Ok, lemme set up the classic backstory. I'm a few months past 19, I'd say I'm 19.25 years old right now. I don't really get along with a lot of my friends from high school anymore, since I had a major personality shift when I got into college. But there's this one girl from high school that's going to my college that I always used to get into arguments with, even though she's in my circle of friends. And I mean, we'd be at each other's throats with sharp objects half of the time over some stupid anime! Soon I got over the things about her that ticked me off, and I've been kinda crushing on her ever since.
Now, I'm a fatass american. You know, the 'nice guy' that no one in their right mind would date. And that's what I've been, just a general nice guy. She's always on some IM program, so I listen to her rant and rave about her dysfunctional family and - here's the worst bit - her psycho boyfriend. I cannot stand the guy, and not just because he's claimed my friend. The guy is just CREEPY and possesive. Luckily, the bastard lives more than 3 states away, so it's not like he's always hovering around her. Another problem, this girl used to be my best friend's girlfriend. The two of them have always been best friends, but recently she actually told me that she thinks of me as her best friend right now, even more so that she thinks of her boyfriend.
I felt terrible! Sure, on one hand, I feel great because I know I am helping someone get through this... but on the other, I feel like I've betrayed MY best friend by stealing his spot as her go-to guy. (Granted, she's made it obvious that if she gets no sex out of this relationship, she's just gonna trot on over to my friend's house and fuck his brains out.)
Here's the worst bit, there's some high schooler that - according to my friends that are still in HS - kinda has a thing for me. Of course, she's also fat. Here's my situation, though... I hate fat people, including myself. Granted, this girl is smart and has a nice personality... but that's where it ends. I shouldn't feel picky, really, but I am. I mean, I don't plan to be fat for long, I've already lost 50 pounds over the last half-year. (Putting me around 360-ish, which is better than before.)
So yeah, I'm stuck in a bleedin' minefield. I don't know what to do! Should I brush off the fattish girl, even though she's not bad off financially or academically and is apparently desperate for some 'attention'? Or should I wait it out with my friend, and twist the knife in my back just a little more?
Your not betraying your friend, a go-to guy isnt really a stealable thing, and a girl can have more then one best friend. Don't worry about that, and about liking her. Feelings are deeper then sex.
jeez jeez, whats up with all the teenage adolsecent problems up in here naw? its like an episode of one tree hill here....
anyway, ur not betraying ur friend, really not, a friends a friend. if ur friend (the guy) gets all like, OMG WTF then just say, hey shes my friend too, dont be all posessive. if he really does that, then thats kinda messed up cuz hes being way too posessive on her, and might even have a thing for her. also, question, think ur friend, the "old go-to guy", likes her? ever asked him about it? and if u like the girl, mebbe u should go for it? the psycho boyfriend, hah more than 3 states away, well, ever tried talking to her about it? man, that stuff never works. the fat-ish girl, if you dont like her, then you dont like her, friend then it is.
You've got to learn to play the race card.
The Race Card will always save you. However you are probably white and wapanese, so the Race Card will not help you.
HOWEVER, I would dump all my friends and make new ones. That IM girl sounds really lame. I would not lower myself to being anyone's dick in a glass jar.
Fat girls are not bad during cold weather. How fat is she? Is she a fixer upper? You realize that a couple of hours of hardcore sex burns more calories than a marathon. I mean if it is only 10 pounds or so over weight, that isn't bad. If she is morbidly obese then you are correct to pass. Summer is coming disregard cold weather women.
Find a spanish girl. With bronze skin and learn to play the race card. Tell her there are some things you will not do because it is a "white thing". Refuse to eat mexican food and demand that she cooks you Nordic food. Nordic food is best. Her name must be Consuela. Possibly even Guadalupe in extenuating circumstances.
However you are 19 and cannot manage a spanish girlfriend. Stick to masturbation until you are 21. When you get 21 you will get laid and relationships much easier.
