I've been waiting.... (779)

1 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-08 06:46 ID:rBmL8F/W

I'm usualy just a lurker around the board, but today i have a story... recently i been posting about long distance relationship because I really like this girl that lives in japan. but i live in australia so its really hard if i want to confess to her.. well this is how it all started...

Around 2005 April, i was picked on by some people at school because of my hobby, which is movie making. I'm really like a movie otaku, i love watching movies thats why my dream is to become a film director. most of the girls i knew, i told them about my hobby and they would all ne like "isn't that like really immature??" and later on wont ever talk to me.. it was around November when i was on a japanese pen pal website where i met the japanese girl, her name was Aya. we started emailing each other talking about school and life style ect. then i asked her if she used skype and she said she uses it so we added each other. we started talking in skype, (to those who doesn't know its like msn but you use microphone to talk). for the first time, i told her i'm into film making... she unlike the other girls was actualy intrested in it.. she asked me when can i show her my movie.

we talked almost everyday, mostly for 2 hours and we can always talk about anything like movies, anime, school, music ect.. then one night... we talked for 6 hours! i only had 2 hour sleep because i had to wake up for tennis lessons >"< we got more close after that. for christmas i bought her a bracelet and air mailed it to her, she liked it alot. one day i got her email but was really surprised... usualy at the end of the email she would just write "from Aya" but this time she wrote "Love from Aya". i had this feeling when i saw it. after that, i didn't hear from her for 2 weeks and then one night i got her email asking when can i talk to her... but after that... I've waited for a month and stil counting on... I emailed her before saying i have something to tell her because i planned to confess to her next time we talk.. but now i dont think i can do it because i reckon its highly likely i may get rejected since we are so far away _| ̄|○" the feeling with this girl is different from all the other girls i liked. should i confess or not??

2 Name: Jstars : 2006-03-08 07:04 ID:OZIyYOaI

First thing I can offer you is this:

"Love" when on a signature tends to mean NOTHING.

If you're knew to getting along with girls, I understand, you see that word and your heart jumps. I've misinterpreted this sign before, which is why I offer my advice as a caution.

You've only given us a overview of the information, so it's hard to say if you should confess or not.

Again, speaking from personal expereience, I once confessed to a girl that I knew primarily over the internet that I had feelings for her. At first she played along thinking I was flirting, but once she realized I was serious, she shot me down hard.

I really don't want to make you feel anymore nervous about this than you already do, but you did ask for advice so I'm offering what I can.

I'd gauge the situation best I can to find out if she has feelings for you if you don't want to set yourself up for a fall. You need more to go on than a "Love..." in an e-mail.

In conclusion though, as lame as it sounds, you really just need to listen to your gut on this. You need to ask yourself two things 1) Do you really love her? Or is this infatuation with someone that's offered you kindness? and 2) If you knew that she didn't love you back, would you still have feelings for her? If you can love her without need for reciprication, then by all means confess.

Sorry for the rambling reply, I hope that some of this will be of help to you.

Good luck!

3 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-08 07:15 ID:rBmL8F/W

Thank you so much for the advice..
i really think i am falling for her... even if i may get rejected i think i will still like her, the main reason why i like her so much is because out of all the girls i know, she didn't make fun of me because i was into movie making and other stuff. I just wish i was in the same country as her, i waited so long for a reply and dont know how long i can keep waiting_| ̄|○" but if told her everything how i feel... would that work?? also it was both for me and girl too talk to someone that long the first time... would that mean anything?

_| ̄|○" I feel so hopeless!! >"<

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 19:17 ID:q4CJFSkI

Dude...that little _| ̄|○" man is cool. Hmm..

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BUT SERIOUSLY, A lot of people thought I was crazy too because I was into blond girls for a weak, then mean girls, then when I said I REALLY only liked girls like Hotaru and gave up on women because they were boring that people gave me a hard time too. I really, REALLY like Hotaru but not like goth goth girls who have piercings and play live action role play and lame stuff like that. ANYWAYS BACK TO YOUR PROBLEM

Dude you live in another country. Even from Australia it is expensive to go to Japan. Second this is just some girl you talked to on line. She might be a real bitch in real life. Liking movies and talking nice is one thing, but man, she could have been a REAL BITCH. And you would have hated it. Plus she may have just been using you for English practice and got bored with it. I'm sure it sucks and hurts, but it'll be ok, man. I'm sure there are plenty of other girls in Australia who like movies too. Hell, that could be your thing, ask them if they will be in your movies. Girls are vain and like attention like that.

PS. Is it true you can get Steyr AUGs in Australia? Do you have one? Chicks dig Steyr AUGs.

PPS I was serious. I hope it works out, try New Zealand if all else fails

PPS. Really, chicks dig Steyr AUGs. If you can get one in australia(A REAL Steyr AUG, not airsoft) then chicks WILL dig it.

GOOD LUCK

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 21:27 ID:rS52bVBZ

indeed... the "love from" might not mean anything...

6 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-09 06:23 ID:VCcxum+s

hhmm i'm not sure but she doesn't sound like a "real bitch". i know the "love from" properly doesn't mean anything~"~ since alot of girls nower days use that _| ̄|○"

btw whats Steyr AUGs?? i've never heard of it ~"~

still waiting for that reply............. ahh i dont think i can wait any longer!! >"<

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-09 06:43 ID:rS52bVBZ

becareful not to set yourself up for a major letdown.

8 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-09 08:53 ID:VCcxum+s

hhmm should i be prepared to be show down?? if i get shot down i think i would be hit pretty hard _| ̄|○" it seems that shes stuck in my head where ever i go.... maybe i should just give up~"~

9 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-09 13:05 ID:6yMSi2He

so what was the last time you talked to her now?
also a steyer aug is a rifle australian sas use.

10 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-09 15:58 ID:JY7pZ7JN

Yeah dude. I heard you can still get Steyr AUGs in Australia. Man they rule.

and another helpful hint. A Real bitch doesn't let her bitchness show until it is too late.

Besides...it's just a girl. There are plenty of fish in the sea. But seriously, a Steyr AUG will help you score.

11 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-10 07:25 ID:42XejFb+

why would a rifle help me score?? i dont really get it~~"

12 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-10 08:29 ID:42XejFb+

well I havn't met a REAL bitch in my life before... maybe just one i think.. but she really doesn't seem to be like it, i just cant imagine her like that ~"~

13 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-10 11:16 ID:42XejFb+

>>10 hmm the last time we talked was last year.. but everytime we talk now we always talk for 5-6 hours... she says she wants to try 7 hours next time we talk.

14 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-10 16:15 ID:urzB6jZQ

>>11

Because CHICKS DIG STEYR AUGs.

15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-10 16:27 ID:42XejFb+

Eiga Otoko! i beleive you can do it!
althought i dont know why CHICKS DIG STEYR AUGs can help you score. anyway.. movie man (eiga otoko) if you really love her that much, i thin you should all by means confess to her. even if you do get rejected its not like its the end of the world and there are heaps of other girls waiting for ya! good luck for everything! hope next time you talk to her you have enough courage to tell her how you feel!

16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-10 18:52 ID:LSEI9wh6

>>15
I disagree. What's with this confessing love bull crap. Unless the guy plans on going to Japan, paying all kinds of crazy money, and has a chance at actually entering the most holy of holies, then I say he takes up chasing skirt on his home turf. I mean, if he's still talking to the girl he could say "Hey man, I think you're cute. if you come to australia lemme hook up with you."

Otherwise he should seriously invest in buying a Steyr AUG. I KNOW you can buy them in Australia because I know a guy there and he has an AUG-Z with rails and scopes and shit. It's black too and hella cool. He gets all kinds of girls. Plus he has a Ford Falcon, fire engine red.

Benson, I don't know you but you are like the brother I never wanted. Do you really want to pine over some girl you'll never meet or do you want to score? Seriously, if all else fails go to New Zealand. I hear women over there are just crazy for Australianese.

What could it hurt?

17 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-11 00:02 ID:Heaven

Hate to do this, but...
>>11-13
>>15
Same person.

18 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-11 01:42 ID:42XejFb+

btw everyone... although i live in australia but i'm actualy chinese ~"~ i dont know why >>17 would think >>15 is me >"< however after reading your posts... I decided to try and forget this girl. >>16 does have a point, am i really planning go to and spend that money just to see her?? i mean even if she does accept it what next?? we cant even see each other but only hear voices. unless she has a webcam but still you still cant do much. maybe i will just remain good friends with her...._| ̄|○" But Thanks everyone for listning to my story, appreciate it! prehaps i will met someone same as her in australia one day!

19 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-11 01:56 ID:TX+TR6w1

>>18

Yeah dude, that's probably the best way to go. And hey, I didn't know you were chinese, but you're still cool in my book. There are plenty of young lasses traipsing around Australia, some of them even blond.

And hey, use that money you were GOING to spend to go to Japan and get yourself that Steyr AUG!

20 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-11 06:09 ID:42XejFb+

hahaha i noticed people didn't know i was chinese lol but stil thanks very much for the advice! maybe i will go look for that SteyR AUG lol! xD

21 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-12 04:09 ID:Heaven

>>18
That's because the IDs in >>11-13,15,18,20 are all 42XejFb+
Next time you're doing JISAKU JIEN in the dark of night, be sure to sage your post.

22 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-12 14:36 ID:42XejFb+

ahh apparently i just asked this girl out cos shes going to return some stuff she borrowed from me and i plan to take her to see fireworks on night, any suggestions wat i should do?!

btw i think >>15 might be a friend cos my friend was on my computer and he properly read the whole post >"<

23 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-13 04:06 ID:42XejFb+

eehh can soemone please help!! the girl messaged me back and asked "where do you want to go? what are we gonna do?" any suggestions what i should say?!! >"<

24 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-13 04:34 ID:RY1fq4Ih

If this is the Japanese girl that you are getting over you tell her to go blow dirt. You're treating yourself to a Steyr AUG and don't need her mucking it all up.

If this is a new girl, Take her to an Italian restaurant(CLASSY restaurant). And then take her for ice cream afterward.

Trust me.

25 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-13 05:22 ID:42XejFb+

yeah this is a new girl!~ oh i see thanks!! i see what i can do! ^^ hope it works!

26 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-13 05:49 ID:RY1fq4Ih

Now Benson...don't screw this up. I forgot to mention in >>24 some things.

Ok first of all, dress up a little bit. Not like you are going to a funeral but some slacks and a collar shirt(MAYBE a tie...depends) Whatever, just try to look kempt and presentable.

When you get to the place, pull her seat for her. AVOID SMALL TALK. Just enjoy the moment. Comment on the food, the atmosphere. BE HONEST AND GENUINE. Do not bullshit this girl, benson. If there is a moment of silence. GO WITH IT. If she wants to say something, she'll say it. EYE CONTACT IS IMPORTANT. Smile too. Nothing too toothy or fake.

If you are of age, order some wine. GOOD WINE. Like I said this should be a Classy Italian restaurant. Normally I don't like Italians or Italian food, but it is a good date food. It's rich, filling, and there is variety. Also, BE NICE TO THE WAITER. I don't care if he's so fruity his last name is Grape. BE NICE TO HIM. Women pick up on that. It's like if you are all nice to her, but an ass to someone else she'll think you are fake.(Hopefully you're a nice enough chap anyways..but still)
Also, Order for her. That's right ORDER FOR HER. Here is the classy way to do it.

Ask her what she wants before the waiter comes. Then when it's time to order say "The lady here will have XXXXX" Smile while you do it. Then after dinner, take her for ice cream. GOOD ice cream. Trust me.

Whatever, man. I hope you use this as a guide. Don't talk to her like you are doing an interview. AVOID POLITICS. AVOID TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE YOU BOTH KNOW. AVOID SWEARING. DO GLANCE AT HER BOOBS AND THEN LOOK INTO HER EYES AND SMILE. COMPLIMENT HER ON HER SMELL BUT DON'T BE CREEPY. COMPLIMENT HER ON HER HAIR.

Also when you get done with the date. DO NOT EXPECT A KISS. Give her a hug. If she does kiss you it might be a peck on the cheek, but otherwise give her a hug. Don't touch her ass or anything.

Also, DO NOT SPEND MORE THAN 50 DOLLARS US ON HER. DON'T.

But otherwise, be yourself. Save talk of Steyr AUGs for the third or fourth date. Then(and you ARE getting one aren't you?) take her shooting. Tell her how cute she looks holding a Steyr AUG. Take pictures of her. Post them here.

YOU KNOW NOW WHAT YOU MUST DO, BENSON. DON'T SCREW IT UP!

27 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-13 07:31 ID:42XejFb+

wow! thanks alot! but i dont think shes intrested in a Steyr AUG lol! Thanks for all that ^^

28 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-13 13:00 ID:l0p9LSwf

>>26 is a recipe for her having an allergy attack because you ordered something she didn't know what it was and was deathly allergic to, resulting in her brother coming to kill you

you might want to get the Steyr AUG beforehand just in case

29 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-13 14:31 ID:42XejFb+

hmm apparently she suddenly offline when i was talking to her on msn today~"~ she cant go out on night so might go out during day though... properly just ask her out for lunch or a movie i think _| ̄|○" what do you guys think?

30 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-13 22:21 ID:vyM2EqU7

>>29

Movies are lame for first dates. She can see a damn movie on her own time.

Lunch is good, take her somewhere outdoorsy. Like a patio cafe or something.

>>28
doesn't know what he's talking about. Make sure she wants what she wants and THEN order for her. That way if she dies it is her own damn fault.

31 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-14 04:29 ID:42XejFb+

oohh okk! thanks for that ^^

32 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-15 12:22 ID:42XejFb+

it seems she hasn't replied me... maybe she got dissapointed that i didn't know where to go _| ̄|○" she was only planning to return something she borrowed from me so really wasn't that big, but thanks alot for all that! maybe i can use it in the future ^^

I still cant get the jap girl out of my head, and stil waiting...._| ̄|○"

33 Name: PSO addict : 2006-03-15 13:04 ID:3Njz0cMN

Still no news from her?

34 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-15 14:40 ID:pBFUvEb4

does the jap girl know ur chinese XD

35 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-16 00:46 ID:42XejFb+

yeah she knows I'm chinese, I am so hopeless when it comes to girls _| ̄|○"

36 Name: Aquilo : 2006-03-16 04:57 ID:P+YVktyY

Hey I was lurking around and cool I see you hey sup just came from the Densha Otoko thread eh? everyone ditched me there =P

37 Name: Aquilo : 2006-03-16 05:12 ID:P+YVktyY

wow sorry for double posting but I can't help but feel that this is like mini densha otoko remake XD

go you w00t XD but ya sigh I know how life can be a well you know...

(sorry for adding this in here where it doesn't belong but ya... hope you don't mind benson hehe ya internet love don' trust it, 9 out of 10 times it doesn't work out even if it does, the chance of seeing the person is slim as for the current one you are going for ya like what the other dude said don't spend too much or she might just start milking you, you can spend more later on but don't start heavily spending from start basically work your way up.)

lol just like Densha_| ̄|○

38 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-16 08:35 ID:42XejFb+

hahaha, good to see you here xD>>36 well when i talk to her, i only spend the night talking cos its the only time we can talk. theres so many densha alike in this thead, maybe this is what this thead does lol, stil waiting..._| ̄|○

39 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-16 10:32 ID:vqH/qQQb

>>38

Benson, you are doing it wrong. Stop fooling around and buy that Steyr AUG

40 Name: Aquilo : 2006-03-16 14:35 ID:P+YVktyY

Hmmm Gun Otaku trying to date online girl wee for guitar otoko remix XD

(btw what do you type to get the ">>38" in blue font thing

well.... I guess it depends on what you are looking for I used to online date someone before.
I met that person off RO(Ragnarok Online XD) it was pretty
good for a year, since at that time I was too busy to actually
go out and stuff. The online relationship allowed me to get
the comfort and company I needed without going to too much
trouble. But the thing was I found out she lived 9 blocks from
where I am (ya its a small world sometimes) anyhow we met at a
dance after and it turned out okish but then her dad stepped
in... but bah why am I ranting... back to you^^.

Basically I guess its what you are looking for in the end.
If you are looking for a long steady relationship with cuddles
and what not, then online is probably not the way to go.
Because its really hard to meet someone offline,

and Benson cheer up I'm chinese too^^ not all hope is lost XD

(got search Yellow Fever on youtube.com
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIoc8R26iM) It has a point in the end watch it.

=P

41 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 00:28 ID:33tUmvAX

>>40

W T F?! Did...did you just call me an "otaku", boy?
I don't normally help chinese people(there are only two that I actually do like..and yes I have known more chinese than I care to)

I'm sitting here...trying to give good advice.

Getting a Steyr AUG is the BEST POSSIBLE ADVICE I can give this man. He's not getting laid because HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

You know what...I'll be damned if I help any of you again.....

gun otaku......the nerve.

42 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 02:52 ID:Heaven

>>41
best poster on /love/

43 Name: Aquilo : 2006-03-17 05:18 ID:Lh/DABy4

>> 41

Oooh noooooo I didn't meant you, I meant benson I was refering to a japanese tv show called densha otoko that we both watched before

Sorry for the miscommunication, and if you took it that offensively

My apologizes.
(to be honest though Steyr AUG is good that gun is underrated in even in CS XD and I know alot of SAS used that gun a lot)

44 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-17 10:53 ID:42XejFb+

waah!!~~ whats going on?! we're fighting because >>40 called >>41 gun otoko?!??! Sorry that this happened!! ~~" thier was a misunderstanding! Aquilo was refering to me _| ̄|○

anyway lol for the Gun Otoko! i thought i would be called movie Otoko xD

45 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 12:04 ID:3tR/In9f

Sending my wish
Everyone on this thread will recieve joy and happiness

46 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-17 13:50 ID:42XejFb+

wow Thanks!!^^ u too!

47 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 14:47 ID:xeEAxLG0

>>45

posting in this thread because I need joy and happiness ^^

47GET

48 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-17 15:56 ID:42XejFb+

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49 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 16:07 ID:0DkaFNuS

I'm personally really pissed that he just forgot about the japanese girl like that. Money is only a way to realize our dreams. One thing thats important is a feeling. If you just want to fuck, then you can wank or something. But rejecting something that might have been a real feeling is a bad decision (in my opinion). She never acted like a bitch. I had a few girls in my life and I can tell you one thing. It's really damn hard to find one that will understand you completly. If you'll find the one that you can talk with for the whole night, it might be the love of your life. Someday you'll be old. Your wife will be old too. She won't be as cute as in the past, but you'll still enjoy your life together because you'll be like two parts of the same apple. I would never fuck a girl that would fell for my Rifle. This kind of girls is so called FANTA (Fuck And Never Touch Again). So if you're still reading this thread, just reconsider all this matter. If you'll still think about being with the jap girl as of "I'll be wasting loads of cash to visit her", then just forget about her cuz you're not worth her. Thats what I had to say.

If it comes to "Love" in the sig. it really means nothing. I have a pen pal friend from Japan and she always finishes her mails with Love Yuko. If your friend just started this habbit it may mean that she just starts to feel something. Why the hell all the guys tries to rush it and confess ASAP? Just enjoy the feeling you have, keep it going and maybe one day you won't even have to say it. Just wait for a good moment and when it comes you won't need advice from 4-ch and you'll just tell her what you feel.

PS. It's your life, just do what you want.

50 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-18 01:54 ID:42XejFb+

well i'm not the kind of guy who just wants to F*** girls, from the previouse post some people been saying "whats the point of having long distance!" i understand what you mean when you said its damn hard to find one that wiil understand you becasue from the girls i have met, she really is different. actuali i never thought it was a waste of money to visit her! i had a thought of doing it one day cos firstly, i can see her, secondly, i want to visit differeny places and thirdly, i really want to go to japan again cos i been there once and i really want to see the cherry blossoms ^^

Personaly i really appreciate everyone on this thread, willing to read my story and help out. some people properly think I'm just an Otaku and hopeless at everything _| ̄|○ although i dont know anyone here but truly... thank you! I appreciate everyone trying to help me.

well so far I still havn't heard from her yet, but i beleive within 3 weeks i would hear from her soon! I'm gonna wait for another 2-3 months till she replies. Maybe i will write her a letter! I think >>49 is right, i should just wait for a good moment then tell her how i feel, maybe i been rushing things again >"< Well I'll report when something happens and let you guys know!

51 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-20 16:16 ID:jIDos+i7

Everything too me now seems like i just woke up from a dream and back to my lonley anonymouse life.... 1 month waiting felt like 5 months ~~" is it true that if you truely like someone, time seems to be slower without them but is faster when your with them?

52 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-20 18:52 ID:0DkaFNuS

yup. It's just the same like when you're having a good fun or you're bored. And it's the same like waiting for the X-mas presents. Have you tried to contact her?

53 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-21 01:15 ID:jIDos+i7

well i did email her once and been waiting ever since!~ somehow i keep thinking the reply will be here soon, maybe i just need to keep waiting.

54 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-25 14:11 ID:dwZcTWal

hey everyone i need SERIOUS help! apparently i found out this girl likes me but i dont like her. shes a family friend and we only got to know each other this year for a bout 2 months. me and her friend pretended that her friend asked me to be her bf and she took it soo serious and i heard she couldn't sleep at all, me and the friend told her today and she got pretty upset i think. well the problem is (this is what i plan) she knows who i like which is the jap girl "aya" and knows the i been waiting for about 2 months now. I'm going to pretend that i talked to the jap girl and confessed and that she liked me also so that shes my gf. if i do that she will give up but i feel so bad doing that >"< any suggestsion anyone???

55 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-25 14:50 ID:Heaven

so first you want a girlfriend but she doesn't want you, then some other girl is into you but you don't want a piece of that?

56 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-25 17:29 ID:Heaven

>>54
um... don't like, lol
You will get fucked and then NO girl will want you

57 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-25 21:57 ID:Heaven

>>54
for starters, stop writing like that

58 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-25 23:24 ID:Heaven

>>1

>I'm usualy just a lurker around the board

you're in every damn thread i read, benson_2009.

nominating "benson_200n" as the new anonymous name, where n is some number.

59 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-26 02:08 ID:dwZcTWal

>>55 nono your getting the wrong idea, i havn't got the chance to say anything to the girl i like, this girl who is onto me is a family friend and i feel weird dating a family friend and i dont want to just reject them in thier face so i came up with that idea. sorry if i sound like a total rejector but me and that girl have nothing in common. i dont think you can force your self to like someone you dont like. shes also realy stuck on me as well like 24/7 on me ~"~ thats why i asked for suggestions cos i dont want to make someone feel bad, i only want to stay good friends and since the days where i might confess to the jap girl might be close.


>>58 lol so true, i post almost everywhere now xD

60 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-26 03:10 ID:JctgS28r

>>59 My suggestion? Don't lie to this girl, tell her the truth so she can move on with her life. Nobody said you have to force yourself to like her. Show some decency by telling her gently that you're not interested in her, or her friend for that matter, and that you're interested in someone else right now. Also, pretending to get asked out by her friend is just low, shame on you both.

Trust me, you'll only make things worse by lying to her.

61 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-03-26 04:23 ID:dwZcTWal

hmm thats true, its bad to play with peoples feelings... i should know better >"< your right i should just tell her the truth.... lying only makes this worse, thanks for that! ^^

62 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-03 09:16 ID:y1XAFqoo

has she replied you yet?

63 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-03 09:25 ID:y1XAFqoo

sorry to doulble post but...>>56 you sound like a flamer in most of the theads. lol not very supportive

64 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-03 17:22 ID:ep9+YXSr

ya... ID:Heaven from the Flim & TV Densha Otoko thread lol XD

65 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-04 11:38 ID:Heaven

ID:Heaven is what you get when you sage the thread; it's not the same person every time.

66 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-04-08 14:21 ID:3Fs5iUzM

I find it really hard to talk to girls now, since i cant really use the internet much nower days and stil waiting for the reply... i begin to think how am i gonna find relationship, somehow my intrest on girls is lost ~"~ i somehow think it has to do with my past since i been tricked a few times...

67 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-08 14:51 ID:y0m54/2o

i think you should just stop worring about it.
seams like its taking a lot out of you.
dont worry eventualy everyone finds their someone,
you just have to accept that this girl might not be that person.

68 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-04-15 15:36 ID:i1Yox1kg

After waiting for 3 months, i dont think i can wait any longer. I'm thinking of moving on with my life, theres realy no point waiting here all day. i dont blame her or anything its just that i cant wait anymore. day by day my feeling just start to loose and eventualy all that feelings are lost now. what do you think i should do now?_| ̄|○

69 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-15 18:19 ID:9HlwqNDT

move on, find someone new.

70 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-16 04:51 ID:WKzyMk+o

move on, you should have done that ages ago instead of waiting.

71 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-04-16 12:18 ID:i1Yox1kg

hmm i'll try moving on, waiting here really doesn't help at all. thanks for that!

72 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-17 23:42 ID:3+ytaV6/

Hi Benson I just read what you said and I found it interesting. However, I don't think you should give up on this Japanese girl if you like her so much. Have you tried sending her another message? Maybe the one you sent her forever ago never got to her? By the way how did you just lose contact with her? Does she not get on skype anymore?

Wishing you the best of luck eiga otoko!

73 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-18 00:24 ID:T8gNjySn

benson...dont listen to >>72. Move on, don't wait, just move on.

74 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-18 01:03 ID:3+ytaV6/

>>73
I'm not saying he should just wait I'm just curious more about the situation.

75 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-18 03:12 ID:QDfGAM3f

>>74
if you curious about the situation, read the thread, it should be enough.

76 Name: GeNe : 2006-04-18 08:53 ID:O5P/kHY6

I mean Come on, I believe 72 is right! If you really like her...did you did anything to get her attention besides waiting for her? Maybe her com crash or something bad happen? No one knows...Until the day you know the reason why she just left not contacting you, you shouldn't be thinking that she out there to play you. If she is, i dont think anyone would be that stupid to spend hours talking to you or something like that.I understand that long distance relationship is definately hard to maintain so ...just for backup..if you really feel that you cant handle such a relation..i suggest you be practical and not get yourself a long-distance relationship

77 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-18 16:32 ID:/7itPf9G

>>76

you are asking if benson didnt do enough to get her attention, but what about her not doing enough to keep contact? i mean, if she truly cared about him, even remotely, you would think that she would find someone to write him even a simple email. you are saying he didnt do enough, im saying she didnt do enough and isnt worth it, so he should just move on.

78 Name: GeNe : 2006-04-19 05:36 ID:O5P/kHY6

which is why i say if he cant think positive on a long-distance relationship just give up and find something more realistic. But if lets just say that the girl did really get caught up with something or maybe couldnt find a way to get to him? there are lots of possibilities that he has to lay out depending on whether if he's willing or not.

79 Name: 77 : 2006-04-19 16:55 ID:YT7pxCTQ

its true she has a life and she probably got caught up, but honestly, a email doesnt shouldnt take more than an hour to write just saying "im going to be busy for awhile" and there is always a way to get to a person. always, especially in today's society.

80 Name: Non Person : 2006-04-20 12:10 ID:XFW7+iI8

nothing to see here, move along.....

81 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-21 01:50 ID:Heaven

sage for a nihilist complaining.

82 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-21 01:51 ID:Heaven

oops, wrong thread, har har.

83 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-04-22 14:24 ID:qDvNkqY2

hey everyone! sorry i havn't been on for a while..... well i did send a letter to her 4 weeks ago since she didn't reply on email. its true... i've only waited and didn't take any action, cos i thought if i kept on sending emails she would properly get annoyed. i really thought alot of possibilties like she was too busy with work or something must have happened because it really doesn't seem like her to just suddenly dissappear like that, there must be a reason and she isn't a type of person who would not contact you all of a sudden. i mean why would she talk to me for 6 hours if she was just using me or playing around?? well wat do u guys suggest me to do?? i moved on a bit and she kinda disappeared in my mind for a while. my friends keep saying "give up, she wont ever reply" but somehow i just think that she will reply, or that we will somehow contact each other. its almsot 4 months now... what should i do??

-Eiga Otoko

84 Name: doc_luv : 2006-04-22 19:29 ID:fDFGzGPM

hello there benson.i have almost the same experience with you.having an online relationship and living long distance.but what seperate us is that i was really glad that i got to meet her in person when i got back home(i'm studying oversea and she's at my home country).we do spend a lot of time e-mailing and talking to each other and even it cost me a lot that time it just don't matter(we can't use skype).it's true that i also did confess to her on the phone,it's really take courage.as for you benson,it's unlucky that you didn't have chance to confess to her.i was thinking that maybe she has waited for you to confess long enough or maybe she just met someone in real life and they started dating.i know that the truth is painful,but there must be reason for her to left you just like that.there is no certainty in online relationship,the thing you need the most is trust.looking at your condition now,it's been really long since you last contacted her.there is possibly chance that she might contact you back,but if it is 4 months already,i think it's to long enough.all that i could say,move on benson-san,there is more waiting for good guy like you.yes,it's a miracle that she will contact you back.but waiting long enough for nothing is not really worth it!!

85 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-04-23 13:46 ID:qDvNkqY2

>>84 hmm i see, well i moved on a bit. I was going to confess to her but didn't expect this to happen, can you guys think of any possiblities that she didn't reply??

-電影男

86 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-24 01:56 ID:zH01DtIS

>>85 umm why cant u just move on and accept the fact that shes not going to reply. it doesnt matter why but if u so want to know then why dont u email her or something asking why. i still dont understand how u can have hope after 4 months. its pretty obvius what happened

87 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-26 21:14 ID:1jLv6+LF

That's the problem with you Chinese people; always so shy. Send another e-mail asking if she recieved the previous one, since you haven't gotten a reply yet. No girl should be annoyed by that (unless the girl in question is being a total bitch).

88 Name: doc_luv : 2006-04-27 05:52 ID:fDFGzGPM

yeah.to think why she didn't reply is not really a good idea..there's to many possibilities for the reason..and the best way to ask her again.move on a bit..don't put hope to much for things that unlikely to happen..i know it's painful..but this is life..

89 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-04-27 07:11 ID:Rcdhn9nh

well i did send another email but i doubt i wil get a reply. i moved on a bit and currently i'm going out with this girl this week lol, any suggestions of places i should take her?

-電影男

90 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-27 07:19 ID:1jLv6+LF

91 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-04-27 13:50 ID:Rcdhn9nh

oh yea I'll try that, i'll report back what happens! date is on this saturday at noon ^^

92 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-27 20:25 ID:T8gNjySn

benson, i would avoid anything fancy and just go for a causal date. since its at noon, a fancy date will not be appropriate. plus fancy dates will make her nervous, and thats bad. rule #1 about first dates: keep her comfortable. when she gets uncomfortable it will end bad for you. and to keep her comfortable you need to be comfortable/relax.

dress comfortable and respectable, slacks, nice shirt, nice shoes, shower, put deodorant on. make sure the car is clean if you are driving.

i would recommend getting some pizza at a nice, causal place. then afterwards take her out to play some mini-golf (depending on weather) or something else like that. this way you can relax, enjoy the weather and each other company, but most importantly both of you will have fun. talk to her, tease her a little and in pure jest like making fun of her swinging style or bet her that she will miss the putt. make sure you smile too when you tease her to show you are playing, make sure you dont come off as a giant asshole. after the game get some ice cream to cool off and take her home.

its important that you be yourself, dont act like she is a potential girlfriend and place her on a pedestal because she is a woman. treat her like a mate, a extremely cute mate, but a mate none the less.

i wish you luck with your date.

93 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-04-28 08:25 ID:Rcdhn9nh

thanks alot! i didn't have anything fancy in mind and i think what you say is the best. I'll report back tomorow and tell you guys what happens! ^^

-電影男

94 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-04-30 11:33 ID:Rcdhn9nh

well apparently, the girl couldn't come cos of family stuff happening. i mite ask her out again next time and hope that she can go! recently we been smsing and she keeps saying i'm cute and that i'm really nice and easy to talk to, does that mean anything?

-電影男

95 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-30 18:55 ID:T8gNjySn

i guess it means something. try again for another date, and if it falls through again because of her then forgot about her even if she says you are cute and nice; actions speak louder than words.

96 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-05-01 07:33 ID:Rcdhn9nh

ok i'll see what happens later! thanks for that!

-電影男

97 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-05-09 12:05 ID:Rcdhn9nh

BIG NEWS!!! I FINALY GOT A REPLY FROM THE JAPANESE GIRL!!! 4 months!! i cant beleive it! 4 months and now i finaly got a reply!!! this is wat she wrote:

Hey Benson,

How are you doing? I'm doing fine.

I'm so sorry about I didnt email you for a long time..I have been so busy.

I'll check your web site soon. :)

anyway I have to go now.

see ya,

Aya xx

hmm well not much replied but i knew she was really busy, i hope i dont need to wait for another 4 months now... wat do u guys think??

-電影男

98 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-09 13:54 ID:RakWJTW6

shit. well at least we know she is still breathing. how did that date go with the girl?

99 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-09 14:55 ID:9dLhd6kU

Just send her some nice e-mail...

100 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-09 15:40 ID:Heaven

100GET and for fucks sake please stop putting the 男 crap after your name already

101 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-09 16:03 ID:Heaven

>>100
Seconded

102 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-09 20:51 ID:VRhMLPi6

>>100
Thirded

103 Name: Jane : 2006-05-10 07:07 ID:DsnTGD7B

Ive been waiting, too
r2_jane@yahoo.co.jp

104 Name: RedMuppet : 2006-05-10 07:15 ID:BBkzIOOb

I definitely understand how hard it is when you've begun devoloping feelings for a friend like J. But the thing is, it sounds to me you two are on the same wavelengths. I think I'm with the rest of the guys and tell you to take hold of her!

105 Name: RedMuppet : 2006-05-10 07:27 ID:BBkzIOOb

Sorry, I mistyped this message (104) and meant for another thread. My apologies!

106 Name: RedMuppet : 2006-05-10 07:28 ID:BBkzIOOb

By the way Benson, 4 months is a REALLY long time... I'm not quite sure what's going on here. I just hope it works out in the end.

107 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-10 11:05 ID:Heaven

>>106
Maybe she found this board

108 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-05-10 12:37 ID:Rcdhn9nh

well i'm a tad confused at the moment cos the feeling i had with the japanese girl was lost for a while, i'm just afraid i'm gonna wait for another 4 months or something... i'll be surprised if she found this board, prob got freaked lol.

>>98 lol i said the girl didn't show up cos of family business or something.. didn't go well with her cos she doesn't talk much so i didn't bother. I sent a normal email to the jap girl yesterday so hopefully it wont take long for her to reply. btw how do you sage a post??

109 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-10 13:07 ID:Heaven

write "sage" in the link box. it adds your post to the thread without bumping the thread back to the top of the page.

110 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-05-11 07:33 ID:Heaven

ok cool!

111 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-05-22 18:07 ID:Heaven

I have no idea what's going on, but benson_2009, you're such a loser. Have phone sex with her already.

And when you meet her, go to a hotel and relieve your frustrations already. Read my other posts if u want advice.

112 Name: benson_2009 (電影男) : 2006-05-24 10:14 ID:mshMPbLa

sorry but i aint the kind of guy that just want sex, your in the wrong thread man

113 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-05-24 10:48 ID:Heaven

>>111
DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

114 Name: 72 : 2006-05-28 12:04 ID:l60UE9wK

Yo, Eiga Otoko, any updates/emails from the Japanese girl? I am in Tokyo right now you should have me go tell her to email you. Ahahaha.
Goodluck!

115 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-06-09 12:49 ID:efIVky9D

hahah she doesn't live in tokyo, she lives in hyogo i think. have fun in japan!

116 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-10 04:51 ID:ENi9ELXa

You never did take my advice and get that Steyr AUG, did you?

117 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-10 20:17 ID:l60UE9wK

>>116
You never did take my advice and chop off your penis, did you?

118 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-11 05:36 ID:hDLWN+nn

You never gave me that kind of advice.

Hey man, you can kiss my ass.

Benson is like a goddamned brother to me, man.

119 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-06-19 13:44 ID:yN/G39uI

hahaha i'll save up the money for it and you need a gun lincense to buy guns here. lol whats with the flaming?! well there wasn't much news about the jap girl so thats why i didn't come on much. at the moment i am thinking of emailing her to ask if she has any time to talk to me so i could maybe confess. even if its just a minute i really want to talk to her, i havn't got anything since the last email and been living my boring life like this waiting for something that i probably forgotten.

>>118 everyone here are like brothers to me, this has got to be one big event in my life to be honest, even though i dont know anyone here but you guys are the best! i love this message board.

120 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-19 18:39 ID:ZTlvbpE/

benson, as a your brah, i gotta say, you have patience. give the confession a shot, but i wouldnt expect a happy ending out of it (citing the lack of communication). but go ahead, she lives in japan, so i doubt it she would hunt you down with a stery aug for confessing.

121 Name: Chill-Anon : 2006-06-20 02:59 ID:uttoVbgg

Brother Benson, you are a very shy person, no?

122 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-06-20 13:09 ID:K9TfsBSd

hahaha yea i am a shy type person, i guess i'll give it another shot! wish me luck~!! thanks again!

123 Name: KIRA : 2006-06-21 19:21 ID:Sjsh7VtL

hiya, well im a n00b on this forum, but i was reading this topic, and its pretty interesting. but man, 4 months for a reply? something must be going on, unless like her comp blew up or never went online after that cuz thats a long time. Hope that u can have contact with this girl and able to get your confession out sometime soon. g/l man, i'll keep reading on about this =)

btw, what this penpal site u went to? im interested in talking to people arouund the world =)

124 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-06-24 02:36 ID:K9TfsBSd

hey everyone
i emailed the jap girl saying that i have something big i must tell her. i was thinking of showing the message board to her but i thought about it, would that scare the crap out of her?? to be honest i really dont know, i dont want to be obsesed with her and when i get shot down i'll prob go to mental mode going crazy and stuff. so right now, maybe she got scared of me but i didn't say anything to make it look like i like her or something. well i guess i can only WAIT again, seems like its always like that. lol everyone keeps saying i got alot of patience to wait 4 months xD

>>123 http://www.yorihuzi.net/1--8-1.html thats the website i met the jap girl.

125 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-24 21:48 ID:y/sK/8YS

what kind of a friend are you by still referring to her as 'the jap girl'? Do you even know 'jap' is offensive? Give her a name here, dammit. I'll leave the rest of your problem to the other guys here.

