Love and Romance @4-ch

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I've been waiting.... (779)

1 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-08 06:46 ID:rBmL8F/W

I'm usualy just a lurker around the board, but today i have a story... recently i been posting about long distance relationship because I really like this girl that lives in japan. but i live in australia so its really hard if i want to confess to her.. well this is how it all started...

Around 2005 April, i was picked on by some people at school because of my hobby, which is movie making. I'm really like a movie otaku, i love watching movies thats why my dream is to become a film director. most of the girls i knew, i told them about my hobby and they would all ne like "isn't that like really immature??" and later on wont ever talk to me.. it was around November when i was on a japanese pen pal website where i met the japanese girl, her name was Aya. we started emailing each other talking about school and life style ect. then i asked her if she used skype and she said she uses it so we added each other. we started talking in skype, (to those who doesn't know its like msn but you use microphone to talk). for the first time, i told her i'm into film making... she unlike the other girls was actualy intrested in it.. she asked me when can i show her my movie.

we talked almost everyday, mostly for 2 hours and we can always talk about anything like movies, anime, school, music ect.. then one night... we talked for 6 hours! i only had 2 hour sleep because i had to wake up for tennis lessons >"< we got more close after that. for christmas i bought her a bracelet and air mailed it to her, she liked it alot. one day i got her email but was really surprised... usualy at the end of the email she would just write "from Aya" but this time she wrote "Love from Aya". i had this feeling when i saw it. after that, i didn't hear from her for 2 weeks and then one night i got her email asking when can i talk to her... but after that... I've waited for a month and stil counting on... I emailed her before saying i have something to tell her because i planned to confess to her next time we talk.. but now i dont think i can do it because i reckon its highly likely i may get rejected since we are so far away _| ̄|○" the feeling with this girl is different from all the other girls i liked. should i confess or not??

770 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-08-27 05:25 ID:jcIMly5d

Why didn't I discover this thread sooner?!!

771 Name: 映画男 : 2016-10-05 07:11 ID:xFgyl7WD

Sigh I just went through two months of literally hell in June when i moved back to melbourne , will find time to update everyone

772 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-11-02 04:28 ID:6Pk/4yBt

I hope things are going well my friend.

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774 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-11-25 10:16 ID:znN+X0Q7

benson, you do it wrong. after 10y you have to know it.
i recommend read:
mark manson - models - a comprehensive guide to attracting women
mark manson - the subtle art of not giving a fuck

775 Name: 映画男 : 2017-06-27 06:34 ID:KyBe68c7

its been so long since i posted and so much has happened.
but long story short i managed to pick my self up in the end, I found out Miya actually got together with someone else last year and is getting married soon which was super shocking for me.
What really helped me get better was i started gyming last year and it really helped me mentally and physically.
I've been hanging out with a lot of friends who came back from melbourne and met a few nice people.

Will find time to update, sorry i disappeared for so long.

776 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-09-27 11:28 ID:gxRnV2sw

Take care of yourself Eiga!

777 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-09-27 19:27 ID:R17RJeHy

dicks out for Harambe

778 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 16:51 ID:mnMwLx42


779 Name: 映画男 : 2018-06-09 09:58 ID:nX6JtAy+

hey there, just to let you guys know i'm still alive

i moved to china last year and started a new life again, been here for 7 months.
I'm actually about to start dating with a women who's 5 years older then me.

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Race Preferences? (12)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-05 12:03 ID:U2v1Bz3S

Somehow, I find that different races tend to have different preferences. I'm a Vietnamese girl, but I find that Chinese guys tend to prefer girls who are more docile, shy, short, and skinny.
Then I find that Vietnamese guys have a less focused preference, but generally the same thing.
Lastly, I find that white people (sorry for the generalization) tend to like taller girls with lighter hair and a little more meat than what the Chinese guys do. Is this just my imagination...?

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-05 14:06 ID:RTnsM3ov

I think it is definately hard to generalise in that way. Personally I have LOTS of preferences, i am a White English/Polish tall, blonde dude.... but i find Chinese, Japanese and asian women in general very attractive. However i could say the same sometimes about any girl i meet who is pretty. Although you may have a type who you tend to prefer its strange how rarely you actually end up dating someone who is of that type... my girlfriend is danish :)

A lot of people will have race preferences for what they feel most comfortable with or people of the same race as them but in a city like London you see so many different types of people its impossible to stick to being attracted to only one!