Its gonna suck if you're still super fat, old, and still want someone who isn't fat. Even if you lose all that weight, you'll still look fat because all that extra skin stretches out and doesn't just disappear. That is unless you get some surgery done to remove it and all. So unless you have that money, will look hot after you lose that weight and KEEP it off... I doubt any cute, skinny girl will want to jump your bones.
Ahh, life insurance settlement from my dead old man. I should be able to afford corrective surgery in a few years, sir.
Just so you know, I'm not gonna say looks doesn't matter
but it doesn't matter if you lose all that fat, get a hair cut, some new clothes, etc look good and you could still be single.
Changing appearence is one thing which is easier, you also have to change your lifestyle which is easier said than done.
I don't want to be rude but I think its a bit shallow to be well fat like youself and still look down on other fat people like that,
If you can't change yourself don't expect some hot chick with just start going after you Unless you have an insane personality.
LEARN TO PLAY THE GODDAMN RACE CARD
I've been thinking thanks to all of youse, especially 4. Lemme set something else straight. I'm no average american wapanese. I'm a Spaniard living in America. I'm also a fan of anime, but nowhere near the level of a wapanese. My interest in Japan is the same as my interest in my home country of Spain as well as other countries I'm interested in, like Italy and Russia.
I think because I wasn't able to express my entire position correctly, I might have come across as shallow. I'm not. My worries about the HS girl isn't that she's fat, it's that she's technically illegal. I'm a college kid, she's not even 18. I don't expect losing weight to get me chicks. I'm doing that for myself. We've all read the reports about how fatties like myself are dying young. I don't want that, I've got a future ahead of me. I think I'm going to wait it out with this high schooler and learn about her more, see if she's as smart as people are telling me she is. If she's got a nice brain on her as well as a decent personality, then fuck the looks.
If things don't work out, I can always resort to enjoying solitude.
Thanks for the help, folks. More input would be loved.
>>10
loli is something she'll grow out of
The race card is something you play when you need to get ahead.
If this guy is hispanic or what lesser people my call a spic. Then he needs to grow a greasy mustache and go up to predominately white girls and say "'ey, bay bee....wha's you say we go out sometime. Come on gorgeous don't be stuck up." It would help if he had a hippie friend to go along with him.
I have played the Race Card many times to much success.
However, if he is fat and wapanese and still spanish then he probably looks like Luiz Gusman. The fat puerto rican guy from Boogie Nights. Not even in the deleted scenes did this man get anywhere near being laid.
So please, play the race card. It is your only hope.
I like to maim people who call me a spic. Just cuz I'm from Spain does not make me a mexican. And I'm not wapanese.
Okay, Ese. First of all -I- did not call you a spic. All right? I just said that LESSER PEOPLE might call you one. And mexican, spanish, puerto rican...they are all the same thing except for those goddamned Colombians.
Anyways. I gave you advice, and you might not be wapanese, but me calling you that was part of your warrior training. Also, I'm not afraid of you maiming ME because you're probably too fat and slow.
I'm not trying to hurt you 15, I'm trying to HELP YOU. YO TE AYUDAR!!! COMPRENDE!?
If you played the Race Card, you'd be swimming in bitches. But you haven't and probably won't. Here's a spanish word that might help you....CERVEZA! That'll get you laid. Oh wait, you're 19. ok ...never mind that. How about this....make friends with a real hippie. Call him "The Man". Rename yourself Pedro. THIS WORKED FOR CHEECH AND CHONG. And they got all kinds of ass.
Just let me help you, 15.
What the hell is this obession with the "race card"? Does anyone even have proof that this made up idea of a "race card" will even work?
...It worked for OJ.
He killed two white people with all his DNA at the scene and got away with it.
Plus he won the heisman trophy and was banging Tawny Kitaen in the 80s(FYI Tawny Kitaen was that redheaded slut in those Whitesnake videos).
I'd say the Race Card works pretty damn well.
For some reason I think the maturity level of this conversation has gone down...
I think that although the so called "race card" can help in some cases, your personality/the vibe you give off will make or break you. As for HS girl hmm... I know there are relationships like that which has worked out, but in most cases the girl that do date men much older don't tend to last long and evenutally go back to dating someone around their own age. (Just wondering what is your age difference?)