126 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-24 23:31 ID:Heaven

>>125
About as offensive as calling a british person a brit. Stop fagging up the thread with your stupid shit if you're not even going to help him. LOL IRONY

127 Name: Desperate otoko (no ko) : 2006-06-27 13:22 ID:r4v3x5rX

benson sounds like he's confusing a bit from Densha otoko into his own life... with the showing his JP girl this site and all...

128 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-06-27 14:35 ID:K9TfsBSd

>>125 hahahaha sorry i didn't know that, well her name is Aya.
yeah i know its similar in densha otoko when hermes finds out about the message board, but the reason why i want to show her the message board is to show how crazy i was waiting for 4 months. basicly my feelings about aya is all in here so if she read this she will know how i feel. i dont want to sounds weird or a looser but god i'm really confused atm, i thought that she might be scared of me but doesn't seem to be like that cos before i was waiting for 4 months, she asked "when can i talk to you?" on her email. it just doesn't make sense, maybe she really was so busy, i really dont know. i'm even more scared to confess now, maybe that would scare the creeps out of her.

to be honest, i havn't been this crazy about a girl, usualy i move on really easily but... for some reason, i can just keep waiting like this. she really is different from other girls i met and known. i really wish i can just hear her voice one more time... even if its for a minute. i know i really shouldn't be this crazy about a girl especially one that you cant even see and are miles away from you. maybe i really suck at these stuff, prob why i am still single. well i guess i just have to keep waiting... nothing else i can do really lol. i just hope i dont have to wait too long.

129 Name: Desperate otoko (no ko) : 2006-06-27 14:44 ID:r4v3x5rX

but you've only talked to her through internet right? Have you even meet once? If not, can you really say you really like her?

130 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-27 18:54 ID:rS52bVBZ

do you REALLY want her to read all those "stick it in her pooper"-like posts? I don't know if it'd be a good idea. I'm not sure how realistic Herme's reaction was in densha. goodness knows, she may not react so positively in the end.

131 Name: KIRA : 2006-06-27 19:01 ID:h4enrLtb

Itai!!!! ;D

anyways, i wouldnt show her this board, well at least not all the replies here. btw, are u ever able to see this girl? lets say u like each other, how r u going to ever see her? she lives like on the other side of the world, and long distance relationships are pretty hard to maintain.

but, if it will make u feel better, u should tell her, because its going to suck later if u dont and then have regret or like wonder about what would of happened if u ever did tell her. might as well get her reaction from her and dont have regret in the future. trust me, its the worst thing to have when u get older.

132 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-27 20:57 ID:6XFcmfN6

I think benson_2009 is trying too much to be like Densha Otoko. Why? He came from that thread, and clearly showed that he watched it. He tries to live a fairy tale by waiting 4 months from a girl in Japan when he lives in Australia. His heart seemingly fluttered when he got the word Love written in his email, and he doesn't understand the Japanese girls last message. 4 months without communication says 2 things: 1) You're not part of her life anymore, and 2) She has a boyfriend. By the way she responded, you can tell that she had something busy to do. Even for a Japanese girl, she should be able to get online if she was able to before. She gave you no clue on what she was doing, nor did she give you a clue on why she had to leave. You're obviously trying to get a GF because you chase two different girls, then when a girl likes you, you end up not liking her not because she was your family friend, but either 1) personality or 2) looks.

What I suggest is just act yourself. Stop trying to be and live something you aren't. I myself watched Densha Otoko, and it is in my opinion that you should do what he learned to do when he confessed: You live your life and move on.

Ja Ne.

133 Name: Demian : 2006-06-27 21:20 ID:y/sK/8YS

>>126 Various of my japanese friends found it offensive to be called japs. In my country its common knowledge that Jap is an insult, and used that way. Anyway, what bothered me is that he didn't have the manners to stop referring to her as sort of a third party.

If you want to flame, fine, but do it properly.

134 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-27 21:30 ID:L4uOc8aT

>>132

I agree. Benson, just move on with your life, stop thinking about the girl, and soon you'll realise that you only loved her based on your fantasy ideal image, not because of the person she actually is - a person you never got to meet or know in real life.

135 Name: Demian : 2006-06-27 21:57 ID:y/sK/8YS

Benson, I've been following this thread from the sidelines till now, but feel compelled to comment due to recent developments. In my opinion, it is a large mistake to show Aya this thread because it will send the wrong message.

When you are uncertain of something, there are two things you can do: 1) do nothing but hope for the best. 2) act and find out. Until now you've basically been at (1) and now you're trying to move to (2), but there are risks. This risk consists of the chance that she tells you in clear terms that she does not feel the way about you that you wanted her to. Other possibilities are that she clearly does like you a lot, or an unclear statement either way.

It is laudable that you want to act, and understandable that you waited a long time for this. After all you seem to sincerely like this girl and a rejection would definitely hurt you. However, the nature of her feelings towards you are already set. There is not much you can do to change these. All that matters is that you are clear about Aya's feelings for you.

So you want to elicit a response from her to get some clarity. At least you want to be sure that she doesn't break communications for 4 months yet again. Now you assume that when Aya reads this thread, she will understand how you think. I think she will understand that you are a dreamer. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't seem very appealing to a girl, I think (it's different than being in touch with your emotions, which they do dig). It also tells her that you are too lazy or scared to tell her in person (a letter in fact) that you enjoy her attention.

For that reason, and also that she might get suspicious that you set some of your posts up more as confessions than as contributions to the thread, I strongly recommend you not to show her this thread. Instead, I would in your case write to Aya that you enjoy her replies, and talking to her. It doesn't even have to be a letter with that theme, you could also write it as a side-note in some other correspondence as long as its clear you value her. This should not be harmful as long as it isn't done too cheesy. You could post a draft and we'll evaluate it for you.

cheers,
Demian

136 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-06-28 17:11 ID:K9TfsBSd

after reading the posts, i understand what you mean. its true that i am a big dreamer since i often day dream alot. honestly i really think she might have got a bf after reading what >>132 said. i understand why people say i am trying to live like densha otoko and part of it is true, i really am a big dreamer cos during that 4 months of waiting, i would just day dream about meeting aya and confessing. i 100% agree with >>135, if i show her the thead it really thinks i set all this up for a confession.

i really would like to move on and i dont think it should be too hard but there will be things that remind me of Aya. i did write her a letter saying how i really enjoyed talking to her and that it felt like a dream since i havn't talk to her for so long. maybe i should just make Aya a really good memory, but the biggest problem is its hard for me to socialize with girls that i know here. most think i'm a weirdo since i dream too much, some wont even bother talking or even say hi. to be honest i'm sort of like a otaku, instead of talking to people now i just watch tv, movies and anime. not that i'm trying to be like densha but thats what i really do nower days, i was so sick of being ignored by people that i didn't talk to anyone for a long time and being posting on this thread. its hard to beleive but thats what life is for me.

thats why i said this thread has been a big part of my life since i dont really socialize with people now. i dont think i would confess to Aya anymore but remain good friends, which i think is the best since i can move on and stay in touch with her. well realyl depends if i ever get a reply anymore but thanks guys for those great advice! really appreciate the help.

137 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-06-28 19:46 ID:9HlwqNDT

>>132 and >>135

I think you saved benson's life.

138 Name: Demian : 2006-06-28 22:40 ID:y/sK/8YS

Benson, unfortunately I can relate very well how much of a problem it is to be a dreamer. I too, I am trapped in a fog of silly lazy dreams which hold me from making real accomplishments in my life. By reading manga, watching anime, listening to music - the like, I waste most of my day. The worst part is that I realize my problem everyday, am guilty of perpetrating it every new day.

Its really hard to break out of the cocoon of the dreamer. Its walls are thick and fluffy, cozy and warm. To break out of it, I need real a goal stronger than a dream. But what star can perpetrate these walls? And once I escape, its so tempting to return. I wish I could have the inner guidance to steer towards an honourable goal.

There are certain girls which I like, but I know they won't choose to be around me since I hardly accomplish anything of meaning. There is only one way to alter this situation, which is to do real work and not to let myself get dragged down in the quicksand of lamenes. But is it sufficient? I don't know. In a world where any goal can be disputed for its worth, what goal can be pursued without faltering? I must find a solution soon, for can no longer be a child, have to take up responsibility for my own life.

I can conceive of girls liking me for what I am. The girls I like are not among them and I feel I have nothing to say to them, nothing that won't make me look like a loser to them. So I don't. I sense there is no point to approach the girls I like because I am not the guy I want to be. That person should be with them, not me.

Anyway Benson, we've got to live in reality, whatever that is, as much as we can. However great our dreams are, it involves only one person, us. And loneliness just isn't fun.

ps. I owe you an apology, because in post nr 1 you did actually introduce Aya.

139 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-07-01 07:09 ID:K9TfsBSd

>>138 i think i know what you mean, i'm about the same. everytime i like a girl, it seems i had to hide about my innder dreamer side from them and when i do that i feel unconfortable since i'm not use to it. but one of the problem is i use to be able to talk to these girls and can chat alot, but now i just cant seem to have a nice normal chat with them anymore, just completly speechless. its always the same like "hi hows ur day?, not bad u? pretty good" something like that.

well the good thing is i moved aya from my life now, actually i did that a long time ago but there are just things that remind me of her. well all i can think of is probably wait to meet another girl in the future or something otherwise i'll be stuck in this thread xD i dont really trust most girls i know here cos most of them were just using me, that was mostly in the past. seriously are you suppose to be nice to a girl or just act cool?? i mean i'm nice to all the girls i talk to but it seems it makes me look soft but then if you act cool it just makes you look like an idiot. prehaps i should stop focusing on relationships and focus on something else, maybe that would do better, what do you guys think?

140 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-01 08:06 ID:rS52bVBZ

i think that's a good idea benson

141 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-07-06 12:24 ID:DSd3Hx24

BIG NEWS AGAIN!!!! ANOTHER REPLY!!!! AND THIS TIME I AM TALKING TO AYA!!!!
Hey Benson!!

I'm sorry about I didnt email you for a long time..

hm.. I'd like to talk to you on 18th..Okay?? I'm exciting about listen your news!!haha

well I'll have history exams tomorrow..I hope I can do well on it..

see ya!

Aya

dw guys i aint gonna tell her about the message board, i just got so many things to tell her!! its been like 7 months since we talked. well hope it goes well! cant wait! i'm seriously over excited and i know i shouldn't

142 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-17 23:07 ID:5bNbblRy

Benson! The 18th is coming up! I hope all goes well!

143 Name: I/FAIL\IT!anzteOw4H6!!hD8noMhp : 2006-07-18 08:29 ID:PAgfTVs2

I just recently discovered 4-ch (through 4chan.org, oddly enough) and I finished reading this thread only moments ago. I am, however, drawn into your story. I've nothing to say that hasn't already been said, however I wish you the best of luck.

144 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-18 08:44 ID:Heaven

>>143
Please sage if you have nothing to say. Type "sage" in the link field when you post. It prevents the thread bumping back to the top of the page.

Thanks.

145 Name: Einhander!anzteOw4H6 : 2006-07-19 08:01 ID:PAgfTVs2

Benson, what happened? It's past the eighteenth. Any luck?

146 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-19 08:48 ID:Heaven

i'd like to know too !

147 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-07-21 15:28 ID:OU3+IMJM

haha i thought this thread died, well the 18th........ she never came on and i waited till 12 AM that night, was very disappointed but i emailed her saying if she has time i would like to talk to her again. but oh well, i really dont know what to do now cept wait again, however i been emailing with this girl latley but she... how to say... she looks like a kid!! shes nice, seem to get along really well but i think we're just good friends. lol to be honest i think i'm really bad when it comes to girls, i think the big problem is that i'm not ready and not serious enough to have a relationship at the moment, i just think theres something more i should do before going into those stuff, i'm not to sure. well with aya i just have to wait for her next reply, mayb in a monthi presume.... surprised this thread is still alive lol! thanks for the post and wish everyone the best!!

148 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-22 04:40 ID:/f0KvnI5

Benson, honestly it's not that hard for someone to reply to e-mails. The fact that it takes her a month to reply is not a good sign. Either she does not use the computer but once a month, or she is blowing you off like she did on the 18th every time you e-mail her. If it is the former, then she could not possibly know enough about internet subleties to form a viable feeling for you over the internet because it is not a big part of her life. If it is the second, then she obviously has no permanent feelings for you, and digs you up when she is lonely. Either way you're setting yourself up for a world of hurt. You cannot possibly woo her with chatting only once a month. I urge you not to spend your youthful years pining after the unatainable. You will find yourself an old man pining after his youth. Perhaps the best thing you could do now is buy that Steyr AUG that another secret admirer suggested earlier in this thread. In reality, it would have as much effect on your friendship/relationship with Aya as anything else you could do during the silent months. This may be better conveyed by a sports reference. The ball is in her court and she's not dribbling. I hope everything works out for you Benson, one way or another.
rx

149 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-07-22 13:38 ID:OU3+IMJM

thanks for that, i'm not actuali like OBSESED with her or anything, well it does make sense if she has no permant feelings for me but that doesn't really matter. i realized that waiting here will just make me worse so i moved on a while ago, its hard to think the reasons why she email me once a month when we use to email each other like every 2 days or so. i dont know her very well since we never met and only talked a few times last year. lol maybe i'll just save up for that Steyr AUG xD well keep you guys posted if anything comes up!

150 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-07-29 06:40 ID:OU3+IMJM

hey guys!
your not gonna beleive it! i got Aya's mobile no.!! shes in hawaii at the moment for vacation and gonna stay there for 3 weeks. i told her i might visit her end of year cos i mite be going to japan for a holiday, she wrote "please call me if you come to japan!!" lol this email didn't take long, only took 2 weeks hahahaha xD

151 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-29 12:46 ID:3xU2EID8

>>150
yeah, must be the delays in getting the mail all the way from japan to australia.

152 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-07-30 07:02 ID:Heaven

>>151
fucking pony express are getting slower and slower.

153 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-02 11:19 ID:v1qcCebU

hey guys!
just got an package from a girl over seas, shes a family friend of mine. sent all these stationy stuff she made, has my name all over it LOL. anyway i just recieved an email from Aya in Hawaii, she says she wants to send me a letter. my week just keeps getting better and better ^^

154 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-10 13:13 ID:tXRtSl7F

hey everyone
i just recieved a postcard from aya, lol the front cover says "thinking of you in hawaii". nothing much written on it cept that its hot there and asked how i was and how everything is going here. she describes how hawaii is such a nice place and that if i ever get a chance to go i should go. well pretty happy about the post card xD

155 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-08-10 15:08 ID:gDEVaHfA

Your the Man Benson_2009!!!!! This girl loves you! This is amazing! An otaku like myself, who want's to become a director, like myself, is actually loved by an asian girl.(though the fact I'm also asian) HAHA!

156 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-10 17:05 ID:/KMP+L2x

Aw, what a great story :)

Keep us updated, Benson.
I think something might even happen from this :D

157 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-10 17:06 ID:Heaven

>>156
Forgot to mention that it has been 5 months already!
Amazing :)

158 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-11 13:33 ID:tXRtSl7F

hahaha thanks guys!! looks like there really is something going on here!! well i hope lol! i'll be sure to keep you guys updated! :)

>>157 5 months?! really?! i didn't even notice... wow!

159 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-11 19:24 ID:OfWtHTht

There will never come anything out of it. Get over her already and search for a better girl, one that doesn't play with you and that you can have an actual love relation with.

I know it sounds harsh, but that's the way it is.

160 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-11 21:14 ID:68dNsi6c

>>159 agreed

161 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-11 22:47 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>1
I'm touched by your story, though I have no advice relevant to your situation to dispense. It seems to all have been said by now. I will support the "keep an open heart" advice though. However, I find the use of the term Jap offensive. Perhaps it's not considered so Down Under, I don't know. I'd just suggest being mindful of the words you use. I do have something to say about your career choice though...

Screw what people think! You're doing the best thing you can do if you want to make films. Make as many films as you can. It's the only way you'll get better: practice! Also please study how the media can manipulate the mind, it'll keep those delusions of granduer in check and is the first line of defense in preventing idiots from spreading their ignorant views. The film industry is a dirty business and hard to get into. Be prepared to be dirt poor for a long time, frustrated with job hunting, stepped all over by your superiors, and treated like a slave at first, maybe even for a while. Oh, and it's murder on relationships...except when you're not working.

Good luck with the girl though.

- A media student trying to jam his foot in the door to the wonderful world of entertainment

>>155
If you didn't say you were Asian, I might be really disturbed by your interest in Asians, seems like everyone here has some sort of Asian fetish...creepy. Please tell me this is not true. Like the girl for the girl, not just because she's Asian or whatever.

162 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-13 03:30 ID:tXRtSl7F

>>161 thanks for the advice, it was very hard for me to make films especially last year when alot of people was agaisnt it, but now i'm saying exactly what you said "screw what people think!" i mean its my future not thiers and they can think whatever they want. lol i know the film industry is a difficult one but i'm gonna try my best to get in it from bottom to top!

>>159 hmm its not really harsh, more like the truth. alot of people have said that shes just playing with me but i dont know why something just doesn't feel like that. well i'm gonna see whats going to happen, it isn't the best choice to decide to get over things now.

163 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-13 03:58 ID:D3t+OVMc

benson you are breaking my balls here. you are so in love with this girl, but is she in love with you? i have been reading your story since the beginning and its been the same cycle: you talk to her, she disappears, you think about moving on, she comes back and you talk to her. get out of this pointless self destructive cycle. nothing is going to change. it is male nature to want a girl who rejects, it is just the way we are built. just get over it. many people here, including myself, have been saying to move on, she isnt worth it. i dont want to sound like a broken record, but she isnt worth it, move on. this isnt densha otoko, this isnt a book or a movie, this is real life, this is your life, dont waste it, please.

164 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-13 10:12 ID:6w3uCmQ7

Okay, from what I've read, it sounds like you're the type of guy who jumps the gun alot.

Firstly, when a girl ends her letters in "luv aya", it does not imply anything serious. More likely, she feels acquainted with you and sees you as a friend. Please stop assuming that she is interested in you just because she sends you a couple of emails occasionally. I can tell you that if it takes her that long to reply to an email then obviously she has her own life. Her priority is not you. Ie: She is a smart girl who is simply looking for a friend in you.

Secondly, with no disrespect to anyone, I can hardly see how you can fall in love with some when there's a language barrier between you. I mean, from teh email that you posted here, it seems like the convos are really shallow, and essentially a bunch of light and polite conversation. No offence to her, but her english is too dodgy to draw any value from it. Perhaps the language barrier might've worked if you guys regularly conversed and met each other in real life, but as it stands I think you're decieving yourself if you're actually seeing sparks.

Thirdly, I really don't think you know anything about love. Or perhaps you are too young to. In the process of chasing "Aya", you also seem very open minded to other girls from overseas. I can tell you that relationships and feelings don't just start from an exchange of the occasional word on the internet. What's more, you constantly refer to "Aya" as "the jap girl". By labelling her like that shows me you don't really love her.

Lastly, you should just get on with life and meet girls that you can easily ACCESS. Maybe then you'll get a grasp to understand girls and I won't have to be reading cringing stories like this on the internet anymore. I can't believe noone has told you this. If you really are trying to imitate Densha Otako, this comes nothing close to it. At least in his situation the girl was within metres of him, not thousands of kilometres. Get back to reality.

165 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-14 01:06 ID:k4lJ6lVW

>>162 but i dont know why something just doesn't feel like that
It /never/ feels like that. I learned this the hard way. Please don't make the mistake I did.

>>164
Agreed.

166 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-14 23:34 ID:z1E7ECcQ

I am Australian too. I talked to a girl on msn for almost a year and I thought I really loved her, but her suicidial tendencies and the fact that she was bisexual meant that I regretted ever wasting that much time telling her not to kill herself.

And, yeah, go with the Steyr AUG. Chicks dig them.

167 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-14 23:37 ID:z1E7ECcQ

And no, Jap is not really that acceptable, even in Australia. The japanese make up a huge chunk of Australia. And I am fucking glad that that do.

168 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 03:38 ID:ol4G4Ys3

>>166
STFU, I know for a FACT that love can remove a girl's suicidality.
Bis rule dude, I have a lot of bi friends and its awesome knowing girls as perved as you.

169 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 06:00 ID:ftaUl2Xe

What the hell is the big deal about this Steyr AUG? It's just a freakin' gun, jeez. ¬_¬ If a guy needs a gun to be secure in his masculinity, then he's got bigger problems than finding women.

170 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 06:13 ID:D3t+OVMc

i dare you to say that when he has a steyr aug in your face.

171 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 09:10 ID:Heaven

>>167
what are you smoking? there's hardly any japanese in australia, relatively speaking. lots of chinese and vietnamese around, though.

172 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 12:16 ID:6w3uCmQ7

>>167
you obviously don't live in australia, or you assume every black haired person is japanese. fail either way.

173 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-15 13:35 ID:Ys5uUH/j

ok guys lay out the flaming lol
what i dont understand is that alot of people are urging me to get this Steyr AUG gun, is it really that attractive to get a gun?!!

yea its true, hardly any japanese here in australia, mostly chinese like from hong kong or taiwan like my self. about why i called aya "Jap girl" was becasue i didn't know what to call her and didn't thought of saying her real name, i had no idea it was offensive since people in australia here talk so slang most of the time...if i knew i would never had said it so thats why i call her by her real name.

to be honest i am very confused right now, its true i know nothing about love because i never been in love before. reason why i like aya so much was last year was like hell for me, like i said in my first post i was basicly bullied by these group of people. for about a whole year, all i knew was hatred and darkness, i almost gave up. intill the day i met aya, it was a feeling i havn't felt for ages, i was happy, like really happy especially when we talked on skype. for the first time a girl wanted to talk to me i was like "wooww" but thats prob nothing... so basicly, aya saved me from the hard times. i know its hard to beleive but i tried several times to move on but i'm just not attracted to other girls here...the only way i think i can move on is if i get rejected, like most of you guys said, she might be just playing or only think of me as a friend. i can never forget that feeling from last year, maybe thats why i cant move on. i didn't realize till now that this is the first time i'm in love with someone, I'm actuali a type of person who doesn't like to say "i love someone" for some reason, usualy i say "i like someone".

i cant seem to get along with girls here prob becasue they think i'm a kind of looser since i love watching anime, movies and playing games. girls here like those hardcore asian types who love to show off with thier cool hair style or whatever.

anyway just wanted to tell you guys why i'm in love with aya. most of you guys think its prob the most stupidist thing to fall for someone on the net who you never met before. >>164 is really right, i know nothing about love since this is really the first time. like i said in another post, i am pretty anti social even on msn nower days. to be honest this is the closest relation i have with a girl, never talk to a girl on a mic for 6 hours... never sent a gift to a girl before either and aya is the first girl i sent too.. maybe i live in the dreamworld too much, too much of a dreamer. like most people say "reality kills ya!"

174 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 16:39 ID:m4YHE6jz

>>173
lol Steyr AUG, it's just an inside joke here on /love/. Sorry to break the trolling of other Anonymous, but I don't wanna see you spend money because of a meme

175 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-15 16:42 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>173
They're just fucking with you about the gun. Don't take them seriously, and here in the US, everyone thinks you're Chinese, or if they have some sort of intelligence, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and sometimes Filipino.

I know it's hard to move on. I jump from crush to crush, and the only way I move on is if I meet another girl. Then the vicious cycle repeats. You will meet someone else sooner or later, but remember to keep an open heart, or you could pass up a great opportunity.

176 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 06:09 ID:LzD1U2Fu

>>173
I love someone I've never met, I believe in it 5000%
I hope she really loves you man, otaku gotta stick together

177 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 06:52 ID:c3PcXB+n

Benson....

Steyr AUG is not a meme....I own one and it grants me all kinds of awesome. Don't listen to the heathens, you are probably one of the few decent people on this bullshit forum.

Seriously, get one.

178 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 07:26 ID:k4lJ6lVW

>>168
Worst advice ever given on this board ever. Never, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER date a girl with more problems with you. Seriously, if this chick is fucked up she is just going to drag you into it and it'll be a big fucking waste of your time. Doesn't matter how "nice she is", doesn't matter how much you love her, drop it like a hot fucking potato.

Also:
Keep in mind that a lot of girls (particularly the crazy ones) pretend to be/say they are bisexual to either get attention or cope with some kind of emotional problem. If a girl says she's bisexual, ESPECIALLY if she's upfront about it (i.e., mentions it out of the blue as a means of gaining attention), get the fuck away from her, as far as romantic relationships go. Also, this has about a ninety-nine percent correlation rate: all bisexual girls, real or pretend, are batshit insane. This is a FACT.

tl;dr: Never date a girl with more problems than you.

179 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 07:27 ID:k4lJ6lVW

DON'T DO IT.

THIS POST EMPHASIZES THE LAST POST.

DON'T DO IT.

180 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 07:27 ID:k4lJ6lVW

Seriously just STAY AWAY.

181 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 07:28 ID:k4lJ6lVW

182 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 07:34 ID:/9AlpCKF

>>178
As a bisexual girl, I resent your statement about bisexual girls being batshit insane. :-p
Though it is indeed true that if someone's using his/her sexuality (whatever it may be, hetero-, homo-, bi-, pan-, etc) as a way to attention whore, one needs to avoid getting into a relationship with the person.

183 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 07:53 ID:z1E7ECcQ

>>171
>>172

Ok, huge chunk was an exaggeration, but I happen to know a lot of Japanese people. And yes, I can tell the difference between asians. There are enough Japanese in Australia. Especially where I live. I suppose the fact that most store signs near me are in both English and Japanese (And yes I can tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese, that isn't it) means that there are no Japanese people? But what exactly are you arguing, that it is therefore acceptable to call them Japs? There are plenty of Japanese people in Australia, there are more Chinese and other asian people, but there are still a lot of Japanese immigrants.

184 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-16 08:29 ID:Ys5uUH/j

>>183 i think its just some australian slang to call japanese "Japs", i live in melbourne and havn't even seen one japanese person here, i know sydney as a few.

ahh looks like my first ever experience is with a long distance and i heard they dont long last.

>>178 you know i met a girl whos a family friend almost dragged me along with her problems. every single problem even a small one she would just come straight to me. i reckon what you say is true...not to be tite or anything but it was pretty annoying cos my phone kept beeping every 5 seconds and my inbox was full cos of this girl.. so scary

lol i'm not gonna buy a rifle, dont even have a gun license and to be honest i stil dont see how a rifle can get you anywhere. funny thing! lol

anway i dont know what to do, maybe just wait as usual for something to happen. prob wont get into relationships intill i graduate cos getting a pretty busy year next year so i should be working hard lol, but thanks for the great advice everyone! wish you all the best!

185 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-16 20:29 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>178
Everyone of our generation is fucked up. Everyone has some sort of issue with something. I wouldn't write her off right away because of that, but I would proceed with caution.

>>184
Slang, so I suppose they also refer to all their other minorities by derogatory slurs, hmm?

186 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-17 06:35 ID:OEX/IOcR

She's not, fucked up surroundings would give almost anyone low self esteem. She used to be, but isn't anymore.
BTW, she's not bi, I just know a few. ONE of them...yeah...compulsive liar, upfront, etc

187 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-17 11:05 ID:nNB2iArO

Benson. Aya is out of your reach, but there are other girls like her who are more accessible to you, it wouldn't be fair to yourself to emotionally attach yourself to something you cannot get. Be friends, but I think you should keep your romantical life open to realistic oppertunities. You seem like a good person, and I think a relationship with a decent girl would do you well, so it's definately something you should work for.

Also, looking where you haven't looked before might be a good idea, for while finding someone who is a lot like yourself with interests and everything might seem like fun and good idea to begin with, having someone who can complement yourself and bring new strenghts into your life is actually better. The most important thing is that you love eachother and can hold passion for eachother, similar interests is only a must for this for people who put their minds under matter. If you don't do that you can appriciate people much more, and will be less inclined to tire of them.

In either case I wish you good luck with your lovelife and life at large.

188 Name: LonnDragon : 2006-08-17 13:20 ID:Xw7QPBqg

Benson I hate to ay it but it sounds like Aya is very casual about you and is in no way serious about you at all. I really wish I could be one of the Densha style cheerleaders but in this case it’s just not in the cards.

I think your best/safest bet at this point is confession and see where that leads. In your next conversation on Skype or MSN just tell her you have something to say to her and say it. If she has mutual feelings she will let you know. If she has a Boyfriend she will tell you. If you have been Friend zoned then she will tell you that too. After that you can move on with your life one way or the other.

189 Name: LonnDragon : 2006-08-17 13:20 ID:Xw7QPBqg

Benson I hate to ay it but it sounds like Aya is very casual about you and is in no way serious about you at all. I really wish I could be one of the Densha style cheerleaders but in this case it’s just not in the cards.

I think your best/safest bet at this point is confession and see where that leads. In your next conversation on Skype or MSN just tell her you have something to say to her and say it. If she has mutual feelings she will let you know. If she has a Boyfriend she will tell you. If you have been Friend zoned then she will tell you that too. After that you can move on with your life one way or the other.

190 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-17 13:24 ID:2jn0At37

>>183
Okay, I think there was a misinterpretation on both parts. The 'offensive' part of saying "the jap girl" is not so much the "jap" bit, but the fact that she was labelled. Like, use her name for respect? I absolutely have no qualms about using jap, cos it's not a racial slur in any way (if you think otherwise, please give some reason). Which is probably why I interpreted >>167's "jap" comment as japs aren't welcome in australia. As in, mixed relationships are not accepted or something. Thus you would understand my wtf attitude. For the record though, I don't know whereabouts you live, but overall the proportion of japanese people in australia is very small.

Anyhow, point is; if you really like someone, you would use their name for goodness sake.

191 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-17 14:18 ID:Ys5uUH/j

>>189 i think your suggestion is best, if i do confess next time we talk i would 100% know if shes being serious or just playing around. i shutted my self from my social life for a while latley, only cos of work. its true thats shes out of my reach, i mean we live so far away so there really is not a slight chance. but what if, next time i do confess and it turns out that she liked me as well, what do i do next?? i mean will she be my first gf or are we still just friends??

its weird to say this but, its kinda lonley sometimes... when theres no one to talk to. even in my family, my parents travel often so not at home much and my older brother goes out frequently and we dont really talk much. my daily life is either on the computer, playing games, watching anime or movies and school work. i mean most girls who know me prob think i'm this big looser, i tried to change once but it just didn't work out cos i dont feel like my self, its like i'm hiding my real personality. to be honest i use to be on msn 24/7 talking to people but now i hardly go online or talk to people.

i could already tell that me and Aya prob wont really work since she keeps disappearing...i really wish we lived in the same area, if we did that might have worked.
>>187 she did bring new stregth into my life, if i didn't meet her last year i would have stopped filming, prob gave up since these group of people were picking on me. she actuali gave me courage to stand up agaisnt those people and to keep filming, like i said i never met anyone like her, and like i said in my previous post, i was really happy when i talked to her and last year all i saw was just darkness. you know its funny, i said that i didn't want a gf and here i am hoping to get one. i actuali been rejected 6 times already......thats why i'm stil single and in this thread lol. anyway i think Aya is going back to japan near the end of this month, possible that i could talk to her and finaly confess, see what her answer is.... if yes, i would be extremly happy and see if we could work something out. if no, i would move on knowing that i got rejected again and having the first time to confess on the phone (i use to do it on msn cos too nervous to say it, i guess thats why i got rejected lol). you guys think thats a better idea??

192 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-17 16:28 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>191
If you feel you really must, don't "confess," just tell her. You'll scare her away for sure with a confession, but if you're cool about it, I guess there's nothing wrong with it. However, I feel she's not serious about this and would've seen that red flag right away.

>she did bring new stregth into my life, if i didn't meet her last year i would have stopped filming, prob gave up since these group of people were picking on me. she actuali gave me courage to stand up agaisnt those people and to keep filming

Then her job is done. There are three kinds of people you'll meet in your life: those that are there for a lifetime, those that are there for a part of it, and those that are there only for a moment. The things we learn about ourselves through them lasts forever though.

>>190
The term Jap was used as a derogatory term for the Japanese during World War II. It's like calling a Chinese chink or a Korean gook. I doubt you are referring to Jewish American Princess since you're Australian and that's an American term.

193 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-17 19:26 ID:D3t+OVMc

>Jewish American Princess

I have never heard that before.

Benson, go ahead and confess, I doubt it would make a difference. You just gotta get out and enjoy life. Join a club, just go out and meet people.

194 Name: Otaku Hikki : 2006-08-18 09:01 ID:Heaven

Hey Benson, your local fellow man from Australia. I have nothing to add to this thread that had not been said already.

But on a curious note, how old are you and which suburb do you live in Melbourne?

Today is Friday, and I find myself sitting on my ass in front of my computer as usual and thinking of what to do. It's nothing special today but I'm responding to this thread anyway, usually I'm just a lurker and can't think anything to reply to most threads in this bbs.

Do you have friends and do you go out?

195 Name: Otaku Hikki : 2006-08-18 09:03 ID:cYr5ss8q

I didn't meant to sage this thread. That is a typo.

196 Name: 187 : 2006-08-18 10:12 ID:nNB2iArO

>>191

True, I was being all practical and shit but nevermind that, go get shot down, or conquer her heart! Love is worth a risk, blood, sweat and tears.

I'm just realizing that if something is to come out of this, it will take a lot of work. But what worthwhile doesn't ey?

197 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-18 13:47 ID:2jn0At37

>>192
Okay, you might be right. But it's still really absurd to think that "jap" would be an offensive term. I mean, at least with "chink" and "gook", there are negative connotations. Compared to them, "jap" is a really plausible shorthand. I dunno, perhaps it was offensive like 50yrs ago or so, but in today's society it's rather accepted and definitely isn't used in a derogatory sense. Much like how we use "phillo", "viet", "malay", "indo" and even "aussie".

198 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-19 12:27 ID:Ys5uUH/j

>>194 um.. i dont go out much, only go out to watch a movie or something occasionaly with a friend. i go out more on holidays with 4-5 friends and we go to the movies or around the city.

lol my age, i'm 16 turning 17 in a month. hmm i live around doncaster, lol how old did you think i was??

199 Name: Otaku Hikki : 2006-08-20 10:57 ID:cYr5ss8q

Guess that I'm correct you are around that age. :)

Nah just curious.

Doncaster is not far lol. There are lot of Chinese living there, it is well off place, people got money there :)

But I prefer Box Hill, thats where I wonder around sometimes, in the arcades, but I don't live there though.

200 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-20 12:33 ID:Ys5uUH/j

lol box hill is like hardcore asian areas, my school is near box hill, its like a 15 min tram to get there.

anyway i've been thinking for a while, theres this other girl i'm intrested which is a family friend of mine. we talk alot on msn but shes in taiwan. she sent me this package 3 weeks ago with these stickers thats got my name on it and stuff. i just bought her a bracelet with her name as a thank you gift which i'm sending it tomorow. we get along well and she helped me with some situation and i help her alot on her english lol, prehaps i should get over aya and focus on her?? i mean at least i get to see her once a year cos i go back during the holidays and we talk alot, unlike aya who just randomly disappear. so what you guys think?? oh btw her name is KIM (its not reallly her english name but apparently thats what her english teacher calls her lol)

201 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-20 12:34 ID:Heaven

btw forgot to mention

200GET

202 Name: Otaku Hikki : 2006-08-21 11:08 ID:cYr5ss8q

Just wondering, why do you keep trying to get girls from overseas?

Why not here?

203 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-21 11:38 ID:u4dePnhM

well i have actualli, i got rejected 6 times here lol. hhmm i kinda lost intrest to girls here due to that and girls here aint intrested into people like me. i tried a few times to get along with girls here but just doesn;t work for some reason. anyway i'll be seeing KIM at the end of this year cos i'm going back to taiwan.

204 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-21 16:54 ID:uJ6Jwl/v

6 times?!?! holy fuck, 6 girls out of an australian population of 20 million said no.

205 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-22 11:17 ID:G6QxEHDw

hmm these people i use to hang around thought i was trying to act hardcore by asking every girl out, i use to play badminton with them. i was only asking out as a friend but i didn't understand that people here thought you were trying to hit on them when you ask them out cos in taiwan i think its normal if you ask them out as a friend, different things i guess. for some odd reason, everytime i like someone i seem to get further away from them like naturely. i guess i'm use to being by my self, my friend says i'm very dependant lol.

anyway i really decided to give up on aya, even if she replies me i'll just stay good friends with her. what do you guys think??

206 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-22 11:31 ID:y/sK/8YS

HARDCORE BADMINTON!!!!
no wait...

207 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-22 16:38 ID:UXOt+hhz

do it!

208 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-22 21:00 ID:nNB2iArO

>>205

>>anyway i really decided to give up on aya, even if she replies me i'll just stay good friends with her. what do you guys think??

I think you're on to something there. Sitting there pining for this girl forever without relief will only eat you up inside.

209 Name: frigid onanoko : 2006-08-22 23:16 ID:y/sK/8YS

Yes. give up on this. I've followed the story while it ran, and this is the only sensible thing left. The reasons to believe love might ensue from this were pretty shallow anyway.

Frigid onanoko can only support this decision. Friends is a boon already.

210 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-23 04:46 ID:843ghjnT

Just hope that it's not one of those "moving on" things that you keep on doing but coming back to it after she says something nice.....

211 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-23 10:09 ID:G6QxEHDw

hahaha i did realize that so i said i'll just stay good friends with her. me and some friends decided to ask these girls out next week, one of them is a family friend of mine so shouldn't be hard to ask, maybe this is starting fresh! ah i'm stil talking to kim latley lol

212 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-26 10:00 ID:G6QxEHDw

it seems my luck with girls is really bad, apparently no girls could go next week so the arrangements got cancelled... well i dont really mind but loosing a little confidence in this type of situation more now. lol i'm pretty screwed for my formal next year, prob wont go since i got no one to take and cost alot as well...i'm stil not giving up, gonna try again next time!

213 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-26 14:15 ID:ftaUl2Xe

Take a friend, that's what I did. IMO, formals are a bigger deal to the parents than the kids though. Don't go crazy over it.

214 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-27 15:37 ID:G6QxEHDw

i was going to take a friend, even told the girls to bring friends. but they just couldn't go so we cancelled it, o well.

got so drunk tonight at my brothers birthday party, first time LOL!!

215 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-27 20:14 ID:UXOt+hhz

hooray beer!

