. At least, I use it nowadays a LOT more than I access the *chan-verse, et al.

I have enough unique little places to go to with peculiar communities, but nowadays I think that's gradually falling out of fashion. While I can't say I honestly couldn't care less, it's not as big of a deal to me as probably some who frequent these types of places.

I recall someone here saying this place would blow up in ten years time. It's be cool if that came true.

27 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-10 16:32 ID:0o5ImetB


>I recall someone here saying this place would blow up in ten years time. It's be cool if that came true.

The only newcomers that would actually stay are people from webcore cliques and people researching japanese internet culture

28 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-15 04:26 ID:T7MVhIZj

>>1 (and geocities) didn't have to shut down (TдT)

29 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-22 21:33 ID:Bt6pOLZ4

But.... that's how it's always been.

30 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-30 02:59 ID:ivpORE8b

I am still using Windows 7. The police has not confiscated my personal computer.

31 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-30 14:18 ID:9K4F+tdY

pown it died too
what a waste

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Imageboards are dying in the Western World (38)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2017-10-01 18:26 ID:P9OB6Jyx

What kind of bizarro world do we live in where everyday person not only is terrified of a site that advocates open source ideals and pushes their user base towards creative commons but has learned from the popular media to actively resent it? What has happened to us that people are flocking towards grotesque, selfish corporations whose only interest is to satisfy their shareholders as though they were some warm, fuzzy paternal figure? What is wrong with our culture that a company like Apple--the same company that lobbies against right to repair laws, has a worker death toll in the thousands, and forces their users to throw %95 of their old merchandise in to landfills rather than recycling just to stifle third party repair practices--is lecturing us on how we should feel about gay marriage? And we're actually listening to them!

29 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-07 16:01 ID:TX6DFStK

4chan is now dead too.

The mods have started globally banning many people for 24 hours or more for "replying to off-topic garbage." They do this without linking to the post. So they can now ban you for literally any post for literally any reason and you'll never know what post it was, what board it was on, and why you were banned. It's not even possible to know what's defined as off-topic on 4chan, e.g. anime is on-topic on /tv/ but often deleted, while /g/ threads about trannies should be off-topic but actually aren't. It's absurd that users now have the responsibility to know what posts they may or may not reply to, instead of the mods deleting those posts and banning the people who made them. I also got a warning not long ago for replying to a spambot--as if I'm supposed to possess a real-time encyclopedia of all bots active on the site.

4chan's been on a downward spiral for years but this is the last straw.

30 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-07 17:04 ID:b3gY9PxC

There must be a 4chan meta thread on every English speaking board ever made, this is a law of the internet

31 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-19 00:21 ID:SUjqj1xM

Let the big boards die.

32 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-05 21:57 ID:h0vP5zii

imageboards are dead, long live imageboards

33 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-05 23:29 ID:toym7AaT

the time of small hobbyist boards is here
death to redchannit

34 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-09 21:47 ID:SgavceLp

>The mods have started globally banning many people for 24 hours or more for "replying to off-topic garbage."

Finally! It is about time someone actually moderates that shithole.

35 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-10 09:58 ID:pdfG3OQN

So they ban people who replied to off-topic threads and then ban the original posters?

36 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-10 23:08 ID:RLJxIHEQ


>The mods have started globally banning many people for 24 hours or more for "replying to off-topic garbage."

Hah! I wish.

37 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-25 18:54 ID:TX6DFStK

What exactly do you believe they are moderating? They won't say what the post was and what made it off-topic. They can't define what off-topic means on the site. Even common sense and reading the rules won't help you navigate the distinction between on and off-topic on 4chan, and the mods would sooner saw off their own limbs than explain anything to the users.

38 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-27 18:32 ID:RFc/U+Zh

Did I write this post? That's literally my exact thought on the topic. It pisses me off how a forum with such a superbly ethical structure is antagonized simply because its moderation neither condones nor condemns the content hosted there. Whereas, a service like Facebook can be literally the biggest hotbed for animal abuse, child pornography, and hate speech and be accepted in the mainstream simply because they allow themselves to be chastised. Imageboards are literally the epitome of clearnet: public forums that anyone can participate in. Facebook, in contrast, is predominantly darknet and is literally designed to cultivate echo chambers.

This whole situation makes me so devastated. Sure, imageboards are 99% shitposting, but what about that 1% spark of /real/ contact? Real human interactions, not facilitated by some Big Other, not sterilized by a mainstream consensus about what's pedagogically and politically Good. Imageboards never cared about my gender, socioeconmic status, age, race. Everyone always treated my as an equal, which is why I was constantly abased. But, in the midst of it all, there's always that spark of--by sheer entropy-friendship and love. I loved everyone on those stupid sites. I don't like posting on 4chan nowadays, but it always made me happy that someone else in my place could come along and join a community like that. Even if I never recieved credit for my contributions, I was so happy to participate. The very thought filled me up with goopy, squirmy joy. Now that I know the longevity of such cultures is much smaller than I anticipated, I feel scared and lonely. I want to kill myself. I really do. Everything I've ever done, everything I've ever worked for, down the drain. Versions of myself, unfortunate enough to have grown up during this political climate will be alienated and ostracized with no avail, no light at the end. I want to die.