4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-05 21:25 ID:Heaven

It's not the question of race, just personal preference.
I'm a white guy and I like short and slim girls and I like black or brown hair more than blonde.
And I too find eastern (Chinese, Korean, Japanese) women attractive too.

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-06 14:28 ID:Heaven


Vietnamese girls?

Aren't they are sucker to white guys?

Most Vietnamese girls would even marry to those old white men for security and money, and having luxury of being white.

6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 18:47 ID:lzH2MORC

dicks out for Harambe

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-17 18:25 ID:ySvKodMz

Only if they are fresh off the boat.
Americanized Asians are the worst

8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-18 07:52 ID:UiYFnMBb

I agree, it's just wrong. I hate other cultures being "Americanized" I mean what's so fucking great about America anyways? It's a "shithole" if you ask me.

9 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-03-10 01:34 ID:sAx5ykrL

I'm currently seeing a girl who is mixed Mexican and German. It's a combination I never even thought of, when I think mixed race girls I'm usually a fan of European-Indian or European-Asian girls. I'm so inexperienced with a mix like this that I don't know if they're all as cute as her, or she's the exception. She almost looks like a hapa in some ways, especially her eyes and that rosiness to her cheeks/nose.

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11 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-04-16 16:46 ID:qmcUzh21

Mexican-German is common in Texas.

12 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-05-13 15:33 ID:xXxe26zJ

That's intriguing, a lot of her family is actually from the South. Maybe I've just lived in the wrong part of the world to experience it often.

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Living An Alternate Ending (7)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-03-29 10:33 ID:8EQnL1T3

I've been considering writing my story here for a long time, but I tend to get exhausted with how many details there are, how deep the story goes, and I'm someone who can easily write huge posts to fulfill how much I feel I need to write sometimes.

That being said, I felt like writing a shorter version of an otherwise long saga in my life that has occurred over the past 12 years.

In 2006 I met someone who permanently became a huge influence on my life. It wasn't long after I got my first computer after I turned 15, and after I turned 16 I met her. (I'm a guy).
We fell in love quickly and overcame many trials together, facing a daunting long-distance relationship, family issues, and life-complications. Our relationship was very special and it wasn't just my opinion- we were a couple everyone rooted for and knew pretty well back in the Myspace days. We traveled across the country several times over 5 years and talked every day. Both of us were faithful and true to each other, and we took pride in proving the naysayers wrong who didn't approve of our long distance love. We experienced many things together (watched movies, shows, talked all day and night, gamed together a little) and more whether we were far away or beside each other. She gave me an energy I have never felt since those days, caused me to face fears- made me feel it was possible to overcome even the big ones I hadn't faced yet- some that are beyond impossible for me since. She was everything to me and I loved her fiercely. Our love was so strong that everyone we knew, knew it well, like we were some kind of protagonists in a movie. You get the point.

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2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-03-29 10:34 ID:8EQnL1T3

Part 2

At the very end of it all her friends were telling me they were starting to have a relationship, around each other all the time, even talking to her he was sitting practically on top of her right there while I was on the phone- then I saw it...she went to prom and he was her date. I felt hurt, so much. People counseled me, so many people, but I couldn't believe that this was just some teenage love crap that would go away. It hasn't. Its been with me daily since 2009...Life since wasn't the same, and I have this constant feeling like something isn't right. I kept in contact with her, because I love her to this day in a way that no one does. Later on in '09 I spoke with her and she was having a baby with him...that seemed to seal the deal that it was fate that we were officially done for good.

I unfriended her for a while, time passed, and a friend of mine who was a girl was there for me, we eventually started going out, and started dating. Thing was, as much as I cared about my next girlfriend, deep inside was still an emptiness I couldn't explain. I eventually accepted that I had to move on, and I put nearly all of my energy into my hobbies and work and created some amazing things with my time, propelled my career into great heights, and started an almost new life altogether.
I got married in 2013, but am getting divorced as of 2015...that one is a whole different story which hurt my life more than it hurt me, but after it all I felt free. And I immediately went to sort of confess to the original girl I still love so much.