216 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-28 12:51 ID:wrDP0b1r

lol i had 4 bottles and got so high!~

anyway i'm intrested in this girl who lives in the same place!
well the funny thing is this girl who i talked to a bit 3 months ago, started talking to me on the weekend saying how she sees me at my bus stop everyday. she goes to the same school as my family friend and she sometimes jokes about trrying to get me to go for my family friend. so i said "are you trying to get me to go for her?" so she says "nahh got my own problems" so i being nice said that if she has any problems, feel free to ask me. she says "nah its private" but my computer lagged for a sec so i didn't reply when she suddenly said "ok, but dont tell anyone like...(this list of names) promise!?" so i said yea and she tells me about this guy who stalks her and gets too jealous easily. the guy sounds so weird, he cried infront of her and hugged her so tight while saying "I love you".

i also talk to this other girl, we just talked about anime all night lol!! and apparently she looks cute i heard xD i think this is a good fresh start to get over aya! btw i tried to call her last nite and this random girl picks up saying "moshi moshi?!" she couldn't speak english at all, so funny xD

217 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-28 13:01 ID:Heaven

>>216
dude. long distance call gone to waste. not funny.

218 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-28 13:33 ID:nNB2iArO

>>216

lol, as long as you're having fun I guess.

219 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-29 09:46 ID:wrDP0b1r

lol i know its expensive, my house has this dial where it cost onl 7 cents a minute!

anyway i'm thinking of trying to get close to this girl i was talking to last nite. shes really into anime LOL!~ she also goes to the badminton place, i was thinking maybe i should go so i could meet her face to face. i'm gonna try another arrangement to ask the girls out, like i'll ask some friends to come with me and tell them to bring friends as well, what you guys think??

220 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-29 12:28 ID:ftaUl2Xe

LDRs rarely work out, but if you absolutely must meet, then by all means do so. Besides, you have no idea if you'll even like each other when you meet.

221 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-29 16:17 ID:UXOt+hhz

why bring friends along? that will only make her think that you want to be friends. just ask the girl out for ice cream or something along those lines.

222 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-30 10:11 ID:wrDP0b1r

so u mean i should just ask her out like just me and her?!

223 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-30 11:32 ID:wrDP0b1r

just talk to the girl on the phone, god her voice sounds so cute!~ we're meeting next friday at the badminton place, yes that badminton place LOL!! i was pretty nervous when i was talking to her, she giggled alot when i went a little speechless....oh btw her name is LYSS. her voice is stuck in my head! bah so cute XD! btw last time i went to that badminton place, i was so nervous i didn't talk at all and made my self look like a complete idiot, so this time i'm gonna take some courage and talk to the girls there, i think i will be so nervous that i'll stop breathing ~~" so gonna embarras my self there, i cant play badminton anymore, cant even hit the damn shutle now... any advice??

224 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 13:10 ID:Heaven

yeah, hit the shuttle, not the cock.

225 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 13:12 ID:Heaven

ps. you sound like a cute guy....except ur 17 rite? dontcha have some important exams to do in like a month or so? i know i do..

226 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 15:12 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>223
A voice is a voice. Don't set yourself up for a huge fall, hope it works out.

227 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 18:35 ID:UXOt+hhz

hey ask her to teach you how to play. it would make a good date.

228 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 20:19 ID:nNB2iArO

>>227

This sounds like a good idea.

Also don't worry about embarassing yourself, worry about not doing things in fear of embarassment. If you cut yourself down because you're scared, you will just seem boring and unattractive.

229 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 20:51 ID:kDfov1vi

>>212

>> i'm pretty screwed for my formal next year, prob wont go since i got no one to take and cost alot as well

That's not a bad thing. Just stay home and play Pokemon or watch anime or something like I did. At the end of the night, you'll actually have something to show for yourself, unlike the people who went to that formal. Basically, they just wasted a ton of money and time to sit around talking without anything to show for their time. Lame.

230 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 21:17 ID:UXOt+hhz

Yeah, stay at home by yourself with only Pikachu as your friend. Go ahead and watch anime that you could see on any night of the year. Yes sir, nothing is more rewarding than avoiding people and hiding because you are too scared to ask a girl out to the formal or too afraid of just going stag with a bunch of friends and not enjoying yourself. Be lazy, don't get a job so you can pay for the expenses. Man, I regret going to my formal (prom). If I didn't plan on going, I wouldn't have asked this girl to go with me and she wouldn't be my current girlfriend. Yup, watchin anime that I could watch on any night would have been 20x better than spending all night with a cute girl and all of my friends. >>229 you are right, I have nothing to show, just a few pictures, memories and a girlfriend.

benson have hope and have a lot more patience, you will win my friend.

231 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-30 22:01 ID:kDfov1vi

>>Go ahead and watch anime that you could see on any night of the year.

The exact same thing can be said about going to a formal/prom. You sit around doing nothing or talking with people. How is that different from sitting around with friends any other night of the year? Oh, wait... You have to <i>pay</i> for the privelege of attending. No fucking thanks.

232 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 00:46 ID:Heaven

>>230
lol fag

233 Name: 230 : 2006-08-31 02:32 ID:UXOt+hhz

i give up

234 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 03:54 ID:1tWWjHvT

I went to the formal by myself. Only because I felt I had to. But I don't see anything wrong with staying home and watching anime. I barely remember the formal and I have no photos of it. I doubt it will be a memory that I will hold onto til the day I die. But I can remember every plot line of every anime I have ever watched. Now that is something I will hold onto til the day I die.

235 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 09:09 ID:Heaven

>>231
haha that is funny seeing as you never went to a formal -_-.
this isn't a matter of money. i know alot of stingy people who went to my formal. why? because memories are priceless. if you actually socialised you would know the difference between "sitting around with friends" and attending an event that would potentially be one of the most memorable time of your life. take it from the words of someone who actually went to their formal. live life with no regrets and don't do something that will be a cause for embarassment when you grow up and look back on life.

236 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 09:33 ID:Heaven

If a formal is one of the most memorable events in your life I wouldn't want to live that life. I weep for you

237 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-08-31 09:50 ID:ngTqiKkv

>>225 lol well not at the moment, exams are around November so i stil have time now xD

well yesterday i was talking to Lyss again on msn, and i cannot beleive how nice she is. well 2 months ago, i had to walk home for 1 hour and 30 mins in the rain cos the person who picks me up forgot about it, my parents were overseas and my older brother was stil at uni. around my area they dont have much walkpaths cos its near the bushy mountain area. so i told her about this and shes shocked, like really surprised and said "what if you got....pneumonia or something like that ><"""""""", *slightly paranoid" and then said "you wont do that again right?!" so i said no and she said "thats good! :)" then later on.. this convo happened

Lyss: just curious...you made up your nickname right? its not form a song right?
Benson: yeah i made it up
Lyss: I've been meaning to ask if you were ok.. coz "kurayami"(darkness) is kinda depressing...
Benson: oh that name is like from ages ago, just forgot to change it (btw the name said "the world of darkness has come back to me") i think the name was around..... april or something
Lyss:ohh! are you ok now? you are right?!
Benson: yeaa i'm great! xD its all good now, thanks anyway^^
Lyss: ttthatts good =]]!

oh btw her msn was on busy and it said she was doing hww....is this going somewhere?!!

also.. i was thinking... if i win or get to know lyss ver well i mite ask her to the formal next year.. btw >>234 its so bad to go to the formal by your self since you have to pay while you got no one else to take and people will laugh at you for not having a girl to take there, thats why a few people are thinking of not going next year. i dont see whats wrong watching anime on that night if you got no one to take there... but i reckon it will be a good memory if you could go. some poeple think other people who dont go to formal are loosers, i dont know why they think that...jsut cos we dont have to pay so much money to go into some place with a girl and talk.... well anyway it stil a long time till my formal so i got ALL the time to think about it xD

238 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 13:54 ID:Heaven

>>236
Eh? Why not? Lemme guess, you hated your life at highschool or something? It's not the formal itself. It's what it represents. The friends, atmosphere, final year, growing up, celebration.

Save the tears for yourself man.

239 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 14:46 ID:UXOt+hhz

>>236

A lot of people lose their virginity at their formals at least in America.

240 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 16:51 ID:ftaUl2Xe

Yeah, it's considered a mating ritual here. It's prostitution on a grandiose scale.

>>some poeple think other people who dont go to formal are loosers, i dont know why they think that...jsut cos we dont have to pay so much money to go into some place with a girl and talk

Formals are a big deal because people make them a big deal. Nothing has meaning unless meaning is attached to it. Women love it because everyone has to get all dressed up. Guys like it cause a lot of them think they'll get laid afterwards (and many do, but the number is greatly exaggerrated). Parents love it because they get to pretend their kids are adults for one night. Formals are very much an evolved rite of passage out of adolescence into early adulthood from some ancient ceremony our ancestors held. Like other human behavior, anyone that doesn't follow the status quo is different and therefore must be labeled and persecuted.

My formal was nothing special, and I had a date, but then again, we both fell into the "social outcast" archetype. She was against formals, yet she had a dress, so she was pressured by some of her friends to go with me, not exactly how I'd like to get a date, but whatever. I would've went stag, but well...I didn't have any friends.

241 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 19:46 ID:UXOt+hhz

you can't fight tradition

242 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 22:01 ID:ftaUl2Xe

Try saying that to women and blacks.

243 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 22:56 ID:UXOt+hhz

Blacks?! What do they do do with this?

244 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 23:05 ID:jQxdPJsL

uuugh let's just ignore >>242, ok?

245 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-08-31 23:20 ID:VZ8RU3Lh

Don't do it, benson. Going to a formal will destroy you. You'l be there surrounded by dozens of other people, in a noisy, busy environment. That's no good for building a relationship with a girl. Don't you think going somewhere with just the two of you would be better?

Meeting up and playing Pokemon together, or getting a private booth at McDonald's, or something like that where the two of you get to spend some quality time together. That trumps anything you could possibly get out of a get-together you have to pay to attend. Take my word for it.

246 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 02:09 ID:1tWWjHvT

Formals suck. I hated every single person in my class. Dipshits, all of them. Why the fuck would I want to talk to them? And why the fuck would I want to remember it? But I do love pokemon and anime. It doesn't sound stupid at all.

247 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 03:06 ID:nNB2iArO

>>246

You hated everyone in your class? Dipshits, all of them? Ok look you don't come here giving advice, you're a fucking LUNATIC!

Benson

Going to a formal can also be a healthy experience for social growth even if it does retain shitty aspects, everything is what you make of it. The last thing you need to do is to take advice from a bunch of spiteful shutins if a normal, fulfilling life together with a woman is what you're aiming for.

I completely agree with >>238

248 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 03:32 ID:5C9nkvMQ

>>245
if you are trolling, you are a genius.

249 Name: 245 : 2006-09-01 04:27 ID:Heaven

>>247

Look, I'll admit that it sounds nice, but it sounds a bit TOO ideal, you know? Spending possibly hundreds of dollars on something, most people would want to feel like they didn't waste their money, so it's possible that people who have attended such things are biased towards it, or they have just fooled themselves into thinking that it was a good experience.

250 Name: benson_2009 : 2006-09-01 07:23 ID:ngTqiKkv

well wat i am thinking at the moment is if i am like close friends with lyss or able to win her, i might ask her to the formal. my bros is nagging me about it as well saying "why wouldn't u go to a formal?!" but come to think about it.. formal is like your last night to have fun with your school friends cos your about to graduate so i dont see whats to bad about going to the formal, but i kinda gree that it spends too much money with formal, u gotta buy a suit and also pay to go in. well anyway thanks to Lyss i'm completly over Aya, i saw her pic last night and she looks pretty cute! mite even be better in real life cos i couldn't really see the pic. apparently her school has this concert tonight, my school concert is next tuesday and its in a concert hall in the city, we have it every 2 years.

btw guys do u mind if i call my self 電影男?? people been calling me that latley at school since my movies have been uploaded onto youtube.

251 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 07:53 ID:nNB2iArO

I don't mind of you call yourself 電影男, only faggots snap about shit like that.

>>249

So you litterally HAVE to spend "hundreds of dollars"?

I've never been to a formal but it seems like it could be a memorable experience. Sure, if you don't have good reasons, like a date or accompanying friends, or something else, then I suppose there really is no point but if you DO.

Just saying. It's also kind of biased preaching against formals just because you personally can't find reasons to spend that money.

252 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 09:09 ID:03pjtcQy

>>250
How do you pronounce ????? ?

Go to the formal with Lyss. She so sounds like she digs you.
At least in 20 yrs time you'll have something to show for.
Pikachu will not be cool forever. Sad, but true.

I could see if you have a money dilemma if you were a girl. But seeing as you're a guy the tops you'll spend is $150. That's ticket, limo, tux hire and a corsage for your cute date.

253 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-01 10:52 ID:ngTqiKkv

lol its pronounced "Eiga Otoko" i think

hmm $150 isn't that bad i guess! btw wats it with pokemon?!! i dont even watch pokemon anymore LOL although people at school calls me a pokemon xD god i cant wait to see her next week! hope it goes well! btw any advice when i talk to lyss?

254 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-01 13:31 ID:/5dyg887

mann i think i impress lyss! we were talking about japanese and shes like "wow, you know quiet alot even though you dont learn it! xD" and i told her i ran for 35 mins on the trendmill today and she was shocked to hear it!~ omg i think this is going well ^^

255 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 16:16 ID:Heaven

>>251
A wapanese is fine too.

256 Name: 245 : 2006-09-01 20:09 ID:eaLtzSe2

>>252

>>At least in 20 yrs time you'll have something to show for. Pikachu will not be cool forever. Sad, but true.

Right. Pokemon's just been a worldwide phenomenon for 10 years now with no sign of slowing down. If he goes to the formal, what, exactly, will he have to show for it in 20 years? A ticket stub? With your Pikachu, you even have the option of evolving it along the way, adding a new realm of enjoyment and fun to your life. I don't see that kind of possibility when it comes to some school get-togeter.

If you have to go out with this girl, do as I said and get together on a one-on-one basis. It's like when you're trying to catch Safari Zone pokemon-- you can't just go in too strongly against them or they'll run away. You have to toss out some bait and slowly win them over. Bringing her to some noisy, crowded event that you had to pay to attend is no way to catch her heart in the pokeball of love.

257 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-01 23:51 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>If he goes to the formal, what, exactly, will he have to show for it in 20 years? A ticket stub?

I've got a videotape to show for it. They hired a videographer for our prom, and then of course there's the obligatory prom picture. I didn't even get to arrive in a freakin' limo. >.< Last time I'll be seen in a tux till someone's wedding (not mine, not marrying) or till I'm nominated for an award, ***last time*** I'll ever be seen in a bow tie. Bow ties look stupid.

>>254
Formals are all made out to be a big deal, but don't treat it like that. That's what they want you to think. Keep your cool, and you'll be fine. People make too much of a fuss over it. Don't fall for that crap. I do agree that they're ridiculously expensive though. However, usually the parents are so thrilled about it that they'll pay for most expenses if they can afford it. My prom was nothing special, but if you don't go, you'll never know. Look, there are two main ways to look at this. Whatever you choose, just have no regrets. That's the important thing.

I'm glad you've moved on, just don't set yourself up for disappointment by misinterpreting signals, and don't get caught in a vicious cycle like me. Good luck with the girl. She sounds great, so far.

I wish I could move on. u_u

258 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 06:15 ID:Heaven

>>255

How can you be so cool on the internet?

259 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 06:35 ID:Heaven

>>256
Using Pokemon as a metaphor for love is a sure fire way to lose your credibility.

260 Name: 245 : 2006-09-02 07:01 ID:LPHrpf0W

>>259

So instead of actually addressing what I said directly, you're choosing to discredit it on some flimsy pretext? It doesn't matter how I stated it-- my points still remain valid.

261 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 07:16 ID:nNB2iArO

>>260

No a formal would be more like the icing on the cake, you see. As with Benson and this Lyss, they are already getting to know eachother, taking her as date to a formal would be like a subtle invitation to a higher level, and she would most definately get that. Understand?

I know you do.

Reversedly asking someone to a formal could serve as a base on which to start to get to know a girl you like, if you haven't already prior to the event. And for that purpose it's also good. It's a nice, special event for such a gesture.

Chicks in particular dig this shit, you should not underestimate that.

262 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-02 08:02 ID:+d0+Zt9W

maybe i'll ask lyss out on the holidays since she lives right near my school... how long do you think it needs to take to ask her out?? i gotta give her a good impression next week when i see her!

263 Name: 245 : 2006-09-02 08:20 ID:LPHrpf0W

First off, benson, do you know which pokemon is her favorite? I only ask because I think it will help me to understand what kind of person she is. Knowing that will tell us more about her than anything else you could say.

If she likes Gardevoir, then she's a keeper, man.

264 Name: 245 : 2006-09-02 08:25 ID:LPHrpf0W

>>261

I understand how you could think so. It does seem like the perfect place for a couple, but if you look at it in the right way, then you'd see that it's really the worst thing you could do. For starters, you're surrounded by dozens of other people, and you're in a loud, busy environment. Hardly the most intimate of settings for a date with your sweetheart.

This is why I suggested finding something to do with just the two of them. Playing Pokemon over a link cable, or maybe just going out to get a late night bite to eat at Wendy's or McDonald's (but not Burger King or KFC, whatever you do). Finding subtle ways of being romantic like this is what girls really like.

265 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-02 08:42 ID:+d0+Zt9W

lol i dont know if she likes pokemon XD hmm if i keep talking to her everyday will she get annoyed?? well at the moment doesn't seem like it but i'm kinda running out of thigns to talk about, but then again shes doing hw so thats why we dont have much to talk about. also would it be weird if i called her on the phone? i'm afraid i might go speechless which isn't good ~~" last time i called her she just giggled alot.

266 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 09:23 ID:nNB2iArO

>>264

LOL! Ok, keep posting you clown.

>>265

Benson you must understand that the poster of >>264 is not being serious. It's like the Steyr AUG guy.

I think it's pretty clear that Lyss likes you though. And don't worry about talking so much, the important thing is that it's clear that you want to spend time with her, so it doesn't have to be interesting. If she likes you, she will appriciate that you're spending time with her more than what you're actually doing. I assure you, do not worry. If you know that, then it should be easier to hang out and communicate too.

267 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 11:51 ID:Heaven

>>260
That's the thing. I don't think you actually have a point.

268 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-02 14:49 ID:+d0+Zt9W

well today when i was talking to lyss, she only replied in one words then said "sorry for my infrequent answers~ i'm tring to stop procrastinating and finishing my essay" so i said if she needs any help but shes like nahh its fine. so i said "if you need any help feel free to ask! lol i better no disturb you" so shes like "wahh sorrry!" so i said "haha its fine, do you essay, Ganbatte!!("you can do it" in japanaese)" and shes like "haiiii (yess) I'll do my best!"

hmm i dont know if she likes me but its a bit early to say that now....but maybe shes just intrested in me... no idea!~~"
oh yea if i do talk to her on the phone, i cant be speechless right? cos it'll just make her bored, hmm i rarely called girls before, only did it 2 times....

269 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 15:24 ID:nNB2iArO

>>268

Well if you're on the phone you obviously need to talk.

270 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 19:33 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>268
She sounds interested to me.

271 Name: 245 : 2006-09-02 21:35 ID:Vdx2nBgR

>>266
>>267

I think I've gotten my points across quite clearly, actually, but I'll lay them out once more. Basically, they are the following:

  1. Getting together on a one-on-one basis will trump a get-together in some noisy, crowded environment any day.
  2. Finding subtle ways of being romantic is what girls really like, which is why something as simple as getting a private booth at Wendy's will net you points in her book.

272 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-02 22:10 ID:5C9nkvMQ

>>271
i like that you kept it serious until the awesome punchline at the end. but don't you think that maybe wendy's is a little highbrow? he really needs to take the chick to denny's or waffle house if he wants to impress her.

273 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-03 01:43 ID:+d0+Zt9W

well i was thinking since i finish school in a week, i'll ask her out and say that you can bring friends and i'll bring friends as well.... doesn't it usually start like that?! plus i may get rejected if i just ask her out like that. but it wont affect me that much if we have friends around does it?!!

274 Name: 245 : 2006-09-03 02:35 ID:tRPgN39v

>>doesn't it usually start like that?!

No. Getting together in a group is hardly intimate, and it greatly diminishes the amount of fun that you can have with her on a one-on-one basis, which is the number one thing I've been trying to get across here. Unless you're planning a Pokemon tournament and you want to show off to this girl by beating the crap out of everyone else, I'd advise against it. That is one of the few times I would ever support getting together in a group.

275 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-03 08:49 ID:+d0+Zt9W

i was talking to lyss this lunch time and some how my name made me look emo (stupid translator, its in japanese) and she asked me "your not emo are you?" so said "nah i dont cut my self lol", heres wat happened on the convo...

Lyss: some of my friends use to be, i think it was the mood swing
Benson:oooo... well i use to be a bit i think lol
Lyss:emo?
Benson: well not emo...but dark
Lyss:i was emo at one stage too
Benson:lol
Lyss: something depressing happened? *pats as long as your not emo now =D
Benson:lol thanks!~ but it was a long long time ago anyway XD
Lyss: lalalalala, lets all watch anime and be happppyy!
Benson: hahah YeAH!! lol i made someone cry once when i told them about my dark past.
Lyss:...ouch, it must've been pretty bad.
Benson: yeah it was, went for about 2 years
Lyss:..what happened? if you dont mind ><

i was gonna tell her but she had to go to reheseral for her school concert. about late afternoon, she started talking to me!~ well i gotta wait for her cos shes gone to eat dinner. looks like its going well

276 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-03 11:44 ID:Heaven

>>274
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I got the distinct impression we were talking about whether our Benson friend here should go to his ball. One of the reasons being that he could create an opportunity to catch up with Lyss. Girls like a little dress and impress once in a while. Of course a one on one date would be a better scenario, however there are many more other days to do that rather than on his formal night.

@Benson: Lyss sounds like a real ditz but she complements you nicely.

277 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-03 13:34 ID:+d0+Zt9W

>>276 she sounds ditz?!! how?!

anyway i told lyss about my past and she gave me alot of this *pat icon and hug icons. shes really nice, she told me not to be like again. i think i gained her trust cos she told me that she sometimes argues with her mum and that if she went through wat i went through she would have died ~~" well i'm gonna talk to her more and hopefully it goes well this friday!

278 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-03 14:32 ID:Heaven

>>277
Enjoy your new female friend.

279 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-03 15:43 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>277
You took a big risk sharing that information so early. You could be on your way to the Friend Zone now.

280 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-03 16:55 ID:Heaven

>>279
Who are you kidding? He's already there.

281 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 02:34 ID:NzxDNTNq

benson just ask her out 1 on 1, ask her out with friends may make her believe you want her as friend too, and that is the last thing you need.

just ask her to hang out, please no mcdonalds. all of the mcdonald's ive been to are shitholes. if you are going to ask her out to eat just nice, small, UNIQUE restaurant.

282 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 04:15 ID:nNB2iArO

>>279

If you can't make your way to the couple zone from the friend zone she isn't worth shit anyway.

If you actually believe in the girl and yourself and are hoping to build something lasting, initial honesty won't hurt anything, but if you think or actually know you need to work her with tricks she's just another hoe and you're just another player.

283 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-04 05:45 ID:gDEVaHfA

I'm a guy who also has a penpal! 7 to be exact! But there's only one who would take the time to talk to me everyday! She's from China and will soon to move to Australi and someday I have hopes of seeing her. So I say GO FOR IT!

284 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 05:51 ID:5C9nkvMQ

you sound friendzoned, dude. the one thing you can really trust a board like this on is whether or not you are friendzoned because that shit is a daily occurrence for most of us.

285 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-04 08:19 ID:+d0+Zt9W

crapp... seems like i did the wrong move.... ok say i ask her out 1-1 like to hang out, and she rejects it so what do i do next?? it would make it obviouse that i prob like her if i ask her out. well i didn't want to tell her those stuff this early... she kept on asking me, was i suppose to say "sozz its private" ??

well i was talking to my friend about the "going out" bit... he said ask her what shes doing for the holidays and if she says she doing nothing, ask her if she wants to go for a movie or just hang out. hmm mayb i could do that..... btw any suggestion for the coming friday?? cos i'm gonna see her at badminton with 4 other girls ~~"

286 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 08:49 ID:nNB2iArO

>>285

Don't listen to them this friendzone talk is bullshit. I friendzone girls all the time, i.e. I tell them everything and treat them like the closest of my friends. Doesn't stop them from eventually climbing all over my dick. In fact, pretty much every last girl I've befriended have somehow ended up wanting a piece of me, I don't even push it.

Just be yourself completely and don't try to be something you're not to appeal to her. Thats why these guys get stuffed in the aquintance but no further-pocket, they have these ideas about what they think girls want them to be and act like that instead of being frank. That deprives them of every interesting aspect they might have had.

287 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-04 09:19 ID:+d0+Zt9W

>>286 well luckily i'm always my self cos i know girls dont like guys acting some one else... i really want to call her but.. something just makes me stop~~"

288 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-04 12:36 ID:+d0+Zt9W

ok guys... i sms lyss tonite about her DVD i am giving her and i accidently called her so she told me shes at reheasal, i was like "omgg sorry! *hits head i had no idea, ganbatte (good luck, you can do it in japanese) in reheasal!" and shes like " aaaaawwwwwwww ^O^ TY!!!! TYTYTYTYTYTYTY!!!!"

then later on like 10 mins ago, i'm talking to lyss right now actuali... well i apologized for calling her at reheasal... this is wat happened

Benson: so sorry about calling u!
Lyss: its ok! i had my phone on silence anyway ^^
Benson: crap... suddenly started coughing
Lyss: OOMMGGG, DONT DIE!!! NNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!
Benson: hahahah I'm not dying! xD
Lyss: Thank GOD!!!
Benson: ohh btww i got ur dvd ready, also made a cover for u!
Lyss: aaaaaawwwwww, TY!! dont need to bother with the cover....
Benson: Dww i done it alrdy ^^

well anyway.. i asked her what shes doing on the holidays and shes like "i got work exp... WHHYY!!!~~" but i just said "nothing just wondeirng". then i ask her where shes going for work exp and she said shes going to the vet, then she tells me her problem with socializing with people and is so similar to me. so i'm like "dww it will be fine! just try and make conversation when your there and ask alot of questions" so shes like "ahh TY!!~". well i'm stil talking to her!~ she seems to enjoy talking to me now! i think i'm over the friend zone!~

289 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 12:50 ID:ftaUl2Xe

If she is socially inept, then the rules of the friend zone might not apply, of course you can still be had by another guy swooping in from the shadows and blowing your opportunity, so yeah, start spending some time with her.

>>Just be yourself completely and don't try to be something you're not to appeal to her. Thats why these guys get stuffed in the aquintance but no further-pocket, they have these ideas about what they think girls want them to be and act like that instead of being frank. That deprives them of every interesting aspect they might have had.

Honesty has made nearly all women run the fuck away from me in Looney Tunes fashion.

290 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-04 13:40 ID:+d0+Zt9W

>>289 well depends wat the girl was like.... cos i met a few whos done that to me as well, they thought i was some kind of looser or something ~~" well i am confirmed that Lyss will go to badminton!! my god i cant wait alrdy!

291 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 16:45 ID:a+9cf3FP

You should just give up. This one is lost. Better luck next time!

292 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-04 17:07 ID:nNB2iArO

>>Honesty has made nearly all women run the fuck away from me in Looney Tunes fashion.

Well look I'm not saying that any shithead will be appealing with the honesty approach. Nor am I saying that all women are interested in a sincere relationship. If they are not, they well be like "fuck this guy means business better stay clear".

I don't know how your situation is, either case you still have to be a good guy going for a good woman for my advice to be of value.

293 Name: 245 : 2006-09-04 21:12 ID:5mmkJSJZ

Benson, you still haven't told us what her favorite pokemon is. Are you intentionally witholding that information because you think it will make her look bad? Does she like Sunflora?

I hope she likes Gardevoir.

294 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 03:45 ID:Heaven

>>293

He actually said she doesn't like Pokemon. Chances are then, she also does not have a favourite.

295 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 11:38 ID:JLbFrcRD

>>277
Not to sound bitchy or anything, but this girl is a blatant ditz. I haven't even met her but I can already imagine what she must be like from the really good notes you make from your phone calls =P. Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against it, alot of asian girls are typically like that and guys dig it apparently. The good thing here is that you are so much like her. Be careful that you're not getting played though (if getting refused on a one on one date says anything to you).

296 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 12:03 ID:ftaUl2Xe

>>Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against it, alot of asian girls are typically like that and guys dig it apparently.

This trait is not exclusive to Asians.

297 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 12:34 ID:Heaven

>>295

>>Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against it

Sure sounds like it

298 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 13:34 ID:JLbFrcRD

>>296
I'm not saying it is. It's just a reference because we're talking about an asian girl here. However, I'm asian myself, and I can say that if you've hung around enough asian girls you will find that a scary number of them are beyond a normal level of ditziness.

>>297

>>Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against them

299 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-05 14:22 ID:+d0+Zt9W

>>291 hmm i dont see how i am lost....

well today i had this concert so we didn't have school for the whole day, just hanged around the city. well i sms her around noon saying "hey how was the swimming competition?! lol i got a concert tonite!" and she replied "it was ok! XD so THATS why you weren't on msn! have fun lol!"

i was talkinmg to my friend who knows her, he says she the cute type (looks not personality) oh and apparently shes shy as well when it comes to talking to new people, we seem to have the same personality and intrestso its all good to me. well depends how i show my self this friday....

300 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 15:45 ID:UXOt+hhz

what are you going to do friday?

301 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 16:38 ID:Heaven

>>299 hmm i dont see how i am lost....
You will. Just wait..

302 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-05 18:22 ID:Heaven

ITT we pretend to know what we're talking about

303 Name: 245 : 2006-09-05 19:53 ID:a86km9Ob

>>294

No, he didn't say that she dislikes Pokemon. He said that he doesn't know whether or not she likes it, which means he hasn't asked her yet.

304 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-06 06:59 ID:+d0+Zt9W

>>301 hmm okk... i dont give up easily as you can tell from this thread...

well i'm going to the badminton place on friday night and shes gonna be there. i heard shes really good at badminton and i cant play. well so far i made this dvd for her with a cover on it which i hope she likes....any suggestions for friday?? i really need it!! i'm getting all hypo about it just by thinking about it...

damn tired.... the concert went so late i had very little sleep... damn school making us go in the morning

305 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-06 12:04 ID:Heaven

I would love to see the look on this girl's face when she finds this thread.

306 Name: 245 : 2006-09-06 20:34 ID:mOTDokvG

>>304

That's good. I assume you're going to be playing with her one-on-one, right? It's not a group thing, is it? In any case, that DVD may turn out to be a nice move, so good job. If you get a chance to go out for something to eat after you play, remember what I told you earlier: McDonald's, Wendy's, and Taco Bell are good; Burger King and KFC are not.

Also, I think you need to stop running away from the important issue of finding out which pokemon is her favorite. This is a crucial piece of information, and it will allow us to better evaluate her character. Good luck.

307 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-06 23:01 ID:gDEVaHfA

>>306
Dude! McDonalds? Wendy's? KFC?!! WTF are you talking about man! Bring her to a place not to fancy and NOT a fast food joint. After that take her out on a walk by the park or ocean and talk! That would be really thoughtful.

308 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-07 01:27 ID:UXOt+hhz

Dude McDonalds and Wendy's are perfectly acceptable. Nothing show you care about a girl than buying her something off the dollar/value menu.

309 Name: 245 : 2006-09-07 03:48 ID:mOTDokvG

>>307

I said not KFC. Anyway, the reason why getting a private booth at these places is recommended is because it's a small gesture of romance that you're showing to the girl. Small gestures net you way more points in her book than large, overly flashy ones. This is important. Capitalizing on this point is the way to win a girl's heart.

Taking her out to Wendy's, opening her ketchup packet for her, and dumping the tray into the garbage when you're finished alone will leave a big impression on your date. It's understandable if you think this sort of thing is contrary to reason, but that's females for you. Just trust me on this.

310 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-07 13:01 ID:+d0+Zt9W

something really good/bad just happened, apparently lyss reckons i like her now because my family friend told everyone at her school about it (they go to the same school). firstly i didn't tell her i like lyss, she just figured it out her self i think.... welll the good thing is lyss is still talking to me as usual. apparently she found out on tuesday, the day of my concert... well nothing bad is going on but i thought that she might be freaked or something and stop talking to me, seems not that way. well i will see her tomorow! i really hope i can ask her out like you guys suggested!~ btw i think Wendy's would be nice, since its ice cream lol

311 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-07 13:45 ID:Heaven

>>309
Okay, despite your Pokemon fetish it seems like you might know a little bit about girls after all.

312 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-07 18:53 ID:Heaven

Don't encourage the idiots.

313 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-08 08:58 ID:+d0+Zt9W

ok guys.... I'm going to the badminton place now... wish me luck~!

314 Name: TEENAGER : 2006-09-08 11:26 ID:l4Y36V9N

>>313
Show those girls some REAL badminton, boy.

315 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-08 18:57 ID:UXOt+hhz

Don't bang her with your shuttle COCK HahAHAHAHAHA....

I'm so lonely...

316 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-08 20:37 ID:m9Igc8Kr

I wonder if he blew it or not.

317 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-09 01:30 ID:1OkKootl

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318 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-09 04:32 ID:kOPnN1s+

well.... i must say.... i think i blew it up last nite but then again not really....man...lyss is soo cuttee!~~ well this is what happened

i told 4 friends to come with me on that night cos i thought mayb i wont be so shy if i have some friends around to suppot. well we all got thier but apparently only members are allowed to play and my friends aint any members, that counter guy is such a bastard, we asked if we can just watch but his like "no u must be a member, its insurance blah blah blah" so my family friend (the girl who told lyss i like her) dragged lyss to meet me and i gave her the dvd. she looked really happy with it and kept on saying thank u. my friends kept on telling me to go in and play but i felt bad leaving them behind thier watching since i was the one who dragged them there. so i decided to go with my friends and we end up at his house.

yeahh i know i blew it up but lyss was pretty happy about the DVD plus i printed a cover on it.

well i was talking to her today and aplogized about last nite leaving with out a word and explained wat happened. she said it was fine (btw she gave me a anime dvd as well last nite and didn't give me the 2nd season soo...) then she said she said "btw how can i give u the rest of the dvd?" so i was like "hmm not sure", she said she was gonna give it to one of my friends at badminton but then i said "hm i'll be around the school area some time this week, mayb we can just meet somewhere and u can give it to me there" and she said "oh, ok! but tell me when not sure when i will be at home xD" soo i'm gonna meet her this week just the two of us.... my god!~ and i thought i stuffed it up last nite (which i did). well she said she had to go walk the dog so she said she will talk to me later cos going for a walk with her friend (dunnno if its a dog cos she suddenly said her grandmother left her dog at her house~~") well..... any suggestions for that meeting?!!!

319 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-09 13:24 ID:kOPnN1s+

its a date now i think..... cos we arranged to meet at the train station.... btw i accidently asked if she eva had a bf and apparently she hasn't.... she asked me why and i said just wondering, she went a little "....." but we're stil talking. i cannot stuff up on wednsday!

320 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-09 13:37 ID:nNB2iArO

>>319

lol she gave you only the first season, eh? Might be something behind that.

321 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-09 14:37 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>320 r u seriouse?! theres this intresting convo that happaned today.... we were talking about my family friend that goes to her school and i was saying how she use to spread rumours about me liking this other girl, lyss was like "omg... wow, GO BENSON!" and i said "nonooo i didn't, she made it up" and she was like ".......,you can tell me if you did y'know ;("
so i said "yeahh i know!" and she said "telll meee =D" and apparently she knows about aya.... she said she read it on my forums (not 4ch obviously) and i kinda noticed she didn't talk as much as usual....but she stil gives me the smiley and patting icon lol! i was thinking of taking her to a nice cafe around the station, wat do u think??

322 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-09 16:04 ID:gDEVaHfA

WOW! I just read the whole thread and I've seen a lot of improvement from you! You posted this thread cause you wanted to get to know Aya more and know it's cause you need help with Lyss! Man, I hope your life turns out great! Oh and do you still talk to Aya? Cause the reason she disappears is because of all the teast and studying they do! I have penpals in China, Korea, and Japan and they're doing it to! So how old Aya anyway? It would be nice to get to know another japanese person.

323 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-09 18:53 ID:Heaven

>>321
>>r u seriouse?!

Well heck I don't know, maybe it is.. At any rate it did mean you had to meet so you could get the 2nd season from her.

324 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-09 23:46 ID:Heaven

>>321

>>she said she read it on my forums (not 4ch obviously)...

From a girl's perpective, finding out that a guy posts his love problems on the net is freaky. It gives the impression that you're ultra sensitive. Sure, alot of people do it, but know one really talks about it IRL.

Other than that you seem to be managing with Lyss really well.

325 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-10 02:34 ID:ojfgc5N7

KILL

326 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-10 03:32 ID:kOPnN1s+

well aya hasn't replied me for... 2 months now i think. i dont mind stil having contact with aya cos its good to stay good friends stil. Aya is 15 years old, turning 16 this year i think.

>>324 well the post i did on my forums wasn't like these ones on 4CH, its more like "i waited 4 months for one email reply! damn thats long" and all the people that post are my friends lol. i realized on the day i have to stop being so shy cos that will just ruin everything. i'm pretty surprised how similar we are.... never had a relationship, both really shy infront of people we dont know, love watching anime ect and shes a really nice person as well.i'm also surprised how well this is going cos usualy i just blew it up within 2 weeks lol! well hope it goes well this time

327 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-10 07:43 ID:YEt7MHlH

>>Other than that you seem to be managing with Lyss really well.

Perhaps, aside from the fact that he still hasn't inquired about her favorite pokemon. Seriously, is he that worried about it being a bad choice? Perhaps she likes Luvdisc?

328 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-10 10:58 ID:Heaven

>>327
Nah I'm thinking Jigglypuff.

329 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-10 11:05 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>327 lol i'm afaird if i ask her wat fav pokemon is, she mite think i am some pokemon maniac~~"

330 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-10 15:28 ID:gDEVaHfA

Hey! If your a maniac of some time such as Poke'mon or Yugioh! It's okay! If she can't accept the fact that you are who you are then she's probably not the your looking for.

