For all the /iaa/ out there, I made a script using only PHP and HTML that displays 2ch and 2chan on an iFrame, translates the page, and are able to post with a provided Japanese proxy. Should I give this out so people can use it on their websites, or should I put it on mine and advertise my site as a free translator and poster for 2ch + 2chan?
It uses Google's translate API for any consolation.
tldr; made a 2ch+2chan script that translates the page and lets you post, should i release or use for personal gain on my website
That's cool of you, anon. I honestly think that you should try getting in touch with whoever runs this place since you are probably a regular if you are willing to solicit opinion here in the first place. Channel4's outdated 2ch portal would be "alive" again with your script. There's the added advantage that frequent users here you could at least trust marginally more to not abuse it versus some random with their own site. You could always continue to develop it with more features and put an improved beta version up on your own site to advertise.
Might just do that, how do I contact bps?
i think its a good idea
but im not sure if people would pay you to use it
why would I make it not free? that sucks man. it's gonna be free. if bps doesnt return my contact, then I'll just share my site on /iaa/
Tired of waiting. I will post the link here as soon as I get home for the 2ch+2chan browser/poster.
this is why we cant have nice things
I'm at the combination pizza bell taco hut
It's looking like 4chan is economically struggling and needs to scale back or go under. Not a good investment on the part of the Japanese. On the other hand, our beloved 4-ch, in it's state of minimalist backwater, is well suited to be the cockroach of 'chans that survives them all.
Actually, I do believe it. The model for that site is untenable in the long term, as ad revenue from fleshlight shops will only go so for to pay the hosting for such high traffic.
Scaling back (limiting pic size as he said) and dumping liabilities like /pol/ (bad PR) could lower costs and maybe get more revenue.
Maybe Japan was planing this all along, to revert chan domination to the homeland. Buy 4chan and then sink it...it's Pearl Harbor all over again.
>it's Pearl Harbor all over again.
I will admit, though, a part of me likes the idea that 4chan might go. I know it's kind of juvenile of me, especially when a site like 4chan is sorely needed in the mainstream, where most social media sites prefer to exploit, abuse, and generally just fuck over their massive user base, but I also really want imageboards to be an elitist, underground thing. I want that relatively small community of nerds whose passion in their respective interests easily exceeded what quality control and moderation had ever done.
Even though 4chan is pretty much the reason why internet culture is what it is today, I still get bugged when huge figureheads such as the news and celebrities like Lauren Mayberry or that Martin Shkreli guy namedrop 4chan, because, to me, it feels like they're not mentioning 4chan for what it is: a great medium for users to communicate with one another, but just to inflate their reputation and inflate their egos, and that kind of mysticism, in my opinion, is what's stopping 4chan and other imageboards from interfacing and being cherished by the mainstream in the same way Facebook or Snapchat is. Too many people are coming into imageboards obsessed with the image itself than in using it to discuss things that would otherwise be embarrassing, or reputation-ruining. Hell, you can even discuss normal stuff. 4chan isn't always great, but it draws in an audience that is waay better than the sort of masturbatory crowd thank makes up sites like Reddit. What other outlet exists that are like that? I need a website like 4chan in my life. I think we all do.
>4chan isn't always great, but it draws in an audience that is waay better than the sort of masturbatory crowd thank makes up sites like Reddit.
Dumb gaijin think Hiroyuki will sell the site. He did the same thing with 2channel a few years back.
It's a trick!
Milo Yiannopoulos is also considering bidding for 4chan. Will he turn the whole thing into one big /pol/?
The thing about 4chan is is that there are boards like /m/ that can have some really interesting threads on stuff like obscure classic anime. I remember an /m/ thread where a guy uploaded a slew of vinyl rips from "digital trip" albums which were Moog synth covers of OSTs from classics like Captain Harlock...great shit.
There's just a lot of chaff to sort through.
there is no financial trouble. hiro has advertisers. the site is not dying and he told shkreli he has no interest in selling.
you people oversensationalize things because you have nothing going on in your daily life
hiro did the same thing with 2ch a few years back
rinse and repeat
It's still pretty surreal to me how people had been joking about paid-only boards and 4chan Gold accounts for years and now it's actually happened. Who knows now what wacky stunt Nishimura's gonna pull next? Wouldn't surprise me if Hiro gets booted again for letting credit card info get compromised.
I long for the day we no longer discuss every single 4chan event here.
Boy am I tired of it. I'll just leave it at that.
Or being autistic enough to take the VIP part seriously when VIP was from the start the trash can of the News section from 2ch.
Last I checked, most threads on SAoVQ don't even contain AA. What's your point?
Why did the saovq owner suddenly vanish and refuse to talk to anyone from the community? It is most strange..... he is balming wverybosy for one bad thing that happpened? but what even happened. The reaction is to brash for him to have just got bored of the site
>none of the users understand VIP culture
what do you guys expect 4chan is full of retards who don't even understand imageboard culture
I was thinking exactly that. This is basically SA for people who were too late to the party.
ITT: we list textboard sites we know of!
