Hello. I have lost interest in women. Mainly because my standards are too high. I used to think that I liked mean and bitchy women. Then I realized, that I really don't and that was a momentary fetish. What I REALLY like is dark, superficially gothic looking girls(nothing too far out, just dressed in all black with short page boy black hair) who are kind of waifish and look dark and bleak but aren't really. Like Hotaru or something. Realizing that
A: These women don't exist
B: Anyone who looks like this is not going to have the personality I want.
I have decided to give up on women. I don't like any of them anymore. I mean, yeah I've had some girlfriends and all of that but it was all ultimately unsatisfying. They all have this Lame "Princess" thing where they want everything to be about them. I like someone quiet, gentle, but really dark inside. Kinda nihilistic, but a little sweet without being "in your face". I'm just kind of disappointed. Yeah I could CONFORM and just settle with what's out there. But whatever. I'm fairly decent off and I take care of myself. Looks and starting relationships are not the problem. I can start relationships, but end up not liking the girl or anything because they are all too....umm..what's the word. Pedestrian.
PS I'm not gay and have no intentions of experimenting.
Your standards.. really are way too high. There is nothing wrong with getting out of the game though or just slow playing it.
You know deep down...Deep deep down, I feel as though, that if I stuck to my guns that such a person may exist.
For now, I exit the game.
the game is hard, i'm thinking of giving up, its like im curesed to fail in every relationship, as for standards you should look at your self and look for girls that are at your standards, if ur just average then dont go for realy hot girls, thats imposiable.
Your standards aren't too high, they're too specialized. Even if this kind of girl existed in your life, there's no reason that she would like you, or that you would be compatible together.
Reading your post, it sounds like you've got a list of ideal characteristics that you're trying to match a real woman to. Of course you'll be disappointed when she doesn't meet your expectations.
It's too bad that you've given up. There are so many different kinds of women out there, if you're willing to look.
I am no one average. I am no one special or important. I mean I'm not a millionaire nor am I high in political office. But I am hardly average. I am fairly well to do. Much better than my peers. This is due to hard work and personal sacrifice. For this I want no Kudos. I don't necessarily want a "hot" girl. "hot" girls tend to be whores. 5 is right, my tastes are specialized. But I feel that if such a specialized person existed, she would like me on some level. I feel that life is full of disappointment. I am not lovelorn nor am I obsessive for female attention. It is just that I am tired of being bored and I am tired of hangers on and drama games. I want what I want. I like these traits that I find exotic. I like that dark innocence. The waifishness. The Kind heart covered in darkness. I feel it complements me. Or at least, pleases me. I am no one odd. At least I don't appear that way.
Hmm....
Quitting entirely sounds very harsh. It's so 'final'...Anyway, I believe we are both in the same place right now. Too tired with 'blah' relationships. And the prospect of starting over, doing the same song and dance, seems daunting. However, I still won't quit cold turkey like that. I don't think you really want a highly specialized girl. I think what you really want is romance. People would probably think you're crazy and tell you that it just doesn't happen, but there's nothing wrong with trying.
It's not Game Over yet. I'ts just "waiting in the dug-out for your turn at bat."
>>1 Maybe you pretend high quality, but you don't give back the quality you want... :S
>>1
ur that guy from the other thread arent you? you be messed
>>8
Let me put it this way buddy. When it comes to quality, I am like walking talking Sig Sauer. I am so quality you'd swear I was Swiss. I'm not perfect and not without my problems. But I stand by my record. Any woman or man who deems me not of a high standard of quality, probably isn't worthy of my attention anyways.
>>9
Yes I AM the guy from the other thread. I do have weird tastes, but discovered that meanness is not what I really like. It is waifishness and a bleak demure demeanor. It's just this is probably healthier for me.
It sounds like you are not really sure as to what kind of woman you want. So, maybe you should experience more women before deciding to give up.
>>11
No, because that would make me not unlike a slut. I know plenty of women and don't like them. Perhaps give up is a harsh word after all...
I'll just call it an extended hiatus. I don't want a slave or a yesman...just someone who is an individual who looks kind of like what I enjoy and wont try to change my lifestyle.
...an enabler. That's what I want. An enabler. Preferably with her own job and her own money. Education a big plus. No bad history behind her or multiple "life" experiences. Not too loud, doesn't nag, but gives helpful reminders. Isn't all in my face about everything. Doesn't give in to peer pressure. and the most important of all...no creeps or prozac queens.