331 Name: 245 : 2006-09-10 20:34 ID:c+vAn0jt

>>330

Speaking of Yu-Gi-Oh, I like making wind decks. It's a fairly underrepresented and undersupported element when you compare it with things like Dark or Water, but it has some very excellent monsters.

332 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-10 23:40 ID:Heaven

>>331

Freak.

333 Name: 245 : 2006-09-10 23:44 ID:c+vAn0jt

Anyway, I'm not suggesting that he talk to her about Yu-Gi-Oh cards (just yet), because that's fairly hardcore compared to Pokemon. Pokemon is somewhat more accepted, and ever people that don't like it much can have a favorite monster, and that can tell you a lot about the person's personality.

334 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-11 00:37 ID:kOPnN1s+

ahh i see, well i will try and ask her lol!~ prob a cute type pokemon i think

335 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-11 00:58 ID:Heaven

No, don't listen to him. You can ask her sometime if you really want to, but this might be too early on. Let your relationship cement first.

336 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-11 02:58 ID:UXOt+hhz

see if she like guns?

337 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-11 10:48 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>336 i doubt she likes guns LOL!
lyss doesn't seem to talk that much as usual now..and for some reason she sounds kinda shyish on msn~~" we were arranging the times to meet and something came up...

Lyss:waiit.... some how i need to organize with my friend for a walk. so i can meet u without my dad knowing..ok
Benson: oooo ok~
Lyss: Um... ok >< problem is that...i'll probably go out for lunch with dad, mums in china and brothers in uni so i'm not sure if i can make it on time..T_T
Benson: ahh actualli...tell me when you can get thier, cos i'll be thier this whole afternoon, so when your gonna go thier just give me a message or something.
Lyss:....you're just hanging around thier? for what?
Benson: need to buy a stupid gift for a friend so i'll be walking around that area.
Lyss:lol! ok!
Benson:yeah that should make it easier~~"
Lyss:coolies! =D ty!!~
Benson ^^
Lyss: ...when are you gonna be there untill??
Benson: i'll be thier the whole afternoon, cos i got a piano lesson at 5
Lyss: oohhh i see!

i'm a little speechless latley.... but it still looks good~~" btw apparently she use to like a friend of mine from school who is a type of person that is a attention seeker, has bad breathe and kinda... hard to explain, his like those type of person who you think that no girls will like him... so when i heard that i'm like "OMG r u serious?!" and she also just gave up someone she liked for 7 months a week ago.... well i really dont know if this is going good or not... depends on wednday

338 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-12 14:12 ID:kOPnN1s+

okkk i just had the best convo i had so far with lyss!!~well i asked her how much hw she has for the holidays and apparently she has alot.... so i said "if you ever need any help feel free to ask me cos thats alot of hw" and she said "TY!!!~~~" anway... ok about 2 days ago, i made up this name in japanese on my msn.. today when i talk to lyss she asked me about the name...

Lyss:....something pulling me to kurayami...to dark gloomy place...darkness?
Benson: huh?
Lyss: ur name
Benson: oh!~
Lyss:who is that? -_-
Bennson: uummmm.....
Lyss: is it you?
Benson: yeah~~"
Lyss:why did u type that in? what happaned?
Benson: well nothing really happaned..butt
Lyss:what happened?!?!?!?!?! telll meez ><
Benson: well i just the feeling i had before i was dark
Lyss: why??!! nnnooo!! *smack dont be emo!!
Benson:nonono
Lyss: its bad for you!
Benson: I'm not turning emo lol
Lyss: it SOUNDS emo!! geez
Benson: zomg really?!
Lyss: stop the darkness stuff, its really bad for you!
Benson; i have!
Lyss: really..then why you type that in?! and get it OFF your nickname!! omfg! put on something happy! DONT BE EMO!! ><
Benson: wowww
Lyss: its bad for you!! nnnnoooooo!! ><
Benson: lol i'm not turning emo, jus this feeling i had, just felt weird
Lyss: like... emo weird? get rid of the feeling! ><
Benson: i know why but...
Lyss: why? >< why are you turning emo?!
Benson: your gonna think i'm weird, zomg i'm not! this isn't even emo!
Lyss: lol it sounds like it, go on tell me!
Benson: omg you havn't even seen me turn dark
lyss: even NOW you sound emo
Benson: zomg really?!
Lyss: here have some light! (does this light bulb icon 3 times)
Benson: lol thanks!
Lyss: anyway tell me what happened
Benson: okk well its just i had this weird dream latley
Lyss: like??
Benson: my brother and my dad... were killed
Lyss: wahhh, no wonder your turning emo....
Benson: and it felt really real, in my dreams i even had this memory of them when they died... it just felt like my self in the past again
Lyss: *pats(its an icon) wahhh dont, thats bad!
Benson: well what i'm afraid is that... in year 4, i had a dream about my dog dying, in a week it was killed by a car...
Lyss: T_T my god.... thats kinda freaky
Benson: i know... so weird.... but i doubt its gonna happen cos... to be honest this isn't the first time... i had a dream of my dad dying in hospital but nothing happaned and plus it doesn't make sense cos my parents are over seas and my brother is living with me now.
Lyss: just....be wary...and dont be emo...
Benson: ddww i'll be fine by tomorrow
Lyss: hopefully...:(
Benson: Sorry if i scareed you
Lyss: i wasn't scared, I'm just worried about you ><
Benson: lol dont need to, i'll be fine~~"
Lyss: eat chocolate! it'll make u happy!!
Benson: serious i'm fine! dont worry about it!
Lyss: aaaawww *pat
Benson: lol thanks!
Lyss: *pat *pat i think you need it *pat *showering you with comfort ...and light (does all these sun and light bulb icons)
Benson:hahahaha , your a really nice person! seriously i'll be fine
Lyss: have more light! *light icon
Benson:lol getting a little bright here
lyss: nnoo! its GOOD!! HAVE MORE LIGHT! (then does this sun icon) actuali sun light is better....
Benson: lol thanks for the light!~

well anyway... she keeps sending me these light icons like a flashy light, sun, light bulb ect.... I'm meeting her tomorrow, getting all nervouse noww~~" okk heres what i planned..... if she has to go home i'll say "hey i'll walk you home!", if shes not doing anything i'll ask her if she can help my find a gift for my friends birthday which is the day after tomorow, if she agrees we'll walk around the area and prob take her to a nice cafe or something! what do you guys think?!!

339 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-12 14:36 ID:Heaven

funny how you guys throw the word "emo" around alot.
zomg! you're asian and u have black hair....EMO!
shallow conversations, but at least you're getting somewhere.

340 Name: TEENAGER : 2006-09-12 16:34 ID:J0B8iV1P

GO FORTH, TEENAGER!

341 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-12 18:08 ID:UXOt+hhz

You played that quite well

342 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-13 14:31 ID:Heaven

WHY IS YOUR NAME 電影男? PLEASE ANSWER ME IMMEDIATELY

343 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-13 16:59 ID:cOOOfiGm

The moral of this story is don't be emo!

344 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-14 02:46 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>342 lol i'm using 電影男 cos i'm addicted to movies and movie making, also alot of people been calling me that latley~~''

annyywayy yesterday i was suppose to meet lyss, i was having lunch with some friends when i got a message from her and it said....
"omg benson, i'm so sorry!! i dont think i can make it today cos dad is being really tite!! i'll send you the codex ok? i'm really sorry!!! T_T"
well i must say i was a little disappointed cos everytime when i go out with a girl, something will happen in a bad way. i was thinking mayb she made that up or something but apparently it was true, her dad is really tite cos i asked my friend about it after and they told me her dad is so tite that shes not suppose to be on msn at all... so i told her it was ok and said how do i give you the dvd? then she replied
"how do i give you the rest as well?>< work out something later on msn? sorry again!!"

well i got home at night and talked to her, again she kept on saying sorry and stuff. she seemed to be stressed from all the hw she had so i just told her that is she needs any help just tell me. also....for some reason she called me big brother in chinese like "yes gege(big brother in chinese)" when i said "gotta focus!!" hmm i hope she doesn't think me as a brother~~" well i'm hopinh to try and talk to her on the phone now, gonna call her sometime today if possible to arrange another time to meet.

345 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-14 02:53 ID:Heaven

BUT 電影男 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MOVIES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

346 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-14 04:12 ID:gDEVaHfA

Wow! Benson. I've been through that many times!Trying to talk with a girl and then she just blows you off with an excuse. All the excuses I 've gotten were, "I'm helping my mom cook, I'm baking a cake, My mom needs me, My mom's calling me downstairs, I have to eat......." Everytime we talk there's always an excuse! The only time when she didn't have one was when she didn't know me on AIM cause I was known as Spider-Man to her for 3 hours! When I revealed who I was, she kept asking If I was joking about being TokyoJapan22! Well, since then I haven't spoken to her at all.

347 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-14 05:58 ID:Heaven

how old are you guys... seriously...

348 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-14 14:13 ID:Heaven

>>346
And you can't accuse them of lying either, cause then you look like an asshole and blow your chances completely.

349 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-14 15:43 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>345 電影男 means movie man and like i said alot of people call me that latley at school and stuff

>>346 i know what you mean, everytime i have a date with a girl or something, they will either blow me off on the day or something naturallly bad happens.... i guess its just my luck. but i dont think lyss blew me off cos he dad really is tight. cos if she did blew me off, why would she want to arrange another time to meet so i dont think she blew me off. well i didn't talk to lyss today cos she seemed really busy with hw~ i just realized my god brother in Taiwan is about to release his album by Sony, his name is evanyo! so surprised XD

350 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-14 19:48 ID:Heaven

>>349 電影男 means movie man
WHY MUST YOU LIE TO ME IN SUCH A BLATANT MANNER?

351 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-15 01:50 ID:Heaven

Yeah sorry to break it to you dude (ok not really it's kind of funny), but it doesn't mean movie man. 映画男 would be what you are looking for. How do you even pronounce 電影男? Den kage otoko?

352 Name: 電影男 : 2006-09-15 04:01 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>351 ahh well it means movie man in chinese, soz for the misunderstanding but i think 電影男 is Eiga Otoko

353 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-15 05:52 ID:Heaven

映画男 is eiga otoko

354 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-15 10:58 ID:Heaven

>>350
i want to know the truth too

355 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-15 11:55 ID:kOPnN1s+

sorry for my misunderstanding!~ i just directly translated from chinese. but does eiga otoko mean movie man??

btw i didn't talk to lyss today, i had some friends over and she still seems to be busy working....

>>350 lied to you?!!

356 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-15 14:22 ID:Heaven

>>351

Did you ever think that maybe the Japanese and Chinese didn't use the same exact characters for this term?

357 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-15 18:06 ID:5C9nkvMQ

and now we learn where hong kong anime subtitles come from

358 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-16 01:10 ID:Heaven

>>357 /love/ ?

359 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-16 11:42 ID:kOPnN1s+

lol i did the stupidest thing today, i had 2 friends over last nite and today we found these handcuffs, i thought i had the key so i pranked them and handcuffed my self when i found out it wasn't the key. we spent about 3 hours trying to find the real key and trying to get it off. i told lyss about it and she just laughed at me lol and now her msn name says "hahaha bensons kinky XD" well luckily i figured out how to break the handcuffs... anyway i wanna ask you guys something, as many of you know that lyss knows i like her cos my family friend told her, i was about to ask my family friend why she told lyss i like her but then i thought its better not saying it cos she might tell lyss that i knwo that she knows i like her..... this family friend is a little problem for me, shes been telling her friends how mean i am to her when i was just joking around...mayb too much that night... and not to mention i helped her alot before with hw and some problems... she use to have a crush on me which was really troublesome.. what should i do?

360 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-16 15:04 ID:Heaven

i wonder how long it will take him to confess

361 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-18 01:21 ID:kOPnN1s+

eh what does it mean when a girl says that she doesn't normaly starts convos with people on msn but has started 2 convos with you and says you should feel special about it.. btw this isn't lyss. i didn't talk much with lyss yesterday and she has work experience today, btw the girl who said the special thingy is called manda and i use to like her. i've talked to manda for a long time and we're like really good friends.

362 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-09-18 02:30 ID:04D4KQaL

I'll be frank, Benson. Try to live your youth without worries. Because surely, you're living a golden age that won't come back, and be there good or bad memories, try to live them all and in your best disposition. To sum it up, >>360. All your good (girl)friends are in an unstable yet powerfully attractive age. It's all new for them as much as it is for you (relatively). Girls will much more likely be attracted to secure guys. (Let me be redundant, confidence, not assholeness.) Girls seem much less pressured into relationships because it's their specialty. They are taught to understand relationships at a young age, be more open, talkative, and experienced in dealing with people (women are by nature more communicative than men, because long ago, women would spend time communicating among themselves. Gossip is part of women's evolution. Men, on the other hand, are less verbal because evolution required us, hunters, to be absolutely silent during hunt. Physical contact and body motions are our way of communicating). So do not be uncomfortable for not knowing what some phrases or expressions mean. You were never taught that. Try to communicate to women in their language. Practice makes perfection.
Do create a healthy habit of practicing your moves beforehand. Learn how to approach and start interesting and romantic topics by training alone. Out loud. Maybe even record and listen to yourself. Practice makes perfection.

363 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-18 11:38 ID:WK6j8V3X

>>361
Lol..if she's anything like me then she doesn't mean anything by it. Alot of people do that, guys as well as girls. I don't tend to start conversations with people either, so I can tell you that you shouldn't read anything more into it, other than the fact she wanted to talk to you at that time. You don't expect people to take it seriously you know?

364 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-18 16:00 ID:kOPnN1s+

>>362 it is true, i think i worry to much even with small things around me. this manda girl seems to be intrested in me cos shes been talking alot latley....like telling me alot of stuff like how her mum was murming bad stuff about her becasue she got her ear pierce.

i think i have this problem that i think too much, maybe small stuff like the special thing makes me think that someone is intrested in me or something or mayb i am just too sensative... eh...for some reason i've got lyss and manda in my head now...well its cos... 45 mins ago, my house had this odd banging noise and my older brother thought there mite be someone in the house so we had like weapons in our hands and checked around the house, my brother made me and his gf stay in this small room and he went to check around. while i was sitting in the room i was thinking "if something really did happen..." when suddenly lyss and manda both poped in my head... i was also thinking "should i tell lyss i like her if something did happen...mayb my last words" (i know i shouldn't be thinking that at a time like that!) luckily there was nothing and we double checked everywhere to be sure. so when i got back to my room i was thinking "why was i thinking that?!" thats why i reckon that i think too much.

also... say if manda did like me... what do i do?! shes a really nice girl and pretty cute as well... i would feel really bad if i just rejected her like that..so confusing~~"

btw i sms lyss saying "hey how was work exp?" but i got no reply...

365 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-19 00:49 ID:gDEVaHfA

Wow! that's really a bummer. I happen to like a girl, but then I also have some other girls I think I like as well. Only that one of them makes me feel really nervous and jumpy inside. The others I only find as friend's or really cute girls. Problem is, I actually get to know them really well, I wonder if my impression of them wil change.

366 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-19 02:42 ID:EAoF7GtE

>>my brother made me and his gf stay in this small room

And you let this chance slip by. You could have added her to your ever-expanding harem.

Come on, man-- eyes on the prize.

367 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-19 15:27 ID:+YNBfTD8

>>366 um... nah its a bit wrong...~~"

funny thing is i was talking to manda on the phone for 56 mins, talked to lyss on msn and she told me to stay happy cos she thinks i've gone "emo" again lol. well tomorow i decide to call lyss, i think i am slowly getting better at this. when i use to be on the phone i would be really speechless but tonite me and manda were talking alot for 56mins! her battery ran off at the end so she sms me about it lol! i seem to be doing pretty good with manda and lyss atm!~

368 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-09-19 18:07 ID:1ptlw5zs

I want you to go ahead and try one of them. Don't let time pass. It's normal to feel attracted to more than one at a time, but you shouldn't necessarily hit on the one you like the best. Try going out with the one you think you could have a closer or closest relationship. By going out I mean DATE. Go out and DATE HER.
I want you to ask her out, come back here and give some results.

369 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-19 20:05 ID:0YpV2Mra

Do you happen to know what this "Manda" girl's favorite pokemon is?

370 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-19 22:17 ID:tWyO81YG

lol.

I thought this thread was totally going nowhere until I saw >>355.

Anyways, if you don't speak Japanese, prepare to be rejected.

371 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-20 05:06 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>368 hmm i mite try and ask manda... seems more possible that she would go.

i'm not doing well with lyss right now actuali, she doesn't realy talk much now on msn. i'm actuali talking more to manda now, but what i'm afraid is that most of her friends know i like lyss and stuff but if i suddenly say i like manda which her friends know as well, they are gonna think i'm some sort of player....weird thing is i talk more to manda now. well i will ask manda out next week cos her birthday is right after the holidays, mayb get her a small gift or something!~

372 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-20 11:54 ID:Heaven

well. if manda has even the slightest more intelligence than lyss, then go for manda definitely. i am seriously tired of airy fairy girls like lyss. but that it probably because i don't like the idea of being told by other people that i should be HApPieeEE~~~!! 24/7 or else be considered an emo.

373 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-20 15:37 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>372 lol true, she thinks i'm turning emo again!

yeahh i think i'll go for manda now.... *sigh all that hard work gone..... mayb just time out with lyss for a while cos at the moment shes not really talking to me.

btw if i ask manda out, what do i say?!!

374 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-20 15:53 ID:Heaven

"Hey baby, you got a light?"

375 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-20 21:46 ID:1ptlw5zs

By the way, Benson, men should type with complete sentences, and proper spelling. Don't use "actuali" or "mayb", it's girlish. Please correct yourself.

376 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-20 21:47 ID:1ptlw5zs

And use more phone and less MSN. It naturally tends to make your relationships more based on actual meetings, while keeping the phone as intermediary to get to meet. I've said this before already.

377 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-21 05:29 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>375 oh sorry about that, stupid msn made me type like that.

hmm so phone is better then msn, well i better go charge my pre paid phone cos i can get free minutes on it. my parents would kill me if they see the phone bills if i talk to her everyday.

378 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-21 05:30 ID:7ZGM0GIB

ohh btw i was thinking if i dont get the chance to give manda a small gift for her birthday, i was thinking maybe i can play the piano over the phone, is that a good idea?

379 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-21 09:23 ID:Heaven

do you know this girl well enough for buying her a gift to not be creepy?

380 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-21 13:07 ID:7ZGM0GIB

i know her for about 5 months now, we are pretty close friends and stuff. i tried to call her just then but no one is picking up, i try again later

381 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-21 14:20 ID:gmznT1/9

Just wondering, is your life all about trying to court girls? Cos this is one damn long thread. If I'm right, there's about 4 girls over 6 months that you devote all your time to, yet when it looks like you're gonna make a move, another one comes along and catches your eye (and you start all over again).

382 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-22 12:36 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>381 well for tthe first 4 months it was mostly about aya (the japanese girl) then everyone told me to move on and stuff, its either that i stuff up and start again or just keep trying cos it took me a while to get over Aya which she disappeared for a long time.

btw some crazy bastard flipped while driving my go-cart today and almost broke his arm... he was sent to the hospital, having a early birthday party today lol.

383 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-22 19:29 ID:1ptlw5zs

Play piano to her personally. Not over the phone, for her sake. And I meant to type like a man always, meaning on MSN as well.
Ask her out for dinner as a birthday present (doesn't have to be on the actual birth*day*). A kiss on a date is much more appropriate for a gift. You can ask her to close her eyes and stretch her hands, put your left hand over her eyes, your right hand you hand her any small gift, and then you can give her the "gift". If you try this, make sure you switch the purpose of your hands to hold the side of her head with the left hand (instead of keeping them over her eyes), and hold her hands with your right one (instead of holding the gift) as you kiss her.

384 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-22 21:44 ID:D3t+OVMc

>>383

That is probably the best way to kiss a girl. Wow, Mireille guy, you know your shit.

385 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-23 07:32 ID:Heaven

>>383
I'm all gooey inside..

386 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-23 14:21 ID:7ZGM0GIB

ok guys... for some reason i'm going out with lyss again instead of manda..lyss suddenly started talking to me again today on msn again and this time no more "....." she randomly came up to me and said this " Hmm, you sound happier! YAY! stay like that!" and i told her about the crazy guy who flipped my go-cart and said it was my responsible for his injuries and she tells me "its not your fault! your too hard on your self!" and shes really talkative today some reason.

but the problem here is... i really like both manda and lyss. i can talk to manda about anything and she wont be freaked about it and she seems to be intrested in me like i called her and she didn't pick up, she sms me telling she went to visit her brother at a place and went to a winery, left her phone in the hotel and should be back on monday. this is really confusing me...i really like both of them, i realized from the past 6 months i prob sound like a player since theres been 4 girls i talk about in this thread.

387 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-23 15:26 ID:Heaven

>>383
Tell us some more hypothetical situations.....like what benson should do on christmas day.

388 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-23 18:08 ID:04D4KQaL

Stop, stop, stop, and stop. Are you following ANYTHING that I'm writing you? Open your eyes, and notice, that I INSIST that you need to focus on one girl. When you are close to getting one girl, other girls notice your change in attitude and subconsciously become nicer to you. This is consistent with a guy or girl being suddenly approached by several potential partners at a time. Women are born with that instinct of knowing the timing for relationships, so if you don't take care of yourself, you will end up in failure. You want to get as close as possible and hook up a girl (as when you go fishing you hook a fish and it can't get away) to enjoy total freedom with her. You are NOT in that position, so you CANNOT go for both. Once you hook one fish, you take it out, put it in your bucket, THEN go for the other. If you don't and try catching a second fish, you'll lose both fish. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

389 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-23 18:27 ID:04D4KQaL

>>384 Far from being the best way to kiss a girl. There are surely better ways, just be creative. If you're a girl, and have been kissed like that, I accept the compliment. If you're a guy but have not tried my approach, I suggest you practice it with any girl you can, (if it's still way too hard to practice on your friends, you can practice it by yourself on your forearm or hand.) Until you tell me it worked will I accept your compliment. Heck, you can even use "practice" as an excuse to woo a second girl (As in Benson has hooked the first girl already and "innocently" uses her second friend as practice for the first).
Let me expand on >>383
Make sure to use reinforcing commands such as "keep your eyes closed," or "hold the present," while switching your hands around. This reinforces your position, and makes the kiss more submissive, (almost all girls like the submissive kiss, that is, the girl receiving, and the guy giving the kiss). (Some exceptions for this are women who like younger partners. They are usually on the aggressive side of the kiss, and personally, I like those kisses since they are much hotter, and become quickly erotic if the man is aggressive as well.)

390 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-24 02:55 ID:gmznT1/9

>>Make sure to use reinforcing commands such as "keep your eyes closed," or "hold the present," while switching your hands around. This reinforces your position, and makes the kiss more submissive, (almost all girls like the submissive kiss, that is, the girl receiving, and the guy giving the kiss).

Too true.

391 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-24 03:10 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>388 i know what you mean not to go for both, at the moment i am still going for lyss. ok so say if i dont get lyss then i go for manda, would that be better?! well i tried to pratice on what you said >>383 but i think i need more pratice.

well i will stay the same with manda at the moment as in good/close friends and try to get lyss. i'm seeing her this thursday around 2:00PM at the same place as last time. oh i was gonna give her this small gift and on that day i will tell her to close her eyes and put her hand out, then i'll put the gift into her hands and close them, it'll be a surprise, would that be good?

392 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-24 07:43 ID:04D4KQaL

If you're not man enough to kiss her in the mouth, do give her a kiss in the cheek. It's corny, but I guess it can't be helped until you practice a little more and overcome your shyness. This is the birthday girl, correct? (Remember that the actual gift is the kiss, not the object. Follow the kiss with a compliment. Maybe she'll hint you to give her another actual kiss.) Any man can get any girl. Stick with one until she's completely yours, and remember not to waver in your decision. Be creative and practice!

393 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-24 08:35 ID:Heaven

lol stalkers

394 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-25 03:18 ID:Heaven

>>393 I've got to admit Benson's fun. Such a meek guy with good potential, and thriving with opportunities. Wouldn't want to see him fail in becoming a Casanova and turn into one of those heterophobic self-pitying idiots.

395 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-25 15:15 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>394 haha thanks, your a great help here.

well i found out that lyss has someone she likes, dont know who the guy is. i found out from her friend when i was talking to her today on msn. but we're stil talking normaly, her friend told me to keep a little distance from her and that love changes ~~" this is getting rather confusing.. i really want to know what kind of guy she likes, i've been really nice to her and always support her in every way. well who knows, maybe love does change.

396 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-25 16:32 ID:Heaven

Benson is a natural loser. He will never succeed

397 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-25 17:12 ID:UXOt+hhz

well lyss is out. she likes someone else and dont worry about who it is, just know that she doesnt like you the way you like her. so now focus on manda and hopefully things will work out for the best.

398 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-25 21:11 ID:Heaven

No! Are you understanding what I'm writing at all? You don't care who he is and what he does! He is your competition, and there is no reason to give up on her just because she hints she might like someone else. You will go all the way with her until she's yours, or she dismisses you completely for the other guy. Otherwise, you will get dragged into a drama (I don't want to get into the details of the drama, but try to figure it out yourself.) Read the post I've written about this! (I forgot where the post is... I've gotta start logging and organizing these posts.)

399 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-25 22:59 ID:Heaven

Found the earlier post:
http://4-ch.net/love/kareha.pl/1159108280/3

>If you're a man, you will ask her out, meet and court her, and disregard the fact that she's seeing someone else.

400 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-26 06:03 ID:Heaven

>>395

Maybe Lyss tell her friend to tell you that she likes someone else?

Maybe because she doesn't want to tell you directly, plus she knows you like her, so she doesn't want to hurt you.

Why don't you say to her, you like her?

And ask her if she is willing to go out with you.

I think Lyss is the type who is not sure or undecided, and shes young, air-headed type who thinks she has lot of opportunities, confidence about herself being able to get many relationships easily. As you said yourself, she is cute. Thats it she is cute, she thinks alot guys will go for her because she knows she is cute. Generally Girls/women, in developed nations are picky and independant, they can choose whatever they want, and can easily be the players if they are cute. So you see, pretty, cute, girls are hard to get. They believe they have so many opportunities for better guys, they can jump onto other guys if they feel like it. Plus she seems like the girlish drama girls. Asian girls who are cute in developed countries think they are all great, most of them want white guys, even though they don't want to admit it.

Benson, she shouldn't be serious about relationships, you and the girls are so young. Don't expect too much out of it. Just play it through and see how it goes, don't make yourself depressed about it. think of it as some light-hearted game. if you lose, you will be fine as it is just an unimportant event you just had, if you win, then good on you. Really just think of dating as a joke, don't take it seriously.

401 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-26 14:08 ID:Heaven

>>398
No..just no. There's too much risk and dignity involved by chasing her down despite knowing she likes someone else. Some girls may like that kind of thing and fall for your straightforward approach, but for others, it could prove to be quite the dilemma and you will be stuck in the sympathy/rebound trap. In this trap your feelings be toyed with to no end...not a pretty sight.

@Benson: >>400 (get) is quite right. Lyss is the undecided, airheaded type girl. That being said, it would be meaningless to start a relationship with her unless you're into all that mushy, shallow, doting-on-the-girl stuff. You will never know what she truly thinks of you unless you ask her out- which is a bad idea considering she likes someone else. Being an asian girl myself, I know that even then, we will tend to be quite coy about our feelings.

Focus your attention on manda.

402 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-26 15:02 ID:7ZGM0GIB

greatt on my birthday i have to find out the guy that lyss likes..

btw >>396 you remind me of the guys who use to pick on me, i remember they said the exact same words. "your such a looser! you have no chance!" but i guess it turned out the opposite since they are so scared of me now... (long story) anyway >>396 if you got nothing good or nice to say then dont bother saying anything.

>>400 i think what you said is very true, shes 2 years younger then me so... yeah. the guys name is tony and i asked lyss what his last name was... she got all worried and started asking me "...? what u wanna know? u wanna stalk hin LOL!" so i just said "just wondering if i know him". ok i'm in the mood of fustration cos this guy looks REALLY palthetic and a 12 year old kid! and his got a xanga site and talks about lyss as well... like "omg sweet talk isn't working with lyss.. HELP!?" WTF is that?!! i cant beleive lyss likes this guy!! its really ANNOYING!!

i REALLY REALY want to just move on and focus on manda instead... cos this guy has gone out with LYSS and prob more then once from what i have read...okk i gotta calm down at the moment.

>>398 i understand what you mean, i should be going till the end but the thing is.. i dont want to waste time on lyss if shes likes this TONY guy soo much, i have this problem of giving up easily which i think is happening right now. but to be honest, i compared lyss and manda, personaly i like manda more cos shes nicer, same intrest and i can tell her about anything and she wont be freaked about it, she actuali helps out. i mean with lyss right, she'll prob think i'm EMO again and then go with the silence thing "...." so i really want to just move on. what do you guys think?

403 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-26 20:10 ID:Heaven

It's great that you're starting to think on your own. You have a much clearer image of yourself, (and her); and it's good that you feel that way, and it means you have the guts to move along.
Since you've expanded a little more on the situation, it makes sense. It's too bad she's going for the other kid and she can't see you; she'll regret it later. As for you, now that you know more about each personality, either way you decide, you'll do fine... as long as you keep practicing those moves. Good luck B.

404 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-27 11:29 ID:vjlrz9Kp

>>402
just like i've been saying all along.. she wants to be surrounded by people who dote endlessly on her all the time as >>401 said. hell, i'll bet if you wore black socks to school, she would call you emo. i'm glad you've finally come to that realisation. a relationship with her would only last a month at most. she doesn't have the capacity or attention span to have a serious relationship.
i could tell her character from your chat logs straight away. although i guess it helps that i'm a girl myself. seriously, there is something wrong with her, not you.

405 Name: Mireille guy !2dC8hbcvNA : 2006-09-27 13:44 ID:Heaven

Finally, a female post that we can trust!

406 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-27 15:41 ID:7ZGM0GIB

it seems that manda also has someone she likes, i kinda dont wanna go tomorow to meet lyss for some reason. the thing with me and manda is, she knows almost everything about me, we talk alot and mostly about our life. i told her about last year how i use to get bullied around at school and that i tried to kill my self, i was surprised to find her not freaked out about it and rather said "must be painful last year for you" and i told her how i came back and started standing up for my self and helping others. she says "i think its great that your helping people with the same situation, make a difference!"

at the moment i really dont know what i am thinking, its either give up everything or work harder to get manda. latley when i talk to manda she says "take care...", but i doubt it means anything. well i will see what happens tomorow because i reckon i'm in the stage of confusing my self.

o btw it turned out that TONY guy lyss like is a player, and she likes him cos his REALLY REALLY good at clarinet... PFT

407 Name: TokyoJapan22 : 2006-09-27 15:59 ID:uktxeWsJ

So.........who do you really love? Yuo should check up on Aya!

408 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-27 18:23 ID:UXOt+hhz

Tokyo, Aya is long gone.

409 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-28 01:06 ID:Heaven

>>408 very true

i beleive this thread is coming to an end, lyss just messaged me saying she wont make it so i wont need to do now... havn't seem manda online for a while either, this really is coming to an end xD

410 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-28 06:26 ID:PLrAtGd5

>>and his got a xanga site and talks about lyss as well... like "omg sweet talk isn't working with lyss.. HELP!?" WTF is that?!! i cant beleive lyss likes this guy!! its really ANNOYING!!

Delicious irony.

411 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-28 06:30 ID:Heaven

>>and she likes him cos his REALLY REALLY good at clarinet

"Duh" is the proper phrase to use here, I think. If you want to sit on Lyss' couch naked while she listens to you improvise for hours, you're going to need a musical instrument. It is a sure-fire way into the female heart. You know, savage breasts and all.

412 Name: Mirielle Guy : 2006-09-28 17:57 ID:Heaven

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

413 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-29 01:46 ID:7ZGM0GIB

hmm i was talking to manda last night about tony, she kept saying sorry taht she forgot my bday lol! even just then i got a message from her apologizing about forgetting it xD

her birthday is coming up so i have decided to play the piano for her on that day, too bad i cant play it in front of her so i can only do it over the phone ~~"

414 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-29 02:12 ID:7ZGM0GIB

ok... lyss just suddenly flooded me with "sorry" in japanese on msn, should i just ignore or reply?! my friend told me not to say anything lol

415 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-29 03:20 ID:UXOt+hhz

dont play her the song. she forgot your birthday why should you do something special for her. she is sending text messages saying sorry, she still didnt give you anything. If she makes it up then go ahead, if not don't waste your time.

416 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-29 14:53 ID:Heaven

>>414

Those girls are just playing with you. You said everything about yourself. They are kind of looking down at you. You said about your past and they down on you. Lyss keeps pestering you with emo, and i think she has an attitute who don't look up to those who are emo. You shouldn't say so much about your past. now they know you are vulnerable and insecure, which makes them think of you as a low person. They may also be like that, but they want guys who aren't. Girls/women want reliable and confident guys/men because they have to, it what makes girl/women, girl/women. Girl/women always have an inferior complex to men, so they instinctually have to rely on them and take their commands. Girls/women are emo, but they want guys to not be emo, and want guys to lead them out of their emo self who is afraid and not confidence of progressing.

417 Name: 映画男 : 2006-09-30 07:00 ID:7ZGM0GIB

well i've been texting messages with manda for the whole day today, shes just asking me wat happened with lyss and stuff.
yesterday with lyss i just said "hhhmmm, dw about it" and left cos i had to go to a friends house. well i'm stil going good with manda, i'll still have another go with manda, hope playing the piano can get me further lol xD

418 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-09-30 12:33 ID:sKK2qOHP

tell lyss to piss off...eloquently of course.
seriously, she'll only play with you if she's bored.

419 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-01 04:01 ID:7ZGM0GIB

whats intresting was last night i found out lyss rejected tony and she flooded me with "eewws" about tony as well... what the hell is going on!! i'm going to get things fixed today.

manda is epexting me to call her or something, cos she said "talk to u tomorow yea?" hmm i better go pratice the piano otherwise i might stuff up.

420 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-01 13:32 ID:7ZGM0GIB

i decided to sms manda at 12 tonight and say "HAPPY BIRTHDAY", then give her the surprise by playing the piano this afternoon! you guys think that would be good?

421 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-01 13:42 ID:Heaven

>>419
interpretation: she is bored of tony. the fawning all over her act only kept her interested for a little while. now she wants an older guy to play with.

just ignore her. "emos" don't solve other people's love problems. she'll want you more, but just remind yourself, you won't get anywhere with girls like her.

gluck with manda.

422 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-01 14:03 ID:7ZGM0GIB

>>421 yeah i understand, i'm just staying normal friends with her. i'm about to send the message!

423 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-02 08:52 ID:7ZGM0GIB

well i'm going to call manda and play the piano for her soon, but i'm not sure what to say!! should i just say "hey manda happy birthday, since its your birthday i decided to play the piano for you" hmm i'm really not sure what to say, little help here please!

424 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-03 12:36 ID:7ZGM0GIB

last night, i played the piano for manda and she loved it!!! she kept saying thank you and how sweet it was, even posted it on her xanga xD!! we talked for a while after that, seems to be going good!!

425 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-08 10:10 ID:Heaven

looks good, keep it up

426 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-09 08:20 ID:Heaven

so whats going on now? any news with manda benson?

427 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-09 12:52 ID:ihwbIUw/

well we're only emailing each other and stuff, thats about it.

428 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-10 13:30 ID:ihwbIUw/

manda's been telling me really personal stuff like how much her dad makes.... does tht mean anything? we seem to be getting closer

429 Name: Doku Otoko : 2006-10-16 08:50 ID:Qf4g5mZu

Just make sure you don't forget to make a move and become just "a friend"!

430 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-17 05:22 ID:Heaven

>>428

I know it is personal... kind of wondering... how much does her dad make?

431 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-19 11:35 ID:K56XSl9J

latley manda has been starting convo's with me. yesterday when talking to her she suddenly said this..
M: r u ok?
B: eh wat do u mean?
M: oh... well u just sound very distant thats all

i was talking pretty normally and yea something did happen yesterday but somehow she knows theres something wrong with me. btw 3 days ago, my family friend told me she had a bf and yesterday told me again she doesn't. she also said "even if she doesn't have a bf, she wont like u anyway" and i asked if lyss likes anyone and she said "atm no... but if ur going for her dont.. cos she wont like u anyway" and yesterday when she told me manda has no bf she said "but she wont like u anyway". i was REALLY pissed and we had this massive fight, tomorow i'm going badminton with lyss and the family friend, i wont even talk to her there. i realized these days that i dont like manda but i'm really in love with her now... god i went pretty crazy knowing she has a bf 3 days ago... i'm just really pissed with my family friend for putting me down.

432 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-19 20:26 ID:Heaven

too slow

433 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-22 02:31 ID:K56XSl9J

my friend in mandas school suggested to write a love letter to her or sing a song on the piano. i reckon thats a bit early to do it but she says shes gonna help me with it. i mite see manda next week

434 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-25 12:41 ID:K56XSl9J

i am preparing my self to confess to manda very soon, we're even more closer then ever. i might confess to her next month and i'm writing the love letter at the moment... gosh i hope it works this time. i almost confess to her in a email today... god

435 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-26 10:04 ID:CiE81QfW

>>432
BLOODY SECONDED.

436 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-27 07:13 ID:xQOKiJKo

I notice that you still haven't confirmed what either girl's favorite pokemon is.

437 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-27 07:40 ID:Heaven

>>436 cuts right to the important bits

438 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-27 14:23 ID:mOjZHxay

god if her fav pokemon is such a big deal i will ask her next time lol
manda messaged me the other day saying "if you ever felt like that again, i'm always here to help =D" reason for that is cos i had a fight with my parents since they crack at me easily and got a bit depressed. i really want to confess now but i dont think the time is right. i might see her next week, hopefully

439 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-10-27 17:27 ID:1ptlw5zs

Did you kiss her yet? If you didn't kiss her yet, that could be your confession.

440 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-10-27 17:28 ID:1ptlw5zs

Tell her that you find something about her sexy, and make her close her eyes. Then kiss.

441 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-28 00:00 ID:mOjZHxay

that will be a while before i kiss her lol, depends if i can ever meet her again XD

442 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-28 03:05 ID:UXOt+hhz

benson forget the love letter and go for the goal. next time you meet her give her a kiss and then see what happens.

