Ok, long story short... You may remember me from an earlier thread...
A girl contacted me online, and we quickly (about 2 weeks now) got really close... She's currently in a wheelchair until her leg fracture heals, and I can't see her for three weeks, and even then she's got to get a job again & a car... But she's become very hooked on me, and like, she opened up to me about some sensitive things... Very sensitive, and she hadn't trusted guys, that kind of thing, because of some abusive relationships in her past... Now, though, I'm starting to doubt that she's even terribly into the anime or gaming she claimed to be into when we met... She'd never done anything but emulate Nintendo or Super Nintendo... And when I've mentioned Anime names that I've watched, she never really goes into any detail on 'em... Now that she's been mentioning about going to church with her (I'm not religious), and that since her ex-relationship had her very religious, so now she wants to enjoy some drinking & smoking (she never told me she smoked, even occasionally!), now I'm starting to doubt whether I want to be with her compared to the potential of:
after three years of going to a local anime club, a girl my age (27) finally appeared, and was even somewhat flirty with me personally at the club, and seems amazing, but I figured, nah, I've got to be loyal to that online girl... This girl already lives in the town, and is a confirmed techie & gamer, and anime fan (has been to conventions), and even seemed interested in me...
OP Here,
Indeed, I'm meeting LocalGirl shortly, and she seems interested, so I'll update later tonight on where it went... Hope to get a better feel for her tonight...
That's pretty cool, I'm curious to hear how things went,...
Now in the interest of drama, LocalGirl should come up with something equally striking as OnlineGirl's debt, otherwise the suspense won't last very long.
Also, until March LocalGirl will have the crucial advantage of life contact. Since I always side with the underdog, I'll be rooting for OnlineGirl,...
OP Here:
Well, I'm back, and I had a great time with LocalGirl, intending to catch a coffee tomorrow;
We went to a mall, bought a few things at the bookstore, talked a lot, much smiling, laughter, & fun, contrary to other dates I've been on, went to dinner at a nicer restaurant, (she drinks socially, I don't really, but I still had some beer), and went shopping afterward again;
It was very fun, and though the concept of "date" never really came up, there was a considerable bit of flirting, and phrases like "we've got to do this again", and "ok, we don't have to invite anyone else, really"...
I think we really hit it off, in my opinion, and she doesn't have any striking drama that I'm aware of, just some wilder days across the country from her youth;
Now, on to OnlineGirl, who, if she said the word "serious relationship" or planned out the time & date we'd be serious one more time in her e-mail, or pulled any more surprises, I was ready to freak out...
I'm ready for another angry/hurt backlash e-mail, because I finally admitted to her that:
I used the "obviously, as you can see, I've got my flaws, so I hope they don't anger you", line again, and also mentioned that rather than March 1st that we'd agreed upon, "I know it would be better once things like those divorce filings are filed for"...
I don't feel right knowing she's still technically married (especially since she said her ex's blamed things on her), and I just think it went too fast... Maybe it's because of going out with LocalGirl, and maybe there's a future to it, maybe not, but right now, I think OnlineGirl needs to get stabilized, life-wise, before dating can begin normally...
I'll probably draw her wrath in some form for that, but I've got to be true to my feelings, right?!
Although I feel a bit bad for OnlineGirl, I think you are making the right decisions. And yeah, you've got to be true to your feelings.
Also, she's not being frank with you - maybe for the gaming stuff, but also for the paperwork, which is a more serious case. And that's absolutely not a clean basis for a relationship, you know?
OP Here;
Indeed, I agree; I feel bad for OnlineGirl, believe me... I just do think I am making the right decisions, regardless of how she I led her on earlier...
And I did indeed incur her wrath, to which I have not yet responded...
Her response, was basically that:
"I'm pushing her away, first that I didn't want to get serious, now that I don't want to date a "married" woman. That I knew she was 'separated', and she's now just feeling extremely disgusted.. (While I knew "separated", I didn't know till after getting lovey dovey in e-mail that she hadn't even filed or couldn't afford to file for divorce yet)
"To repeatedly go back on what I say makes no sense at all." She said she emphasized words like "eventually" and "one day", and didn't think she was putting a timetable on it...
She said that "her marriage has been over for some time, but that I'm holding it against her because she fell & hasn't been able to work" (As far as I can piece together from the slightly conflicting timelines she's mentioned, she only left the guy 3 or 4 months ago, at best...)
