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Does there exist true love? (46)


1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-07 02:23 ID:ITbJyHo0

I read an article about love a while ago. Where it said that the phrase "til death do us part", was created in a time where the spouses didn't survive longer than about twenty years.
The answer that remain, meant that love doesn't exist, and that the grim statistics reveled the true reality of marriage and love.

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2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-07 02:36 ID:zQCV5IDq

whatever it is you cant change anything, face reality and wait till you die

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-07 03:47 ID:xKGanAH2

>>1
sadly enough, ive thought about it this way too, alot of love is just, superficial....have you been in a relationship before? i havent either, and when ive brought this up with people, they just tell me, youve never been in a relationship before, so, i gotta check it out for myself

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-07 05:52 ID:jwRjiHtO

I do not really question these sorts of things because whatever I am feeling feels really good. Whether it is love or just a "childish and naive whim of emotions". If it feels right and it makes you happy, what does it matter if love exists or not?

5 Name: Not a Secret Admirer : 2006-03-07 06:27 ID:Heaven

Love is not "til death do you part". Marriage is. Or rather, it's supposed to be, according to the vows.

Also, the general public is naive about love. But then, the general public is naive about a lot of things.

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6 Name: 1 : 2006-03-07 10:03 ID:ITbJyHo0

>>2
You're right about that.

>>4

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7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-07 23:11 ID:tgs1LoKO

It exists, just don't expect it to solve any of your problems.

8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 00:16 ID:Heaven

>>5
People write their own vows these days anyway, and that clause isn't always in there. It's certainly in the fixed Christian one which people use if they have no creativity of their own.

9 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 02:21 ID:jwRjiHtO

I think love exists, but it does not always last.

10 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 06:49 ID:jDWRyVMz

Well, it's easier to survive if you never had a relationship before. Once you had one, even if it's plainly superficial

11 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 06:50 ID:jDWRyVMz

Crap... stupid new computers ( perfect? I think not )... anyways, this is what I meant:

>>6

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12 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 06:57 ID:jDWRyVMz

Well, it's easier to survive if you never had a relationship before. Once you had one, even if it's plainly superficial

13 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-08 07:29 ID:jDWRyVMz

>>12

Damn you, Safari! ( stupid user accounts, and network homes, and whatever nonense for other stuff ). pouts

14 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-14 07:21 ID:tT7pR896

True love is nothing more than a very powerful literary device.

15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-14 07:27 ID:Xkk5ONis

>>1
Yes, it does contain real love. Though it is more rare.

16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-15 02:59 ID:3Lso7I5h

A chemical imbalance induced by the reptilian brain to increase the likelyhood of bonding to a seed carrier. The subject often displays symptoms similar to those of insanity, ranging from mild mania to extreme delusions

17 Name: 1 : 2006-03-16 04:02 ID:ITbJyHo0

>>16

tHank yOU I love YoU.

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18 Name: Aquilo : 2006-03-16 04:55 ID:rZT1F4Mq

>>11
"Ignorance is bliss."

I actually have to agree its much easier to survive before you had a relationship compared to after you had one.

19 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-16 08:27 ID:w2uD0hQa

>>17

You sound bitter because you aren't loved by anyone and have to talk down the thing you can't receive. You're a pretty sad case.

20 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-16 14:02 ID:PT+0QxMP

>>17

SIGNED

21 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 12:29 ID:P+sxR1o2

>>1
there really is. and it's easy to find.
all you need is to look for it.
then you will find it.

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22 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 16:24 ID:3Lso7I5h

>>21
hahaha oh wow
This is not true at all :(

23 Name: SynthL0rd : 2006-03-17 18:06 ID:giUgqdzf

I've been dating my gf for about a month now, and we've been ending all our conversations with "I love you <3" be it online or the phone. Now, in most of my what I call "potential" relationships I would obsess about the person the ENTIRE day, and would wait anxiously for them to come online, and when they do I would wait as long as I could for them to message me and if they didn't I'd ALWAYS be the first to do it. Now that I'm in an actual relationship, I don't think about her as much as I did with all my previous crushes, I have a large amount of care and compassion for her, she comes to me every night in my dreams (except last night for some reason) and she ALWAYS messages me first. At first I questioned if this really was "love" and if I truly do "love" her, I don't know what love is really, but I think it might be something to do with the feelings we have for one another. Maybe love is obsession for a person, minus the compulsive need to know where they are all the time and once you're done work you can't wait to be with them in the night :).

24 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-17 23:18 ID:Xkk5ONis

>>23
Excessive clinginess tends to mostly be a sign of that the person is feeling rather insecure about the relationship.

25 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-18 13:56 ID:iAKA5x8b

>>23
Don't worry, it's always like that with the first love. One day she'll leave you because of that and then you'll be more experienced. I can tell you that it's very important to trust in the other person and don't worry too much cuz it'll eat you in the end. Doubts only leads to some more doubts and in the end you'll find yourself spying her, and you may discover something you wouldn't really want to know. Anyway, just try to trust the one you love.