443 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-29 01:19 ID:CiE81QfW

Print out and memorise:

You: Hey Manda.
Manda: Oh hey, Benson.
You: Pause Uh can we talk? I have something to tell you. Take her hand and lead her to a bench
Manda: Umm, ok..sure. Let go of her hand
You: Dramatic pause. I just wanted to tell you how much you mean to me. You've always been there for me, and I really feel lucky to have met you. My friend told me that you just thought of me as a friend, and I respect that, but lately I've started to like you alot. Look into her eyes You make me feel happy when I'm around you and I want to be more than friends with you. You're really special to me. I just wanted to let you know.
Manda: Flustered
You: Kiss her hand

Walk into the sunset

444 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-29 01:59 ID:Heaven

Wake up from dream and live in the real world

445 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-29 04:19 ID:mfYTdAXE

Live rest of life in a deep, inescapable depression

446 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-29 05:48 ID:4dBER5no

>>443 i will try that next week we meet, we're going to a beach so it will be better if i can do it during the sun set!

if shes crowded with people, i go up to her and say "hey manda, uh can we talk? i have something to tell you..." right?

god i'm already nervous right now ~~"

447 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-29 05:58 ID:Heaven

i know it is a big undertaking but dont follow >>443 plan. life is unscripted, so you will have to feel your way through the situation. just relax and dont get too worked up over this. you are a resisent guy so if this doesnt work, like always, will walk away wiser, taller and ready for what comes next.

448 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-29 06:46 ID:68dNsi6c

>>446 lol, you're actually taking >>443's plan?

449 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-29 07:55 ID:4dBER5no

is >>443 plan not good?? hmm i have decided to confess when i see her and we are going to the beach. i was thinking either give her the letter or just say it.

450 Name: 443 : 2006-10-29 09:18 ID:CiE81QfW

okay, I guess i got a little carried away. but seriously, what is wrong with starting off with "hey manda, uh can we talk? i have something to tell you..."? if you haven't noticed, benson's way of approaching women is rather scripted itself. (no disrespect to benson), but if he's gonna get anywhere with this girl, he sounds like he needs to follow a couple of lines to get his confidence up. yes, confess to her at the beach. i'm excited for you buddy. just make sure the palm cards aren't too big to see. jk.

451 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-29 18:19 ID:Heaven

nothing wrong with that part. it is just the >Print out and memorise:

452 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-30 11:49 ID:4dBER5no

>>450 lol its not disrespectful, it is true anyway xD well i like ur plan anyway so i mite stick to that on that day.

i'm thinking of doing it before we leave cos thats around sun set time and hopefully no one is around.

my family friend who is a friend of manda said i might have a chance after she saw my messages with her

453 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-10-31 00:11 ID:Heaven

>>451
that is the MOST IMPORTANT part. she can tell that you're prepared and well organised. something that every girl looks for in a man.

454 Name: 映画男 : 2006-10-31 12:46 ID:4dBER5no

i'm getting nervous every day! the day is getting closer when i confess to manda! god...

455 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-01 14:35 ID:/gyKZVEy

Have someone punch your arm repeatedly, so that the pain in your arm will distract you from the pain in your heart. Alternatively it could make you numb, and therefore insensitive to any type of rejection.

Hahaaaa. Only kidding. You can do it BEnsonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

456 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-02 15:24 ID:JF1GsEWU

If you fall, i'm here to catch you.

Sincerely yours,
Secret Admirer

457 Name: MG : 2006-11-02 23:49 ID:1ptlw5zs

Benson, you're taking too long.

458 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-03 12:13 ID:wfEMQKM0

>>457
I agree. 458 posts too long.

459 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-03 12:22 ID:4dBER5no

okk i have a problem... well i dont know if its a problem...

well on my forums, her friends at school was talking about something she sms me cos she cant go on monday and she sms me saying "hey u should come to our school celebration evening or smthing!" and manda on the forums suddenly said "Benson, do you like me?"

i am so speechless right now, my family friend who is her friend at school asked her what she thinks, apparently she doesn't want anyone to know what she thinks, everyone says i have a chance now and should confess as soon as possible, shes talking a bit shyish today but stil talking normally. what do you think is going on!? btw her school evening is on the 20th of november and my exams are on the 23rd.. godd this is bad or maybe good lol

460 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-03 13:21 ID:4dBER5no

okk i was just talking to manda and she just told me REALLY REALLY personal stuff about her family... i think i have a chance right now! i might confess to her in 2 weeks time, go to her school and wait at the front gates for her and confess to her when i see her! my god is this really going to work out?! if it does... i will be a VERY happy man!

461 Name: MG : 2006-11-03 18:10 ID:1ptlw5zs

I don't know why you decided two weeks but, you're the man. Plan your timing well and best of wishes to you!

462 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-03 22:30 ID:Heaven

>i think i have a chance right now!
>i might confess to her in 2 weeks time

you're doing it wrong.

463 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-04 03:43 ID:Heaven

seriously, what is wrong with you benson? you let the best opportunity slip because you plan too fucking much. ALL THE SIGNS ARE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE. I THOUGHT YOU FREAKING CONFESSED TO HER AT THE BEACH????? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING IT OFF? DO YOU WANT TO SCREW THIS UP??

freaking hell. everytime i come on 4-ch, your last post is always "omg, i MIGHT confess to her this time!" or "i MIGHT confess to her NEXT CHRISTMAS." seriously dood, i was rooting for you after you dumped lis. i thought you had developed some initiative and realised what girls were like, but now i'm not so sure.

464 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-04 03:47 ID:Heaven

PS. even if you planned for your confession to be the perfect time (being at her ball and all), chances are it will not turn out like you wanted it too. the best time to confess is usually that unplanned fleeting instance. ie: when she said "Benson do you like me?" you should have launched your attack from there. in person, preferably.

465 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-04 04:14 ID:4dBER5no

>>463 i havn't confessed at the beach cos thats wat was suppose to happen on monday and shes not going on monday. reason why i dont wan to do it on the forums or msn is cos i've done that in the past and its the worst place to confess on the net, the only time i can see her is in 2 weeks or a week. unless i should do it on the phone but that doesn't seem to be a good idea, i will confess to her if she does ask me on msn, i'll prob say "would u rather me telling u in person?" and some how arrange to meet. or just call her if she asks me and tell her on the phone.

466 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-05 20:17 ID:VXuVUipj

If you can't meet her right now, thats unavoidable. Instead, call her and up and tell her, "I have something really important I want to tell you when you get back. How about meeting somewhere?"

Good luck man,
a girlfriendless comrade

467 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-06 12:43 ID:4dBER5no

aahh thanks thats a good idea!! i'll be doing it next monday!

468 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-10 04:06 ID:LDyYZqe/

Does this girl like guns, benson?

469 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-10 20:00 ID:Heaven

steyr aug perhaps?

470 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-11 00:30 ID:5iE89ybu

hmm amanda just told me she likes someone else...so i guess...its another rejection....i think i will disappear for a while

471 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-11 00:37 ID:Heaven

how about you get back on your feet and find some other girl. remember courting is a numbers game.

472 Name: MG : 2006-11-11 01:22 ID:1ptlw5zs

Such a high school drama. You take too long. Your youth will pass by quickly.

473 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-11 01:39 ID:5iE89ybu

well to be honest i aint that down, just feel really weird thats about it. i guess i'll just move on again XD

like they say, theres plenty of fish out there

474 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-11 02:22 ID:mzMedTU0

Sometimes you have to whack the fish over the head with an oar and drag it into the boat, though. Get what I'm saying?

475 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-11 07:51 ID:Heaven

yueah. if you give up over something as little as this, it just proves that you really didn't LOVE HER LIKE YOU CLAIMED YOU DID. wasn't this the girl who drove you crazy??? the one who you wanted to play piano for??? THE ONE THAT YOU FREAKING WAS GONNA CONFESS TO?? this wasn't a mere crush dude. you don't just "move on again" in this situation. you have to FIGHT FOR HER and maker her realise she WANTS YOU.

476 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-11 14:08 ID:gtyRyU6/

hmm its a bit hard from some infomation i got today...

yea i was crazy about her tilll today... apparently a friend of mine told manda about how i am going to confess to her on monday and she doesn't seem to be the type of person that will tell people about it so i find it really weird. my friend at school is suspicouse that she mite like me cos i'm very close to her and recently she just got over a guy she liked before and she suddenly called me today cos she heard i was away on msn and was turning emo or something. she has NEVER called me before so i called back today and she didn't answer but 2 mins later she messaged me twice by accideny saying "omg sorry i was in shower -_-", i talked to her for a while and she thought i was emo and got worried about it so i told her i was ok, then she said she will talk to me tomorow. so i rather find it weird that this girl told manda about monday... i dont think she likes me becasue i know that when she likes someone shes to shy to talk to them, really confused though cos we talk almost everyday.

so wat should i do about manda? i got rejected and i wanna know why my friend told manda about monday's confession.... it just doesn't make sense, and wat happen if this friend likes me?? should i go for the friend or stil go for manda?

477 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-11 16:08 ID:pjlj9rgw

To quote >>432

too slow

478 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-11 20:40 ID:QNn3cLpE

Oh, you kids and your "emo."

479 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-12 01:19 ID:Heaven

benson you should know that girl can never keep a secret. loose lips sink ships. next time dont tell a girl any thing important because females cannot be trusted.

480 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-12 13:46 ID:gtyRyU6/

thats so true...well manda emailed me today saying how nothing is going to change between us and that she will still be there for me if i need help and care for my well being... god shes such a nice person...

oh btw i forgot to say that the friend is Lyss.....today lyss made me promise i wont disappear and stop being by my self. hmm i must admit i'm not handling very well in this situation atm.... i'm seeing lyss tomorow cos shes giving me a CD. with manda i'm not sure what to do now but maybe remaining close friends like now will be good... i'm pretty sure lyss doesn't like me cos shes getting over this guy atm...but i'm not sure.. god i'm pretty hopeless at this.

481 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-12 16:25 ID:pjlj9rgw

CASE DISMISSED.

482 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-13 12:06 ID:JF1GsEWU

>>478

I second you.

483 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-13 13:52 ID:gtyRyU6/

lol i met lyss today at her school with my two friends and one of her friends. apparently my friend confessed to lyss's friend last week and she accepted it today.. god so lucky

i gave lyss this keychain and she really liked it, its a thank u gift for the last two days cos she helped me a bit with the rejection from manda. me and my friend were saying how out situation really is like a high school drama lol.

i got a email from manda yesterday, she said "nothing is going to change... i'm stil always gonna be there for u whenver u need help and care for ur well being, thats wat friends are for right?", i must admit i was really touched from the email. well its all good to me really, i stay the same with manda and my chances are stil there. i kind of found out why she rejected me..... apparently someone made this stupid story of me going for my family friend in the past and found manda more cuter and smart so rejected my family friend ect... i bet that really embarrased manda so she got annoyed.

btw apparnetly lyss really liked the gift and kept saying thank u and how cute it is. even told my family friend about it (my family friend goes to the same school as lyss and manda lol)

484 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-13 16:58 ID:pjlj9rgw

CASE DISMISSED.

AGAIN.

485 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-13 18:19 ID:nwWsHSPs

Indeed, this case is over.

write down the details of keychains on your blog, not here. we'd like to see just a tad more important matters than that.

What's next? are you going to tell us how you accidentally took 6 pieces of toilet paper instead of the usual five, because you were distracted thinking of a random girl who you saw in the bus?

then again i could reason to just not read this thread anymore, or rather not to take posts by some '映画男' serious anymore

486 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-14 10:03 ID:Heaven

>well its all good to me really, i stay the same with manda and my chances are stil there.

you're right that you stay the same with manda, but wrong that your chances are still there. you're deep in the friendzone, buddy.

487 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-15 11:06 ID:jwvVihyI

>>485 sorry, i'll stop posting

>>486 prob true, stuck in the friendzone

i'll just quickly conclude that i was on the phone with lyss for 45 minutes and she called me twice today cos she thought i was depressed and she doesn't call guys. well anyway about time to end this thread since not much is happening. but just wanna say a big THANKS to all the previous anonymous whos helped me in the past.

488 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-15 14:29 ID:pjlj9rgw

If something SERIOUS happens, scream or something.

489 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-15 15:47 ID:I9fnd9Ua

Eiga otoko, If something big happends, you know where to find us :D

490 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-16 06:54 ID:ItSzUG9M

>>487

You don't have to listen to those other guys. Post whatever you like whenever you like.

491 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-16 09:00 ID:Heaven

you really haven't learnt have you. i've heard you say "my family friend told manda..." about 219408kasjfaslkfja30129 times already. she screwed up your chances with lyss AND manda. but hey, what are friends for ^_^

492 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-16 11:15 ID:jwvVihyI

>>491 very true, shes stuffed me up all the time. i guess my mouth is too big.

493 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-16 20:36 ID:UXOt+hhz

more like her mouth is too big

494 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-17 08:24 ID:Heaven

stick it in her pooper

495 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-17 09:53 ID:jwvVihyI

>>494 lol how bout just duck tape her mouth next time XD

496 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-17 13:37 ID:nwWsHSPs

you should know which alternative she likes

497 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 22:37 ID:lqc/QMCW

I need an update.

498 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-25 03:02 ID:v8C6PTwp

well i saw lyss last week at badmin cos she told me to go and she seem excited knowing i was going. there was this intresting convo we had though last week...

Lyss: why dont u hit on her??! lol and then she'll get over it
Benson: zomg i'll rather jump off the window then hit on her!
Lyss: omgg!! wtf!! nooo!!!! dont jump!! if you jump i'll jump!!
Benson: what! why are you jumping cos of me?!
Lyss: i dunno, just felt like it

my friend said she really cares for me but doesn't really like me. i can only say me and lyss are really close friends but for some reason she doesn't feel like talking to me now cos she knows i'm not EMO. i really like lyss atm and i just want her to be happy even if she doesn't like me, i'll do anything to make her happy. i tried my best to make her like me but i guess i couldn't, some how i'm only seen as a FRIEND to everyone.

499 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-25 07:19 ID:J+dJ1MeM

>>498
Maybe if you stop typing/talking like an idiot things will work out better for you. Grammar karma?

500 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-25 08:04 ID:D3t+OVMc

>Lyss: omgg!! wtf!! nooo!!!! dont jump!! if you jump i'll jump!!

Yeah, she is basically quoting "Titanic."

And if she doesn't like you, then why the fuck bother. You aren't going to benefit from helping her. Be selfish and only do something only if you benefit from it. That is why everyone thinks as you as a friend because you are always nice and no one can hate a nice guy. But girls never love a nice guy.

501 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-25 16:42 ID:7f1Gg5a0

>>500 GET

502 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-26 08:52 ID:A1fZ9cPh

maybe i should be more aggresive and harsh to her now lol, if being mr nice guy doesn't work, i think i should be the villain now.

503 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-26 23:07 ID:So8zkGks

How can you do that when you never even bought that Steyr AUG that was suggested to you several times?

504 Name: 映画男 : 2006-11-28 07:44 ID:kgEK9mLJ

because i dont have the money and licence to buy it yet lol

505 Name: 映画男 : 2006-12-04 09:17 ID:Cn45aIyM

i was surprised to recieve a email from aya who told me her computer has a virus LOL...

SIF u got a virus! anyway i was sort of rejected by lyss cos she told me i'm not her type but i'm a REALLY good friend and a REALLY nice person. so i guess i'll have to fix my body up a bit since i am a little fat ._. time to work out

506 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-05 02:49 ID:Heaven

you do that. take a break from all the girls, shape up and then worry about girls.

507 Name: 映画男 : 2006-12-05 13:27 ID:x+czrIsj

today i recieved a shocking email from manda telling me that her best friend commited suicide the other day. i'm the 2nd person she told and she said she told me cos she really trust me. shes blaming her self for the friends death cos the guy called her 3 times but her phone as off. i told her not to blame her self for that and that its not her fault, and that i'm always here for her if she needs someone.

we played maple a bit and i think it made he felt better, hopefully she'll get better cos from the sound of it at the moment shes stil blaming her self. always sad to find out ur friend died.. *sigh

508 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-05 19:21 ID:UXOt+hhz

sorry to hear about that. i had a friend commit suicide, it can be difficult to get over it. just let her know you are there for her. it takes time to get over it but eventually she will be fine.

oh it may be dumb to say but for those who are fucked up: dont take advantage of her sorrow for your own personal gain.

509 Name: strong guy : 2006-12-08 19:13 ID:d+dixbkk

now here got another guy with nick "映画男". like the famous "电车男"

510 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-10 08:39 ID:Heaven

>>509
the fuck?

511 Name: 映画男 : 2006-12-16 07:29 ID:Ww3gE7+r

>>509 lol yea another famous story like densha LOL SIF

anyway manda seem to be fine cept that one of her friends is telling people about the situation when she specificly told her not too, i was on the phone with manda 2 days ago for about 1 hour and 20 minutes and we talked alot. i'm away from home atm so she kept on asking me when i'm coming back and also text me saying "tell me when u come back :D" is she trying to ask me out? i kinda get that feeling cos on the phone she asked me twice when i'm coming back. lyss seems to be havin fun in japan atm lol

512 Name: 映画男 : 2006-12-28 17:59 ID:EnL76cUb

you guys wont beleive what happened!! ok i was talking to Aya (finally) who told me her computer was down for 4 months and she was too busy with school work and exams. we talked a bit about all the stuff we missed, i told her i missed her and she said she missed me as well. suddenly she said this...

Aya: hmm i like to tell you something
Benson: what is it?
Aya: i really like you
Benson: uh...really? (in japanese)
Aya: really(japanese)
Benson: hmm since when?
Aya: since last year when december
Benson: hmm wow.. to be honest i am surprised
Aya: hmm do you like me?!
Benson: hmm Aya....can you give me a little time? i need to think about it
Aya: ok!

i cant beleive it, Aya confessed to me and shes the first girl to confess to me in my life! the problem is, i alrdy like lyss but then i'm thinking. what if i dont be with lyss and miss this chance with aya?! i'm really confused now, my heart is with lyss but i dont know, this is kinda like my dream come true. what should i do?

513 Name: fart man : 2006-12-29 16:27 ID:+3Nwo729

well u already know what answer u might get. so dont do that. she lives miles away anyway. living far away is absolutely an obstacle to have romance with her, but it may be the best help when u want to forget about her

514 Name: TEENAGER : 2006-12-29 18:30 ID:US+D+0p7

Man I just don't care anymore.

GO FOR THE MOST REACAHBLE ONE. Long distance relationships at this teenage years is rather bleh. Keep touch with her in case you have a chance to drop by her place.

I mean good god. If this is how things go in high school then I'm in for a real ride D:

515 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-30 02:12 ID:WUCnbbT2

i agree with >>513, this is the best chance to forget about her i mean this girl dumped you there waiting for so many months without saying a real reason and now she wants you back?! dont go that way, you'll just regret it in the future, stick with lyss.

516 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-30 02:20 ID:Heaven

DUMP HER!

517 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-30 06:09 ID:sWOtikpN

Before we can give any actual advice, could you tell us what Aya's favorite pokemon happens to be?

518 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-30 16:10 ID:Heaven

>>517 why does pokemone matters so much in this thread?!

519 Name: yugge : 2006-12-31 00:34 ID:cHlTg/da

I'm sorry to say, but for a serious relationship, that is, one other then the "I got a girlfriend in japan" bragging rights. Aya is out of the question...sorry =/

520 Name: 映画男 : 2006-12-31 07:31 ID:D8rqmE70

okk i had a real think about it and i finaly chose to reject aya, why? heres some reasons....
-she made me wait for so long without a proper answer
-I alrdy have someone i truely like, Lyss

  • as many people say long distance dont last long

-she hasn't really done anything that will make me like her now

there you go, i can think of more but thats the main reasons. i rather be friends then have long distance and regert later on. but i wont just rejet in her face, i'll explain it to her next time i talk to her.

521 Name: fart man : 2006-12-31 07:50 ID:+3Nwo729

>>520
dont worry. just reject her. she lives miles away, and havent even seen u before. she wont care as much as what u might think. she will be fine however harsh u reject her.

522 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-12-31 09:59 ID:t2I+LtKC

It seems to be Korean common sense

Jesus Christ is a Korean

Tom Cruise is a Korean

Carl Lewis is a Korean

Michael Jordan is a Korean

Queen Elizabeth is a Korean

American ancestors are Koreans

A Korean forges it

523 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-01 13:12 ID:Heaven

>>522 wtf with all the korean?

524 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-02 06:18 ID:6W2f9K++

>>518

It's something that can immediately allow you to get an idea of someone's true nature. A person's favorite pokemon just says a lot about what kind of person he or she is.

525 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-02 06:57 ID:dYULOeaH

>>524

I really like mudkips.

526 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-02 08:44 ID:6W2f9K++

Well, that is a good choice. It tells me that you're either sensible or that you're easily influenced by peers.

527 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-02 13:56 ID:Heaven

>>526
this post tells me you're either retarded or not

528 Name: 映画男 : 2007-01-04 06:52 ID:Vh+dvUw6

well i successfully rejected Aya without a problem, she was fine with staying good friends. anyway my parents are thinking of movine me to taiwan from australia, i told lyss the other day and she got upset about it and kept on saying "as long as your happy, then its all good. you better be happy there, if its for your own good, i wont stop you." well its not confirmed whether i'm moving or not but if i am, i'm planning on confessing to lyss, i was thinking of buying her a nice necklace here but i'm not sure if thats a good gift. any suggestions what to buy?!

529 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-04 07:23 ID:D3t+OVMc

tell her first and then worry about buying a necklace. save your money

530 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-05 11:09 ID:hKTSk8qX

>>526

Yeah, I luvvv Mudkips.

531 Name: 映画男 : 2007-01-05 14:08 ID:xffLKgyg

today i went out with a girl i use to like, shes older then me though, it was only the two of us today. oh btw i'm not in australia, i'm in taiwan now for holiday, i only see her once a year when i come back, we normaly spend New years and watch the fireworks. well today when i met her i was rather speechless at the begining since i havn't seen her for so long, we walked around and chatted about what we been doing latley. she took me to see the university there and we walked around, then got tired so we sat down and was waiting for a friend. we talked for about 2 hours about our lives in 2006~ however the friend was busy so she didn't turn up. the girl then says next time they'll come to my house and cook, i said "sure! that'll be nice!" anyway we went to eat at a small shop then went to look at some gift shops and walked around. then we took a bus home, well didn't really do much but it was nice to go out with her, shes coming over to my place next week to cook haha. oh by the way anyone read the actual "Densha Otoko" novel? i just bought it today in the book store, its the whole message board format, intresting...

532 Name: 映画男 : 2007-01-10 17:23 ID:EnL76cUb

i tried to ask lyss out on the email since i might be moving back to taiwan to study. but she said "yeah sure we could go out sometime...with Angela(my big mouth family friend) and peoples right?
We'll organize it when we get back, and can I bring along my friend who came
from Hong Kong and is staying with me for the remainder of the summer holidays." from the sound of it, i dont think i'm able to go out with her with only her and me. she also said "keep emailing me...even if you go back to taiwan" i guess i'm stuck in the friend zone...again. i might give up on lyss since i'm moving back, if i am then i will 100% give up and stay good friends with her, if not then maybe i'll give it another try.

recently i've been going out with that girl i use to like, shes 7 years older then me and we known each other for 3 years. today i went out with her and my older brother came along, he was really flirty around her, i kinda got jealous to be honest. during dinner, my brother kept on asking if he didn't have a gf, would she choose him. she said "yes", then my brother asked "what about someone whos 7 years younger then you?" and she replied "well.. they have to be mature since his younger then me". btw recently we're getting close since we are really close friends anyway, she suggested me to go to her school cos i told her i might be moving back and i myself know that she feels save around me. but the problem i stil have is that i stil dont have confidence with girls even though i've gotten much better, my brother kept on patting her head and grabbing her arms when crossing the roads. should i be doing that?! maybe thats why i never got chances but i just feel nervous and afarid that they might think wrong of me. i'm kinda starting to have feelings for her again cos when i see her, alot of memories rush in my head. shes really important to me, she saved me during a really depressing time. whats also bugging me is that i'm afraid if my brother is just playing around with her, cos my brother already has a gf and his acting as if his trying to pick her up. i really dont know what to do cos he could tell i was a little sensative when he was flirting with the girl. i'll be seeing her again in two days, if i move back i'll see her alot. also is it strange for someone to like a person whos 7 years older then you?? some people find it really weird but otherss find it normal, anyway i feel she treats me different this year, in a good way.

533 Name: TEENAGER : 2007-01-10 20:02 ID:Heaven

Jesus christ dude you are simply shooting blanks now.

You have known her for 3 years, and she is 7 years older than you, while you are 16.
Unless she is into teenagers, then you may be more or less, well, screwed.

Seriously dude, what I suggest you to do is to calm down and stop thinking about girls just for 2 days or so. Because right now you are simply getting boners at random. You need to pick one REASONABLE girl, then focus on her, not some swinging between Aya/Lyss/23yearoldfriendwhoyouhaveknownfor3years/Badmintongirl/whatever.
Honestly, I stopped paying attention a hundred posts ago once I got confused whom are you actually trying to get.

Also, you are moving to Taiwan. Lots of cute girls there (around your age), right?

534 Name: 映画男 : 2007-01-11 05:05 ID:EnL76cUb

>>533 yeah, there is alot of cute girls around my age. well i'm obvioursly thinking too much again and i really should take my time to think. this really makes me look like a player
_| ̄|○" i think i'll stop posting till i find someone i really want to be with them, so far it was lyss but since i'm moving back i thought i'll give up since she doesn't really like me.

535 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-11 08:46 ID:Heaven

>i'm obvioursly thinking too much again and i really should take my time to think

what?

536 Name: TEENAGER : 2007-01-11 13:38 ID:Heaven

It simply seemed that you are popping a boner, then dumping whatever the girl you were going for and go for the newfound boner-inducer.

What I want is you to cool down just for a moment, clear your head, and then think what you really need to do.

537 Name: 映画男 : 2007-01-11 15:32 ID:EnL76cUb

>>536 i think thats been my problem for my whole life, i never really cool down and think clearly what i really want or need to do, even with my own life. i guess thats what i should have been doing in the first place then jumping around from one to one.

btw i gave up on alot of girls in this thread for either they rejected me(Manda), they disappeared (aya) or they dont like me (lyss). i still like lyss but i never got the chance to do anything with her especially with my annoying big mouth family friend following us everywhere. i'm trying to find a way to go out with lyss alone but i think shes not confortable doing that.

538 Name: TEENAGER : 2007-01-11 18:15 ID:6/W+5WEx

Well, I do have to admit, you have done much more in a few months than I have in... years D:.

Well, dude. I think it's STAGE CLEAR here. You MIGHT try out with Lyss, but don't hold your breath. But when going for Lyss, don't be so stressed out. You sound like stressed out like all the time. Like you have constipated for 9 years or something.

If luck is on your side, then luck will pull some strings and help you out. Believe me, miracles have happened even to the most common of folks.

Good luck.

(Also don't also say BUT DISASTERS ALSO HAPPEN. Well, that's the whole thing with the yin and the yang. Shit happens, then you win the lottery. Etc.)

539 Name: sage : 2007-01-12 03:06 ID:2kw958ZH

From my past experience, I suggest that you stay away from friends. I think that probably like me, the girls see you as a nice guy and are just getting friendly with you.

Friends of friends are ok tho. That's about how all of my friends found their girlfriends and boyfriends.

I guess you could call me a believer in the friend-zone.

You're also moving to Taiwan right? Unless you plan on coming back to Australia, perhaps you should concentrate on your studies more for the time being. You wouldn't want to look back in 10 years time, still single, and regret not focussing more on your studies to get a decent job.

540 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-01-12 03:14 ID:Heaven

If you really want more advice, wait until University/College before you find a girlfriend. Lot's more choices.

541 Name: fart man : 2007-01-12 07:58 ID:+3Nwo729

>>540
Love and Romans University is on this board

542 Name: 映画男 : 2007-01-12 07:58 ID:dxU3VNQI

>>539 well i was planning if i do go back to australia, i'll stop on the girl chasing things and concentrate on my studies since its my last year of high school, get good grades and get into a good university. like you said which i reckon is a great idea.

if i do move back, i dont think i'll have time to go on msn and talk to anyone since the studies here is really strict and most students dont have much free time. they only sometimes go out on the weekends as a group of friends which i reckon is pretty good. i'll be able to meet new friends and stuff.

well i'm stil thinking carefully whether i'm going to stay in Taiwan or not.

>>538 hahaha i wont say that, i know if bad things happen the good things will happen, like you say shit happens anyway and we gotta live with it.

543 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-04 05:26 ID:JTIkV9tN

long time no see everyone
quiet alot of things happened when i came back to australia...
so far i completly have no contact with lyss now cos we had this little fight which is complicated, basicly i asked her to the formal but got rejected and all these weird stuff happened in between. i've met quiet alot of people in class that i attend now, so far nothing intresting is really going on, also i recently moved house and the worst thing is... my house is right next to lyss, i was exctied at the begining but now its so akward. anyway i'll report back if something DOES happen,

also my close friend is trying to make me look good or something, shes took me to a stylist for my hair cut and is telling me to exercise alot so i can loose weight etc, prehaps something may happen in a month or two xD

544 Name: anonymous : 2007-03-04 05:35 ID:kJrIc8My

well, i see that you're progressing further than any of us have. my best wishes [[;

545 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-04 10:05 ID:Heaven

>also my close friend is trying to make me look good or something, shes took me to a stylist for my hair cut and is telling me to exercise alot so i can loose weight etc, prehaps something may happen in a month or two xD

Finally. A girl you can listen to.

546 Name: Kira : 2007-03-05 09:44 ID:NcN2WJH/

Well if you have someone that you like... wouldn't it be natural to confess. Well anyways I think there are lots of opportunities in the future even if you don't get any girl right now. But I hope that your love life will turn out well. Fighting!

547 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-06 08:48 ID:AyIJ1vYO

whats funny was i asked lyss to the formal as good friends but she said shes afraid i'm gonnna like her again and she doesn't wanna encourage it. then my friend went up to her and called her a coward and she think it was me which started the fight. well we havn't talked at all now, her friend said to give her time.

at the moment, theres this girl in my tution class that i went out with the other day for lunch, first time i talk to her and we seem to get along pretty well. shes seems like a nice girl and i havn't talk to her on msn yet since been busy latley. i think i'll just find my chance to talk to her in class then.

548 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-14 08:17 ID:C5PaiNaU

i've come to the end where i have no social life, i seem to have gone back to my old life before i met aya, lyss or manda. i try to talk to people but they seem to ignore me or see me as some not normal person, i just say "hey hows your week?" and they say "eh....ok...", i really dont know what to do now and loosing more confidence then ever, i really want to give up_| ̄|○

latley i'm getting really anti social, dont really talk to people or socialize even if i did i just get ignored. what is going on!!

549 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-14 09:08 ID:Heaven

>>548
you hadn't noticed that everyone always answer "eh... ok" when you ask how their day/week/etc was? it's a generic answer, because it's a generic question.

550 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-14 13:51 ID:hfIf48m/

I wouldn't give up on meeting people. The very fact that you've been and still are close to several people is testament to the fact that you're successful at talking with people and holding a friendship with the potential of a relationship.

It seems like right now, though, you don't have a clear goal, so this thread is becoming a form of blog of your daily life, as all these different people seem to keep coming and going. Sooner or later, you're going to have to choose someone and significantly try with that person, even if you get turned down initially, rather than just continually bouncing from person to person, with people you've been with before, or are looking at now as next-in-line.

551 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-17 04:56 ID:ozHx5vjh

i think the problem i had was i kept bouncing around, so far the only girl i'm socializing with is a close friend of mine who we talk on the phone every day. it seems to be a habbit since i didn't call her for 3 days and she wondered what happened to me. at the moment i kind of like her but i'm not too sure my self, she seems nice and all but i dont think she will like me.

552 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-17 12:11 ID:vjBSqPRJ

Well, if you're talking on the phone every day, and you both seem to like each other, then just ask "Hey, do you want to catch dinner tomorrow? My treat?"... Perfect way to start getting more serious if another relationship's what you're really after right now...

553 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-18 04:34 ID:xVDGQkLL

>>552 i'll give it a try, its easy for me to ask her out at the moment.

554 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-23 04:55 ID:1gCpvBI3

*help! i got the date but i'm not sure where to go, any suggestions?!

555 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-23 06:51 ID:Heaven

umm, take her somewhere you would like to go with her

556 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-23 14:14 ID:hfIf48m/

Depends on how well you know her; If you are fairly casual in your relationship, a little diner or cafe or something similar would probably be nice... If you're not that well-off as far as being close with her yet, try a larger, more expensive restaurant...

Either way, you can bring up why you chose the place with a phrase similar to: "I always wanted to try this place, and I thought you'd be the perfect person to invite!"

557 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-24 12:52 ID:Oz3PMmvA

well we are very close since we talk everyday on the phone, she tells me stuff she dont normaly tell people. i was thinking of taking her to a nice italian restraunt for dinner, would that be good?

558 Name: Not this again. : 2007-03-24 14:00 ID:Heaven

I for one, am sick of this thread.

I was vaguely interested in your internet love interest, and I could deal with your issues with Liz. But freaking hell, your little issues never seem to end. Without fail you seem to conjure up some new trivial problem about a girl every couple of months.
You would think that by now you would have either gotten past the "I'mma so desperate for a girlfriend" stage, or you would have improvised with the endless stream of advice that you've gotten from here (which all say the same thing anyway).

Are you so socially inept that you have to discuss every single girl that crosses your path and turn them into an opportunity??

Seriously dude, your life sounds like it revolves around getting your first girlfriend. Well here's a protip buddy: If you cared a little less, then you would probably pull in a couple of decent chicks. But as it stands, you think WAY TOO MUCH about it, and therefore you project yourself as a desperate guy, driving away all the girls.

559 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-24 15:07 ID:Heaven

>>558 i know i may sound desprate on this thread, and it is true that i seem to have problems with every single girl i meet. i have a problem with girls is because i dont socialise enough with girls to understand them, sure i had a few close friends last year like lyss and manda but that was about it. i look desprate becasue i dont even have friends that are girls, the only girl i talk to now is the one i'm taking to dinner this week. if you really must know, i use to be a hikkikimori and a very antisocial person. last year was the only time i started socialising with girls so thats why i kept asking questions about them because i dont know what to do. unlike a friend of mine at school who actuali is desprate because he would plan things to get peoples attention. he tried to pick up lyss last year but i stuffed up all his plans. with lyss and manda, i just naturaly got close to them because they found me as a good friend and someone they could trust but not someone to be a boyfriend. i never had a single girl that likes me because people in the past found me weird as i dont talk much. right now i'm not even trying or doing anything with this girl, shes the one who calls me every night and talk about these things that happen in her life.

right now i have bigger issues and problems then with girls at the moment, so if you think i'm those people who ONLY think about how to get a frecken girlfriend every minute, then sorry you mistaken the wrong guy. i for one aint like those faggot players who has like what...4 girlfriends at a time and acting all trihard like they are some sort of gangstars.

560 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-25 20:01 ID:S+juMddB

Sigh... Again...

You did not "used to be a hikkikimori"... You were shy, and antisocial, but the fact that you had any friends, and left your home for more than food & water makes you definitively not a hikkikomori... Please, everyone, yourself included, stop using that word to describe yourself being shy with girls, or just emo in general... That's not what it means, and it's just embarrassing even to we readers, to hear people describe themselves that way...

Anyway... You should, by this point, after going through about 3 or 4 girls here, be able to competently handle this... Of course Italian or any place would be fine; And I think already, several suggestions have been made about places to go, as well as sort-of pickup lines to use while having dinner...

You need to take that advice & go with it! Now get out there & take her to a dinner, and try to get to know her even better!

561 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-25 20:09 ID:Heaven

>i dont socialise enough with girls to understand them

show me a man that does understands women, and i will show you a fool

562 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-26 09:04 ID:W0Nvd+os

>>560 i guess ur right, its just people these days use the word "emo" and "hikkikimoro" alot to describe us antisocial shy people .___.

anyway i got good news, last night me and lyss are back to normal, we're back to good friends again. i dont think i wanna question her anything incase she gets pissed about it.

i'll have to read some old posts, i remember there was one desribing everything you should do in a dinner. thanks everyone!

563 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-26 15:19 ID:Heaven

>>559

>right now i have bigger issues and problems then with girls at the moment..

It certainly doesn't sound like it from way you even bother to maintain this thread.

>>so if you think i'm those people who ONLY think about how to get a frecken girlfriend every minute, then sorry you mistaken the wrong guy. i for one aint like those faggot players who has like what...4 girlfriends at a time and acting all trihard like they are some sort of gangstars.

Well, if you're desperate it doesn't mean you're a "trihard gangstar". And you most certainly wouldn't have 4 girlfriends at a time. I think anyone would have worked that out by reading your first post.

>>i seem to have problems with every single girl i meet. i have a problem with girls is because i dont socialise enough with girls to understand them..

To reiterate, you are way too young to be so desperate. Don't try to understand the other sex at your age.

Besides, it's not as if you listen and carry out our advice anyway. You always end up doing something different, because you had already predetermined what you were going to do anyway. I recall telling you that Lyss was your typical asian ditz. Any effort would be wasted on her. Did you listen? No. Instead you went after her like there was no tomorrow. What happened? She was playing with you and had some other guy up her sleeve. You got hurt. But it's okay, because you had a rebound called Manda. Hey, as long as you got one of them right?...and so the tragic story continues..

564 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-27 12:51 ID:d0F9EZ7X

>>563 Lyss wasn't playing with me, i was just not her type and my friend is working on that at the moment, shes that girl who took me to get my hair cut and is making me exercise to loose weight etc. me and lyss are still good/close friends right now and i'm happy with that at the moment, i dont know why but i just want her to be happy.

I'm techinicly in my last year of high school and we have massive stress from test and homework so thats why i said i got bigger issues then finding a girl friend.

i admit, i didn't really listen to the advice about lyss cos you guys kept thinking she was playing on me but she wasn't, she just happens to be really nice to her friends and since we were close she helped me alot when i was in a mentally unstable time last year. manda was also like that and i thought you guys told me to give up on lyss and find someone new and at that time i met manda. Lyss and Manda are the only two girls who understands me and are really ncie to me not to mention changed my life last year. apparently i'm the only guy lyss is close to and at the moment, we're back to normal after a long fight that i managed to fix =D

565 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-03-27 13:25 ID:r4yG6EPj

>>564

>>I'm techinicly in my last year of high school and we have massive stress from test and homework so thats why i said i got bigger issues then finding a girl friend.