If you really want to go for her though find out her likes/dislikes, interest/hobbies, to see if you are compatible this will also let you find out if you were just going after her for looks or actually for who she is and vice versa.
I never had an intention of maiming you. I don't drink, though. Yeah, I'm a fat spanish-looking dude, so I don't expect to be getting laid. I DO have a spanish name, and Pedro sucks balls in comparison to it.
The age difference is only 2 years, so in a few months that won't matter. I don't think it's THAT big a gap in comparison to some other relationships I've seen.
I found out she's a fellow journalist. Not really into anime, but tolerant of it because there's a fan of it in the family.
Found out today that my friend's boyfriend, the one I mentioned in the first post, is moving into Cedar soon, so it's time for me to bury all previous ideas about her.
I think I'm just gonna sit back and see what happens on this one.
>we'd be at each other's throats with sharp objects half of the time over some stupid anime
>I'm also a fan of anime, but nowhere near the level of a wapanese.
Does not compute.
I think race card guy is also Steyr AUG guy from the other thread. Nevertheless, I lol'd.
Anyways, advice:
Your friend isn't going to be mad that you are now her shoulder to cry on. That shit isn't fun, and you are never going to get anything out of it. She'll call you at 3AM and wake you up crying that she needs a ride because her abusive boyfriend hit her and locked her outside or something and you will go. She will then say something as wonderful as "why can't more guys be like you?" and you will want to kill her.
The highschool girl.. forget about it. College and highschool do not mix well.
The ex-highschool girl she's never going to go for you. Never. The heat death from entropy will happen before she even thinks of you romantically, and even if she did she would either not want to "ruin what you have together" or would be weirded out because she "thinks of you as a brother".
You have no prospects, sorry.
Yeah, I think you're right. Oh, well. Thanks for all your help, 4-ch, I'll stop bugging you now.
Actually a Steyr AUG might help in this matter....
Hmm since she already has a boyfriend who is moving back in
I have to argee with
>>21
Chances are you won't get much out of this but considering where you are now I think being someone's shoulder to cry on or just someone's good friend should still be consider as a good thing. Interacting with her might improve your people skills in the future, and considering your previous state I think you might need them. So stick with it just cross the prospect of any romantic things with her out of your mind and go from there.
just dont' be her shoulder to cry on. then you'll end up as her friend and being close to her will only make it more painful for you. it won't end well.
yeah listen to this man...
you should always be available as a dick to suck on, but NEVER a shoulder to cry on...
HOWEVER if she's into revenge fucks(and most girls are) YOU MIGHT LUCK OUT. It won't mean anything, but it'll be fun.
Seriously invest in getting a Steyr AUG or if not that an HK91. Yeah, for you I'd recommend and HK91(or a clone).
And you really need to play that race card more, Ese.
Besides she sounds lame.
You can do better.
Beggers can't be choosers
Wtf is up with the serious jisaku jien in this thread? "race card" appears every 3 posts it seems.
Simple.
He's in the US, he's Spanish, and he needs to get laid.
Pllaaayy the raaacce card.
College girls just DIE over foreign students. He's not fat, he's FUN. He's not a goddamn furriner...he's EXOTIC.
See what I'm getting at? I've been giving you the best advice all along.
Broaden your horizons.
You're right. He's not fat, he's obese. Nevertheless, unless he has an extremely winning personality, I have doubts that the "race card" will work for this guy. So can people please stop with this fixation with the race card? No matter what, I have high doubts it will work and especially on a 350+ lb Spanish guy.
That's what I was thinking, too... I doubt someone could REALIZE I was Spanish were it not for my eyes, and nobody in their right mind gets close enough to me to notice a detail like that.
Anywho, the issue is dead. I got the advice I'm lookin' for, go help some other sod.
The recommended dosage of a reality check.
dam it stop it with the "race card" already
if you are a tub of fat it doesn't matter if you are spanish or not
>>Stick to masturbation until you are 21. When you get 21 you will get laid and relationships much easier.
Looks like this is my year!