She said that "I know as well as she does that the divorce won't be filed for in a couple of months, and by then, I will have forgotten about her & moved on with my life"
"I know all this e-mailing stuff will be drawing to an end real soon, so thanks for the time we had, and she didn't know if she was saying that "ticked" or really meant it.
She closed by saying "The thing is is my divorce isn't going to be filed for until May or June, and let's be honest, we ain't going to wait that long for each other, no matter what we feel for one another or what we have in common. I am just being realistic. "
(I didn't realize I was in a "race" to find someone... She actually contacted me on a personals site I hadn't even been using, I've not been actively seeking anyone out, to be honest... I really rather still feel deep down that she should have her life & situation in order before looking for people on a dating site, so quickly after a breakup with her husband that isn't even applied to be finalized, when she can't even get out to see anyone... I wish I had understood all of it to begin with, before I got carried away, and led her on like I did...
As much as have said she'd go slowly, she still kept mentioning getting "serious", "when we get serious", and "I'm confident I'll get serious", "you're the only one for me" and such every two or three sentences, and as romantic as I may think that may sound, I don't think you can say that properly about a guy you haven't even met yet, and aren't in a position to meet casually...
I haven't yet composed a reply to her, so I'm open to suggestions, but I still feel strongly this way, so I don't think there's any going back, but to say that I'm sorry she feels that way, and that we perhaps don't have as much in common as we thought, if we feel so differently...
OP Here one more time, with a weird followup that literally just dropped into my mailbox from OnlineGirl...
A followup to her angry reply that kinda actually scares me, as even my parents said this might happen, half jokingly, but it actually did happen...
She basically e-mailed me saying "Wow, I just found out today that my ex apparently did file for divorce paperwork, and I just got a copy today & signed it, wish I would've checked the mail before getting unhappy & saying all that"...
The words she used were "I'm Free! I'm free! I'm free to date!!"
(That's kinda not the first thing that should be going through someone's mind after something like that... I thought she already felt she was free to date beforehand, and that I was the wrong one for feeling otherwise...)
She said that her "pessimistic" side says I was only using the "Serious", and then the "Married" excuses to avoid dating her and that I'll come up with another...
Yikes... Personally, this whole "I'm suddenly, conveniently freed-up" story scares the heck out of me, I find it almost impossible to believe such a thing is true... I mean, I find it very suspiciously convenient...
I think this time, I'm going to reply late tonight, at the suggestion of a co-worker... I still don't have a good response, especially to this... odd... statement...
I would walk away from OnlineGirl. Seriously, when you were posting her replies earlier and she kept putting "one day we'll get serious" etc warning flags were going up for me and as it's gone on now you've picked up on it.
Even if the papers did come through today (And come on, I think most of us think that's not the case), she's the one coming on crazy. But the problem is you are seeing it as your fault and your job to not hurt her emotionally. It's not your fault that she started talking about getting serious so early on. You say it's your fault for not stopping her, but I don't know anybody who would come on that strong so soon even if it was what they felt - she should have at least kept herself in check until you guys actually had a couple of months dating.
As for the marriage thing anyway, I personally wouldn't mind dating a girl if she was awaiting divorce - but in this case its the craziness of the situation that puts me off. She just seems to rush into every relationship, and it wouldn't suprise me if her ex's had been dragged along with the current (like you were at first) and thats why the marriage didn't work. But that's just my opinion based on what you've told us about her.
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With LocalGirl it sounds very promising! I really think this is the route to go down - there's no doubt about sharing hobbies and no baggage from previous relationships/financial trouble.
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Overall, I would say don't feel that you owe anything to OnlineGirl. She blew her chance by going way too fast into talk of a serious relationship. A lot of guys would have walked away there and then. But you didn't. Which makes me think maybe you are too worried about hurting her, and I can understand that. But really she doesn't seem to have as much in common with you as you thought; it seems like she's idealised you because all she's seen are words on a screen and its easy to get carried away projecting what you want the words to mean. In the long term, it will be much better for all 3 of you to sort this out sooner rather than later. If things start to get more serious with LocalGirl you're going to find yourself in the position where you know you want to be with LG but feel you "owe" OG a date or whatever, and that is only going to cause friction between LG and OG, which could end up with LG losing her trust in you (And trust is the most important thing in any kind of relationship)
Best of luck!
