In light of recent events I have noticed that there is a reoccuring belief in many circles that all women want is money/status/car. So I'm asking all the women on this board to tell us your opinion on the belief "Women want a man with money.".
Is is true, or false?
Personally, I don't care whether or not he has money. He should have enough money to support himself yes, but he doesn't need to support me and pay for me on dates and stuff. As long as he doesn't start leaning on me for money, that's fine. He doesn't need to be rich, just a nice guy.
>>3 Actually Im a chick, but not a prissy one.
Is an OP.
It does not really matter to me. As long as he has a car, I could care less what it is and he is able to take care of himself. I do not want a man who has to borrow money a lot from his friends and family.
>>2
Seconded. As I do not want to get in serious debt, someone with a lot of debts would make me hesitant. However, I do not like to mooch off people, dates for instances would make me feel terribly uneasy if both do not pay for their own food/whatnot. Going out with friends or significant others however can include one party (regardless of gender) paying for the other(s), as the deed will soon be repayed via the other party(/parties) paying another time or for something else.
(If it explains anything: I'm not American. I've been made to understand that it's a cultural rule in USA that men pay for women on dates. I don't know how common this practice is in Au/UK/other.)
i dont understand why guys pay everything for girls. usually both of them work, sometimes a girl gets more money than a guy does, but the guy still pays.
i dont understand this, simply it doesnt make sense at all.
>>10
Old traditions from back when women got significantly less paid than men, and women "had to" find good providers as they were expected to spend a significant time at home once they got pregnant/children. (And women who didn't get married and spawned offspring were seen as inferior and flawed...) Sadly, this is still true in many places on the planet.
Not everywhere though, bwahahaha.
Guys who keeps paying for the girl is just trying to 'buy' her love with money, but I think it's ok to do that but say something like "next time it's your treat", (a girl I'm friends with still owes me a drink and she still havent forgotten even if I forget, nice way to keep the girl remembering you). Me, once I find out the girl is those type that likes the guy to spend money on her I ignore her coz to me those girls are only a little better than a prostitute.
I'd be lying if I said money isn't a factor.
I don't want a guy to splurge on me (I'd be happy to split the bill). It's just that sometimes how much you spend on a girl makes her feel like that's how much her love is worth to you.
Just need the guarantee that my guy won't leave me all broke/run off with my money/feed me stones. As simple as that. Material girls are generall don't worth your time.
I'm a girl, and it's false. The only factor money has on a relationship for me is that he isn't a street person or something.
In fact, I feel really uncomfortable when a guy spends a lot of money on me...but also very grateful, of course. But still a little weird.
>>13 lol your love is cheap
>>13
That's horribly sad. I'd rather a guy spent a lot of effort on doing/making something for me, for a birthday gift or christmas or so, than money. Anyone can grab a wad of cash and waste it on junk. Sometimes something of very little monetary value is absolutely priceless. It's the effort and thought that counts, not the money.
>>17
point?
I am >>13.
First of all >>18, I am not one of those "gold diggers", and I would never marry anyone just for their money. I am simply answering OP's question and clearing up any misconception that money does not play a role in a relationship. Don't get me wrong, personality, looks, effort and what not, are what I value about a person. But you can't deny the importance of money in this day and age, especially when you want a steady relationship. Money = survival and security. Therefore it is instinctive that some women look for rich guys.
As I said before, I don't want a guy to splurge on me. But what I meant by my last sentence was that if a guy was willing to spend money on me, I would be happy. It means he's willing to sacrifice that much for me. Note the difference. It would make me happy, not fall in love. Of course, I would be just as happy if they sacrificed their effort for me, but that's another story.
>>19
Point is, how do you know what women want?
>>21
oh, so just because you are a woman you can speak for all of them?.. lol
>Do women really care about money?
yes
>>22
wow hypocrite.
[It's just that sometimes how much you spend on a girl makes her feel like that's how much her love is worth to you.]
guys even spend a lot of money on prostitutes!
I'm a girl and I always fall for broke-ass poor guys. They're usually the best, haha. You can't be a lazy slob, but not having a lot of money is fine if you show you care with something genuine instead of buying a girl dumb shit.
Unfortunately, not all girls are like you! Many girls (and guys!) are very shallow and base affection on money. Fortunately for us broke-ass poor guys, there are exceptions.
Just because a guy can't buy his girl a $1000 diamond ring (or even a $100 one!) doesn't mean he doesn't love that girl as much as a guy who could. Just as long as he finds he own way of showing her, that should be good enough. And if the girl loves him back, he can rest assured that he's found a girl worth dating.
>>26
If a girl/guy has found someone they genuinely like, then shouldn't even a ring made out of nicely braided string be good enough as a jewelry gift to make them happy? (extreme case scenario, obviously)
I actually know a couple who did that for each other. They were both broke-ass poor, haha.