Interesting, I'm in my last year too. Well, seeing as you're probably the same age as me, I'll stop nagging about how young you are. It's your life, I'll stop being such a bitch. Right now I don't really have time to be checking posting here let alone be in a relationship (rejected a friend a few weeks ago partly because of this), so in that respect I can sort of relate.

Also, being asian, I know the way a lot (not all) of asian girls work. They have guys eating out of their hand whenever they please. It's so unhealthy to watch. When you described Lyss and posted her convos on here, she fitted that stereotype. But I do admit that I don't know her in person, so whatever. If you think differently, then that's your judgment. I suppose it is better to have her as a friend because if you had a ditzy asian girl as an enemy, you would have a lot of trouble.

Anyway, remember your priorities. Peace.

566 Name: TEENAGER : 2007-03-27 13:39 ID:bTSW3OX1

Aw, come on guys. You're being too harsh on him. He's just like me in the future!

Come on, bud. Teenage years are kinda bummer.
I myself already have enough trouble just talking to strangers. But it's gonna be all right. It's just who I am. 8)

Chill, bud. Whatever happens, happens.

567 Name: 映画男 : 2007-03-29 10:03 ID:fyNxb2jf

well my date with the girl last night was pretty successfull. we met and took a train to the restraunt, i took some old adivce from previous a previous poster about dinner, it went ver well as we talked and ate. after dinner, we took the train to the city and took sticker photos and had a drink. we talked alot when we went for a drink. well shes going over seas for the holidays but i dont think we can be together and stuff since shes not really my type and she does have a guy she like, we only like brother and sisters -____-

>>565 i know what you mean how lyss fits to that sterotype of girls, cos i know some girls that are like that in the past which tricked me. for an asian, you should know we dont really get along with our parents..... thats prob why i told lyss those personal stuff cos she helped me alot in the past. as i'm typing this post my dad is yelling at me in the background but i cant be fucked listning anymore.

568 Name: 映画男 : 2007-04-12 10:41 ID:zAiE3FkY

hey everyone
i have decided to end this thread because after a long long think i have finally decided to settle down and just be with lyss, why?! after a long thought i figured out why i couldn;t get over lyss, because i really love her and i have been rejected a few times by her last year. she also managed to bring me out of my shell and change my life not to mention she is the first girl i met managed to do that. so i have decided just go in the natural flow, me and lyss are even closer then before. i know its prob a really stupid idea but thats how serious i am with lyss, if i wasn't i'll prob be like poping a boner and going for another girl. which i dont want to do that anymore cos its just gonna make me look like a player. i'll just wait....just like what i did with Aya cept this time its different. I'm sure i know what to do now so i just wanna thank EVERYONE who posted in this thread even the flamers lol. i'll be lurking around 4ch from now on xD Good luck to everyone and thanks for everything :) really appreciated all your advice on this thread =D

569 Name: TEENAGER : 2007-04-12 13:53 ID:rHArlvj4

>>568
Woah, dude.
You are actually doing THE RIGHT THING this time.

Whatever man, good luck. I need some too 8)

570 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-04-13 10:02 ID:Heaven

>>568

i'm amused that you bumped the thread to say that, but good for you!

571 Name: 映画男 : 2007-05-06 08:31 ID:A80KkE75

uh seems like i'm in a trouble atm....

i have a school formal in about 3 months but atm i cant find anyone... i seriously have Noo one to ask = / it'll look sad if i go by my self. lyss alrdy rejected and we're kinda in um.... a time out atm, this other girl i was gonna ask is taken alrdy. i really dont know if i should go now .___.

572 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-05-06 09:29 ID:B+SwIErL

>>571
Bring your sister.

Excuse me whilst I pop my boner over that image.

573 Name: 映画男 : 2007-05-06 10:36 ID:JqwjZ9gi

>>572 i dont have a sister .___.

574 Name: 映画男 : 2007-05-06 10:38 ID:JqwjZ9gi

>>572 i dont have a sister .___. and no i aint gonna bring my mum either

575 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-05-06 22:16 ID:Heaven

i thought you were ending this

576 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-05-07 01:52 ID:Heaven

retards actually mean continue when they say end

577 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-05-07 11:18 ID:Heaven

>>576
i lol'd.

tis true.

578 Name: 映画男 : 2007-05-07 12:51 ID:JqwjZ9gi

i wouldn't have come back if i didn't have trouble. i'm rather having alot of troubles atm especially with lyss which has been happening for about 2-3 weeks now. none of my friends are able to help me either so thats why i came back to this board otherwise i wouldn't even touch it.

579 Post deleted by moderator.

580 Post deleted by moderator.

581 Name: 映画男 : 2007-05-08 08:46 ID:Heaven

>>580 wtf

582 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-05-08 13:06 ID:Heaven

>>580 what are you on about? you've been doing that in most threads

583 Name: argg : 2007-05-08 22:23 ID:D7pML9FS

what did 580 say?

584 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-05-09 09:07 ID:Heaven

580 wrote "lame lame" in almost every thread

585 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-19 13:00 ID:LTS8Zvdt

>>578 a bit late to say this but... what r u troubling?

586 Post deleted by moderator.

587 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-08-17 15:41 ID:LTS8Zvdt

>>585 this place has died out lol

588 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-08-18 09:33 ID:Heaven

>>584
Well, in the case of this thread, it was legit.

589 Name: Sweet memory : 2007-08-18 14:25 ID:f46Ybdb6

>>585

need to contact her again i think ^^;

590 Name: 映画男 : 2007-08-20 03:56 ID:LTS8Zvdt

currently i'm doing quite good with this girl who i met a month ago, we talk on the phone everyday and see each other at least 2 times a week, which is mainly at my house lol. but shes a girl whos use to being around a bunch of guys since half of her classes are in a boy school. but she tells me stuff that others dont know about even her friend who shes close to, we get along really well. the problem atm is that shes still has some feelings for her ex bf whos over seas, is there something i can do for her to make her move on? i've done quite a alot for her like i came to see her at midnight when she was really sick, been there when she needed someone to talk to and cheered her up when she was crying.

591 Name: Sweet memory : 2007-08-21 02:40 ID:vOhl5z9P

like my male friend did from me.. and i felt very confused about my feeling now T^T

well.. that was a good job ^^ just need a time to show her that you love her..

but.. what about the japanese girl who you talk to us from the first time?

592 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-08-21 06:22 ID:d2fqHGG3

電車男...
This reminds me of that show.

593 Name: 映画男 : 2007-08-21 07:19 ID:LTS8Zvdt

>>591 haha the japanaese girl has once again disappeared, that was back from last year.

594 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-08-27 20:45 ID:X6af5tF7

I read this WHOLE thread last night (over an hour of reading), and although at the beginning your intentions were good, you just started to come here and ask the dumbest questions. Honestly, make a move or not, don't wait for a week.

The only reason you are loosing girls is because you get beat by other guys. MAKE THE FASTEST MOVE.

595 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-08-28 12:21 ID:kAIsD4Bp

There's a song by a band called Blue october where he sings a few good tips on how to get a girl.

"One, you gotta take it kinda slowly.
Two, you gotta hurry up and make your move.
Three, you gotta tell her that she's pretty!
And four, you gotta be the perfect gentleman.

When you shake the wall, you gotta make it bend.
You gotta show her that
She's the balance beam
and I keep falling all around her fairy tale." <- I suggest you listen to blue october =) he has a huge variety in songs.

596 Name: 映画男 : 2007-09-03 11:32 ID:TdsbSZe1

OMFG....THAT GIRL IS THE BIGGEST BITCH I KNOW.... i cant say its entirely her fault but i'm being the biggest fucktard in the world by buying her a camera for her bday and organizing it for her... like i said before i've done alot for her and been really nice cos apparently shes into the really nice guys or sweet guys. shes been leading me on like flirting around with me and she let me hold her hand in the movies -___- and she doesn't even treat me like a fking friend. shes the tpye of girl who uses people without realizing it so shes the really innocent type. basicly i had a fight with her last friday before her bday party because she told me she doesn't care if i go or not cos shes gonna ignore me at the party and by the way i was the one who ogranized all her food and drinks, even bought them for her for fks sake! then i was asking her if shes back with her ex bf but she wouldn't tlel me so i'm like "why u wont u tell me?! afraid i'm gonna ignore u or something?! so everything i done for u is nothing?!" so we end up arguing on the phone and i hung up on her cos i was on a frecken payphone (dont ask) cos i was out so when i got home i txt her "if everything i did for u was nothing, then u really hurt me as a friend, i did my best to make u happy, supported u and done everything i could for u" she only replied "is that how u think, then ok" so i got pissed and said "yeh i know u dont care cos u got ur fkn adrian (her ex bf) , he should be the one doing wat i was doing" so she replied me "hey y u need to put adrian in this? if ur angry with me then angry with me not him ok = = yeh if i didnt consider u as a gud friend then i would let u die last mon, if u wanna think dat only u have pout much effort for me then fine aiihh, anything u wnat to say, i even told u not to put so much time on me and not to be so nice to me and now ur blaming all the stuff on me, thank u very much" then we end up fighting more on the phone so we ended our friendship there.. cos i'm tired of being treated shit and doing all those stuff for her, theres plenty of fish out in the sea as my friend keeps sayign to me

the only thing she said to me was "i think u spent too much time on the girl u like" and that was 3 weeks ago, so i kept a distant away from her but she kept coming back to me and lead me on again... all my friends said she was just using me and one of my friends even had a fight with her cos of me cos he went up to he and said "u gotta stop using people unconsiously, stay a distant away from him" but she got pissed about that so i guess she really was using me without her self knowing and now shes with her fuking ex bf so basicly all my effort was for nothing. right now i dont think i even wanna be friends with her again cos if thats how i'm gonna be treated then fuk this shit, as u can see i am very pissed off

597 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-09-03 12:42 ID:kAIsD4Bp

>>596
Welcome to life.
Thats pretty much what ALWAYS happens (to me at least)
Women are abusive. You just gotta learn from this and next time don't fall in love, a crush or "oh she's cute" is enough.
Falling in love, 90% always results in heartbreak.

I've pretty much grown away from having any feelings like these.

598 Name: 映画男 : 2007-09-05 07:01 ID:OjEAOyX/

shes doing the attention seeker thing atm, my friend whos also keeping a distant away from her is suddenly being treated nice out of no where, shes blabbing on how shes sick and crying at night now. i'm just ignoring her but i bet shes waiting for me to start talking to her again, my friend told me to get my camera back but i'm just gonna leave it like this so everytime she uses that camera it reminds her of the stuff i done for her. at the look of the situation, apparnetly she lost her ex bf cos i saw on her msn name "i just lost wat i just won T_T"

say if she does talk to me, should i just ignore her for wat she did to me? or just act normal and nice as uaual cos my friend said if she does talk to me just be normal and nice like you usualy are but my other friends are like "ignore that bitch! tell her to give back your camera and fuck off!", which one is better?

599 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-09-05 16:15 ID:Heaven

>>597

Women are not abusive any more than men are. You can't put women on a pedestal and say that a cute girl can do no wrong, but you also can't say that all women are apt to cause men only pain and suffering... Women and men are pretty much the same on the inside, I think. We just have such a hard time communicating our feelings to one another that our real emotions get lost in translation.

Girls on the other hand, almost always hurt you. You need to look for someone mature who isn't going through teen-angst-zOMG-death first. In other words, find a woman, not a girl.

>>598

Don't demand your camera back like that... That's just being a low-life. Obviously this girl has some issues she needs to work out before she can form real friendships with anyone if she's subconsciously using everyone close to her. She needs to grow up. That's about the end of it. Let her deal with that stuff on her own. Until then, I don't really think you should have very much to do with her. Focus on finding people who aren't going to jerk you around to be friends with. Don't ever regret the time you could be spending with her; if she makes you miserable, leave her behind and never look back. Your feelings come first.

600 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-09-05 16:15 ID:Heaven

Also, 600 GET.

601 Name: 映画男 : 2007-09-09 06:05 ID:OjEAOyX/

>>599 i'm basicly gonna forget her and move on cos i tried to sort things out with her but shes just pissing me off by being random and saying she doesn't care etc. so i dont think its worth getting all depressed cos of her =/ i'm just gonna learn from my mistakes.

allthough i thought i was over her, but it stil not fully gone =[ i stil remember some stuff that beings back memories.

602 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-09-09 07:18 ID:tpiVNwpE

  1. Benson, I've participated in your thread from the beginning. So when I say that you're really messed up, I'm not saying it without any grounds. Your recent love interest is right in saying that "You spend too much time on the girl you like". You're just setting yourself up for failure. I think I've mentioned more than once in my posts that you should get your priorities right.

For a guy of your age, you seem to spend an ridiculous amount of time and effort thinking about girls/romance. Take it from a girl; this is unattractive. It oozes of desperateness, clingly-ness and immaturity. Most girls want to see security in a guy. Someone who can support her and is self assured themselves. In other words, someone who doesn't crave for her affection 24/7.

2. Like >>599 said, don't take back the camera. That's just plain insincere and unmanly. When you give someone something as a gift, don't even intend to take it back. If you're going to have regrets, don't give it at all in the first place. She owns the camera now, not you. That is the whole point of a gift. It is up to her judgement whether she gives it back to you or not -not yours.

3. I really have to question whether she is actually using people "unconciously". Either she is very, very dense, to not realise she is using people, or you and your friends have been deceived by her sweet, innocent mask. The latter is much more likely. Trust me on this point as well, I'm a girl. Seriously, 99% of girls are very perceptive of these kind of things by mid-adolescence. They know more than they actually let on. If she is actually unconsciously using people, then she would be an innocent girl. However, this is definitely not the case because she threw your efforts into your face, and then was seeking sympathy from who-ever would listen.

4. Benson, pick yourself up and move on. I don't think you should be considering a relationship until you've sorted out your personal issues first. You threw in a not so subtle hint about your state of mind. I suggest that you mature a bit yourself. Shit happens. Don't go off and mope/wrists/cry/whinge about it. You need to learn something from this experience. Don't throw yourself at a girl's feet and put your heart on the line from the beginning. It is destined for failure and you could be saving yourself a lot of unnecessary pain.

For your sake, I hope you actually take what I've written to heart. I don't mean to discourage or insult you, but you never seem to listen to the sensible advice that is given to you.

603 Name: 映画男 : 2007-10-10 15:39 ID:QhFXWp9f

>>602 After a very long self think for the last month, ur 100% right. lets just call the previous one "camera girl", ur right that i've spent way too much time especially with camera girl that it caused a massive drama and now i have to work hard to catch up at school, ur also right because i also spent too much time focusing on lyss in the past that it completly creeped her out and gave her a hard time. intill now i finally understand why i've been a major failure and that is because i was way too obsesed with them when i fell for them. I've been jumping from one girl to another girl which would make me look like a major playboy or somesort.

over the past month, it took time to get over camera girl but time does heal eventually. i didnt ask for the camera back and never kept contact with her either, i talked to lyss about what happened and she wanted to talk to camera girl to see both stories but i told her not to bother because i was afraid that camera girl might make up stuff and stuff my friendship with lyss plus at the time i was trying to get over her so i thought it would be a better idea if i didnt talk about the camera girl.

I havnt been like i use to be, obsese and acting desprate but instead changed all those bad habbits. incase i didnt mention in the past i had 2 fights with lyss which wouldve caused us to break our friendship for a long time but after giving some time we ended back like we use to be, supporting each other and even studied together through the net. i'm not like i use to be acting 24/7 on her which i think made her feel more confortable being friends with me now. even lyss said i've become much better but my thoughts are stil naive which i stil need to change. so instead of just ignoring advice people give me, i'm taking the advice and changing to be more mature.

i must admit that alot of things have happened this year especially i'm about to finish high school in 9 days. theres been alot of depression not just due to romance but some personal things as well, but i think it was better i go through them this year so i can learn from those mistakes and change before its too late as >>602 said. i for once FINALLY learn my lessons and awaken from a world of obsesity.

so at the moment, i'm NOT going to focus on a particuly person or love interest, instead just be friends. because i beleive you dont really need a certain lover in life, what you really need are friends. although lyss to me is still special as shes done quite alot for me in the past but i will just remain good friends with her as it seems to work out better like that and make my self a more mature and better person so i can maintain this relationship with her and not stuff it up again like in the past. to be honest i am surprised that she gave me a 2nd chance and stil care about me after how much stress i've given to her. she really is a true friend, to me at least.

604 Name: 映画男 : 2008-03-31 06:28 ID:s3sIr75B

I'm going to finally confess to lyss by making a video about the thread and how much shes inspired me and upload to the net so its a public confession, i've waited long enough for this, two years waiting....i will upload it on April the 19th, its my final thing i will do for her whether the results will be good or bad, i just want to tell her everything.

605 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-15 15:21 ID:our7dskT

So how did it go? o.o...its been 3 months

606 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-15 16:24 ID:rHmUQzwd

>>604
Holy cow. Link to youtube pls?

607 Name: 映画男 : 2008-06-19 15:19 ID:OGc03HeN

she rejected me, in the bitchiest way you can imagine...been depressed for a month after but finally move on from it =/ dont even talk to her and dont think i want to either. havnt really spend that much time on girls like in the past, i take my time now.

if previous post in this thread read this, i wanna apologize for not fully taking your advice from the beginning, all i could say i was stubborn guy who was desperate and ALWAYS thought i knew what i was doing but the truth was that i never knew what i was doing =/ and because of those stupid stubbornness i keep creating a tragic story for my self. i could only say many things have happened this year and i FINALLY learned my lesson.

recently i have someone in mind, but because we have a good relationship going on (as in close friends) i really dont want to loose, i'm really scared of loosing someone close to me because of the experience with lyss. its going well with her so far cos she think i'm talented since i've been making my own music this year and reckons i'm a pro at piano, plus we've been here for each other for about 2 years, so if we do go out i reckon it'll work out great, but the problem is i doubt she feels the same way i feel. the thing that annoys me is i dont wanna rush it but then i dont want to take to slow before someone else takes her =/ what do i need to do to develop a relationship with her?

608 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-19 16:48 ID:ix4NUJ97

>>607 Take her out on a DATE. Say "DATE". You need to get out of the friend zone before it's too late..maybe it already is, but you'll never found out without trying.

609 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-21 11:38 ID:5U2g3++Q

so, ah.. where's the video?

610 Name: cisfor : 2008-06-22 12:23 ID:s50MVp1i

oh god, I read the whole thread today, can't belive It's been going on for so long.

about the latest girl, I'd be flirting and friendly at the same time, if you can manage that.
for example being very huggy and complimenting her, but NOT in a way that let's her think your interested.
she'll probably fall easier for you if you treat her like she's someone you'd want to have sex with rather than have as a girlfriend.
and when your sure she likes you, you heel her in and live happily ever after.

but then you shouldn't listen to me, I'm a strange girl, so I don't know how the usual kind works.

611 Name: H.K. : 2008-06-23 19:57 ID:our7dskT

>>610

>"she'll probably fall easier for you if you treat her like she's someone you'd want to have sex with rather than have as a girlfriend."

NO! You need to show something like sex is NOT what your only interested in. Showing or especially TREATING someone only like you want to have sex with them is NOT the way to go. That will probably piss her off. You need to remain as friendly as possible but not too much. Find out some of her interests if you can, and if possible show your into them too. Before considering a relationship, you should work on getting her to know you, and think very positively of you. However, I do agree with 610 about complimenting her, but not overly, and not in a super way that immediately gives it away that you like her, because coming off too quickly like that most of the time may potentially cause game over. ;-;
Do you know at all if she shows any signs of liking you? o.o

-HK

612 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-24 06:07 ID:utXloGNl

I wouldn't be surprised if OP had a School Days ending.

I think it'd be kind of funny.

But on a serious note, highschool will be a distant memory; time moves really fast.

Before you know it, you're 50 and wonder what the fuck you did with your life.

Also, being yourself and not worrying about girls would probably be your best bet to actually meet/bump into someone who is genuinely interested in you.

Yeah you may form friendships with girls who won't regard you for anything more than a friend but you're still young and you'll have plenty of chances - hopefully you've learned from your mistakes with Aya, Manda, Lyss, Old girl etc etc etc.

613 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-24 13:58 ID:Heaven

School Days had a rather wide variety of endings anyway.

614 Name: 映画男 : 2008-06-26 11:51 ID:0bQjIL8R

>>612 Lol by school day ending i hope your not referring to when the main character gets stabbed 20 million times.....but i have to agree even i would find it amusing if it ended up like that lol

>>611 hmm i can say she really knows me, like we're really close, she trust me and i trust her, i've been supporting her alot this year esp shes in yr 12 and i'm in uni already. shes told me alot of personal stuff about her self and her family, but the other day i called her about the time i was gonna meet up with her, she sounded normal but right after i hand up she sends me a sms saying "hey sorry if i sound pissed off, just bit stressed these days, nothing against you!!" . i don't think it means anything but she hasn't shown anything like this before, and shes got something shown on her msn that she likes someone but dont know who cos it only says "<3LY" on it, she avoid the question when i ask what it meant and kept changing the subject, i find it weird cos if she does like someone thats not me i dont think theres anything to hide esp shes told me more personal stuff then her love life =/ i dunno maybe its just me, plus shes shown alot of caring signs to me like she thought i sounded down but i was just tired, so shes like "get some rest kk, plz" which is also the first time shes said something to that extend. I've had a real thought about it these days, i'm afraid of stuffing up her studies if i let her know i like her, but then i have to do it by end of this year cos i reckon once she gets into uni next year she'll def find someone else =/ either i think too much or maybe i have to wait for the right time.

615 Name: H.K. : 2008-06-26 20:08 ID:our7dskT

>>映画男 sorry for long post, but meaningful -

Hmm, whether you think so or not, this last paragraph has brought up some very interesting points!! (^-^)/ Let me explain:

1.For one major thing here, it seems to me that she's able to talk to you pretty deeply, and if she is even able to talk personal things like those, then it's showing that she "feels comfortable" with you. This is a VERY major thing here!

2.It is very good that you show so much support! Keep it up!

3.What she said after hanging up, it does mean something. It shows that yes, she is stressed, but wants you to know that it's not you, and also shows that she may have "worried" about you thinking it might been you. Meaning she cares about what you might be thinking.

4.You are very right about the fact that she shouldn't have to avoid asking about what's on her site if it's not you. That really shows that she may really be thinking about you like that, but her hesitance and avoiding that she did, may mean she may not know how you would react if she did tell you, and she may be wondering if she did tell you, what your reaction might be, and is currently unsure, possibly waiting for you to show signs of those things.

5."get some rest kk, plz". That shows caring, even about something small, it does mean something!

Now, it's about when to tell her. I see what you mean about the difficult decision of when to. I beleive that if you do in fact tell her before the year is over, and it does work out, and she's happy about it, and your continued support for her continues, it should give her strength. In other words, my gf is having a rough time dealing with the hardness of school, and I am always there for her, and she always lets me know how much strength I give her, that helps her get through stressful times like with studies or school.
Now, if it DOESN'T work out, and you tell her before year is over, it may bring an awkward feel to your friendship, and it may or may not "stuffing up" her studies as you mentioned. So it's a little risky to do something like that. But then again, there is always the chance of you not doing anything and another guy comes along...which is GAME OVER. ;-;

You don't think too much. Sometimes it's good to think alot, and since you have, you've brought up useful points! However we should really be focusing on when to tell her...hmm. I'll think for a while...don't forget 映画男! H.K. is totally behind you man!

-H.K.

616 Name: 映画男 : 2008-06-29 13:38 ID:FetTx3R1

>>615 thanks alot for your support =] really appreciate the help you giving me, i would love to think positive points to the situation but everytime that happens, i always seem to screw it up =/

my current situation doesnt seem so good =/ she hasnt picked up any of my calls, or reply any messages or emails that i've sent, she was suppose to meet me the other day for a movie but she said she couldnt come cos of some stupid things thats been happening lately =/ i was worried so i sent a email asking her wats wrong etc, but no reply at all atm =[

and your right H.K if it doesnt work, it'll be extremely akward for both of us, and that will ruin my friendship with her =/ which means i'll loose someone close to me again and i really dont want that to happen =[ so i really need to know when to do it/how to do it so it doesnt stuff up =/ gosh this is tough, but i'm not gonna give up!!

617 Name: H.K. : 2008-06-29 18:28 ID:our7dskT

>>映画男

No problem really. :D
I read the whole thread a few days ago, and I can say I am touched by your story, and truly wish you the best in the end of it! But, it's not over yet! And you're right, you can't just constantly be positive, because you have to be concerned with certain things at some points! But you can't let yourself become negative either!
Truly, the ultimate battle!!! :O

The first point in your >>616 post, that I notice here, is "stupid things thats been happening lately". <- What's with that? Did she even tell you what things "stupid things" are? If not then that could be bad...she might have made it up if so.

No reply? ouch...but don't assume the worst just yet!
Maybe, if possible, call or leave a message, letting her know that you're concerned. EXAMPLE: "Hey, um, I was just calling to say hi, and I've been a little concerned about you lately...I would like to talk to you sometime, k, ttyl!"

^something like that would be nice. If you can't get her to talk to you, then leave a message like this to show concern, since really it's the truth, that you're concerned right? If you don't know what's bothering her then you don't have any clue if it's anything related to you in any way. Even if you've already done this, and hasn't worked, keep trying every now and then, but not too much! Main point in trying to get a hold of her is to find out what's wrong right? I think if you show some kind of concern in a message she may call you or message you somehow...

anyway...it's a step. x.x
Btw, are you sure if she's single?

Best wishes >>映画男

No problem really. :D
I read the whole thread a few days ago, and I can say I am touched by your story, and truly wish you the best in the end of it! But, it's not over yet! And you're right, you can't just constantly be positive, because you have to be concerned with certain things at some points! But you can't let yourself become negative either!
Truly, the ultimate battle!!! :O

The first point in your >>616 post, that I notice here, is "stupid things thats been happening lately". <- What's with that? Did she even tell you what things "stupid things" are? If not then that could be bad...she might have made it up if so.

No reply? ouch...but don't assume the worst just yet!
Maybe, if possible, call or leave a message, letting her know that you're concerned. EXAMPLE: "Hey, um, I was just calling to say hi, and I've been a little concerned about you lately...I would like to talk to you sometime, k, ttyl!"

^something like that would be nice. If you can't get her to talk to you, then leave a message like this to show concern, since really it's the truth, that you're concerned right? If you don't know what's bothering her then you don't have any clue if it's anything related to you in any way. Even if you've already done this, and hasn't worked, keep trying every now and then, but not too much! Main point in trying to get a hold of her is to find out what's wrong right? I think if you show some kind of concern in a message she may call you or message you somehow...

anyway...it's a step. x.x
Btw, are you sure if she's single?

Best wishes 映画男!! Never give in! -H.K.

618 Name: H.K. : 2008-06-29 18:30 ID:our7dskT

oh man sorry >.< I double posted in my >>617 post XD I had copied it so I wouldn't lose it if my connection went down because I'm having a couple connectivity issues right now lol. sorry!
-H.K.

619 Name: 映画男 : 2008-07-01 22:52 ID:U1Vwd2DO

>>617 I got a reply back the other day saying "yeh sorry for not telling you anything lol, hows things going?", seems like she's fine. I'm gonna try ask her out this friday for a movie, hopefully she can go. I've only called her like once every two days or so for the last 5 days to see whats going on, but she hasn't picked up, which is normal lol cos her phone is always on silence and apparently there is this guy who keeps calling her none stop, but i'm not too worried about the guy cos i know who it is lol, his just really desperate for girls.

620 Name: H.K. : 2008-07-03 11:21 ID:our7dskT

>>映画男

Hmm, I see. We'll at least things seem a better than your last post >>616 :) Maybe things will keep looking up!

And yes, it's good you know who the guy is and his reason for calling her. What a jerk lol.
We'll, good luck Eiga! I hope things go well when you ask her out!

-H.K.

621 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-05 20:54 ID:our7dskT

It's already been a day since Eiga was supposed to ask her out...it's so quiet in here...~_~

622 Name: 映画男 : 2008-07-12 14:55 ID:VyTO+CNT

sorry for late reply - -

well i went out with the girl, with other friend as well but that wasnt such a problem lol. she seem to always bump into me and gets really close to me, which is a good sign i think =] we went for a movie as a group (i paid for her movie), after the movie she came back to my apartment cos she said she wanted to see where i live (i live by my self now in the city with a roommate from high school), first thing she does is ask if she can borrow my T-shirt so its more comfortable. next thing she does she helps me wash my dishes - - which i feel pretty bad about while me and 3 other guys are playing card games, i kept asking if she needs help but shes like "nah its ok! you guys play". later on me, her and one of my friend went to the supermarket to buy some food cos she waned me to cook, on the way home she said she didnt feel too good so i carried her home. after dinner, we went to the river for a walk including 2 other guys, we sat there and she said her hands were cold so i said "here' and held her hands to warm them up ;D she didnt let go and i have to say her hands were seriously cold - - on the way home, she armlock with me, went back to my place again and talked, on the way to send her to the tram stop, i said i was gonna carry her stuff and she just looked at me and kept smiling without saying anything. i think things are going very well ;D but there a major problem shes having which i'm doing my best to help that i think i'll tell you guys on the next post. Eiga out =]

623 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-12 15:06 ID:1Nl851Mc

>i said i was gonna carry her stuff and she just looked at me and kept smiling without saying anything.

You probably should (or at least could) have kissed her at that point, you know?

624 Name: 映画男 : 2008-07-13 07:15 ID:NwWnzsnD

>>623 couldnt really do it cos there were other people around =/

the problem i was talking about on my previous post, is that the girl right now has very big financial problems, i shouldnt really talk about it here but overall, the problem is big enough that she wont be able to stay in school next term apparently. I really want to help her out but i really dont know how =/ i offered her half of what i get in my job which is like $150 AUD an hour. last night i told her that "thing may be bad right now but trust me, everything will work out =], i promise you that i'll be here for you with help and support till the very end" and she replied back sayinh "aaww..thanks so much, i seriously need this, and your support means alot," i'm helping her find a job at the moment and told her to go look for some short courses in university that she can take, money seems to be the biggest problem for her now since her parents are over seas etc (cant really say anything =/) what should i do?

625 Name: 映画男 : 2008-07-13 07:15 ID:NwWnzsnD

>>623 couldnt really do it cos there were other people around =/

the problem i was talking about on my previous post, is that the girl right now has very big financial problems, i shouldnt really talk about it here but overall, the problem is big enough that she wont be able to stay in school next term apparently. I really want to help her out but i really dont know how =/ i offered her half of what i get in my job which is like $150 AUD an hour. last night i told her that "thing may be bad right now but trust me, everything will work out =], i promise you that i'll be here for you with help and support till the very end" and she replied back sayinh "aaww..thanks so much, i seriously need this, and your support means alot," i'm helping her find a job at the moment and told her to go look for some short courses in university that she can take, money seems to be the biggest problem for her now since her parents are over seas etc (cant really say anything =/) what should i do?

626 Name: 映画男 : 2008-07-13 07:51 ID:NwWnzsnD

btw sorry for double posting =[ clicked twice by accident

627 Name: lil_snow.angel : 2008-07-13 09:33 ID:ytHJ/hOv

dude, i think ur obsessed over girls. no offense though, eiga otoko. i'm a chinese too. but i reckon at first, u wanted to seek advice about long-distance relationship n that was ok. but then from there, u started to jump from one girl to another. maybe u should leave girls out of your mind for a bit? i don't know- just giving some decent advice =]
u know how when u lose stuff, u seem to never be able to find it no matter how hard u look? then, for some reason, when u stop looking for it, it comes back to u. well, love is sorta like that. u won't be able to find true love by searching endlessly for it. u just have to wait for the right moment for it to come to u. =]

628 Name: H.K. : 2008-07-18 08:21 ID:our7dskT

>>627 No! I really don't think he's obsessed at all. There's nothing wrong with him searching for that someone out there. >>627 You have some points, about the way love is, with it coming to you and all, I know this...for a fact. But if you don't have the will to search, or have the amazing will as Eiga does, then who knows if you'll even have the will to maintain when "it" does come.

Eiga Otoko! DON'T GIVE UP! You're so close right now! Things have changed tremendously now! She has shown many good signs! And I'm so proud of you! The good signs you have shown, many have shown as well! Always be there for her, and be as kind as you can! You're soaring now Eiga! Now we gotta keep you in flight!

As for what you should do...Well, being so supportive is really already the first start...if you feel you can help her out financially, that's your choice, and showing her how much you're willing, and how much you care is a BIG impact! From what you've told us in the last 2 big posts of yours, is that you've made some pretty big important impacts here. Keep it up!!
Helping her so much with money and job and advice and all...you're doing it! You're doing exactly what you should do. I for one can't think of anything else you can really do right now. Just never stop the support! It means more than you may know!
You're awesome Eiga! Keep soaring!!!

-HK

629 Name: H.K. : 2008-08-02 22:36 ID:our7dskT

Eiga! It's been 15 days! ;-;
Hope all is still well! ^_^

-HK

630 Name: Plasmid : 2008-08-04 07:36 ID:03cQUpBY

Quite interesting story of you.. may i know where you are?

631 Name: H.K. : 2008-08-04 12:32 ID:our7dskT

Apparently, Eiga Otoko is from Australia, I believe.

T-T and still hasn't returned...now it's been almost 18 days!

632 Name: H.K. : 2008-08-20 18:39 ID:p473IhwL

About 38 days and counting...
>>627 probably screwed everything up >.<

映画男! Did something bad happen?? T_T It's ok to come back here. I wont think badly of you. You've gotta be here...;-;

633 Name: 映画男 : 2008-08-25 14:40 ID:RzJsywRT

D: sorry for not replying for ages, i've been so busy with production cos i was working on a music video and recording music. hmm its going pretty good with the girl, seeing as i was so busy i only got to keep on contact with email. surprisingly in her email she admitted she bitched about me once a year ago and it was understandable cos i had a fight with her best friend last year cos she was being really stalkish to me so i forgave her for that =]

shes never called in since i known her, last friday out of the blue she called me and asked me what she can get for her sisters 24th bday cos she was looking for present, so i came and helped her out which turned out pretty good, was really surprised that she called me, so things are going pretty good.

her birthday is coming up soon and i'm deciding what will be good to give her, seeing that shes turning 18 i think i should get someone nice, any suggestions?

634 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-10-22 09:52 ID:ulTNLmTa

Well, it's been about a month and a half...wonder how Eiga's doing...

635 Name: 映画男 : 2008-10-25 17:22 ID:ZuW1pudW

sorry for all the slow replies D:

she broke up with me on her birthday =/

636 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-10-30 22:54 ID:agcvVuYV

>>635

ouch. burn her at the stake.

637 Name: 映画男 : 2008-11-13 17:41 ID:HRgNEu8L

>>635 lol, close enough, more of rejection.

i havnt been doing much since the day she rejected me, though hurt as usual and thought i lost the one i really love, however i realized loosing one, i gained one. i found a girl whos been close to me for this entire year, i never realized i had one next to me till now, we love each other and i finally get a happy ending = ] waited for quiet a long time but i finally found my happiness, i want to spend my time wisely with her and cherish all the moments = ]

i guess thats the end of my story haha

638 Name: 映画男 : 2008-11-29 14:07 ID:Df2ve2EA

lol sadly my story continues as the girl was just playing around with me.... *sigh

the story goes on

639 Name: GOD : 2008-11-29 17:33 ID:Heaven

That sucks. Two rejections i couldn't handle.

640 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-11-30 12:41 ID:ulTNLmTa

Don't give up Eiga!

641 Name: 映画男 : 2008-12-22 07:32 ID:Heaven

>>639 try 14 times man = =

i've decided to leave australia to go to japan next year, hopefully it'll be better =]

642 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-11 17:16 ID:83XvXP2I

Eiga r u still alive?

643 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-11 17:19 ID:Heaven

>>642 i believe this thread has been dead for centuries

644 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-11 22:05 ID:3m4ljO98

>>642 im sure Eiga lives out there, somewhere..

645 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-12 09:54 ID:Heaven

>>644
Yeah, not taking our advice, and getting played by girls.
Frankly I got tired after the second girl he was chasing.
He always asked for advice, and never took it, even though later he realised he should have.
Ran out of empathy and encouragement for him a long time ago.

646 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-13 06:53 ID:Heaven

R.I.P Eiga Otoko.. where ever you are

647 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-13 16:16 ID:exwRKDcB

>>645 aww.. well maybe he was terrified of the given advice? :P so he thought its better to do as he actually dared like :P

>>646 im sure he aint dead :3 (least i hope so)

648 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-14 18:55 ID:pGlRBNsZ

>>645 well people learn from their mistakes, im sure he learned ALOT due to his rejections, though i seriously wonder why he disappeared all of a sudden....

649 Name: Ryuuchi : 2009-06-15 10:28 ID:dXpp8upa

Phew, I finally caught on most of the things. This is the longest thread I have ever read in my entire forums life.

Anywho, I have followed most of Eiga Otoko's posts and it seems he has good and bad times when it comes to girls. For some reason when one girl doesn't turn out well for him, he suddenly has a back up which was interesting. Somethings tells me that Eiga Otoko's a guy who is better approaching girls than I do? Lol.

It's been about 6 months and there's no reply from him. I really want to hear what's going on with his life right now and I feel that I want to support him. Eiga Otoko, your story is so much interesting than Densha Otoko's story. Densha Otoko experienced only one girl when you have experienced more than one. I don't give a damn about the negative comments that are given to you. To me, you seem to be a kool guy and that I envy you to have talked with the girls you've known longer than me. You have impressed me so far. There are a lot of things I want to say and I just hate to type it all here and have people read all the long words I've typed. To sum it all up: Eiga Otoko, you have never given up at life, your own life and it is amazing how you went this far and I want you to keep moving forward. You are someone I probably become one of my inspirations because of you experiences you've told here. A lot of people have their ups and downs and you should know that, everyone should know that. It's awesome that people here are giving you advice to help you out. It is just that this whole thread seem so surreal to me but it's for real. It's the real deal.