I'm seeing a pattern here of her "HOW COULD YOU SAY SUCH HORRIBLE THINGS" emails immediately followed by "OH I DIDN'T MEAN IT I'M SORRY HEY LOOK EVERYTHING IS OK!" emails. That right there is just creepy by itself, like she can't control her anger or something, and has a tendency to lie to cover up her actions. That to me is a big 'ol red flag and a sign to GTFO before she turns even scarier than she already is.
Besides, it sounds like things are progressing well with LocalGirl, stay on that path, it sounds a LOT healthier.
OP Here, with pretty positive results on both fronts!
OnlineGirl: After the "I'm free to date now" suddenly response, she sent me another e-mail yesterday, asking if I was just busy or not talking to her... So I finally sent an e-mail basically using my ultimate panic-button technique, which involves the infamous "I realized I'm not ready for a relationship at this point". I was very nice & honest about it, saying that I'd been thinking about it, and just didn't know how I felt, and that too much in my life was uncertain for me to be in a relationship with anyone just yet".
I had prepared myself to receive her wrath, but shockingly, I assume she thought it over (several hour delay until her response this time around), and she said that she understood, and doesn't have hard feelings for me, and was glad that I figured it all out now; She said she would still want to be email pals, if that was cool with me, and that maybe more someday, but that she couldn't say she'd wait around for me when I was ready for a relationship!
(A win situation, because it didn't close the door with her, but didn't tie me down prematurely with her! I'm shocked & amazed by the result there!)
LocalGirl: We met at the weekly club we go to, and at one point, slipped out of the meeting (weren't interested in the showings at that point in time), to go get a drinks at a nearby coffee spot, and she didn't seem to mind sharing each other's drinks, either;
We chatted on a couch together at the coffee place, we talked about maybe going back to the meeting, and briefly idly thought about going to her house to watch shows if the meeting was still un-entertaining, though she realized what a mess it was, and so we then went back to the meeting, and later, after the meeting, though another guy was walking with me at the time, she gave her phone #, "in case anyone wanted to get ahold of her";
All in all, we weren't like, officially "dating" or anything, but it still somehow felt great just hanging out with her... I don't know if she feels the same way, or is perhaps wanting to get to know me better or what, like testing the water... I don't know yet, but it felt great to just be together like that!
I think in the past I've rushed into relationships too much, where it was pre-determined that myself and the other were on an official "date" basis from before we met, and this girl's the first time I've just... hung out with someone on a person to person basis without the official declaration that we're dating, and I think it felt right somehow, in a "right" way I've not had before anytime I've dated before this...
LocalGirl is very much interested - girls won't just give out their numbers without being asked. Yes she probably wants to get to know you more before you start dating proper, but she seems keen.
The phone number thing was a test, you'll pass if you don't make a big deal about giving her number to others, but you show interest in a protective, dominant male form.
But I want you to leave OG the fuck alone, she sounds like someone I knew who... well, she's insane. I didn't see it at first, we met online then met IRL a few days later since she lived so close. But when I was with her she kept bitching about her ex bf's new gf, and how his old girlfiend died in a rock-climbing accident. The next thing chilled my spine: she then sat there laughing about how his girlfriend was dead.
While I'm now saying OG will be this bad, she doesn't sound stable enough to live her life alone. I want you to do something daring that you may not agree with at first. Knock some sense into her, tell her she needs to sort herself out and stop rushing into relationships. Tell her she has family to help with her problems and if they can't help she needs to seek professional help. I hope you see where I'm going with this.
The reason I'm saying it isn't because I'm a sadistic asshole that enjoys seeing unhappy people, but because I want her to sort her life out before she makes it worse. I have no contact with her so you have to do it for me.
A thousand thank yous if you actually go through with it.
As far as I know, OG already knows she rushes too much into relationships,... so why don't you let OP and OG sort out their stuff instead of pushing your private angenda and past grudges? OP is no therapist.
OP Here;
With updates, primarily on LocalGirl! :)
OG: I do indeed gather that she rushes too much into relationships; I think she does want to quickly get back to that "having a guy at home every night" mentality, and I'm frankly surprised she hasn't e-mailed me more all weekend, rather than letting me relax; As it is, I think I'll drop her an e-mail today, just to stay in touch, but none of this dating business! I don't want to be her therapist, which is also why I got away from being involved, too!
LocalGirl, since going out Thursday, has been playing an MMO with me, since, on Friday night & last night! I had lent her some discs to reinstall an MMO that she played about a year ago, after we'd idly been chatting about it IRL, and she's gotten back into it now and I've created a character on her server to play with her! We played late into the night last night, we played until 3 AM, and while we both did eventually get tired, it was quite fun!