>>28
im broke-ass poor, so instead of buying her a diamond ring, i bought a penis ring for myself.
>>28
I'm not broke-ass poor, but the thought appeals to me: to be given something that was made with love, effort and intent. An awesomely painted and made macaroni necklace (or a stylish, neat one made out of stripped CAT5 cords and electriconics components) would make me happier than a diamond one. But then again, I'm a weird and geeky.
Macaroni..Youd could pull it out and eat it when times get tough..
Girls definitely care about money. Of course it depends on how it manifests in their priorities. If they find themselves to be financially independent already, maybe they wouldn't care too much about the guy making a lot of money. However, they would lean towards the guy making at least as much money as she does.
But in the case of girl who doesn't already have any sort of reliable source of income, it's probably different. From my personal experience, she would probably be more attracted to guys who already have a fair amount of money or in a position to earn a lot in the near future. (If you were wondering, I'm the poor loser.)
>>32
I find it annoying how I'm the only girl in this thread who admits it and then gets shot down by other girls for it (who are probably still being supported financially by their parents -_-).
It's the same deal with looks. All the girls are like "I choose personality over looks". HAH. It's one thing to say something, another thing to actually do it.
>>33
Thing is, I personally don't feel a need to find some rich bloke. As long as my life is comfortable (being financially independent thanks to a good wage FTW) or acceptable, I'm happy. Though my relationship with the guy I'm currently involved with sort of screws up my finances for a while ahead, but that's okay. He's more than wonderful enough for it to be acceptable.
So while a lot of women do have significantly large finances as a base-criterion, there are also a lot who do not. It's as stupid to expect "all" females to either be interested in money, or not, as whether "they" prefer 'manly', dominant men, metrosexuals, or "wusses" that are into gender equality but aren't metrosexuals.
I'm not denying that some women find money to be one of the top three most important qualities in a man, but that's just some.
"All women want is money in a guy" is as fatally wrong as "no women want money in a guy".
i really dont understand why guys have to pay for everything. whats the logic there??
okay, just to make sure, i dont mind paying at all, but the thing is girls take it for granted that guys pay for everything, and i hate this part.
The man goes to work, and the woman stays at home and cleans. How is she supposed to pay for anything?
prostitution
As a woman, I do not care if a man is rich. However, for practical and obvious reasons, one needs money to survive these days. I think it is better to prefer a man who is financially responsible. Financially responsible doesn't mean rich. It means a man who knows how to budget and make good use of his money. It is a man who doesn't waste his money on gambling, drugs or useless things (although 'useless things' can be subjective) for instance.
I try my best to be financially responsible and I work because I don't want to depend on any man to support me. I don't use credit cards like there is no tomorrow and I expect a man to be the same. Besides, even if I have a man, I don't think I'd be comfortable asking him to pay for just about everything that I want or need. I mean, I cannot imagine myself asking a man to pay for my personal care products. Man, how pathetic is that?
If you broke-ass people can surf the net, what do I call those people I see in the streets?
>>39 tripfags
>>1
yes
I think logically, the woman doesn't look just at the money. A relationship encompasses so many different elements. However, the man is expected to at least be able to support himself and also pay for the woman's meals, etc. Yes, having a relationship costs money, but you don't want to come across as some cheapskate right? You don't have to be rich, just stable in your finances. I think a woman would like a guy with stability so she can have someone to lean on :)
Some women care about money. They want a rich guy who will take care of them and allow them to do what they want, when they want.
Some women do not care at all. If the guy is dirt poor, they don't care. They just want to be with him.
Most women are in between. They stay with a man because they like him, but they are more likely to be ABLE to like him in the first place if he has enough money to make it possible.
For example, girls like guys with cars, etc. for obvious reasons.
Car= free transportation at her beck and call (as long as he's along)
Free food, etc.= she can eat what she likes and do what she likes (with him) without spending her own hard-earned cash.
Gifts= she gets nice things - for free!
The girl could probably pay her own way, but it would make things more difficult. In the US you MUST have a car, so if the guy already has a car, that road block is removed; things can progress smoothly.
When the guy does these things he is (supposed to be) saying "I like you enough to go out of my way to do these things." It does not mean that a poor guy wouldn't do the same if he could, but that doesn't detract from the fact that the rich guy did do what he could.
In NYC a car can be quite the hassle. =P In fact, a lot of people don't have a car. So, YMMV.
Same with women and money. There have been times that I have been the financial support for my guys.
Making generalizations will only serve to embitter you unnecessarilly and guarantee that if you do get laid it'll be in one of those idiotic dysfunctional relationships in which either party really should consider getting out of their tree forts for.