Alright, I've been told numerous times that love is indescribable. In a worldly sense, I believe love is a false ideology, mainly because of all these nymphomaniacs, rapists, etc. I may seem pessimistic, but that is what I believe. The world is so corrupted and plagued by such primitive beings who indulge in sex and such. Those who marry for money and a great sex life, not for companionship or devoted trust to ones spouse. From a pyschological perspective, these traits defines males and females, as well as from my point of view. Males: Possesive, arrogant and chauvanistic, and at times deceptive. Females: Majority of the time deceptive; greedy. Love is but a simple fragment in this world. It holds no true value, because people fail to recognize it and act on it. They just care about themselves. Their own indulgences. I'm asexual because of these very same reasons and more. Relationships, sex, and marriage ALWAYS lead to problems, and the majority of the time, divorce ensues or maybe even death. I deny my primitive "instincts" and think out of the box instead of the "normal" individual. Why bother when one can avoid these unecessary anamolies? Lust is usually dominant. Love is underminded, thrown out. It usually about sex. I have plenty of other reasons why I do not like either gender as well. Males: AIDS, STDS, immoral, societal rejection. Females: deception, STDS. I supress my hormones. I reject their lustful manipulation. And I'm not insinuating that love does not exist, only that it's presence is but a fragment in the world, and in the hearts of humanity. This is my theory. Opinions?
Actually, despite my nihilism, Odin worship, and other assorted things....
I actually do believe in love. I believe in a human love where you meet somebody you love and you just fit well together and you are able to accomplish anything together. The thing is that you try to "fall in love" or try to love somebody then you are just setting yourself up for hardship and turmoil.
god, youre the hotaru guy again arent you? so many of your posts conflict with each other. dont be such a hypocryte and pick a stance already! or type in a different style or way or something and keep your anonymity! cuz it is REALLY easy to pick you out (so many of ur posts, include, ur belief of valhalla, you saying nihilism at least one, or hotaru this hotaru that) frankly, im sorry, but its a bit annoying
Heh. Even couples who have been together for many a year eventually break up due to some "cirumstance", so I do not think it is as simple as you may imply it to be, which is most unfortunate. Human beings are too primitive to realize their corruption, and love is the same. They indulge in it, they do not care for one another. It's usually a "sex" relationship, not an actual emotional placement. Besides, marriage/relationships spawn various problems, especially if you have someone who is irrational or deceptive, or even lustful. Love is just a deceptive tool used to weave ones web around another unsuspecting individual. That's my philosophy, and I will stay true to it until true evidence of "true" love is this forsaken world is provided.
Err..I am not this person you supposedly accuse me of. I am only a human being imposing my opinions and wishing for feedback.
sage for Objectivist serial troll. Thanks for killing the thread.
I will have you know that I happen to be a very complex and complicated person. I stand by everything I say. Like the bible where the Old Testament and the New Testament are different or something.
I completely understand what you are talking about, but I do refer to the majority. I just believe what I see and know. Humanity is corrupt, and shall always remain that way. =\
I've told various people that I will never get married, have a relationship or have sex do to that risks and problems that come with them. It will always stay this way. I do not need a "companion". I need no one. I consider those who think they need someone in their life is just weak. Weak of heart, and gullible at that. It may seem like a streak of paranoia, but I will not be inflicted with STDS, or deceptive assaults.
Every being is inherently corrupt, but not deliberately. I am not deliberately corrupt. I also don't listen to people. I am my own philosophical being, and theorize on what I see, not from what I hear. To be alone, is to be strong. To supposedly have someone will allow weakness. I do not mind being alone. The only comfort I need are my friends and family, not some deceptive being to drag me down into the dark abyssal of despair and discontent. I may sound like a Goth, but I am not. I just reflect on these profound aspects of the world. Carl Gustav Jung, a psychologist and pupil of Sigmund Freud proposed that every being is comprised of feminine(anima) and masculine(animus) aspects. If a person is one aspect, then the other is split apart which is in another being. That is where "soul mates" come in. Seemingly logical, but also a bit absurd, I do not believe that every being is such a way.
shrug If you're happy with being alone, what more is there to say? I can't say with certainty that I'll always be this way, but I'm happy with being alone for now as well. I consider myself fortunate in that my parents truly love each other, and from the looks of things, the only 'circumstance' that will ever break them apart at any level will be when one of them dies. I've also seen relationships that were really just sex and convenience and that fell apart at the first sign of trouble. You might say I've seen the full spectrum of love and lust over the years, and I would say that hormone-crazed teenagers and the MTV culture that caters to them tend to skew the love vs. lust statistics by quite a bit, heh. But then, I tend to ignore that demographic for the most part anyway, as in my opinion they're not really all that important ;)
Heh. My parents do not even talk to each other anymore. We all live together, yet it's always my father's dad who always tears the marriage apart, that aside from his constant ignorance. Mine is just one re-enactment of what occuts in the typical household. Well, maybe not that violent.