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3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-03-29 10:34 ID:8EQnL1T3

part 3

We're still friends on social media, but we haven't talked in a couple years....and the sad part is, our messages- every entry is a happy birthday because thats the only thing we say to each other anymore...
I have dreams about her, holding her like I did the last day I did, waking up alone with the bitter reality. I feel all the time like she should be beside me, but no one's there. Like none of this was supposed to happen but it did. Somehow. Our chance meeting and beautiful, unbelievable story together that I'm pretty sure if someone knew all the details of and could somehow see it, would become a movie or something- somehow it didn't go the right way at the very last second...I constantly feel like I'm living an Alternate Ending of a video game...every day is grey without her, and she doesn't know how much I'm suffering at all. She thinks I live a new life full of my career and happiness, but I'm quite sad. I love her always and forever...I don't know what could ever be done to get through to her...
v_v Its like a pain I bear...I love her so much, and it hasn't gone away in almost 10 years...

Thats all for now. :/
Geeze that felt good to get out.

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5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-04-04 23:28 ID:216d1ISV

Take some comfort knowing that at least one other person who's browsed this board is going through a similar ordeal. All we can do is enjoy the fact that we had the opportunity to love at all, and go into our lonely endgames with some dignity.

6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-04-17 05:43 ID:L8FQ2Uvl

I thought I was in the same boat. Then I met the woman sleeping next to me. Yes, this is a different route, but it doesn't have to be a bad or grey end.

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-04-17 17:55 ID:N4iKIwun

I can't relate. I've been in relationships with boundary issues like you've stated but toil and travail have taken the relative luxury of that sort of naïve love from my reach and thankfully from my mind. I work so much that I could scarcely imagine putting so much time into talking to a woman or anything else for that matter.

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Bored with my girlfriend (8)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2012-09-09 12:40 ID:EAoiqQHH

My girlfriend is boring. She never initiates conversation or makes suggestions. She has no opinions. When watching movies or listening to music, she never really gets it. She's not unintelligent, just extremely plain and a little slow. Even our telephone conversations will often go for minutes of pure silence. Even when asked a direct question, she will deliberate for an inordinate amount of time before coming up with a short noncommittal answer. Her responses to everything are so passive that it just drains all my passion.

We've been together nearly 2 years, and have both sacrificed to be together. She recently quit her job to move in with me. She is deeply in love with me and I strongly suspect she is aiming to get married in a few years. I love her too, yet I often find myself fighting with feelings of frustration and boredom.

The longer this goes on, the harder it will be to be to end it. Even now, breaking up would be devastating for her. Yet I'm worried that the longer it goes on, the more frustrated I'm going to become. And due to her extremely passive nature, even if I start treating her poorly she'll just sit back and take it. I don't want it to come to that.

2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2012-09-11 17:59 ID:uFNs+Eof

Have you spoken to her about this? How did she react?

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2012-09-12 12:22 ID:ZW/4G+Lc

You should talk to her about it first off. Bring it up.

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2012-09-12 15:46 ID:mhlZ6eFU

Maybe she really has a lot of opinions and feelings and such, she's just afraid to express them at risk of being criticized or mocked for having incorrect ideas. If this is the case, you should try to get her to open up. Like >>2 and >>3 said, ask her directly.

5 Name: Qante : 2017-12-19 08:57 ID:1/MWQQR1

If you're bored with your girlfriend, then this is your problem. First of all, you know whom to choose, and secondly, that means you did not try to find a common passion for both of you. How do you spend your time? Does she like to read? And you? There are so many topics in the world that can be discussed and will be interesting. My boyfriend and I often watch films, choose good ones , go for walks and meet friends. We are not bored. Think about how to spend time with her and you will have fun.

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7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-16 21:12 ID:LTW6vK7e

This explains my situation perfectly however I'm in 6 years now with her. And it's completely got to the point of pure misery. However I can't just leave her because I have no where to go. No license, no car, and no job. I wouldn't be able to survive without her. This is truly suffering.