I also hate trendiness. I was watching this movie on IFC called Thirteen about this young girl who does stupid shit and causes all kinds of trouble for herself and her family by being an asshole..a thieving, whoring asshole. I don't like or want that.
Mousiness is ok to a point. And not too much physical contact. No tongue kissing. No kinkiness. No multiple piercings. No overly liberal politics. And she must have a hobby. I don't care, but a hobby of some kind. Medical knowledge or professional medical training a plus. Extra points if a Head nurse. Doctors are high precedence. Trauma Surgeons automatically win out over competition. Black hair, semi-flat chest, pale skin, superficial goth style, and nihilism preferred. Blondes and redheads need not apply. No Koreans either. Mainland Chinese negotiable.(MUST PROVE NONAFFILIATION WITH COMMUNIST PARTY). Japanese OK, but not preferred. Okinawans need not apply. Religion is negotiable provided that it is of Judeochristian philosophy. Catholics, unitarians, and Jehovah's Witnesses need not apply. Non smoker, non drinker preferred. Pets OK. I do not adhere to the Americans with Disabilities Act but will negotiate based on Disability and cause. I am non-union. Must agree to any and all contractual consents and joint unions. I reserve the right to alter and change criterion at will and with no advance notice.
I'm sleepy, forgive me if I ramble or leave trains of thought unfinished.
You say you want a waifish goth type who's also demure(and presumably doesn't cut herself). Your best chance of finding one is to sift through as many as possible. The easiest way to do this is to find them where they gather in groups, like goth/fetish nightclubs, vampire roleplays, and Denny's. The only way you're going to get into these places is by dressing the part. Therefore if you really want this, you're going to have to become the thing you're looking for.
You want someone bleak? Hang around the existentialism books in your library.
You need to honestly ask yourself why you want such a specific type of woman. What is it about you that makes that type more desirable?
Or give it another two to four weeks and see if your tastes change again.
>>13
Thank you for the post.
I should have mentioned, no cutters. I don't dress goth, but rather casual in my off time. Actually my tastes won't change on this issue. That last thread was just me kind of fantasizing about being commandeered by a mean woman, but I really like waifs. Only I don't want to control them, I want to trust them. And I said SUPERFICIAL goth style RPers, Nightclubbers, and anyone who eats at Denny's is a nonstarter.
Oh yeah and nobody under 19 or over 30...
I could understand a loss of interest in the opposite sex. It becomes boring after a while with the same types of people and nobody who particularly stands out. Being constantly let down gets really tired. From across the room they were perfect, but after they speak...their beauty quickly withers away.
Of course once you take a break and stop caring, someone will take you by surprise.
I am not man, but you are welcome.
The thing is, when you find the ideal person that you have always wanted they turn out to be either a disappointment or a bore. A disappointment because you learn that maybe that was not what you wanted and a bore because there is nothing to really uncover.
Shenanigans, no girls on the internet. If you really, really are a girl: Carry on.
Actually, I've been thinking this out. I want my ideal girl, but I also want another girlfriend on the side who is a little mean.
Do you guys think it could work? I mean, would it be cool to have two girlfriends. It wouldn't be a secret. I'm sure they'd be cool with it if I explained that I like different personalities. It wouldn't be sexual or kinky. It's just that you know, I'm really indecisive and I want my ideal girl to have. You know, to keep in good condition and have for collectibility. Then I want to have ANOTHER girlfriend to do other stuff with. The mean bitchy one to go other places with. It's ok if the secondary girlfriend has strawberry blond hair, though.
Does that sound too unreasonable? I can probably make it happen, but would it be wise?
To extrapolate further. The primary girlfriend/possible life partner would be one who would be well taken care of. I guess a Trophy Wife or something. No mouth kissing, not too much sex(i'm not very sexual anyways), and would be the legitimate face of the relationship. Whereas like my other girlfriend would be one where I could mouth kiss(I don't normally like it), have frequent sex with, do things with...you know..work girlfriend I guess you could say.
Like....The primary girl would be like an AR-15 and the secondary girl would be like an AK-47. The primary one is the one I baby, but is overall of better quality. Where the other one is one where I can get dirty, drop it in the mud and it still keeps on plugging away.
Am I going about this the wrong way?
Why not find a woman who can be both types of women? A Woman of better quality but can still get dirty. A woman who can be whatever you want her to be. There are woman who need men to shape them into something because they are so eager to be the perfect girlfriend.