I hope it works out, man. No you just have be who you are and make it happen.
What is easier?
To be alone. To have noone depend on you. To have noone connected to you with feelings/relationship. Not to depend on anyone. Not to need anyone. Not having the burden of being connected to anyone.
A pair of questions for you people (Secret Admirer and Ulrich). Don't get mad at me please.
-How old are you? (I'm 20. I think that like the Old Testament and the New Testament are different, some of your ideas can change in time)
I feel that it's easier to be alone, but a lot more fulfilling to be together with someone. But relationships are so easy to break, the more times you lose a fulfilling relationship, the harder it is to be satisfied being alone.
It somehow happened that the thing that attracts me most in girls is their good attitude to me :-) A kind, open not ugly girl is fine for the start. Every bit of bitchyness (don't have dictionary installed, but I think it's the right word) is a huge turn down for me.
You will obviously say the very same things previous individuals have said. "You're too young to understand". I'm 15(16 next year) and understand perfectly. "Experience is not necessary in this case obviously. In Junior High, I was just as every other idiotic "normal" person. One who was manipulated by some things my peers were interested in, relationships. But since I grew more mature once High School came around, I came to my senses, and used my reasoning to do what was right. Simply have nothing to do with the lustful ambitious tendencies of sex and hormones. Just renounce them all, and stay morally adept instead of my primitive, instinctive peers who grew corrupt. There are four things in this world I do not believe in. Religion, government, race and love. I have studied these various categories thoroughly, and have proposed validated conclusions and reasons. As with love, corruption inevitably ensues. I detest corruption, and avoid it, such as love, as the numerous problems associated with it. I am an adolescent philosopher with a devoted intellect and prestige. I strive to avoid the wrongs of humanity, and do the right. I analyze the actions of humanity and conclude on the best course of action. I may seem a bit pyschotic, but I am perfectly stable in my mentality. I believe that humanity and it's constant corruption would better off to be erradicated, so that this world will no longer suffer, and us to shall no longer have to suffer the corruption we have dealt ourselves. I know that you think, "oh, that's human nature. It's "natural". It's only natural because humans wish to act in such a way, a corrupt and destructive way. We have wars, we indulge in pleasure, and we do as we please. Humanity should be destroyed. Logistics are also a part of the enigmatic mind.
I meant next month for age sixteen. A typical error of mine, typos.
you kids and your silly anti-everything ways
Kid. Lmao. Such a generalization. Age means nothing in referance to intellect. Age has no relevance in this case. I've thoroughly analyzed humanity. How they act, react, consciously and unconciously. I have a perfectly logical explanation for what I believe. It's written in history. Of the present and the past.
>>23 Having been your age in the past, I can honestly tell you that you do not know as much as you think you do. No 15 year old understands humanity. No 18 year old understands humanity. No 21 year old understands humanity. Come back with a doctorate and tell us about the corruption of man.
even though I'm kind of down on society, at least I realize that things aren't THAT bad.
Well, believe what you will. I do not think I am superior to anyone, because I am corrupted just as much as the entire race since I am part of it. And yes, I plan on majoring on Philosophy, Psychology and History. A degree means nothing, just one's resume. And no, any person can understand humanity. That is when you start analyzing. I've already done so. Such is my philosophical emphasis of the world, and the corrupted individuals who inhabit it.
>>26 "I've already done so."
So you've been analyzing humanity for, I'll say on a whim 2-3 years, and you think you've got it all figured out, huh? I hate to disappoint you, but really you're just going through a phase. A phase that unfortunately some people don't grow out of :|
The planet is fine, the people are fucked.
That's all you need to know, Ulrich. That is all you need to know.
I may, but that does not matter. What matters is what I believe. An individuals opinion...is there such harm in that? Excluding those of malicious structure.
Oh my god Ulrich. you were almost cool until you started talking like a left wing communist hippie.
As nihilistic, and whatnot as I am....damn. you got problems, yo.
>My parents do not even talk to each other anymore. We all live together, yet it's always my father's dad who always tears the marriage apart, that aside from his constant ignorance.
Well that explains a lot. So because you have shitty parents everyone is magically corrupt. Age may not mean anything in regards to intellect, but it does mean everything in respect to one's worldview. You're 15, you've read some philosophy and psychology, and you think you've analyzed humanity completely. All you have to go on is your crappy homelife so you try to rationalize it. "It's not that my parents are jerks, it's that everyone's a jerk!" Misery loves company. If everything is somehow inherent evil then your situation isn't so bad, right?
Read "A Certain Chemistry" by Mil Millington.
