I'm gonna punch the next woman who wants to be "just friends"
Thats it. long story short. a month if not more of buildup working like hell to woo her then wham.
I'm not being "too nice" I'm actually keeping somewhat distanced and not appearing to really "need" her. I tried basically everything and this is what I get?
Dan-Dan is angry. things were clicking. then when I felt the time was right to ask I got that.
Thats it. no awkward discussions just a more or less casual "Oh I just see you as a friend"
son of a bitch
I'm having the exact same problem-only I'm a girl. So my advice is to wait for a girl who acts like she's genuinely interested in you before making your move
I would be waiting a few decades if I were to take that advice. Not that it would be an awful thing, living alone has a fair few benefits, more money to spare being one of them.
You waited a month? That's about 3 weeks too long. Girls classify you as dateable or not VERY quickly. I would've gotten her number on the first or second time I met her and taken her on a date the very next week.
A month... haha. I waited two years.
Two. Fucking. Years.
I'm an idiot, I know.
It's either they just want to be friends or they tell you one thing to your face and end up fucking another man while you are still trying to get with her. You hear about that shit from her friends and shit sucks. I had to go through that same shit for 3 years. I got a girlfriend for like a fucking month though and now I am single again. Wait? Sure, I'll wait. Let's see which comes first though, MY DEATH OR MY LOVE. Emo? YES!!!!
We're like that.
We're very evil... If you haven't managed to kiss us within three months then do yourself a favour and give up.
Seriously, you have to move quickly. A woman sizes up whether she WOULD fuck you in the first half second she looks at you. You have a very narrow window to capitalize on a woman's initial interest, after that whether you WILL bone her is decided by the woman and her cold, cruel calculations about what kind of good you can do for her in the long run. There's a short period where you're new and exciting, and a different set of woman rules is in play. Once you're familiar, you're probably thrown in the "Friend Zone".
Confidence and aggression. Chicks go crazy for that shit, which is why even cheesy asshole creeps get laid on a more regular basis than "nice guys".
You tried your best, and failed,... Move on!
If a girl you don't like tries your best with you, you would just do the same.
On the other hand, this is a perfect place to rant, so help yourself!
>is decided by the woman and her cold, cruel calculations about what kind of good you can do for her in the long run.
Well, I'm hosed. I refuse to allow anybody near me if all they want is to use me. Especially if it's for the long run.
enjoy your lifetime of either loneliness or self-denial
> cold, cruel calculations about what kind of good you can do for her in the long run.
I think it's more accurate (and motivating) to say everyone is 100% selfish.
We only pursue people we ourselves interested in based on what they can do for us, even if what they do for us is raise our dopamine levels.
If a person was completely selfless, they might go around dating people they feel sorry for.
Do you want to waste your time with someone who doesn't care for you?
I wouldn't want to be a charity case, would you?
>If a person was completely selfless, they might go around dating people they feel sorry for.
You've never heard of a "pity fuck", or talked with a girl who wanted to dump a chump of a boyfriend but didn't want to hurt his feelings?
Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that we're all into "what's in it for me" at some level. But I do believe that most of it is largely subconscious. But you can't deny the human wtf-factor when it comes to choosing a mate. Otherwise you're denying our free will and turning us into mechanical animals.
> You've never heard of a "pity fuck"
Yes. I have. And I don't see who would want that.
> a girl who wanted to dump a chump of a boyfriend but didn't want to hurt his feelings?
Because she herself doesn't want to feel bad for doing it.
> But I do believe that most of it is largely subconscious.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
As for the rest, I'll leave that for the philosophy board that doesn't exist.
Agreed. You should come over for a drink some time, Socrates.