Hmm...I never thought of it like that. I think that this is probably the best solution.
She's still got to have a job and her own money though.
To the guy who started this thread and wasted his time typing out his fantasies, WAKE UP AND LIFE IN THE REAL WORLD. Seriously, why do you think a nobody like you would be desirable by a woman like in your fantasy?
>>23
Thank you for your post.
It's because I'm bored with everything...I didn't waste my time, I just put out a little manifesto there...just wearing the testes on the outside thank you very much. I live in the real world, and it is what it is.
I can honestly get most any woman that I want, but the woman that I want does not exist. I'm sick of smelling women who reek of mall perfume, who want me to go out to restaurants and to social gatherings. I'm tired of meeting the parents of paying some woman's way only for shallow, shrill dependance and the only thing beyond that is sex. No. I'm better than that. I say this without Ego. I'm probably the most eligible male walking the planet now. The only thing that eludes me is vast wealth, but too much wealth is not good. A wandering, lamentable soul. I am trying, kind sir, trying with all my effort for the week to figure out a way out of my boredom. There are only so many fucking social gatherings I can go to. There's only so much I can tolerate.
Perhaps I'm not looking so much for a person...but an object. What I am is an abstraction looking for a constant. Perhaps the only person I'm truly capable of loving is myself.
The last woman I had was a flirty little blonde. She caught my attention because that week I was into blondes. I've always loved Hotaru....but, I'm a slave to my whims at times.
Three weeks I spent with this woman and I realized. I didn't like her. It was just a momentary lark. She thought I might be her new boyfriend boyfriend. The fool. When I told her that she bored me and that I can do better. She started having a tantrum and said that she knows all the same people as me. I told her, you can have all those people. They are beneath me too.
Everything is beneath me. Like I say, you'd almost think I were Swiss.
I'm looking for something that interests me. Something to keep. The grail. Something that I won't get tired of.
The real world? What is the real world to you? Going to work, chasing the dollars, having friends and associates? Doing what the world wants you to do, like a sheep?
The real world. Feh, that's no fun. I rather like my own reality, at least I don't bore myself. It seems like sometimes the best sex I ever have is with myself.
....I know I am a narcissist. People more qualified than you have called me that. I just wish I could find someone just as good as me.
That person probably will never exist.
Aw, he's so cute. He thinks he's better than everyone else. Like that other post said, wake up and live in reality. You will NOT be meeting a woman who lives up to your EXACT expectations. Get over yourself.
But, if this woman DID exist (which I don't believe she does; your expectations are way too high, er...specific), what makes you think she'll like you? Especially the way you're acting right now. Just because YOU think that you're the most amazing person to walk the planet earth doesn't mean she'll feel the same way. Hell, she might just find you and your arrogance annoying. So, maybe it is best that you give up.
But girls secretly want security and with his degree of confidence what makes you think she wouldn't like him?
Yes I'm sure girls who are stupid enough to mistake arrogance for confidence is the best he could ever hope for.
I thought Ullrich had given up on women like before he turn 16... corruption and lack of perfection were reasons I think
If you're happy with yourself, I don't see why you need a significant other. If you're not happy with yourself, looking for happiness in a significant other will only end in failure.
>>30 because until you've had a few serious relationships, you have no right to know if your happines with yourself exceeds the possible spoils of having a partner.
I mean, like, dûh!! \(@_@\)
But if >>29 is right, and those happy with themselves don't need relationships, and those not happy with themselves don't deserve relationships, then why would a person have any incentive whatsoever to even begin working on those "few serious relationships"? Unless you're implying that there's a third category of people that >>29 neglected to define.
>>1, there are limits dude, stop being idealistic. Maybe you'll find your match in the most unexpected way someday.
ps. I was initially expecting this to be a "coming-out-of-the-closet" thread.
Don't give up yet. How about "training a woman from childhood"? Hrrrhrrhrr! Arrange to marry someone else's daughter (of course she's gotta be young, after all, it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks), train her to be your ideal girl and when the right time comes. BAM! Young and ideal bride, fresssssh! Nyahahahahaha!
No actually I resolved this not too terribly long ago by getting a Hotaru Realdoll.
Become an asexual doctor because without sex on your mind you can accomplish quintuple bypass surgeries while browsing /b/ and writing a game of Monopoly in brainfuck. AND blowing cigarette smoke into nurses faces.