We were both cracking old movie references, making each other laugh, I flirted some, and she didn't seem put off by me!! She seems to have no problem with spending that long gaming with me, which really feels nice, I've never met anyone like this!
I'm going to drop her an e-mail shortly, to see if either later tonight, or tomorrow, when she's done with her classes, if she'd like to go out for dinner, or even a movie... Trying to word it so it still sounds casual, as I don't want to be too serious or too fast with her! I've never come across anyone like this before in my life, and don't want to ever screw this up!
OP Here;
With updates, primarily on LocalGirl! :)
OG: I do indeed gather that she rushes too much into relationships; I think she does want to quickly get back to that "having a guy at home every night" mentality, and I'm frankly surprised she hasn't e-mailed me more all weekend, rather than letting me relax; As it is, I think I'll drop her an e-mail today, just to stay in touch, but none of this dating business! I don't want to be her therapist, which is also why I got away from being involved, too!
LocalGirl, since going out Thursday, has been playing an MMO with me, since, on Friday night & last night! I had lent her some discs to reinstall an MMO that she played about a year ago, after we'd idly been chatting about it IRL, and she's gotten back into it now and I've created a character on her server to play with her! We played late into the night last night, we played until 3 AM, and while we both did eventually get tired, it was quite fun!
We were both cracking old movie references, making each other laugh, I flirted some, and she didn't seem put off by me!! She seems to have no problem with spending that long gaming with me, which really feels nice, I've never met anyone like this!
I'm going to drop her an e-mail shortly, to see if either later tonight, or tomorrow, when she's done with her classes, if she'd like to go out for dinner, or even a movie... Trying to word it so it still sounds casual, as I don't want to be too serious or too fast with her! I've never come across anyone like this before in my life, and don't want to ever screw this up!
Probably you should start thinking about bringing OG's case to an end,... It would be more fair to her, and would also avoid pissing LG if she realizes you have this kind of contact with another girl. Anyway, it does not look like you'll go anywhere with OG.
>>38
It seems as though you're all too happy to jump on the relationship train, OP. Judging by how eager you were to be involved with both women, my advice would be to consider how much you need to slow down, and then take three more mental steps back.
LG doesn't seem to be going anywhere at the moment. It might be worth it to throw a "You're cute" her way, but I suggest slowing down and just hanging out until you calm down and can think rationally again. If she says things that seem to all of us herre to be her pushing you to indicate interest, that'll be a different story.
As for OG, my advice follows >>39. LG would be jealous at least, if she has any interest in you, and potentially sickened by it. If LG thinks nothing of you, it's likely she'd be turned off.
OG is also going to need a bit of time to separate herself from you, and you saying "Well, I was a bit hasty and immature" Right Now would sound fake or evasive. Be honest and say what you should, "I need some time to sort through things, so I'll probably be responding less for a bit."- or something to that effect.
OP Here
>>40's correct, and mentions a good point, and taking it slowly this time is exactly what I'm doing, since you're right that she's not going anywhere, so I can take my time getting to know her (For example, we just finished for the night playing an MMO for a few hours together, with nothing specifically "romantic" or anything like that, just good natured fun together!
In the past, I myself, have been too eager to get directly into a "relationship", passing the getting-to-know-someone phase, and I don't want to do that anymore! This girl came out of the blue, and indicated that she's at the least, friendly & comfortable with me, and I want to take that where it will go naturally, rather than directing it by complicated notions of that "relationship" word!
And I will indeed drop OG a line to continue dropping it off, albeit not bluntly (as that would sound fake or evasive, just honest, as I do need time to sort through things (I haven't replied to her all weekend, as I'd said I'd be relaxing this weekend earlier, and I actually felt glad I wasn't feeling obliged to reply for a change...)
>>41 As my Brit/Oz friends would say, "Good on ya!"
OP Here
Just to update, we played an MMO for several hours each night over the weekend, very casual, and I did send her that e-mail sunday about perhaps if she'd like to go out for dinner and perhaps a movie this week, and she read it today, and replied "As for
dinner and possibly a movie-- Sounds great, how about Tuesday?" I didn't expect it, so it floored me... I'm again going for the casual, nothing serious thing, and in a short bit, I'm going to log onto the MMO, and be playing with her, as she mentioned that she'd be getting back from a late school meeting and would then be on, and that we could try a particular dungeon! Just wanted to update the folks here who were interested!