8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-02-27 09:25 ID:ieAOLyof



That's likely just the point. Get a job and you will appreciate her more again. It's just because you just see her too much. Also likely lurking the whole day in your room/appartment. So the brain won't get any new inspiration and stimulation.

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I want to fuck my friend's sister (7)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-10 23:28 ID:51a2KX+r

I want to fuck my friend's sister
She is 3 years younger than me. How do

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3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-16 21:10 ID:ZqtUWC8n

How old are you?

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-17 18:23 ID:51a2KX+r

I am 20

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-18 07:53 ID:ZqtUWC8n

That's not too bad, when I was 20 I was fucking a 14 year old. Her mom was cool with it so. Hell I was even living there.

Her mom just said it was okay as long as I shared some of my drugs.

6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-01-20 21:12 ID:51a2KX+r

that sounds like a bomb ass deal. i just love how small and thin she is, she's got to be tight as hell too. it just feels shitty because he's one of my best friends.

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2018-02-27 09:22 ID:0y3+JjyJ

maybe he is ok with it if he is allowed to watch

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hiiiiiiiiiiii (1)

1 Name: grooby : 2018-01-18 09:04 ID:9oJEn5FY

Other members are looking for you!

Find easy Trans SEX tonight

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At what point does penis size become a problem? (8)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-02 06:07 ID:DlGDQ7zy

So, gals, how small can a penis be before it's an issue in bed logistics wise?

2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-02 09:16 ID:Heaven

So, how come you missed the sexuality board?

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-08 22:27 ID:BISNrDlJ

anything less than 5inches.

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-09 05:54 ID:4KErSokN

It depends on how small her pussy is. Also, length is not everything--width is good. I masturbated for year with the handle of a mag-lite flashlight, so anything too much smaller than that is a problem for me. But I have a friend who is very small, and could not fit said mag-lite without much pain. Things that I would find too small to be very pleasurable she would find just right.

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6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 18:47 ID:mUaaO4Ts

dicks out for Harambe

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-27 21:07 ID:Heaven

Well done >>6! For once in your, you've managed to understand the thread you've spammed to, congratulations!

8 Name: Ashamed >>7 : 2017-11-27 21:07 ID:Heaven

l-l-life that is
for once in your life

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Oh dear god (16)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-22 18:36 ID:kpIoOp5I

Right better get started.

On the third i arrived back home but my girlfrined then (of two years) had changed, her whole personality changed.. she then split up with me on the saturday and i was devastated cause i came home thinking of the girl i fell in love with. since then ive been going out with friends and ive been seeing some girls about and i think i like them but i still think of my ex... last night Me and a girl (whos also had a fucked up time with some guys) asked me to have sex with her on this friday... although i feel like this is making me being used and i dont want that... i have never met this girl in person but my friends have and they dont think to highly of her and im still not over my ex... stupid me agreeded to it... Now im not wanting to do it... im going to give myself plenty of time to recover from the last i think and just have a laugh with my friends as i have been doing for the past few weeks... I just dont know how to explain this to this girl and i know she cuts herself because she doesnt get what she wants.... i dont want her to do that obviously.

I just want to get out of this complication so i can carry on...

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-23 13:24 ID:dRRC29os


Today I saw an overreaction on the internet.

8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-23 14:24 ID:hKL/Epgh

People who cut themselves are FUCKING NUTS. You do not need that in your life.

Run, Forrest, run!

9 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-23 15:02 ID:kpIoOp5I

>>8 haha yea ive just run and im going to the pub instead.. oh well thread over :D

>>4 Sorry I usually Speak french so My english is not good

10 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-23 18:04 ID:Heaven


>People who cut themselves are FUCKING ATTENTION WHORES. You do not need that in your life.


11 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-23 18:49 ID:p2prI5NS

both apply!

12 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-24 11:27 ID:Heaven


13 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-25 11:12 ID:379AdfcH

i was showing OP an example of a real troll so he doesn't cry wolf next time.

14 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-25 16:05 ID:Heaven


There are trolls
There are just plain idiots

Both may draw harsh reactions

The "Broken sentence homg ADD hor sumthang!"-shit indicates either one or both. Was it a crude joke or something?

15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-26 14:35 ID:kd4jQXgO

hahah probably...