Thanks for posting BAI, I forgot about it. It's surprisingly active. More so than 4-ch I think.
Speaking of BaI, are there any other Spanish language image/textboards? I'd love the opportunity to brush up on my spanish while posting.
Hispachan is terrible. The admin takes everything that made 4chan terrible on purpose just to rack up visits and posts. It's truly saddening.
have some Gary Mckinnon information documents, that he got from marianas web, or, the goverment servers ?
there are some links, maybe usefull
Torch - Tor Search Engine. Claims to index around 1.1 Million pages.
Grams - Search Darknet Markets and more.
All the recent developments are atleast very very frightening.
Anyway, powers who are surveiling the net don't actually need to compromise Tor, when they already watch source AND destination of the traffic, which the NSA is doing already(they are recording likely 99% of all traffic at this point). So Tor is by definition already useless to NSA. Only full system encrypted Nets like I2P or Freenet are fine, but there, the source/destination system can be compromised, especially since it's using back-/bugdoored Javashit.
Short: We have lost, badly.
We Will Rise
We Are Here
Does anyone else feel it? There's a new paradigm afoot that's taken hold here, the places we frequent and the Internet in general.
There used to be a general cohesiveness, a sense of community. That we were truly in a way, as we used to say, a band of brothers. A shared purpose, a shared history. That we were more alike than we were different, even during feuds. We belonged. I'm not sure if it's the new nature of the net, which is more diverse and inclusive, displacing the white male nerd. Or the younger generation co-opting and usurping our culture taking it for their own. Perhaps both. Maybe we've matured and have moved on with our lives (let's not kid ourselves, most havent).
I can't help but feel as I sit here typing this on my smartphone, like an old man, sitting in a diner alone, wearing a cap with the insignia of the military unit he was once a part of. Eating my meal with a sense of loss and a profound melancholy. We've been through so much together and it seems to amount to nothing these days.
What can we do? Will we ever feel that sense of belonging again? Are we waiting for a new site, a new community, another paradigm shift? Or just rotting away at the end of it all, time to pack our bags.
I'll bite. It's late and I just spilled coffee all over myself and the table, but I'll take a moment and try to whip up a thought on the subject.
This is not another run-of-the-mill "nobody is posting on 4-ch, the sky is falling!" narrative that we've seen countless times before and in fact still suffer through every other week. Nor is it me just idly pining for the old days, throwing it out there for others to passively agree with (though what more can we do?). You reveal your unfamiliarity with this website >>9, by asking for examples, as it's obvious to us what I'm speaking of. It's nothing arcane, and if you've been around, you'll see it too.
Here's something. Though it's only a part of the puzzle, I could count on one hand the websites in the chaniverse that have survived as long as 4-ch. I've seen the rise and fall of websites large and small. What really got me thinking about this was the demise of iichan/Wakachan last year. It's happened before but it never left me with such a bleak feeling. It was one of the few places that still clearly resembled "our hangout" - a comparatively undiluted culture not that far removed from 4-ch's new imageboard. Which to me feels a little too stale, a little too haphazard, though a welcome diversion. Only a few users have stayed on with the intention of continuing the site and what was already an extremely slow pace has trickled down into nothingness. We've seen the same here. We've seen the same in other places. We've seen 4chan finally succumb to the cancer almost completely. I know next to nothing about 8ch as it's long after my time and have only heard about it from people like the ones posting in this thread. To be honest, I think some of us have really struggled to define why we post here.
there's a saying: "The amount of effort required to refute bullshit is a hundred times higher than the amount needed to produce it". This might sound of kind tin foil but I think on major sites there are people being paid2post who say disruptive things and ruin discussion. Basically there is an economic imbalance that makes it extremely hard for high quality discussion and posting to survive. Almost like the physical law of entropy - everything grinds down into fucking dust eventually.
>I'm like a junkie that's been told they don't make my drug anymore.
I never thought about it this way but it's so true. I have no reservations admitting im an internet addict, but the high is gone. there's no website i care about or am excited to go to these days. it's not the same at all.. but I am restlessy searching.
The loss of iichan/Wakachan was a big deal. Another thing that hit me hard was secret area of vip quality too vanishing. Especially with no archive of the site. At least we have a replacement.
>there's no website i care about or am excited to go to these days. it's not the same at all..
We all feel this way. But that begs the question－what are we gonna do about it, if anything? Why aren't we rallying behind the cause to restore what once was? Have we accepted defeat? Or has our internet addiction grown so far that no matter what we do, we'll never experience that same "high" again, as we did in the past?
>Anyway, before the current age of the internet, there was always an inherent belief that we were "going somehwere" and while some of us were content to just take the ride, it now feels.... anticlimactic?
This is a good articulation of a way I've been feeling for a while. I think communities truly die when they lose that feeling of actually heading in some kind of direction. Once you lose that, contributing valuable content, etc, tends to be less appealing because it doesn't feel like there's a point to it.