26 Name: 1 : 2006-03-22 03:11 ID:ITbJyHo0

>>19

The thing is that I don't have the endurance to put a mask on myself. I am a bit depressed, and confused.
A person like you just make me realize that I am of no need to anybody, since I am only bothering them with my anxiety of everything, and the possibility of being anlone forever, like my mother.

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27 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-24 10:07 ID:mDxFnD0U

>>26
Cheer up emo kid.. ahem hug memes aside, I can relate a lot. Except for that i don't feel betrayed when they can't put up with me, as i expected nothing less :-p Well, except for the fact that i've been working on my issues for a decade. (cynism and pessimism got me in as early as kindergarten, i'm in my early 20's now) And you should also give cognitive therapy a try.

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28 Name: 1 : 2006-03-27 02:40 ID:ITbJyHo0

>>27

I know you're right about love, but I have so much doubt about myself. That I even consider myself a bad person, since I do bad things like not going to bed in good time, or messing my life up.

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29 Name: 1 : 2006-03-27 03:05 ID:ITbJyHo0

I should maybe also mention that I also doubt if I'm mature enough. I feel childish of not being able or have the real courage to help myself, and being dependence of my mother.
My mom have tried to have me read self-improvement books, but I have agreed to try, but haven't had the time or being too tired of trying to read.

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30 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-03-27 03:31 ID:8rjiYqXu

Does our society really contain real love, or is it just a childish and naive whim of emotions and hormones?

I think our society does contain real love, as love comes in different forms. If, however, you are strictly talking about love on a relationship level outside of that of the family and friend realm, then I would still have to say yes.
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31 Name: Mireille guy : 2006-04-11 09:53 ID:deDuXgCF

i really liked what >>1 and >>7 said.
>>1 "Also that sex is the only thing that really matters, since trust is insufficient to sustain relationships these days."

most of the rest... wrong wrong wrong. wrong!

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32 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-11 10:07 ID:Heaven

4Love? 4-ch.net/love?

33 Name: 1 : 2006-04-14 04:50 ID:ITbJyHo0

I know all that you say is true and right about love.
But I can't stop doubting, I sincerly can't really feel safe with other people than my mother.
I always fear that people will manipulate me or be just plain mean.
I know that all I fear is sometimes without reason, but I can't feel relaxed since I'm aware that mean and dumb persons are everywhere.

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34 Name: 1 : 2006-04-14 04:52 ID:ITbJyHo0

Who am I fooling of course you people won't read my reply. It's too long. Just give a damn about if you want.

>>32

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35 Name: 27 : 2006-04-14 20:00 ID:mDxFnD0U

>>28
Ah, damn.
So, we need to talk.
Got AIM, ICQ or MSN?

36 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-15 03:57 ID:yh3l/UAj

>>1
What country / language is your native? You've got an interesting way of writing, but it isn't unpleasant.

You remind me of me, a bit. Also, you may have a social phobia / social anxiety / anxiety problem. Talk to a doctor and maybe get some medication for it. Paxil?

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37 Name: Wanderer : 2006-04-19 10:21 ID:wiJV9hkr

True love is a lie...wait...ALL love is a lie.
Your telling me that there's just this...connection that makes you want to be together..nope.

just like the rest of society "love" is sex or people wanting a wife/husband to act like their mom/dad and take care of their lazy selves.Its all an act the closest thing their is to love is friendship. So pretty much get some friends..that are girls/guys..whatever and marry your best friend of the opposite sex. Thats as close as you will ever get.

38 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-19 22:25 ID:/hLLNk30

I don't think english have separate words for these, but oh well... I read in some sience magazine that "Just-fell-in-love"-love is believed to be a psychosis while "old love" is reason.

After seeing my friends and my brother (I have never fallen in love myself) fall in love, I'm ready to believe the psychosis part. True love exists, if you aren't overly mentally stable. Also, it will pass.

39 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-21 03:22 ID:8l+xYb+2

>>37
Although I definitely don't agree that love is a lie, I must say that I agree with you about marrying someone who can be a best friend. My relationships have always stemmed from someone who was a friend at first, then best friend, then girlfriend. But I can't say they were nothing more than best friends.

40 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-04-23 22:36 ID:mDxFnD0U

>>37
I'm in the same boat as >>39

All my relationships stemmed from very good friendships. And same applies to the one I'm now engaged with, was my best friend for two years before we started going out.

41 Name: 1 : 2006-04-25 03:29 ID:ITbJyHo0

>>36
I'm swedish.
I'm already seeing a doctor, I got recently a medicine called Zoloft it's anti-depressive. But it takes a while for it to properly work, said the doctor.

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42 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-08 04:23 ID:15FFt3by

I can't say that it does or doesn't exist. It depends on how much you believe in your love with another person.

43 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-05-08 20:41 ID:Heaven

Why do people reccomend medicine for these natural anxieties and neuroses? Only through discussion and introspection can we solve our most intrinisic and personal problems; pills lead to a chemical imbalance that either forces you into dependency or further warps your brain.

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