16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 18:46 ID:vagOmo4Q

dicks out for Harambe

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Sex: The point of it? (40)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-31 03:51 ID:R+WW1uHk

I need some good reasons for why ("normal") sex isn't a bad/gross thing one needs to avoid when in a loving relationship with someone, whether it be very long term (even including marriage) or shorter term.

one-night stand reasons need not apply.

None of these reasons either:

  • "(´^ิ౪^ิ) It's fun and feels good! Durrrr" (none of the too selfish, short-term reasons)
  • "To reproduce!" (this thread deals with sex that isn't supposed/likely to spawn offspring)

I would like some practical reasons for why it's actually useful for the relationship, as well as for the people involved with it. I also would like reasons for why jacking off isn't in the same league as sex within a stable and loving relationship (even though jacking off isn't a bad thing to do at all).

Most of you seem to be a clever bunch, I'd be happy and grateful for any help with this issue. I hope it isn't a too tall order.

31 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-24 23:46 ID:TQlWxESv

damn straight. I bet the shoe would be more responsive too.

32 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-25 05:47 ID:Heaven

>>29 figure out a way to reproduce with an synthetic womb
That and lolimaidbots will make women useless forever.

33 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-25 07:53 ID:TQlWxESv

>>32 the inventor of lolitron will be a rich man.

34 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-28 13:37 ID:G2lBudzO


35 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-28 13:40 ID:Heaven


36 Name: N/A : 2006-08-29 06:39 ID:mHPviwcN

Humans, apart from dolphins are the only species to have sex for pleasure. it goes to show that if dolphines d it too then it cant be wrong. It is away of strengthening a bond in a relationship and of getting closer to another human being. If done right its about the closest two people can get. For some people that kind of inimacy is reasuring and in a way necessary. Everybody needs love and it is just a way of showing your love for another person that goes abve and beyond what you do to show love to friends and family. but for others its just about the sex. (the pure physical pleasure)

37 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-29 08:34 ID:Heaven

I like to play tennis with my friend because it's fun and it feels good. Sorry for being so selfish.

38 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-29 16:51 ID:3jzPtOiA

>>36 Please check your sources on that one. Plenty of species have homosexual experiences for bonding or pleasure, which have nothing to do with reproducing.

39 Name: N/A : 2006-08-29 21:11 ID:mHPviwcN


I dont pretend to know everything
was just quoating a fact that i had herd, which is at least partly true. i just wanted to answere the post that sex is not just about sex...some of the time...and that for some people the point of it is the emotional connection as well as the physical pleasure.

40 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 18:45 ID:7J9D7dd/

dicks out for Harambe

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monopoly (6)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-25 19:30 ID:OfxsV9M8

I have made a horrible discovery. Devastating in scale and impact on humanity, I have realized the existence of an age-old conspiricy against mankind. I am talking about a massive monopoly power, whose power stretches over the whole earth and whose influence is directly known by every man. Deadweight losses (an economic term, sorry for that) are tremendous:

This will come as a shock, but womanity (female humans) has a monopoly on sex. They use cultural mechanisms to bar men from suitable alternatives such as: goats, rodents, sheep, various other barnyard animals, willing men, and right as well as left hands. This reduces the sexual alleviation supply to only all women on earth multiplied by their average sexual availability.

Obviously, this pales in comparison to the sexual demand from men. Because of their feindish control of cultural restraints however, women are able to extract a price from their service far above the competitive equilibrium. Unfortunately, this reinforces their control on cultural restraints. The downside of this institution is a massive group of men whose demands are insufficiently or not at all satisfied. This calls for action.

Whereas some monopolies need to exist, for example to exploit economies of scale, this monopoly power is completely detrimental to male society. Therefore, my fellow comrades, let us bring down this heinous crime against mankind. Now is the time to stand up for our rights. SPEAK OUT TO THE WORLD!!! YOUR OPINION MATTERS, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!

2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-25 20:14 ID:Heaven

We have rape. End of discussion.

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-26 03:10 ID:Heaven


4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-26 04:11 ID:Heaven

What the fuck kind of argument is this? Saged.

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-26 09:24 ID:Heaven

irony bump!

oh wait no.

6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 15:18 ID:1XhNN89i

dicks out for Harambe

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