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Do anonymous textboards have Buddha nature? (8)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-30 17:26 ID:Rmt5MjF3

So I was trying to explain to a namefag on some 8ch board why namefagging is bad and was inspired to find this passage off a blog:

> When the Buddha confronted the question of identity on the night of his enlightenment, he came to the radical discovery that we do not exist as separate beings. He saw into the human tendency to identify with a limited sense of existence. Then he discovered that this belief in an individual small self is a root illusion. It causes suffering and removes us from the freedom and mystery of life. He described this as interdependent arising, the cyclical process of consciousness creating identity by entering form, responding to contact of the senses, then attaching to certain forms, feelings, desires, images, and actions to create a sense of self.
> In teaching, the Buddha never spoke of humans as persons existing in some fixed or static way. Instead, he described us as a collection of five changing processes: the processes of the physical body, of feelings, of perceptions, of responses, and of the flow of consciousness that experiences them all. Our sense of self arises whenever we grasp at or identify with these patterns. The process of identification, of selecting patterns to call “I,” “me,” “myself,” is subtle and usually hidden from our awareness. We can identify with our body, feelings, or thoughts; we can identify with images, patterns, roles, and archetypes.
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2 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-31 15:00 ID:U7qtQyGn

Any religion is dumb. Sick of eastern shit getting a free pass.

3 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-31 18:19 ID:L7tsOO2j

There are many anons that still subscribe to identity politics (especially on 8ch) so I don't think it's a good comparison.

4 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-02 01:05 ID:Heaven

The notion of being able to post without your post being judged by an attached identity is completely distinct from the notion of having no identity whatsoever.

5 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-02 06:47 ID:ukCIowMt

buddha? lol fat

6 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-03 07:15 ID:fproZAKB

makes sense.

7 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-10 16:34 ID:Nr3Bycwr

what's 8ch

8 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-09-15 00:57 ID:KTC+uTxV

>>7 8chan (former imageboard, now dead)

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[TRUE ANON] Onion Chan! [ZOMG] (208)

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199 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2017-09-08 07:25 ID:Iqh3JSaM

Retard as fuck

200 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2017-10-02 23:02 ID:GPF8Xe8u

Hello people from a really long time ago. I'm from the future. And most likely, no one will really see this. Also, maybe save the CP for the .onions's.

201 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2017-10-03 01:03 ID:Heaven

Hello, person from just a few hours ago; I am from the future, and I would just like to encourage you not to bump a thread--especially an odious thread like this one--if your topic isn't even remotely relevant.

202 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2017-10-03 01:14 ID:Heaven

And for the record, Tor is only slightly better than clearnet for distributing illicit content. This is because Tor is a decentralized network, not a distributed network, and the reason why this is significant is because, in Tor, there are a lot of peers and incredibly few nodes. I could get into why distributed networks are inherently no more sustainable than clearnet, but that's another topic. Just think about it this way: if you have a network that has the capacity to be decentralized, but there's only three nodes in your proximity, it's still technically decentralized--but what is that worth? If you think Tor is a medium for protecting you're identity, you're sorely wrong. If you think Tor is a medium for hidden services, you're dead wrong.

>What about a distributed service like i2p

Ah, good question. The thing about i2p to note is that i2p is about as censorship proof (if not less) as Tor. i2p does a better job obscuring your identity, but the fact is, if you're maintaining a website that is less than savory, nobody is compelled to publicize it. So if you're looking to shit up all the i2p forums with requests for child porn, I'm afraid you'd be doing so in vain--and at the expense of other i2p denizens. The only exception to this is probably the Kad network on top of i2p.

203 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-05-01 14:49 ID:k17a6xfl

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204 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-05-02 01:52 ID:Heaven

Unless she's a nice girl with a nice cock, I don't want to see her.

205 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-05-03 15:46 ID:gbKJvKJi

Nude jailbait board

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208 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-23 19:00 ID:jtnv4CB5

I wish!

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Goodbye world2ch! (51)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2017-12-02 10:13 ID:5QTWt0//

world2ch is dead as of today, hopefully somebody has some sort of archive.

42 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-04-20 10:33 ID:JNyd0uBH

4x13-san here. Not dead!

we will return soon with new and improved features.
We had a heated discussion about the future of Sage at this year's DQN con.

Whose subback is best?


(Iyagi's resembled Emanon's, except the columns were sortable thanks to some JS code I found)

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43 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-04-21 07:14 ID:/7MjuwMx

Never thought I'd be happy to see you still alive.

44 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-05-04 13:17 ID:Heaven

Well, it seems that the dramabomb is gone as well now. I suppose that 0037 really did just keep it up by accident.
It was fun whilst it lasted. Maybe another decade from now someone will make yet another world2ch, and we'll have fun together again.
Till then, we wait.

45 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-05-27 18:12 ID:V8vb52mh


The glory days of the internet have come to a close.
The jews have destroyed any hope left and all that is left on the table now is to destroy the entire planet, killing everyone and resetting the timeline.