So, Eiga Otoko. If you are still lurking around here in 4CH and you are reading this. I've decided to help you out because you are the man. You are the man. Don't give up, keep moving forward, and do what you want to do in your life in the right way. I'm behind you all the way as well as others here who want to help you out too. =)

650 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-16 11:45 ID:Heaven

>>649
There are two fat reasons why Densha is different from Eiga;

  1. Densha actually listened to the posters of the thread
  2. He also got the girl in the end (who unlike Eiga's girls, was a bloody catch)

651 Name: miyuzaki : 2009-06-16 17:45 ID:4YwyZbyv

>>650 but if you think about it, eiga's girl was pretty bitchty the way they act towards him

652 Name: Ryuuchi : 2009-06-16 20:21 ID:dXpp8upa

Maybe, due to his obsession over them, he was being forceful? Because I noticed that he would ask a girl out and then later on, it turns out bad. Maybe the question to ask a girl out is the effect of it.

653 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-17 10:26 ID:Heaven

>>651
Exactly. He was just a horny teenage boy that couldn't see that girls kept using him. It was like he just chased anything that walked on two legs. To compare him to Densha, is like comparing a goddess and a hag.

654 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-06-21 02:20 ID:Heaven

Like a lot of others, this is the longest thread I've ever read in my life...

I think that Eiga really should have listened to the "Take a break from girls for a while." advice, since it seemed like a string of girls were just waiting their turn to mess with him, and having so many rejections in that short of time probably made him a little desperate for something that wasn't just another girl messing with him. (That's from observation IRL though, I can't really speak for Eiga of course)

I hope Eiga's well though, wherever he ended up.

As a woman, I seem to have lost faith in a lot of my gender after reading this thread though orz...

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656 Name: Lawliet : 2009-06-26 01:37 ID:3YGwCwyo

somehow i get the feeling eiga is reading this but not replying.... but hey eiga if your there, tell us whats going on after all that experience you went through. best of luck!

657 Name: 映画男 : 2009-07-21 15:21 ID:0eLfLFAT

Im back!! :D

658 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-07-21 17:45 ID:exwRKDcB

>>657 hi :]

659 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-07-23 08:41 ID:3gstMBzZ

This was quite the epic thread. Took some time to read, but....

Firstly, this Eiga man went through an inhuman of girls in the span of 2 years. Congrats on that, buddy. I really do hope you find a good girl to settle down with; one that doesn't decide to dump your ass like they've all seemed to do. I'm actually amazed you still even had a sliver of confidence after all those subsequent rejections you were put through; I'm sure most men would have given up on life in general. You're a unique creature, Eiga; one that must have the worst luck with relationships in all of humankind. With all that said, I have the utmost respect for your perserverance; you're like that of a soldier who disregards orders and continues to go after the enemy, even after your fellow soldiers abandon/betray you, and the bullets of said enemies continue to riddle your heart with pain and sadness.

Fight on, my friend. Show us man can not only live through Hell, but escape into Heaven.

660 Name: densha : 2009-07-23 12:41 ID:1tUIAEUa

KITAAAAAA!!!!

661 Name: 映画男 : 2009-08-04 15:20 ID:ny4p+MLh

well a lot has happened while i was gone from this thread, i got rejected on valentines day by the same girl last year (yes i know it was stupid) but funny thing was i did nothing that day, i was on the way to meet her, saw someone selling flowers so i thought it would be a nice present since she agreed to go out with me on valentines day. so i arrived with one flower and she saw it immediately said "you realize i dont like you right?", was really shattered since that day that i was literally in pain for the last 5 months.

the girl never talked to me since valentines day, i dont know why but last year when she rejected me she still talked to me as if nothing happened. well she avoided me during those 5 months, i was very shattered that i stand on my balcony watching the sunrise for about a week or two, March wasnt a very good month for me.. i was about to graduate from my course and i had no motivation due to the rejection, one of my best friend blamed me for this stupid thing she has in her mind, she tries very hard to fit in my group but doesnt fit and blames me cos they're my friends....and later just talks shit about me to everyone. plus on valentines day that night, since i was shattered i called her up saying i feel like shit, she just says "oh im tiredd so i thnk i'll go home" , i had to literally nag her to come out which she did, gave me a massive lecture about how me and the girl didnt fit, how she thinks me and her wont work out, how i dont appreciate what i have and so on. that really hit me cos she basiclly just spilled out what she thinks of me and to be honest, i wasnt really looking for a damn lecture after being so shattered. so i went to find one of my friend who at the time broke up with his ex girlfriend and was also shattered, we decided to start going clubbing to get back in our live and move on.

662 Name: 映画男 : 2009-08-04 15:21 ID:ny4p+MLh

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first night was a major disaster, there was a big event in this club called SEVEN and had alot of people from melbourne university club called AA, me and my friend waited in line for 3 hours, i saw one of my best friends come out cos he got in first since he was a member of AA, i suddenly say LYSS who i havnt seen for a year and a half since she rejected me. god that night i felt like someone just shot me with a sniper rifle like 10 times into my chest, i felt so awkward seeing her that i was like " LYSS!!......hi...." and she saw me and said hi in a very awkward way as well. i couldn't take it cos i still felt awkward seeing her especially in a club, so me and my friend left since we couldn't get in anyway. the next day, i had a break down when i talked to one of my good friend, i dont know why but my friend could see through me that i still wasnt over her when i thought i was... which was pretty strange for me since i hardly talked to lyss. during that week, i lost my wallet with my rent money, really drove me mad cos i was seriously thinking "this must be the end...." i nearly lost all my hope, the girl of my dreams rejected me on valentines day, my rent money is gone and couldnt pay the rent, i almost failed my course due to lack of motivation since i was skipping my set when we were filming, didnt know i wasnt over lyss when i thought i was. i was on the urge of running away, i went to one secret place i always go to, turned my phone off and just sat there for a whole night thinking. i guess what kept me fighting was that, i realized i lost everything, so now i had nothing to loose, and i know out there people still needed me. so i decided to go back and kept fighting all those problems that was going on.

me and my other friend, we went to anther club the next week which we managed to get in. he taught me what to do as a wingman, how it works etc. he got me hooked up with some girl in the club and since that night, every friday night he would come to my place, we do some pre-drinks and head to a club, we met a lot of new people esp some new friends as well, though my reputation made me look like some player but i must admit, it did help me move on from valentines day. though every 14th i just feel weird and would stand on my balcony till sunrise. i didnt always hook up in club, i just liked the atmosphere where people are here to enjoy the night and have fun, which was my main thing, to have fun. my social life began to grow pretty big, having karaoke sessions with new friends and heading to bars or new clubs every week, things were starting to look good =D

663 Name: 映画男 : 2009-08-04 15:22 ID:ny4p+MLh

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was really enjoying my life since april, may and june was good intill end of june. i had a new interest at a girl for about a month, we were hitting a club that night since she asked me to go with her. at the dance floor, there was this guy that kept on grabbing her and she would like scream, so i kept pushing the guy away from her but he kept coming back, i had to shove him really hard to tell him to back off but for some reason, this guy doenst give up! so the girl was like "its ok" and she started talking to him. again i saw the guy like hugging her and she looked rather awkward so i came and pushed him away, his friend came over and was like "whats wrong buddy" and im like "nothing! maybe you should watch your friend more carefully" . so after that he just asked her no, and left, BUT since that night, the girl and the guy had been talking alot, especially his korean since the girl was into korean guys. 2 weeks later, me and the girl went clubbing again with her friend, she didnt feel to good so we took her to her friends apartment, i looked after her for about 30 minutes and told her to lie down, but she was going on "I need to call the guy.... i have to call him" and lied on the bed and started calling the other guy. her friend knew i was interested and kinda gave me a "im so sorry for you" look =/ i was a bit down so i went to find my best friend and stayed there for the night. the next day, i promised my friend i would go find his ex girlfriend and talk to her for him, we went to her work place but she wasnt there so went back to my place and called her, had a bit of a talk with her. later i hang up, i got a call and i thought was the ex gf, the girl was like "do you know who i am?" and i was like "umm who are you?" and she said "omg..: and hanged up. after a 4 minute think, i realized it was the valentines girl fro the things she said to me. i was damn excited to receive a call from her since i didnt hear from her for so long, then regret it cos i messed it up..

664 Name: 映画男 : 2009-08-04 15:24 ID:ny4p+MLh

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during that week, i went to my best friends place with my new best friends (a girl i met at a club, started talking to her alot), and that night, the best friend (girl) was rather flirty and touchy with my best friend and made me rather awkward cos i felt like a third wheel, so i left early cos they were like all hugging and stuff (plus they hooked up in club before), that night i called the girl i was interested and she told me she was interested in the korean guy, i was kinda down in a way knowing i shoulda just shoved him even harder that night, some weird stuff happened that night between my best friend which im not gonna mention ;) later that night i had some drinks with my friends and had maybe bit over. i called the girl who was into the korean guy and kept saying "why dont you like me? is it cos im korean? is he better then me?" over the phone, she said to me "dont say that.." and apparently i was crying when i said those stuff according to my friends. we later saw her on the streets with the korean guy and apparently i went up to the guy and said "IM GONNA SPANK YOUR ASS SO HARD YOUR MOTHERS NOT GONNA RECOGNIZE YOU (wtf was in my head..dont ask me) and the girl was like "go home and rest, ill call you later", but she never did, we had a talk that night and i know she was pissed at me so i didnt talk to her that much. cos in the end, she was with the korean guy... i was lost again that week due that i had to pack up my entire apartment in 1 weeks time since i was leaving melbourne australia for Taiwan, plus i pissed off my best friend (girl) cos of being all drunk and doing stupid things so she kinda ignored me for a few days. my best friend (girl) came to my place at 3am after clubbing cos i wanted to talk to her and she said she wanted to talk as well, so she came over and told me why she was pissed at me, said i always do stupid stuff and regret it, not listening to people. i have to admit, i was really lost, mainly due to the apartment stress plus about the korean guy and my best friend, the next day i broke down and for some reason... i called lyss. she picked up not knowing it was me and was surprised, i had a little talk with her and later called my other good friend for the entire day. i dont know why i was so lost during that time but since that night, i managed to fix up all my shit with the apartment, with the girl and korean guy and my best friend. my best friend (girl) was going to the states for holiday, i went to the airport 30 mins before her arrival to give her my thanks and a present, though she missed her flight and was surprised to see me, that night we went to my best friends place again and us 3 just mucked around, writing alot of things in my journal and had a great night, i didnt sleep cos i had to meet up with my dad that morning for breakfast in Crown Casino, and i had to fix my passport and move all my things in one day without any sleep. that night i had a little gathering with some friends and had the most enjoyable night i ever had, listening to all my friends problems and fix it that night and trying to meet as many friends as i can. sadly there was a few i couldnt meet before i leave but it was still good to see some friends before i leave.

btw sorry for such a long post :P i'll try update this more XD

665 Name: 映画男 : 2009-08-04 15:25 ID:ny4p+MLh

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i left melbourne the next day, wishing i had more time to see some people, a certain person i wanted to see before i leave, the valentines girl. i wanted to see her when she finished her job before i left but i didnt have enough time. maybe it was better i didnt see her. now im in taiwan, with a new life, knowing what im doing, plus the valentines girl just replied my email today which means we're gonna start talking =] its been a long long wait, 5 months wait for an email reply, reminds me of back at the time when i was waiting for Aya's email, except this time it was bigger, plus it was her who called me that day, she said she was annoyed that i sounded like i didnt really care and had no idea what i was talking about. i was so happy to get her reply cos knowing something i lost is back, makes me feel really happy. I must say, this year so many things have happened, i also had some family problems back in march which im not proud to say, loosing hope could be the worst feeling in life, but i have to say is.... never loose hope, cos hope is what keeps you fighting, to the road that you will have to take. I may have done some stupid things not listening to people, but i must say i have learned alot from all my mistakes so that i wont do it again. my life this year may have felt like hell to me for a while, but when you keep fighting, you will escape into your own heaven. FIGHT ON PEOPLE AND LIVE YOUR DREAMS!

btw sorry for such a long post :P i'll try update this more XD

666 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-08-05 18:13 ID:eBKphWkX

I think that's the kind of attitude you need to have sometimes in life, Eiga. That's good that you're doing well! Taiwan may be a nice place to start over, and hopefully finally find someone nice.

Please find a nice girl somewhere for yourself. Like 659 said, you've gone through relationship crap most of us can't even imagine, and it's probably about time you got something for it. Good luck =D

667 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-08-07 12:42 ID:5CynNJ48

>>659
I'm sorry, although I applaud Eiga for his "get up and go" attitude, I really can't see any epicness in this thread..

I think that you will find that the ones who have been advising Eiga to take a break from girls are girls themselves. The ones who have been blindly encouraging him are the guys. I don't mean to sound sexist or egotistical, but I think that us girls have a better perspective on this. We know the type of girls that Eiga has fallen head over heels for in the past couple of years. Some of us may have even been those type of girls. So we have some idea of the type of guy that Eiga is, and have advised him to let love come to him, instead of the other way around.

Rejection after rejection will make one desperate and needy. Girls are smart in that they can pick this up a mile away and are repulsed by it. Some (like the ones in Eiga's life) however, will take advantage of it.

I wish I had kinder words to say to you Eiga, but I guess I'm a bit cynical of you when your heart seems to jump from one girl to the next within the space of a minute.

668 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-08-07 15:00 ID:Heaven

I must admit, its not easy for Eiga to come along the path his been taking. it seems that Eiga has given us the impression that he cant settle down with one girl since his jumping from one girl to another. but if you dont mind me asking you Eiga, did any of your previous rejections made you hurt so bad you just dont want to feel like that again so you use girls as an excuse to cover it up? from experience, i know if a guy really likes a girl that when he gets rejected, his hurt so bad he just goes for another girl so he doesnt feel that pain, but deep down, they are never over the girl. from your latest post, i believe that Eiga wasnt over lyss, and was trying to find ways to get over her, hence he gives people the impression his desperate. but more of desperate of moving on from what i think, you cant really blame eiga, as a guy, we like to act tough so when we get rejected, we dont act all sad about it but go for another girl to make it look like we moved on from the previous girl. I really admire Eigas way of dealing life, not just romance in general but also his own problems he has to face, most guys would go insane when so much stuff happens at once, but eiga was able to cope with it and keep going, Good job EIga =]

but i agree with >>667 you should let love it self come to you instead of looking for it, cos the more you look for it the further it is. but i think in eigas case its a little different, thats what i think anyway.

669 Name: 659 in case you're too lazy to look at the anon id : 2009-08-07 21:16 ID:3gstMBzZ

>>667
Notice my previous post was blatantly exaggerated. Maybe not enough, seeing as how you didn't notice. "Epic" was a part of that exaggeration. I agree that this thread was not on the level of epic, and I also agree that a big part of all those rejections he recieved was, indeed, his fault - unknowingly, of course; which is a big reason why he feels the victim. Yet, as I'm sure he knows all that by now, don't you think it'd be better to, maybe, encourage him onto the right path? I read your surmise - about you being cynical and the like - but I'm sure that's because you felt like you needed to solidify a point he should have already had implanted in his mind.

Or, maybe I'm wrong, and am overestimating Eiga in his ability to read into why his relationships have gone wrong; maybe even overestimating his ability to read. If that is the case, maybe your post helped him more than a post filled with words of encouragement - maybe - if his ability to read truly isn't impaired beyond salvation - the point you females have been trying to make has finally hit home, and it may change the way he approaches relationships for the better - that is, not approaching relationships.

Hey, if you want some of my advice, I'd say it'd probably be better to not become the go-to boy for advice - the one who'll help the problems of [the one you like] without expecting anything in return. That's one thing your failed relationships have had in common - maybe that's telling you something? Or maybe it was something else. Think, Eiga, and maybe you'll find a solution to fix the root of your relationship problems.

Or maybe it'd be best not to think at all. Great, now I'm confused. To end this tl;dr with a nice, warm, fuzzy comment: YOU CAN DO IT, EIGA! I BELIEVE IN YOU!

670 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-08-08 17:28 ID:r7YpnFnB

>>669

You're right, most people respond better with encouragement rather than blunt words/advice. But I guess that I feel slightly frustrated when Eiga seems to make the same mistake time and time again, without learning from it. No matter how much the point is reiterated, it seems to go unheard. And I have a feeling that it's not going to change no matter how we repackage the advice.

For the record, I find your attitude of considering everyone's view points, and acknowledging them, very refreshing. I wish there were more guys like you.

671 Name: 映画男 : 2009-09-13 07:07 ID:lSKxNqE6

>>667 yeah its true, at the start the rejections did made me pretty desperate, which is what caused the jump from one girl to another i reckom =/ i guess i took the hard way to learn things when i could have taken a easier path.

>>668 yeah, i took lyss's rejection pretty bad =/ i was pretty lost at the time cos i didnt know if i should hang on to lyss or just move on, so i thought if i moved on it would be better aka try to see other people. to be honest, lyss rejected me pretty harsly =/ most of my friends called her a bitch cos she was saying how i worship her or something making it sound like im so clingy to her. but that was the past, and yeah it took some time to get over her.

>>669 it took me a while but i did figure out what my problem is, i tend to rush things and which makes me look really desperate, e.g. there was one time i was way too nice to a girl at the start and it made it look obvious that i was into her, also i kept calling her everyday. recently i took things slower and didnt rush things, and it seems to work out pretty good with this girl i met, we naturally connect with a short amount of time but she had to move back to USA to study so i just remained good friends with her, i was planing on confessing but in the end i didnt, i wanted to save it to make it more special if the chance ever comes up in the future.

anyway i just moved into college dorm, class starts tomorrow so everythings new again, everything seems pretty good so far :)

672 Name: 659 : 2009-09-16 00:24 ID:atiAzGLb

>>671
Good show, Eiga. Looks like you've identified the problem, and solved it; that's not an easy thing to do. I'm sure you'll meet a fine girl at your college that'll stay your wandering heart. I think you should probably leave out the confessing part until you truly see signs of her liking you back; blindly confessing just because you've known her for some time and really like her is not a good idea, even if you've kicked things off well. Flirt, show interest subtly, and see how she responds to it - you don't want to land a permanent just-friends relationship with the girl you like.

Anyways, good luck and such with life and love and all that jazz. Keep us updated, because we all love you deep down in our hearts.

Adios.

673 Name: WaiWuLong : 2009-09-17 11:25 ID:/XCfM88p

Hi Eiga,

I've read a little bit about your story. I get the gist of it. But if I were you (in fact, I've been rejected by girls too) I would ban these bitches forever, away from my heart. If they don't accept my attention and after all I've done for them, then they really don't deserve it. So, my game plan is as soon as a girl says "No", I leave her and move to the next one.

Fark it, there are more wonderful things to experience out there than regretting over rejection in a sad little-squared bedroom.

674 Name: 映画男 : 2009-09-26 19:11 ID:TqQ7bDJ6

well its been a while, college life is really good, met a lot good people in my dorm. i met a girl in my class, every night we go out for walks from 10 to 12am, first night we just ate at the cafeteria, then went out for a walk and talked a bit, we walked through a dark alley and she just grabbed my arm. 2nd night, we walked to a dark place again, and i just grabbed her hand, we started to hold hands and walked around, we found a place and lied down, looked at the stars and started talking. she said she wants to come visit australia with me next year. this week, we started holding hands again, there are times our faces are so close we almost kissed, she sometimes just stares at me and i'll ask her "whats wrong?" and she just say "nothing, just looking at you", she tends to stare at me a lot when we sit down.

today during my birthday, we went to starbucks, she brought me 2 cakes and started feeding me xD tomorrow shes gonna have dinner with my parents, wonder how thats gonna go =D

eiga out

675 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-09-27 23:19 ID:Heaven

>>674
Why didn't you straight up kiss her, on any of those occasions? Wait, I haven't read this 674 post thread but I'm betting you're one of THOSE PEOPLE who is too shy to do anything even when you really want to.

676 Name: 映画男 : 2009-09-28 16:06 ID:xpHMuADX

fuck i just found out she had a bf and she just got dumped the day before my birthday...

fuck i feel like i was used again, oh well

677 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-09-28 17:58 ID:gplnmUeq

>>676
Or, their relationship was going stale anyway and now she's free to get closer to you.

I think this might well be the case.

678 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-09-28 22:30 ID:atiAzGLb

Remember, if you actively pursue her like you have with the other girls, you'll just end up in heartbreak like before. If you like her, let her continue with her advances, and act on them. If you don't like her, reject her advances or straight-out tell her so. Also, did she go up to you and tell you she was dumped? If she didn't say so personally, it could actually have been her that dumped her boyfriend, leading to the conclusion that she dumped him for you. It was before your birthday, so she might have decided she'd go after you without restraint now that she is free of a relationship; if true, then she's truly interested in you, Eiga. Now all's you've gotta do is court her some and she's yours for a girlfriend, baby. No garuntees it will last, but hey, it's a start.

679 Name: 映画男 : 2009-09-29 04:59 ID:/T+speQI

at the moment shes just really sad about being dumped by her bf, the day before my birthday, she was telling me how she regretted coming back home, i asked her why but she said she'll tell me another day, the next day when i met her, she told me in person that she was dumped by her bf and was crying for the whole night. at the start i was pretty shocked but not pissed off, but yesterday in class i kept thinking about it, i feel like shes using me as a rebound, cos she said last night she saw the break up coming, kept asking me why he doesnt want her etc.

i did had a talk with her the other day asking whats going on between us, she said "i treat you like a family, but i like it when your around." im a little upset how she didnt tell me she had a bf since we were so flirty during our walks at night, kinda makes me feel if i go out with her, she might do the same thing with other guys when im not around. my dorm friends said i should just ignore her and find someone else, but i dont know. i just think its harsh if she treats me like her brother and i ignore her during these bad times =/

680 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-10-22 03:34 ID:Heaven

man she sounds like a bitch, DUMP HER AGAIN!

681 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-11-04 03:23 ID:Heaven

is it just me or does eiga just attract bitches

682 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-03 03:04 ID:Ep9wf7O/

its been like months! what happened eiga?

683 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-03 03:11 ID:atiAzGLb

>>682
Most likely, he 'twas finally eaten by the Mother Bitch Bear. He's got a fierce natural Bitch Bear musk, after all.

684 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-06 06:46 ID:xk2ref1/

Eiga,

Fuck the bitches' feelings. You gotta start looking after Number 1. Stop letting yourself be used, and show some backbone. Seems like you're always the nice guy, the guy a girl can dump all her emotional bullshit on.

No mas.

685 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-10 03:40 ID:khFDCwAg

>>681 eiga is like a bitch magnet,

anyway you should just ignore her, shes either one of those who just want attention from guys or she was just playing around with you. and yes i agree with >>684, fuck the bitches feelings, think of your self for once eiga! best of luck

686 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-13 06:52 ID:/Tr+fAMz

My take on it is that she knew her bf was losing interest in her, so she was trying to get some affection from you.

She totally played you man. Family, no matter how close, don't go walking hand in hand for hours every night.

687 Name: 映画男 : 2009-12-23 07:00 ID:mmAgL+OI

well its been a while, i end up dumping the girl later on, didnt talk to her after that and im she sure realized why, well college life is pretty intense! been doing alot of performance cos i joined the piano club, recording my own music and doing alot of assignments. I've been pretty close to this girl i met in the piano club, i talk to her like till 4am every day. last night i had a performance and i told her i was gonna perform a song i made for her and she really liked it. theres been like 2-3 girls whos like been trying to get close to me, they're not bad but im taking it slow, since college life is pretty busy.

688 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-25 11:40 ID:txnG7i+w

Hello Eiga Otoko

Im sorry if this has already been mentioned i have not read all of the thread recently as it's grown fairly large and my eyes are getting strained. Although i can understand from such posts you have been actively getting into new relationships and such.

Has there been any development with your first love Aya? Or has it completely blown over? I mean this thread was made over her so now it practically seems like this thread is just a output for your current personal life.

You may disregard my comment if you'd like although i mean no hostility, but i think you have accumulated enough experience and advice to make your own decisions now. So i find it strange for you to remain discussing the predicaments of all your love-interests as a open book. If they could read this do you think they would be happy about it?

689 Name: Secret Admirer : 2009-12-29 19:36 ID:Heaven

>>688 dudddeee, aya is history, Eiga can do better then aya since she disappears too much, plus eiga entertains us with his never ending love life lol

690 Name: Anonymous : 2010-01-25 23:01 ID:Heaven

Is this thread dead?

691 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-02-15 20:19 ID:Heaven

it can be alive if you want ;)

692 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-02-23 23:33 ID:Heaven

>>690 It's up to little ol' Eiga to revive it, I'd say.

693 Name: 映画男 : 2010-02-26 10:38 ID:Yzg/eBxC

its been a while, thought i'll make an update

the girl i dumped ages ago is still trying to get back in touch with me, but i've just been avoiding her in college, though we sometimes just chat since i thought we can still be friends. lucky i dumped her cos shes one of those girls who just flirts randomly with any guys she sees. she always touches my neck every time she sees me for some reason

theres a girl in my class that has a crush on me for a while, shes 2 years younger then me and she always tries to talk to me in class when ever she sits next to me, even tried to ask me out one on one. but apparently her group of friends are pretty bitchy, e.g one of her group was interested in me for a while, always talked to me when ever no one was around, but her group found out and was making fun of her so she stopped talking to me ever since, so this girl always talk to me whenever the group isnt around. im pretty sure she hinted a confession to me once after class, i was standing outside the classroom waiting for my friend, she walks by and says "im waiting for your 1066 (1066 was a song i made about valentines day rejection, 1066 meant i knew the girl for 1066 days) "

There's this other girl whos what people call "the hottest" in this other class, i met her during orientation camp, though im in the same class as her in one of my subjects, we dont really talk in class since she sits like 3 tables behind me. she always starts a convo with me and ask where i disappear to after class lol. she found out i had a piano performance and said she would only come just to see me, but due to some situation she didnt come and she said she felt guilty about it, which i told her wasnt a big deal so she said she was going to make chocolate her self and give to me as a gift for not showing up my performance. which she actually did make the chocolate and even made a nice card. it was chinese new year last week and as a joke i said i will give her a red pocket since im older, and she says "hehe i'll look forward to ur red pocket :))"

the girl that i performed for her last time has been a big progress going on. we talked a lot on the phone during our vacation break, there was one time i was singing karaoke with friends, she called so i went out to talk for about 40 mins, my friend came over and said my song was up so i told the girl i had to go in to sing my song, but she was like "noo dont leave yet, talk to me for a bit more". so i stayed and talked to her for like another 30 mins. i had to get another sim card cos my phone bill kept going up last month, im starting to like her, shes nice and a caring person and everyone in the piano club thinks we're going out. i had some big family issues last week, she kept calling me asking how i was and stuff. schools gonna start next week so i will definitely see next week at school, oh yeh, we already made arrangements that she'll go out with me for a day in taipei, since our college is outside taipei.

its funny when i think about it, back in australia none of these thing will ever happen to me, i guess things change through time.

694 Name: Anonymous : 2010-02-26 22:56 ID:vEOqem1m

>>693

It's good to know you haven't been eaten by a bear!

Also, go after that girl you performed for.

695 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-02-27 18:01 ID:fF4GKvB7

And look at this! Three girls pining after Eiga, instead of he chasing them! Good show, Eiga, good show; you've got the power of choice, so choose the right one, now. On that note, the piano girl sounds like sounds like a good chance for you to get into a fair, affectionate, non-parasitical relationship. Make sure to be a gentleman on that date; no getting drunk and wailing on some guy now! Anyways, good luck to ye, and keep on keepin' on.

696 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-02-28 08:26 ID:Yzg/eBxC

I've been following this thread since our little eiga first posted, i must admit eiga has improved from these 4 years, eiga was very stubborn at the beginning like most guys would, but he has shown some patience and alot of confidence after being rejected countless times, for me if i was eiga i would be dead from that many rejections, especially that Eiga went through some major ones like lyss for example. Eiga was blind to see most of the girls he chase were either bitches or just using him, his finally opened his eyes. well Eiga finally took our advice and look at the results!! his getting girls and more then just one!!

one thing im impressed is how he can keep this thread going for so long, this might be 4ch's longest thread in history! also notice how Eiga always looses hope and is at the edge of giving up, but he just manages to bring his confidence and stand up again, im very impressed at that. anyway best of luck Eiga! keep up updated! wish you all the best bro!

697 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-03-01 05:02 ID:6+V15u43

Eiga, romance aside, what are you doing in life? I don't think I ever read the update. One minute you were in Australia, then Japan and China...very interested in what happened.

698 Name: 映画男 : 2010-03-01 19:24 ID:6osUr43C

>>697 i lived in Australia for 18 years, was going to move to japan but instead i went to taiwan, been in taiwan for about 8 months. I did a film school for about a year and a half called SAE institute, now im studying multi media at kainan univeristy, now im just recording my own music and upload them to my website during my free time.

699 Name: stav : 2010-03-01 19:49 ID:Heaven

hey Eiga Otoko

i've known you for some time, 3-4 years maybe? i'm pretty sure you know who i am by the name. its been a while since i talk to you last time, i know our convo last time didnt end too well as you know why. it took me sometime to read this thread, you showed me this 2 years ago do you remember? when you first told me about your story with aya you showed me this thread. anyway, after reading this i know your feelings were very strong back then, i know i didnt take you seriously, i know i didnt take it very well, i know you still feel the pain even though your miles away or even if its been so long. Its good to hear your doing well, at least your not emo :) i know i havnt been very nice to you after our incident, so i just want to apologize in front of everyone, im sorry for hurting you, Im sorry for the things i've said, we all do stupid things that we regret in the end, you've always been a great friend to me, i never got to say goodbye to you when you left, so here i just want to wish you all the best, and your always welcome to shoot me an email whenever you feel like you need someone to boost you up :) also i just want to thank you for all the things you done for me, hope your doing well.

stav

700 Name: Frogun!!oBBGEi/+ : 2010-03-02 13:03 ID:9YHnkhzt

I laughed when "Eiga" got exposed for making a fake post to cheer him on, ripped from Densha Otoko and then call himself Eiga Otoko.

Call me what you will, but this thread is like the fanfiction of benson (I refuse to call him Eiga). Basically a modified version of Densha at first, then exploding and going more ridiculous as it went on. No people could have this kind of resolution left after getting smacked around with love so much that they would say "oh well... better luck next time".

While it was entertaining to read, it's sad how many people took him seriously.

701 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-03-03 05:45 ID:Heaven

are you saying that the so called "Eiga'' or "Benson" had too much time on his hands that he decides to make up all this so called "fanfiction" of him self for the last 3-4 years? And that everyone who participated in this thread are just sad loosers cos we all took him seriously?

to defend our so called Eiga or Benson. firstly i dont think anyone has that much time to make up "the love life of Eiga Otoko", i admit he would get the idea of "eiga otoko" after watching densha otoko, anyone would, but i believe the story he says. its not like its impossible for it to happen, in every mans life we always bump into the what seems the impossible, but hey we all manage to get pass the impossible, so i dont see why eiga couldn't get up after being smacked around so many times. and to be honest i believe most people would come to this site cos of densha otoko, we're all dreamers here so i dont think you should say how sad it is we took him seriously.

plus, if he really was copying densha otoko, he would have got a girl by now lol

702 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-03-06 12:50 ID:wb0MsXv4

>>700 hey dont bs about eiga

and i agree with >>701 if eiga was making up all this crap he wouldve gotten a girl by now.

703 Name: 映画男 : 2010-04-16 07:06 ID:k08jjSr2

i believe my story is about to come to an end :)

704 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-04-16 19:50 ID:fF4GKvB7

OH HO HO!

Please, details, Eiga.

Don't hold back on us, not now.

705 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-04-17 16:42 ID:NaT1twkU

whats this?! am i expecting something great thats gonna happen?

details now Eiga!!

706 Name: 映画男 : 2010-04-22 18:16 ID:gCpGIN7z

hey everyone

i've come here to conclude my story here :) its been a hectic month for me in feb, since valentines day brought me a lot of memories. on valentines day, i finally moved on from a lot of memories from the valentines girl last year, was a hard thing to do but i managed. i started asking the performance girl out, we out one on one and seemed to get along really well, we walked around this place in taiwan called "dong qu (east side)" which is a popular area cos it has a lot of shops owned by taiwanese celebs. our 2nd out going was good, we went to a pasta shop for lunch, talked for the whole afternoon then went karaoke with just her and me for about 3 hours. i had to rush home that day cos i was about to fly back to australia to sort some visa. (continue)

707 Name: 映画男 : 2010-04-22 18:59 ID:gCpGIN7z

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while i was in australia, we started to webcam and talk online for 5 hours every night, we flirted a lot. while i was in australia i thought i'll fly back to melbourne where i use to live to visit some friends and also sort out some personal stuff there. there was one time on the phone with her, she was saying how popular i was and that she gets jealous cos too many people always come find me to help them with music, and i was telling her how she doesnt need to be jealous since nothing really happens. while i was at melbourne i went to visit the valentines girl, i was pretty tensed about it but after apologizing for screwing up my friendship with her, i felt a lot better and we even managed to stay friends again. there was one night when i went clubbing with friends, i got bored so i called the girl, apparently she was really down cos of a argument with her parents and she wanted to call me, but i called her first, managed to cheer her up and she was like "im so glad i've got you". everyday she message me when she arrives to school and says she misses me, so it comes the day when im about to fly back to taiwan, we already organized to meet up the next day i arrive to watch a movie. (continue)

708 Name: 映画男 : 2010-04-22 19:27 ID:gCpGIN7z

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so it comes to the day i arrive back to taiwan, i met up with her the next day at the train station, brought a ferrero rocher flower with a koala doll i brought from australia as a souvenir and she really liked it. we went to watch "alice in wonderland". the movie was interesting, lots of special effects, anyway after the movie we walked around the city area, went to a park and sat there, took some pictures and stuffed around a bit. later she took me to a taiwanese history museum, and suddenly out of the blue, i just grabbed her hand and we started holding hands while walking around the museum. after the museum, we took a train to a famous place in taiwan called "dan shui" its popular for the night markets and the river. we walked and looked at the sunset, while eating some night market food, later we just kept walking to another famous area in dan shui called fishermans dwarf, its where most couples would go. we walked for about 30-40 mins while chatting and holding hands, to be honest i felt like i was dreaming, didnt think things would go so smoothy. we managed to get to fishermans dwarf, sat there and looked at the moon, i held her tightly in my arms, suddenly our face are really close, i move closer and kiss her. i never felt so nervous in my life, never touched something so soft with my lips before. she looked into my eyes as i look back at her, then we started to kiss even more passionately. i sat there with her in my arms and looked at the night sky, i've never been this happy before, i really felt like i was dreaming but i know it wasnt a dream. i took her home later that night and gave her another kiss and said "i love you", she looked at me and said " i love you too". (contintue)

709 Name: 映画男 : 2010-04-22 19:47 ID:gCpGIN7z

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thinking back, its been almost 4 years since i started this thread, and here i am 4 years later finally able to finish the story, right now, she stays at my place once or twice every week, i honestly swear shes the best thing thats happened in my life, shes always very caring about me, doesnt force me to do anything and respect me on whatever choice i make. seriously thinking about it, so much things have happened in the last 4 years of my life and in this thread. recently my parents are getting divorced so its been pretty hectic for me, but shes always there to cheer me up and tells me that she believes that i can fix my parents up. we've been going out for about a month and i've always cherished every single moment im with her. i really have learned a lot during my time in this thread, either its about romance or life, i really learned a lot, so just want to thank everyone on 4ch for everything thats happened in this thread. hope everyone can find their own happiness, dreams and lead them to heaven! :)

p.s. anyone here use facebook?

Eiga Out :D

710 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-04-22 22:49 ID:fF4GKvB7

Congrats, bro! Glad you were able to find your happiness after all that had happened; I hope you two have many good times and further your love, and all that jazz.

711 Name: sniper2233 : 2010-04-25 17:21 ID:6xxTHY61

hey, eiga, just before you leave this piece of heritage for future 2ch lurkers to view and run off to enjoy your dream, I want you to see this first.
I've recently found out about 2ch, and I just came by your post to check up why it's getting over 700 posts, and wow am i surprised at how many years have gone by since post 1, and all the history in it, Aya, Lyss, Pokemons, and most importantly the AUG Streyr, and you can guess what I'm about to say is going to come to you as shocking:
You guessed it, I also live in Taiwan, Kaohsiung to be exact, and i also sorta have an otaku vibe, and am learning japanese for 4 years right now, and have a major interest in movie making (wow that gives us like three things in common, i think we also have the same age, 19 right?)

I also do have facebook, tell me your email so i can send it to you, :D

712 Name: sniper2233 : 2010-04-25 17:22 ID:6xxTHY61

sage wow i got a 711, lucky me, taiwanese girls dig open-chan ^^

713 Name: 映画男 : 2010-04-25 20:52 ID:OccBdsXO

>>711 wow! thats insane haha, yeah im around the same age, im 20 at the moment, argh 4ch wont let me post my email, just look me up "benson tsai camberwell grammar" ;)

714 Name: not my problem : 2010-05-11 10:39 ID:ypiesq/u

>>700 2nded

715 Name: not my problem : 2010-05-11 10:44 ID:pErRVpjq

but if it real anyway then congratz.
now im stuck with one of theseven sins: jeolousy -.-
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

716 Name: Secret Admirer : 2010-06-09 09:45 ID:sBl5VcJE

congrats eiga! 4 years i've followed this thread thinking that the amount of shit that comes to you will never end, and then bam! the tables has turned for you. all the best bro and enjoy your new life =)

717 Name: ManUtd8 : 2011-04-19 08:04 ID:lwItEjW4

I've just recently finished reading this entire thread (took a week cause of work and personal responsibilities)...and really...this is as twisted as twisted can get for an Asian guy who couldn't get THE GIRL! Seriously, I was rooting for Aya during the first few posts...hoping "GOD, just end with him getting her (would feel like he accomplished my dream)." However, I started to fade away for a bit because I felt he was getting a lil out of line with all the bs he was pulling with other girls. For example: attemping to play a piano piece over the phone...that's just creepy in my book. I mean...c'mon...u would think after 1-2 days (or even a week) that if the girl did not want to talk to you...then f*** off and move somewhere else. But no...he kept pushing...and I wanted to rip his head off.