>>43 Thanks for the update. Glad to see it's going well.
It's good to keep it slightly casual but I forsee you reaching the friend zone. Let her know ou like her before it's too late.
OP Here
Well, since we're going to just dinner, not the movie (she needs to get home to help her mother if her mother needs help that evening), how would anyone suggest I let her know that I like her?
I do agree, I want to let her know this isn't just a "friend" thing, but I still don't want to go too fast...
Suggestions?
I think you need to bo honest with her now. Given how the situation progresses, it is the best for both of you, before you get too close without saying anything and the situation gets awkward.
I'm not so sure on the course of action,... It depends on her and on you. For instance, I don't think you should say that you love her (unless she says that herself), because that would be rushing too much. It's much better to say that you enjoy her company, and that you would like to go out more often with her.
If she accepts that, it would be a huge advancement. But before coming to that it would be good to know her views on what is romantic, what does she think of relationships, etc. It's useful to gather intelligence in order to know how to proceed.
OP Again:
I do agree, I have to admit that I want something more than friendship, before we're just "friends hanging out", and I've gotten the feelings she's that way, too... I'm just not sure how to make that clear without going too fast...
I sent her a valentines item in the MMO this morning, with a thank you note, after I found she'd sent me some useful items online after I had to go to sleep for work in the morning and she'd continued playing;
Hopefully that gets her thinking about it, and I'm going to send her an e-mail shortly as soon as I think of a place to meet for dinner this afternoon... I just still don't know what I'm going to say or do in person, though... I'm considering a small gift that could be taken as an "I saw this and thought of you", to break into saying that "I kind of like you, as well as us going out like this"...?
OP Here with one more note, as she hasn't e-mailed me back yet about a time this afternoon, but I expect her to sometime now:
I did pick up a small gift I mentioned in my post before this, to be able to say "I saw this & thought of you, I thought I'd surprise you with it, after you sent virtual stuff to me earlier!"
I'm thinking about continuing along the lines of:
"I saw it and thought of you, because I rather do like you, you've been growing on me, and I enjoy us going out like this, I hope you've come to like me the same way too, because I didn't want to assume what your thoughts or opinions were on things like dating or anything like that... I hope they're like mine, but I didn't want to presume too much"
What do you guys think? Suggestions??!
Sounds good,... go for it!
Do not. Give her. A gift.
Ok?
If you start buying her stuff to win her affection now, it will never stop. Just be blunt, tell her you've been spending a lot of time together and you're really enjoying her company. Then grab her hand, look deeply into her eyes and say something cute like "I think I really like you <name>". If she responds well go in for the kiss. Don't say "HURRRRRR I LOVE YOU BABEY".
But, preparation is the key. Last time I did something like this we got dinner and I bought the least pungeant food I could find, then we sat on the beach and talked, finishing each others sentences, etc. Then I pulled a move, I looked up and saw it was about to rain, and that we were in the moonlight so I said "I've never kissed in the rain before" then bang, we are kissing. Everything just flowed from there.
My story may or may not help you but I'm trying to say it's not hard, just think on your feet as this is all natural conversational ability. Oh yeah, and treat the night as if you're about to propose, meaning NOTHING goes wrong if you can help it and if it does don't let it affect the night.
All said, have a wonderful evening and I hope it works out.
OP Here, with some results:
Well, I got rather nervous when she hadn't e-mailed me back about a place or a time, but since I knew she's very lax at checking e-mail, and at the advice from a co-worker, I calmed down, and just got the "What's the worst that could happen" opinion, and called her house, and she replied with "So where do you want to eat tonight"!
We did go out to eat at a buffet, and though she wanted to pay for it with a gift card, I paid the balance, and we were ok with that; I honestly forget how it happened, but some casual joking flirting happened, which lead to her bringing up talk of dating, where she said that she hasn't dated anyone since her ex (she had briefly moved in with a kid years ago and even become engaged, only to realize he was a slacker who would always talk about a proper career), and she hadn't been even looking for any kind of relationship or dating, as she feels afraid she would end up hurting someone like myself's feelings if it didn't work out, because she "has her flaws" (When I asked what could be that bad, she said she'd gained about 100 unwanted lbs from a medication she took after being diagnosed some years ago with some form of a bi-polar disorder, and she drinks socially and very occasionally smokes, not often at all, though)
Since we were both very casual & laughing/happy, I said that those flaws didn't sound terribly earthshattering, and that I'd certainly had my heart broken before, so I asked if a date is what we were on at the time, and she said yes, so I said, "well, then fine, this can be our first date, then!", and she said, "I'd like that!"... I admitted, to be honest, that I'd had a bit of a growing crush on her since I'd met her, and she said "Me too!", and we agreed that we would continue to date; I did bring her a small gift (a pack of some Trading Cards from a Card Game I saw in a store), and used the line "I saw this and thought of you", and she loved them, and said that she already had a starter deck of that game at home, and never had a chance to play it with anyone, she had collected it for the artwork, to which I replied that we should play it sometime!