46 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-18 10:46 ID:7Fyu+zMW

The dramabomb seems to be back again. huh.

47 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-04 23:56 ID:7sptfKXi

tokiko, what the fuck, lol. are you still on irc?

48 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-06 02:59 ID:Heaven

He is alive and well, and was last seen publicly defecating on some weirdo's chest.

49 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-15 08:16 ID:Abrk7qla

I'm sad that site wasn't entirely archived. I would say it had important information on it.

50 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-16 15:15 ID:7Fyu+zMW

Almost everything was archived. All that's missing is some images that were on the wiki.

51 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-08-19 07:56 ID:6tYfmrK3

I made this thread

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Irony (16)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-16 21:39 ID:ax0LN/md

I find it incredibly ironic (in the traditional sense) that the people in places like 4-ch hate ironic internet humor yet are obsessed with Japanese culture, even though ironic humor has been a thing in eastern internet culture for significantly longer than it has in the west

7 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-18 03:45 ID:HLmIfSd3

Almost every active thread here is a meta thread.

8 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-18 05:11 ID:9Anr0HL/

We will not be trolled!

9 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-18 05:14 ID:9Anr0HL/


10 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-18 20:07 ID:SWI/oxY1

Will iaa survive the dimensional merge

11 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-18 23:19 ID:gEhqkgNF

Yeah, I'm not gonna post the irony copypasta you dick

12 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-19 03:41 ID:9Anr0HL/

WTF I hate Japan now

13 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-19 06:18 ID:SWI/oxY1

We should make this guy admin

14 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-23 03:38 ID:3ReHW4pQ

Nevar 14get

15 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-23 11:49 ID:/MA83dJJ

15ee wht u did thar

16 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-25 02:02 ID:cLJF9FWd

I think the affinity for Japanese culture is an unfounded exaggeration beyond simply being open to it. It's hardly an obsession.

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German imageboard Krautchan dies on 13.03.2018 (14)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-04-10 10:02 ID:W3C7gXWy was a German imageboard that was created on the first of may 2007 as successor site to a previous imageboard called Einskanal that was neglected and closed one month before the creation of Krautchan.
It was the first German imageboard with activity high enough to not be considered obscure, many German internet users and imageboarders used to lurk Krautchan either their whole internet time or just partially. /b/ accumulated over 13 million posts in almost 11 years of existence.
It was known for various trolling actions in Germany. It created various memes that spread through the German net and especially influenced German internet slang.
It was known for the creation of the /int/ board initially called /uk/ after the admin created a refugee for Britchan users that lost their site for a time. The /int/ board over time became the fastest English speaking board outside of 4chan almost reaching the 4444444 GET being faster than all the other boards of the site. The board was known for creating memes such as Polandball, Gondola and making reaction images such as sad frog and feels guy popular. 4chan and various other imageboards copied /int/ as either a place for foreigners to post or on-topic board where "international" things can be discussed. /int/ was a popular place where various foreign imageboard users also went either being targeted by raids or seeking refugee from their imageboard's neglect. This is how through Krautchan memes like Kuruminha and Spurdo spread outside their home country's imageboards.
After the loss of the site's domain the admin decided to abandon the project after being tired of hosting the imageboard for almost 11 years.
Now smaller german boards such as Ernstchan and Kohlchan are trying to overtake the crown of main german imageboard.

5 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-04-11 09:41 ID:Heaven

>The board was known for creating memes such as Polandball, Gondola and making reaction images such as sad frog and feels guy popular.
And nothing of value was lost.

6 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-04-11 10:37 ID:W3C7gXWy

Krautchan was not just the foreigner ghetto /int/
The other boards made worthwhile contributions to the German net community. In fact, it was the only site on the German internet worth lurking.
But it is funny how all of 4chans cancer uses images that were made on /int/ initially.

7 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-04-13 16:06 ID:kl6loq9t

The original Krautchan community was probably the best foreign language flavor that existed. Ironically the more restrained atmosphere made it very similar to the old canonical boards and for several years it was a "true" chan. The advent of /int/ and /bant/ styled boards while brilliant in their appeal to bring in new blood made it popular but turned it into something else, similar to what we now see at 4chan. RIP Bernd. Your contributions live on.

8 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-05-13 19:01 ID:BYXloaAi

They made an important step in the resurrection NSDAP ideolody among the middle class white people! Good job guys :3 I am proud of you

9 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-06-14 23:58 ID:YS05nw6X

It kinda makes me sad since they had a rather unique fork of Wakaba, I wonder if Der General will release Desuchan anytime soon.

10 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-06-21 03:52 ID:ggpyLBKg

RIP krautchan. I barely went there but it wasn't bad at all.

11 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-07-02 03:32 ID:5oidpz83

>kuruminha is a krautchan meme

Holt shit, kill yourself.

12 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-07-09 11:45 ID://lUjxAh

He wont. He denied my request multiple times over the last months

13 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2018-07-12 10:29 ID:0vhs8WXz

>>11 reading comprehension, my simian friend

14 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2019-07-07 02:22 ID:dhvHbMI0


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