However, Eiga later on describes his own personal demons and how coming in late in the dating game is just like if a guy was trying to date since he was 5: it's just not simple. In Eiga's case, it was about not only finding someone who would like him for who he was...but also liking himself. I do remember some posters mentioning "stop antagonizing yourself" or "don't keep your head down..." but he would ultimately admit it was his fault for not taking the posters comments into consideration (not that it would matter in some ways cause we can't see him). He did change himself eventually: lost weight, go out clubbing, socializing in events like Karaoke, and being popular at school. When he moved to outside Taipei for college, he didn't push himself...and let life run its course. For a lot of people actually, that's the best way of doing so. I myself believe that while we still have choices in life, God ultimately knows our fate and we can't change that (knowingly). Eventually...I was happy to read his three-part finale that landed him with the girl that loves him...for who he is.

In the end, it's not Densha Otoko (Densha's goal lasted less than a year and had no teenage drama)...but it proved that no matter how old you are...if you are patient and willing to jump obstacles over and over again, eventually you will get there and find happiness.

For Eiga Otoko...if you are reading this now after just a year since you left...I hope you inspired many who read this thread and that the girl you (hopefully still) are dating is/might become your eternal soulmate.

718 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-22 20:05 ID:qG5BO0wg

its been a while

just to let you guys know, i found aya on facebook and we chattered a few times, funny huh? disappeared for almost 4 years and somehow i just found her on facebook. apparently shes moved to australia melbourne where i use to live, while im here in taiwan.

all i can say is, ever since i left the thread, so many things have happened, i watched a movie tonight called "you are the apple of my eye", its a recently new released taiwanese film about 5 guys chasing one girl in their high school life. i dont know why it made me think about 4ch, so i came back and looked at the 4 years post i had in here.

what i leanred from this past year, is sometimes in life we cherish all the loved ones around us, sometimes when we loose them the pain is so big we just want to hold onto them and never let them go, but if we keep holding on to them they more they want to leave. its even harder to accept the facts they want to leave but once you accept it, you feel a lot better. i reckon its just life in general and sometimes even if we dont want to accept it, we just gotta accept those facts.

anyway im not even sure if i should write about my whole year story again, its like this thread never ends D=

719 Name: Secret Admirer : 2011-08-23 03:16 ID:pdbYlX5P

Well, it's up to you bro, your stories never fail to entertain me in the least ;p. Been following your thread for right about 2 years now, really amazing to see everything develop the way it has.

720 Name: HaloUTD08 : 2011-08-23 15:39 ID:cIbLzR+R

Hi Eiga Otoko

I actually found you too on Facebook...but found it weird to add someone you didn't know.

Anyways, how are you doing now with your love life? You with the same girl...or thinking about Aya again?

721 Name: Secret Admirer : 2011-08-27 18:42 ID:Heaven

Please tell us whats going on Eiga!! DETAILS NOW!

722 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-28 20:42 ID:SGLAUVn4

hmm i dont know where to begin, all i can say was the times with my girlfriend was the happiest days i ever had in my life. ill start from last year july when my parents just got officially divorced for not too long, i was pretty upset about it as there was a few dramas with our family, if i have to say it my dad had an affair for 2 years and my mum couldnt stand it anymore. i was back at Australia for a month and a half to help move the house, i even went back to melbourne to go find the valentines girl cos we actually got in contact and she wanted to meet up with me, even met up with lyss. i would webcam with my girlfriend every night and we got even more depe, my feelings for her were more deep since we were apart for a while.

it wasnt in till one day my girlfriend started to talk strange towards me, she didnt say much and would reply "hm yes", when i say "i love you" she would just say "okay" which got me pretty upset. i thought something was up with her so i called her and asked if she still liked me, she said she didnt know which got me even more upset, we end up both crying that night cos she admit to me that she felt this pressure cos of my family situation and that she couldnt help me out and felt helpless towards me. I told her that shes done the best she can and shes already helped me a lot by standing by my side when ever i needed her, i told her even though my mum is gone, at least i still had her with me. (continue)

723 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-28 20:52 ID:SGLAUVn4

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even after that night, she still talked cold towards me, i saw on her facebook status that she and her good friend (a guy) been commenting a lot and looked like they were flirting, i left a comment but they both ignored me on it. i started to feel as if shes slowly drifting away from me and that something was going on between those two, i asked her if anything was going on with them but she told me they are just very good friends and they will never go out. i was worried about her so i quickly booked a flight back to taiwan, i flew back on my own as my dad and brother was still in Australia. so when i came back to taiwan, i wanted to meet up with my girlfriend, but she refused to meet up with me saying she doesnt feel well and that shes not ready to meet me, i was honestly upset about it since i flew all the way back just for her, she started to talk even more cold towards me, she only replied, "oh ok, hmm yes, ohh" to me when ever i talk to her.

i knew something was wrong with her and i felt even more upset, i had dinner with my god sister and her friend one night and told them my situation. my god sister basically knew what my girlfriend was thinking and she hinted to me that there was gonna be a break up soon, her friend knew i was upset and told my god sister not to say anything more cos she said i looked like i was about to cry. funny thing was when i got home that night, i burst out crying on my own at home, i felt like my mum left me was painful enough, having to see my girlfriend slowly leave me was even more painful, at the time i really loved my girlfriend and would have done anything to let her stay. i cried for a while to the extend i couldnt say a word, i called my friend up and told her what happened and she got me calmed down.
during those days i tried to go out with friends so i wouldnt think about it, but nothing was working at the time, we had our first argument because my girlfriend kept giving the blame to my parents and family saying stuff like my family is more rich then her family and it gives her pressure about the future. i told her thats something 2 - 3 years later and its not like we're getting married now. she still said the pressure was there and we had a pretty big argument that night.
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724 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-28 21:03 ID:SGLAUVn4

it wasnt till one night i was at home, looking through all the photos of me and my girlfriend, i started to feel a lot of pain, while listening to a very emotional song, i started crying again and screaming in pain, so much pain i started to feel like i couldnt breathe, i tried to call my girlfriend but she didnt pick up and said on msn "did you call me?", since i felt like i couldnt breathe and began to panic, i couldnt type properly and she thought i was being dramatic towards her by typing a lot, she said to me "im going to sleep now, good night", and i felt even more pain like she doesnt care about me anymore. i tried calling my mum but her phone was off (by the way this was at 2am mid night), i tried to call my dad in australia but his phone was also off, at the time i already fell to the ground trying to gasp for air, i was thinking "maybe this is the end of me..." i tried my brothers cell and it worked, but when he picked up he couldnt tell it was me since i couldnt talk properly as i feel like i cant breathe.

then my brother recognized my voice and began to panic, woke up my dad and they called an ambulance to my house, i had to crawl to the front door to open and then lie on the ground waiting for the ambulance to come. they arrived and put me on a thing looked like a wheel chair, checked my heart beat and apparently it was about 115 that night and blood pressure was 165. at the time i felt like i was dying or something, like my vision was all blury and all i could hear was people screaming "lets get him out", they put some sort of mask thing on me to breathe where the guy next to me was holding a oxygen tank. while i was in the ambulance, i cant remember what happened on the way because when i woke up, i was already in the hospital. my dads friend came to see if i was okay, i remember it was around 4am when i woke up. my family friend came and told me that my heart apparently stopped for a bit when i was in the ambulance, they gave me some sort of a shock to bring my heart back running again.
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725 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-28 21:24 ID:SGLAUVn4

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while lying in the hospital, im thinking to my self "what the hell happened tonight... did i almost die?", i remember i went home the next day where my mum came after she heard what happened. she was so worried she lectured me saying "what are you doing!? do you know how worried me and your dad was? all this cos of one girl?", i messaged my girlfriend saying i was in the hospital but she never replied me back.

my mum stayed with my for the last 4 days to make sure i dont have another incident. there would be nights where i would run into her room saying i cant breathe but my mum just tried to relax me and i slowly get my breath back. my mum was wondering what was wrong with me and organized me to get a full body check in the hospital. my mum had a talk with me saying it would be better if i broke it off with my girlfriend, she knew if she broke it off with me i would break down. i called up my girlfriend and asked if she wanted to break up, she said "sure lets break up" she told me she was sorry to let me go through the pain and to make things so bad that i end up in the hospital. we broke up on july 22nd from what i remember. we met up after a week i got better, i was very nervous cos i still had a lot of feelings towards her. during this time i met a youtube artist named Terry He, he came to taiwan and we met up, i introduced him to my producer and we're currently helping him getting signed to AVEX TRAX in taiwan.

even though we just met, i had a talk with terry about my ex, he said its pretty bad what happened, even though things look so bad, but in the end it brings a better future for us. when i look back at it now i find it very true. Terry also gave me some motivation to work on my music and not think about my ex, i was also working at a PDA shop for a month to distract my self from all the pain. occasionally at night i would feel someone is pressing their thumb against my throat and felt like im being chocked. it wasnt in till chinese valentines day, i was doing a performance that day at work since it was my last day before i start college. i wanted to ask my ex to come see me and get a chance to see her on valentines day. but she told me she had plans that day, i called her after work and found out she had dinner with some guy, i got pretty up set and we had another argument that night. my mum couldnt stand that i kept on holding onto my ex and that i kept wasting phone calls on her. she told me that im currently just going around in my own circle of pain, if i was to take a step out of the circle, i can move on with my life and not go around and around.
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726 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-28 21:40 ID:SGLAUVn4

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my mum gave me some motivation to try make my self leave my own little circle. college started, it was something new to me since i had to move universities due to my visa problem i had that year, which meant i had to start as a freshmen again. but it wasnt bad cos the school i was attending and still attending right now has a lot of girls there because it use to be a girl school 10 years ago. one of my best friends saw me how i was going through a rough time, introduced me to one of his friend (a girl) who said she really wants a boyfriend, we got along pretty well. in September i took a 5 day trip to shanghai with my friends to see the expo, it was all good but one night i didnt know why i just really missed my ex. when i got back from shanghai, i went back to my old college and wanted to meet up with my ex to give her the present i brought for her in shanghai. at the start she refused to meet up with me saying i didnt need to buy her and if she could not accept the gift from me. i only got her a pair of chopsticks that looked cute with these patterns on it. at the end she came out and took it and we talked a bit.

i started my new life in my new college, it was all good, people were very nice and met a lot of new friends. im studying international college so all my class was in english, a lot better for me haha. most of the girls in my class was interested in me cos the taiwnese girls were interested in how i was doing music and how i was ABC from Australia, not to mention they all thought i was korean at the start. my new life was starting out very good, the girl my friend introduced me we got pretty close as well, talked on the phone almost everyday and i got her a nice birthday gift that she really liked, everything was going smoothly, i also started doing covers on youtube to persuade my music dreams.
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(guys its 5:44AM in taiwan right now, i really wanna finish what happened but im only half way, ill finish it up tomorrow when i get up)

727 Name: Secret Admirer : 2011-08-29 07:18 ID:pdbYlX5P

Dude Eiga, give us a link to your youtube channel bro, I never knew you were into music! Good choice of hobby, chicks dig musicians.

728 Name: Secret Admirer : 2011-08-29 07:53 ID:lQvzUlhr

Yay, Eiga is back!!!
Good to hear from you again!

729 Name: 映画男 : 2011-08-29 18:01 ID:YuastxkB

my youtube channel is here, you guys can check it out :D

http://www.youtube.com/user/benson2009?feature=mhee

730 Name: Secret Admirer : 2011-09-01 07:05 ID:lQvzUlhr

We need an update again!!!!

731 Name: HaloUTD08 : 2011-09-07 22:45 ID:MdNXWwfV

I wonder if he'll come back and post the rest of his current story :(

732 Name: 映画男 : 2011-10-17 06:26 ID:dScoQ3Rp

sorry for such a long delay, ive been so busy the last month that i barely slept. anyway to continue my story.....

thing were going well for my new life in the new college, it wasn't in till one day i was on the phone with my ex, i asked her if shes going out with anyone right now and she said she was. i asked her who it was and she said it was the guy i saw her flirting on Facebook when i was in Australia who apparently she told me back then was only a good friend and that they would never date. at first i was surprised, but when i thought about it more, the more angry i got. i started arguing with her on the phone, she felt guilty cos i said basically she cheated on me for the guy. i didnt sleep that night, had another panic attack and kept screaming, i dont know why but the pain was so big i just wanted to scream out loud. my best friend came to my house to see me after he heard me screaming on the phone, to be honest when i look back at it now, i really looked like some fucked up psycho. i didn't sleep for about 2-3 days, i showed up at school all depressed looking and people noticed i was different. there was this girl in my class (lets call her V) who heard about me and my ex, i was talking on the phone to her about it, after i told her she suddenly said shes gonna pray for me. she just started praying for me on the phone and i was touched. V said if there was anything in my mind i can always go talk to her, she even gave me a birthday card with two full page writing saying how im a really nice guy and thank you for always telling her things about college so she can stop thinking about some bad stuff and that shes always here for me. when i read the last part it suddenly reminded me of lyss.... i dont know why. i started having little interest in V since she did some pretty nice things for me when i was going through a rough time. V suddenly began to change a during the semester, she started being more quiet and not really talktive, everyone knew something was up. there was one class where she suddenly left the classroom, when i asked i found out she want to the train station and went back home, i started to get worried.
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733 Name: 映画男 : 2011-10-17 06:56 ID:dScoQ3Rp

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everyone thought it was strange that V suddenly went home in the middle of the class, people were saying things like maybe shes got too much pressure from school work which is a possible situation. i wanted to do something to cheer her up so i came up with an idea to make a video for her, told everyone to record maybe 1-2 minutes of them selves talking giving some encouragement to V. during this time another girl (lets call her N) was pretty good friends with me, everyone was always curious if we were going out but i said we werent. there was one time when we were all having lunch outside, N said she wanted to see the new harry potter movie and asked if i wanna watch with her, i thought there was gonna be other people but apparently it was just me and her. we left lunch pretty awkward cos everyone was saying "oh where you guys going!" and it made us look like we were secretly going on a date or something. me and N became pretty close friends for a while.

on our school Christmas event, V was a lot better after i gave her a christmas gift and a card that i took a whole night to write (i suck at writing chinese), i even uploaded a song i wanted to give her on youtube on christmas day when i was at home. things were back to normal again, New Years Eve was coming. a lot of my classmates came to my place for New Years Eve since i live on the 13th floor apartment and can see the 101 fireworks for new years. there was two girls that i got familiar with that night (lets call her J and C), J and C are good friends in another class, i invited them for new years thinking its good to meet some new people. J seemed to follow me around that night and N would look jealous cos i took a photo of N looking at us with a kinda no emotional face. i was taking pictures with a very good friend of mine thats me and her are like sister and brothers, J saw us taking photos and suddenly came in the middle between us, my friend left and it was only me and J in my room taking pictures on my bed (yes it sounds kinda wrong but nothing happened).
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734 Name: 映画男 : 2011-10-17 07:14 ID:dScoQ3Rp

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ever since new years eve, J would always talk to me on msn and even msged me once saying "how come you werent on msn to annoy me last night? did you block me? :(" at the time V was a lot normal so i wasnt so worried anymore, i started talking to C as well and she wanted me to help her with english. it was winter break, i was planning on filming my first Music Video that i was gonna upload to youtube. during the winter break, me and C became good friends as well, c wanted to get me and J together cos she kept saying we look good together, J was a cute girl so i said i didnt mind. J would come from hometown which was about an hour by train to taipei city to come visit me, she kept saying she wants to practice english with me but we never end up doing any english. most of my winter break i was filming my MV, there was one night i was talking to J on the phone, saying ill take her to a all you can eat cake shop cos they got nice cakes there. she called me later at 3am saying she didnt want to eat cake cos it'll make her fat and i said to her "so you called me at 3am saying you dont wanna eat cake?" and she started laughing with her friend who was staying at her place. thing with J was going pretty good. During one visit when she and C came to my place, she said her hands were cold and i said i got warm hands, and suddenly i was holding her hand for about 2 minutes, C looked in shock and so did my other friend. we just stood there holding and didnt say anything, when we went to dinner J would always look at me smiley which made me pretty nervous. i managed to finish my MV and had it released on feb 17th when my 2nd semester started.
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735 Name: HaloUTD08 : 2011-10-24 22:15 ID:8r14Rvpg

Oh no...what happens next?!!

736 Name: kao : 2012-03-02 11:56 ID:dKvUdRG0

737 Name: Secret Admirer : 2012-06-11 17:38 ID:sErv7edE

wonder where he went?

738 Name: 映画男 : 2012-07-15 19:27 ID:1mXBN1xN

im sorry i disappeared for so long

its been such a busy and hectic life, its like a never ending drama

i've been looking back at a lot of stuff recently, 4ch, lyss, manda, my ex

its 3:19AM in taiwan, weather is crazily hot, i'll try and finish up my story that i left behind... theres so much to fill up D:

again sorry for disappearing!! im currently on summer break, been doing some street performances and other performances around taipei, i'm currently working on a EP that im trying to release end of this year so been really busy since i last left off, plus im still in college.

anyway i'll find some time to post up where i left off. PEACE~

739 Name: HaloUTD08 : 2012-07-17 17:21 ID:sErv7edE

HE'S BACK!! (I hope...)

740 Name: Secret Admirer : 2012-09-12 06:05 ID:CmSbn7xk

Horoscope have known.
The partner whom you need is seen in horoscope.

http://itunes.apple.com/en/app/id415834083?mt=8

horoscope JIKU site
http://www.horoscope-jiku.com/

741 Name: 映画男 : 2013-04-16 11:20 ID:EnYU3GUA

honestly i feel bad that when i said im gonna find time finishing up the story, i never got the chance :((

i left too much gaps in between that i wasnt able to finish the story

i was having a chat today with someone from this thread which is why i checked back, im pretty sure most of you have forgotten about this place XD

im gonna do a quick catchup on where i left!
*2011
-after i release my MV on youtube, people at school made rumours that i liked both C and J, it got awkward and we stopped talking
-V went into some depression mode and eventually left school, i was pretty sad about it but we still kept contact

  • V wanted to go to Australia during my summer break to do working holiday, my dad agreed for her to come stay at my place in Gold Coast.
  • V, her best friend and her sister came to Gold coast, at the time we were pretty close cos we were talking on the phone alot.
  • things were going well with V, i took her to alot of places and she seemed pretty happy.
  • A family friends daughter "kejo" found my facebook through the Music video and started chatting to me. when i was 13 her mum made a joke saying im engaged to her daughter since both parents agreed. obviously they were not serious.
  • one night, V said she never got drunk before and wanted to get drunk, my dad gave her a drink and she got drunk.

-she went kinda psycho after getting drunk, started crying and screaming
-cos i was a little tipsy, i had a fight with my dad
-V kinda knows i like her, cos i looked after her the whole night when she was drunk and she even held my hand that night.
-V rejected me before she went back to taiwan, saying i wasnt her type.
-Eventually i found out V just wanted to use me to get popular cos she knows im doing music and i know producers.
-me and kejo been whatsapp-ing each other a lot and been on good terms

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742 Name: 映画男 : 2013-04-16 11:34 ID:EnYU3GUA

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-before i left australia, my ex had been calling me through international calls because she had a fight with her bf. she called me twice crying and said she wanted to meet up with me when i come back.

  • I stopped talking to V cos she tried to go for all my guy friends and even went after one of our classmates bf. i was pretty disappointed and didnt really want to talk to her, even till now we never talked.

-me and kejo was app-ing each other every day, it went pretty nice. she even got me a gift from beijing when she went to visit.
-she suddenly wanted to talk to me so one night we skyped for about 2 and a half hours.
-Kejo and her sister came to visit taipei cos her sister bf lives in taipei, we met up for a movie and had dinner, it went pretty well cept she found me a little quiet at the start
-after the dinner, kejo asked me to the zoo on the next day, it was like a triple date as the other 4 people were couples.

  • Kejo got me a necklace thing and said it was for goodluck.
  • I met up with my ex for lunch one day, she said she realize i was pretty nice to her which i could tell she was hinting she wanted to get back together. but for me i didnt want to get back cos i know shes just gonna do the same thing over again.
  • Kejo was worried when i met up with my gf , said shes afraid i might get emotional if i see my ex, i told her not to worry

-the next 3 months, me and kejo talk to each other everyday, i even went to visit her in kaoshiong for 3 days and stayed at her place.
-she was very nervous when i was coming down and always asked "what if you see me and have a different opinion on me." i told her not to worry
-Kejo revealed to me that she broke up with her last bf two months before we started talking, shes still not over her ex as they went out for 2 years.

  • I tried many ways for get to get over her bf, on her 20th birthday i made a video and song and uploaded to youtube, she was very touched.
  • the video was called "169" the no. represents how many days i've known kejo since she first started talking to me on fb

-she and her sister came to visit taipei in december, they both stayed at my place

  • kejo wanted to go clubbing and said without a table she wont go, so i pulled some strings and got a table in a club.

-that night in the club i spent around 21k NTS, kejo seemed to have a good night and i threw up 6 times.
-i took a photo that night of me and her and uploaded on facebook tagging her
-the next day, i saw the tag disappeared on her facebook and asked her sister about it.
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743 Name: 映画男 : 2013-04-16 11:54 ID:EnYU3GUA

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-apparently Kejo took the tag off cos she didnt want her friends to think after just breaking up not long ago, shes with another guy.
-Kejo told her sister before that she thinks im suitable to be the LAST bf, and said we are too far apart as im in taipei and shes in kaoshiong.
-i told my friends about the "LAST BF" thing, most of them said shes just using me as backup

  • two days after the club night, her sister told me that kejo thinks im a really nice guy but just wont work out, since shes still attached to her ex bf.
  • i was devastated as i take time to really put feelings in someone cos i avoid getting hurt. i found out she really was just using me as a backup cos i was nice to her.
  • I started clubbing a lot for the last 3 months, met a lot of random girls at club.
  • i wanted to find something to distract me from kejo so i was a little addicted to clubbing back then.

-i lost motivation to write music, started helping a friend of mine doing hip hop music instead.
- i met a few girls who only wanted to get close to me cos of my good family background. i started to learn how to see what peoples motivation is.

  • i met a girl called ''mia", she was nice and friendly, i started talking to her a lot.

-mia wanted to find a place near me cos she said its near her school for her masters as she was about to graduate.
-i went on a date with her once, we went to see a movie
-before we saw our movie, i checked in on facebook. after the movie i was gonna send her home but a guy suddenly appeared as we were about to enter the Metro station.

  • the guy turned out to be her ex bf who still wants to get back with her, he came up to us and kept saying "why didnt you pick up your phone" and told me "excuse me, sorry"

-mia told me his gonna leave with him cos she was afraid her ex bf was going to punch me, he seemed pretty tensed up especially with his voice.

  • i was kinda shocked and thought if i should start a fight with him, i thought since we were in a public place and there was security guards all over the place, thought it was smart not to do something rational.

-Mia kept apologising for not telling me and said her ex bf had been stalking her.
-Me and Mia started talking on the phone and sometimes she would even call me, she even cared about my health cos i have high blood pressure.
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744 Name: 映画男 : 2013-04-16 12:06 ID:EnYU3GUA

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  • I found out there is a guy thats been chasing Mia for the last year and a half, i saw pictures of them going out one on one on fb

-there was one night she suddenly went out around 1am, said the guy who had been chasing her for a year and half had been telling people her private life, im thinking "are you hiding something?"

  • one night i saw them checking in at a night market around 3am, i whats app her and it shown that she read my msgs but no reply.
  • next day she said she left her phone at the guys place, im thinking why the fuck would you be at a guys place around 3-4am.

-i called her the next day and a guy picked up, mia called me back saying she was in the bathroom and shes out with friends, but i know the guy who picked up is the same guy who is chasing her for a year and a half.

  • that night i saw a picture of mia at the guys place cooking dinner, im thinking you must be dating him or something, i pretend to act like i dont know and called her and said "ohh did you get a bf? i saw pictures of you and a guy" , she refused to answer me
  • Mia already found a house near my place, one metro station apart, but i found out that she actually started dating the guy who was chasing her and he lived one metro station away from me as well.
  • i found out that Mia was just using me to help her find a house, i was sad but wasnt too sad, that night i went to find my music buddies and we just made music till 6am. i felt better the next day.

-During the Mia situation, sometimes i couldnt sleep and felt pretty depressed around 4am, i kinda missed the times i talked with kejo as kejo was sort off avoiding me back then.
-Kejo said i ruined our friendship when i started clubbing alot and said i changed into a player. said she liked the older me.
-eventually i found out kejos REAL personality, shes actually a party freak, loves to club and have guys dance around her. apparently she was pissed off at the 21k night because i avoided some guys dance around her and people thought she was my gf so she got pissed. said i kicked off some hot guys that was gonna come dance with her.

  • I was really disappointed about how kejo REALLY was, thought i should take time and not go for anyone, while at the time i was trying to find my self back with the music motivation. i gradually stopped clubbing.

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745 Name: 映画男 : 2013-04-16 12:24 ID:EnYU3GUA

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-during my break, the last 3-4 months i finally completed my next song called "everytime" which im going to release as a single.
-one night i was bored and started talking to this girl called "miya", she was very friendly and nice.
-sometimes i would start conversations with Miya on facebook, shes also from the same school as me.

  • I lent Miya my laptop to choose some classes, that was when we really first met and talked.
  • Miya was very friendly and nice to me, she often ask if theres anything she can help me with whenever i was having troubles.
  • me and Miya started using LINE, she even added her friends in and had a three way convo.

-i would ask miya out to karaoke or movies but we always had friends with us.

  • one day i got two big bang tickets and didnt know who to ask, i asked if Miya would like to go see the concert with me and she agreed.
  • Big bang concert was the first time we went out one on one, or our first date.
  • After the big bang concert, Miya seemed to have a good impression on me

-one night i saw Miya's status was really emo and she shut her phone off. I used "wechat" (its an app you send voice msgs) and randomly sang songs to cheer her up.

  • Miya was touched from the msgs and said she was really happy when she heard it. Miya began to rely on me and i would help her out
  • We started talking on the phone one night for almost 3 hours, we even agreed to go out the next day for lunch with one of my best friends.

the next day after lunch, my best friend left and it was just me and her, this was our 2nd date. we walked around taipei 101.
-that night, Miya's friend msgsed me asking if i like her, at the time i had some feelings towards her but didnt want to rush things incase i get hurt or disappointed again.
-her friend told me that Miya has feelings towards me, i was happy when i heard it.

on our 3rd date, i asked her to the zoo, after the zoo i took her to a riverside park, i wrote a song to her. she was really touched when she heard the song and im pretty sure she was crying cos she refused to look at me in the face XD since i haven't dated for the last 3 years (this happened near the end of 2012) i was really nervous when i was confessing, eventually i confessed and asked her to be my girlfriend, she quickly replied "OK!" and we were officially in a relationship :) shes my official 2nd girlfriend ever since the first one cheated on me, and im her first bf so shes still learning a lot from me :D we've been going out for 5 months, there has been ups and downs but i have to say im really happy with her and im glad i finally found someone who truly likes who i am.

i guess i can finally end this thread :P the last 3 years had truly been a roller coaster ride from me but i learned so much from those experience. i dont hate the girls who use me or cheated my feelings, i thank them fro the experience because those events made me stronger and too who i am right now.

whoever is still reading this, i hope you guys all the best, i've always missed 4ch, the reason i never came back was i had to get over a certain person i use to post on this thread, it took me a long time to get over her but im finally over it which is why i came back finishing up my story. i'll still keep an update to who ever likes to know what happens :) Take care too all of you! :D

-Eiga Otoko

746 Name: 映画男 : 2013-04-16 12:26 ID:EnYU3GUA

747 Name: HaloUTD08 : 2013-04-25 18:06 ID:PHtNKamZ

I'm just goin' 2 say I'm happy 4 u. U went through so much the last 7 years since posting on 4ch. It saddens me that you are now done with this thread...but you've been an inspiration for many. I hope the best for you and Miya!!

748 Name: Secret Admirer : 2013-04-26 14:33 ID:p6uiN1rv

test

749 Name: Secret Admirer : 2013-04-26 14:37 ID:p6uiN1rv

before confessing to her, u shoud put ur pants down and show her ur belonging on skype.

she will like urs and accept ur confess

750 Name: 映画男 : 2013-10-07 18:38 ID:MKGinrd/

hey guys!
just to let you guys know some news, I released my new single EP on iTunes called "Everytime" come check it out :)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/everytime-ep/id675912520

p.s. Me and Miya are almost dating for exactly a year!! time surely flies :D

751 Name: Secret Admirer : 2015-04-24 06:45 ID:Jc2IjrGi

wow i didnt know 4ch had a 7 years story going on intill now. I checked your music, your style reminds me of Jason chen on youube :P

any way Eiga hows your love life with Miya going on? (not sure if your gonna read this or not)

752 Name: Secret Admirer : 2015-04-29 13:59 ID:Heaven

>>751 This place is ancient history

753 Name: HaloUTD08 : 2015-07-22 21:40 ID:/nhd07mm

映画男/Benson,

Where have you been?! U doin' ok? Still with Miya?

754 Post deleted.

755 Post deleted.

756 Name: 映画男 : 2015-11-17 12:11 ID:T1ZAHOvv

>>753 we just broke up two weeks ago after being together for 3 years. still going through the healing proccess

757 Name: Secret Admirer : 2015-11-23 00:51 ID:F6IYATF0

>>756
Do you feel ok to talk more about it here, to contiue your life story?

758 Name: 映画男 : 2016-04-08 18:39 ID:xFgyl7WD

well a lot has happened since my break up with miya. my life completely went down hill after miya, i was very unmotivated, i felt like i couldnt feel anything anymore nothing could make me happy as i just felt like staying at home all the time. To be honest i was actually preparing to propose to her because i wanted to settle down with her, but the problem with being with miya was that she took control of my whole life. I use to wake up at 6:30AM to drive her to work almost everyday for a year and i'll pick her up from work whenever i have a day off. The reason why she broke up with me was she said she felt like i wasnt protective enough for her, but for me i felt like i gave her everything i could but it just wasnt enough. even though we broke up she said she misses me but said we cant be together unless i loose weight since i promised her i'll thin down by our 3rd year anniversary. we had a lot of ups and downs in this 3 years relationship and even now i still miss those days.

I quit my job in January and went back to Australia for about 2 months. I was actually planning on moving back too melboburne as truthfully there was nothing left for me in taiwan. Most of my really good friends left taiwan for work so i didnt have many friends in taiwan. i thought maybe i should go back to melbourne and start fresh. I went on a few dates with some girls but just didnt feel right and i wasnt very interested in starting another relationship so fast. 2 weeks ago i came back to taiwan to gather some of my things and was preparing to move back to melbourne. A friend of mine didnt really want me to leave and she kept saying she can find me a job in taiwan if im willing to stay. I met her 2 days ago and she brought one of her co-workers who was her mentor. at first she caught my interest a bit as she was very pretty and had a cute smile, we went karaoke that night but she didnt really sing as it was me and my friend who sang most of the time. my friends mentor is called Ruby, she kept saying i have a cute accent and she reckons its good that i'm chubby. i actually kept blushing a lot when she said i was being cute and said she only came that night just to meet me. to be honest i havnt felt like my stomach was inside out for a very very long time, last time i felt like that was probably 3-4 years ago. after karaoke we went to a small park and chatted a bit more, we took a cab and i sent both of them home first, when she got off she said to me "i hope i can see you again" which made me go completely red. that night when i went home i couldnt sleep and i just kept smiling like a creepy guy. Tonight i actually met up with them again after they finished work and we went for a late night dinner. i dont know why i just couldnt stop looking at her and tried very hard not to smile so much, im pretty sure my face was always red. after dinner i sent them home again but this time i walked her home when we got off the station, it was a really nice 15 minute walk and we just chatted and laughed a lot. i end up getting her contact tonight and i said i'll cook her dinner tomorrow and bring it over to her workplace, she looked pretty excited about it. :)

759 Name: 映画男 : 2016-04-08 18:46 ID:xFgyl7WD

i forgot to mention she and her friend has been persuading me to join their company to get me to stay in taiwan. right now im still thinking if i should stay here or go back to melbourne, but i reckon the chance of me staying in taiwan is higher now. I havnt met any girl for so long that made me so nervous like this.
tomorrow i plan to make her some salmon pasta because she likes pasta :) i felt like we really connected a lot during that walk, i honestly havnt been this happy since my break up. from what i know she doesnt like guys being too sensitive, everytime i just think of her i feel like theres butterflies in my stomach lol

i'll see how tomorrow goes.

760 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-04-10 11:25 ID:A6PgU/5k

>>759
How is your music making going?
And good luck with the dinner!

761 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-04-11 10:52 ID:gClkLcF3

Update us and tell us how it went! :O

762 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-04-12 01:07 ID:nfVpZh+K

>>759

EIGA OTOKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How did it go???? Tell us!

763 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-04-19 11:35 ID:tOnt4+TX

parusuteng@gmail.com

764 Name: 映画男 : 2016-05-04 17:22 ID:xFgyl7WD

sorry havnt updated you guys

<<760 i still make some music whenever i have free time~ but havnt upload anything on youtube for a long time now.

well the next day i prepared some salmon and shrimp pasta, took me about an hour to get it done. i got to her work place and i also prepared one for my friend, i waited for about 15-20 minutes for her cos she was still working. as soon as she ate it she said "wow I'm impressed! its like restaurant quality!" I'm pretty sure my face went red again as i could feel my face was pretty warm. we sat in front of her company while she was eating and chatted, i told her that she should feel special since i havnt cooked for anyone but my ex so far. i felt like i had a chance since shes always saying how nice i was and when I accompanied her home with the three of us, she told me to come sit with her at the back when my friend got off the cab. i dont know why but i just felt really motivated again, ever since my break up i havnt felt that motivated for a very long time. we chatted for a few days through LINE app and she told me she got a fever and didnt feel very well. I was in the hospital that morning for a check up so i thought i'll bring her some medicine, went to the pharmacy and brought her some medicine for her fever. I got to her work place and even got her some orange juice as i looked up on google and it said orange juice helps reduce the fever. she came down from her office and i pressed my hands on her head to see how hot she was, she was really happy that i brought her some medicine and said i was very sweet for doing that. good thing my orange juice and medicine worked as her fever went down in the afternoon and she felt a lot better. on the same day, my friend messaged me saying she had some very bad news, apparently she was talking to her and some how she mentioned "my boyfriend and I".

when i read it, i felt crushed, all those butterflies in my stomach just dropped dead. honestly i didnt know how to feel when i read it and my friend just kept saying sorry to me because she said she felt bad not asking it in the beginning and this whole time we thought she was single. what i felt strange was that she never mentioned she had a boyfriend when i did all those things. i dont know what got into me i just directly asked if she wanted to go catch a movie some time with me, at first she said depends if she feels better from the fever and asked my friend if she was free to join us, sadly she said my friend wasnt free and said maybe next time. from that moment i was pretty sure i had no chance but why couldnt she just tell me she had a boyfriend. afterwards i dont know what came to me i got even more depressed as i felt like i was back into square one again, all those break up emotions just came and rushed back into me. i went back into insomnia mode for the next 2 weeks and my blood pressure went up to 178, there was one night my blood pressure was so high i felt like i was about to faint. There is this girl who i got to know in February this year that my friend introduced who was trying to cheer me up, she would call me to see how i was as she was pretty nice to me. she also just broke up 5 months ago from a 6 years relationship which she hasnt moved on from as she never stop talking about her ex boyfriend to me. there was 2-3 days i kind of got a little suicidal and literally just said "fuck it im done with life", i was really tired of always meeting the wrong people and loosing my loved ones. i felt like it wasnt fare that i had to loose miya when i gave her everything. i somehow snapped my self thinking through all the shit i have went through and told my self "you didnt go through all that for nothing." i think mainly was i felt very lost as i didnt have any directions to go to and i had no goals. all my other friends were all getting engaged from their long term relationships and have a successful career which made me feel like i was behind and not sure what i want to do with my life.
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765 Name: 映画男 : 2016-05-04 17:23 ID:xFgyl7WD

after a few days, i traveled to japan with my friends for 10 days, only just got back last night. The trip to japan i think really healed me as i feel like im back to normal now. I met up with Miya this afternoon and took the train with her back to her station, we had a nice chat on the train but seeing her made me really miss her. I'm going to see miya again this friday after she finish off work and we're going to go watch Captain America: civil war. I'm pretty sure its a bad idea to see Miya but once i leave taiwan end of this month i wont be able to see her again till maybe next year. I'm still not 100% sure if moving back to melbourne would make it better for me.

766 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-05-16 15:50 ID:r+RopROC

>>765

let it go, man

767 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-05-17 17:48 ID:HaS96R9Z

Wow, so many years have passed since I last read this thread and checked your YouTube profile out. You're a trooper. Hang in there. Hope things turn out well for you.

768 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-05-20 09:10 ID:Heaven

its been 10 years and still going, amazing

769 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-07-12 04:42 ID:/LE4BJpy

you're a living legend, eiga otoko

770 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-08-27 05:25 ID:jcIMly5d

Why didn't I discover this thread sooner?!!

771 Name: 映画男 : 2016-10-05 07:11 ID:xFgyl7WD

Sigh I just went through two months of literally hell in June when i moved back to melbourne , will find time to update everyone

772 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-11-02 04:28 ID:6Pk/4yBt

I hope things are going well my friend.

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774 Name: Secret Admirer : 2016-11-25 10:16 ID:znN+X0Q7

benson, you do it wrong. after 10y you have to know it.
i recommend read:
mark manson - models - a comprehensive guide to attracting women
mark manson - the subtle art of not giving a fuck

775 Name: 映画男 : 2017-06-27 06:34 ID:KyBe68c7

its been so long since i posted and so much has happened.
but long story short i managed to pick my self up in the end, I found out Miya actually got together with someone else last year and is getting married soon which was super shocking for me.
What really helped me get better was i started gyming last year and it really helped me mentally and physically.
I've been hanging out with a lot of friends who came back from melbourne and met a few nice people.

Will find time to update, sorry i disappeared for so long.

776 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-09-27 11:28 ID:gxRnV2sw

Take care of yourself Eiga!

777 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-09-27 19:27 ID:R17RJeHy

dicks out for Harambe

778 Name: Secret Admirer : 2017-11-08 16:51 ID:mnMwLx42

EIGA WHATS GOING ON

779 Name: 映画男 : 2018-06-09 09:58 ID:nX6JtAy+

hey there, just to let you guys know i'm still alive

i moved to china last year and started a new life again, been here for 7 months.
I'm actually about to start dating with a women who's 5 years older then me.

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