We then left, and before we went home seperately, she said "Gimme a hug", and we hugged, and talked a bit more outside, then went to leave, and I said "Be careful driving home safely", and gave her another quick hug.
Then, I got online after getting home, and we ran through a dungeon on the MMO together until about midnight, since today I had work & she had classes...
So I did have a wonderful evening, I had it all planned out, and kept it still happy/friendly & casual while making it clear I didn't want to be just a friend, on the other hand!
Congratulations!
Now do your best to keep her!
Congrats!
So OG has a huge debt, and LG is bipolar,... Still, not sure if that levels it ^_^
Good luck with LG, and don't forget to behave fairly with OG.
Dude... you like them fat?
gained a hunny pounds?
Damn
>>56
Thanks for your, as usual, useful input.
Hooray for you! Just be careful, it sounds like you could possibly end too much time together in the early stage leading to the relationship burning out.
But stop listening to us, you're already pretty set on what to do, you just need affirmations from your peers time to time.
Fatty fat fat fatnugget obese
>>59
gb2/street/ cripfaggot
>>59
You know, some people are into that. It's not any different than you liking white girls who are out of your league.
>>61
In fact it's better because, you know, OP managed to land a hit with that girl. Thee hee.
OP Here
Thanks for the support and advice guys! I'm actually playing online with her right now, to be honest! (I actually think playing online like this helps make the budding relationship more fun, at least for now! We're not even in a group together, we've been running solo, and planning to get together at a set time to run through a dungeon together;
(And I'll take "da PG king" comments in stride, as it's sad that this supposed "crippin street thug" is so shallow... What I'm "into" and "like" is compatibility and personality, and I like hers, not less than beauty-model physical features!
Thanks again for the support, all of you!! I'll keep in touch!
yo dawz don be hatin imma get mah crew 2 fuk yall up.
OP Here, just wanted to update you all!
We've gone out since then again, in fact, last night;
We had been planning on going out Tuesday, after a big test she had been studying hard for, and then on Saturday night, she asked while playing MMOs together, if I worked the next day, to which I replied nope, and she said that "maybe her brain needed some encouragement before the test, as well, and would I like to meet her tomorrow night for dinner;
I picked her up at her house, and we went to an upscale restaurant, followed by a quick walk on the streets, and then went to see her house, which she was embarrassed about, but I found no problems with, as it's as messy as mine;
Her mother is usually away, and she has the house to herself, so we just talked for awhile in her bedroom, before we drove to get a six-pack at the local pizza place (she drinks, I don't really), and I left after we said how it was our second date, and hugged, and then went home to play with her a bit longer on an MMO; Before we both logged off & went to bed, I told her I'd had a wonderful night, and good luck with her big test today;
We're going out again tomorrow, this time she's treating, to a wings place, and I'm considering that since it's the third date, and we'll be walking down the street, I'll take the step of holding her hand at some point, when the right time arises...
Yeah, but I get them slut girls that hot. just cause I cant get daddys little angel dont mean I cant score shit.
hahaha,another "version" of densha. Good luck though
>>67
Your mongoloid language, hatred of books, fear of the gang you call friends, sure path to juvie, tough-guy internet threats and wigger attitude, in addition to bragging about pussy that has been stretched out to the size of a tractor tire, indicates you can't score shit.
Ok, we will see.
Why are so many people responding to da PG king anyways >_>
It ruins good interesting threads.
Some should just use self control and ignore him. Or maybe a mod could delete his posts?
>>71
I guess because it's funny. Maybe I'll give it a rest though.
I wouldn't endorse deleting his posts, being an idiot isn't a crime.
Writing an email address into a forum post isn't a crime either. Plenty of non-crimes get deleted on fascist forums.
>>71 Because we enjoy it. Plus, I'm collecting da PG king screenshots for later use. :D