The biggest problem is that when you artificially try to set up a community to try and avoid this malaise, everyone is already feeling it and the community will fail because people enter already cynical. Pandora's box and all that.
I think maybe it's like being on a train. Even if you're only going to some pointless stuffy business meeting, it feels bad when the train isn't moving. Even if the train was moving in the wrong direction anyway, it felt good to see scenery go by and feel the carriage shake a bit. Now that it's stopped the illusion has been lost.
>The biggest problem is that when you artificially try to set up a community to try and avoid this malaise, everyone is already feeling it and the community will fail because people enter already cynical. Pandora's box and all that.
Don't refer to it as though it's irreversible. Yes, the state of the internet (and arguably, the state of the entire civilization) is in a bit of a pinch right now. Yes, there's no purpose for us to rally behind, and that sentiment is echoed by multiple generations of all walks of life, but that doesn't mean we can't find something. If we work together instead of wailing and gnashing our teeth at what was lost, we might just get the train going again.
I'll agree on that first point but; the problem cannot be fixed by only overlays, but with added cultural obscurity aswell. No amount of encryption on its own will keep someone from content they really really want to find, if they believe it to be "viral".
4chan was only a obscure site for nerds until it wasnt, just like youtube was just a place to upload and watch average user's videos until it wasn't. The new cultural and economic emphasis on qualities of uniqueness, virility, easier living through computing, and novelty, create a machine of events that can bring any subculture to its knees before the mainstream in a month or less. Unique ideas get run through the wringer and retired to the recycle bin in the name of progress; creating a vacuum that only new cultures and memes can fill
It would be cool if there was a symbol or something to use in the wild, to just talk with other browsers on the street, but with the speed that things get appropriated these days it's effectiveness and novelty would be short lived.
Without getting too chatty, i believe you about the disruption. Maybe it'll be a phase, like adbots. Maybe. I hope...
>the problem cannot be fixed by only overlays, but with added cultural obscurity as well.
Added layers of obstruction create obscurity because the average internet user has no idea how to set up the things necessary to visit a site hidden from Google's indexes, much less from ICANN's IP address space. Hell, anything more complicated than typing a URL into an address bar or installing an app is increasingly becoming too difficult for the average internet user. This is partly because the internet userbase is ever expanding to include more of the lowest common denominator, partly because uncustomizable mobile phones and tablets have become the majority of internet-connected devices (on the user side anyway).
>4chan was only a obscure site for nerds until it wasnt, just like youtube was just a place to upload and watch average user's videos until it wasn't.
That didn't happen by chance. The sites' respective administrations never put a brake on things, but in fact encouraged further growth and change. Because both were motivated by money to do so. Moot could have easily cracked down on the unwanted behaviors that exposed 4chan to the vast multitudes of people who should not be there, but he didn't because he saw opportunity in growth no matter how much he denies 4chan ever being profitable. YouTube/Google could have easily not created the partnership program and kept more sincere and original content made by the average person alive, but they saw opportunity and went for it.
>The new cultural and economic emphasis on qualities of uniqueness, virility, easier living through computing, and novelty, create a machine of events that can bring any subculture to its knees before the mainstream in a month or less. Unique ideas get run through the wringer and retired to the recycle bin in the name of progress; creating a vacuum that only new cultures and memes can fill
Adam Curtis (BBC Documentary maker. Watch all of his stuff now, read his entire blog, then watch his stuff again, he's wonderful.) Wrote a nice piece on something along these lines.
>"Bernbach's enthusiasm for the idea of 'difference' became the magic cultural formula by which the life of consumerism could be extended indefinitely, running forever on the discontent that it itself had produced"
One has to wonder if the internet (and with it, theoretically near-instantaneous communication of what's cool and what isn't) has taken this little cycle of consumerism and sped it up to the point where it risks tearing itself apart from centrifugal forces. Stuxnet for culture.
"Finally, the rain stops, and a rainbow appears there" means world peace in knowledge which a Japanese tourist needs.
Atleast a list that is as active or even more active than 4-ch
shit like 2ch or 2chan or yilyuata or something
why did you sage
it makes no fucking sense
you clearly answered my question with a good and varied response so why on earth would you sage
you CLEARLY wanted me to see it, so why would you not bump it?
it makes no fucking sense
Current I just have 4-ch and Last FM.
Too many to count. Digital hoarding is a really bad habit of mine.
gmail, 4ch, 4 youtube videos that i haven't bothered finishing, brackets
if you have any old chan stuff pay they bibanon IRC a visit - they like collecting it to make history notes.
4-ch, a few resources on engagement rings, and some stuff for self-teaching Python
A wikipedia page, 4-ch, the /mu/ archive (I don't actually use the board, just the archive for links to albums), and a documentary about walmart.
4-ch and himasugi
4-ch krautchan 2ch
gmail, youtube, brackets.io, and podbay
4-ch and edenofthewest
The art/critique board on a different site that I used to frequent has been getting rather shitty in the past several weeks, and now is apparently in danger of outright deletion. Are there any other sites with a solid art section that you know of?
You could at least post the website you're talking about.