Ok, for one, I despise ANY kind of government. I'm not communist, democratic, nationalist, republic, or fascist. I'm more anarchic. I believe that human beings should be capable enough to live without a 'leadership', some corrupt government to manipulate them and brainwash them with propaganda. Humans should be able to live in harmony with one another, but no, that is technically impossible since their primitive minds focus on things such as greed and power. Such a simple race all in itself. Governments are usually led by corrupt individuals, seeking to obtain their own desires, deluding ignoring the civilians whom they swore to uphold. In my opinion, a dictatorship is more stable than democracy, since that type of government is usually more stable. A democratic government, one led by the masses, was opposed by the three sages, Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, for they knew it would lead to corruption. And, so it has. Refer to the US for that.
>>33 "I believe that human beings should be capable enough to live without a 'leadership'"
It's useless to even think this, much less preach it to others, because it will NEVER happen. Leaders have been around since before humans. Government has been around for thousands upon thousands of years, and it will never disappear. There is nothing that can undo it. If the U.S. were to suddenly have no government or leadership, we would all be dead within months, because it's not like anyone else is going to follow suit. Government also exists to protect us. Yes, all governments become corrupt. Deal with it. Let's talk about growing wings so we can fly around too, because that is just as likely as anarchy working for even 10 seconds.
Yes, I know that. That's why it's a yes/no confrontation to me when it comes to government. But, if humanity would actually try, it would be one step closer to a Utopia, except that will never occur. As for the US, I am an american, I despise being one. Except I have no options of moving, so I'll just have to deal with it. It seems more chaotic and unstable here than any other country due to our "democratic laws". People think they can do whatever they will, because they have these freedoms that they are supposedly "rightful
>>35 You need to stop only focusing on the bad things.
Why should I do so? The negative aspects truly outwiegh to the positives. There are VERY few positive connotations.
Wow ulrich....no wonder you can't get laid.
Like I said, getting "laid", or sex leads to corruption. It's obvious. I deny the primitive tendencies of my hormones. People like you give in to them. True weakness.
I keep reminding myself to respond to this but I've had a pretty busy weekend... at any rate...
Ul: There's a lot of things that I could say here (and most of them are things others have said, albeit much too harshly considering), but I should point out that I agree with you on a lot of the things you've said. Corruption, division, laziness, lousy government, chaos, abuse of freedoms... we could argue on the severity or the percentages of it, but the fact remains that those things are here and they're pretty widespread. Also, to at least some extent, we should focus on the bad things. If we turn a blind eye to the self-destructing society and to our own deficiencies, we are practically giving our consent for them to continue.
Oh my god, Ulrich is an asshole
Oh my god, Ulrich is an increasingly transparent troll
Well...at least there is someone is understands my logic. No, the only reason people fail to understand, is because they could care less. They don't care about "corruption". They're like, "oh, that's a waste of time. Nerd!" And then they laugh at my theory like it's a joke. They trample it with no resolve. As for discussing Philosophy with with comrades, that's usually and occurance on the internet, mainly because my friends in real life do not care much about knowledge. They're the typical human beings that like to play videogames, watch anime, etc. I am to, but I believe knowledge is more important than anything else. It's all a human being truly needs. I haven't necessarily read any books either, just studied various Philosophers in a Philosophy book that I purchased a while ago. Already read it, but I'm letting my English teacher read it. Unsuprisingly, I'm not stressed out, although a bit angry at times. Sometimes I am angry for no reason. I guess I might be bipolar(maniac-depression). x.x
....lol so like Ulrich can't get laid?
More like I could care less about it. Numerous girls like me. But there was one I always liked, with a deep infatuation, since Junior High. Now, in High School, I use my logic and disdain such corruptive consistencies. You, like all of the other "normal" human beings want to get "laid". That's truly the only thing that matters in your mind. The pleasure, the satisfaction. You do not care about the actual feelings and thoughts of that individual. You just want to ravage her flesh, and take what purity she has left. Such a primitive technicality. That's you if you want to be possessive and chavaunistic. You could care less about that person anyway. Thinking, that once she has nothing left, that she is just garbage and you dispose of her by dumping her sotospeak. To be like domestic animals is sickening. Instead of surpassing the animals on this earth, we are just as they. Primitive. We have reason, but do we use it? No. We follow the id, not the ego. We follow our desires, not our hearts. We are corrupted, not pure. We are a pathetic race, not a dominant one. You people are too primitive to see the true problems. And that is how it will always be.
Ahhh... try as I might, I can't take this thread seriously...
>I haven't necessarily read any books either, just studied various Philosophers in a Philosophy book
And you are basing your observations on the world with that plus 16 years of your own personal experience and observations of one sample. Man, I was always told that if I wanted to get a Noble Prize in a science, I would need you know 20+ years of learning, countless numbers of books read. Plus to make a claim like that I would need a test thats support my hypothesis over and over again.
whoa...you are a girl? this makes things different...
I think it is best for 4-ch if we ignore Ulrich forever. Or at the very least pay him no mind on the Love & Romance board. If you don't believe in love, why the heck are you here!
....Ulrich...oh my god, do you even know what the word primitive means?
>Numerous girls like me.
I thought you were comparing other girls to yourself, not that girls LIKE you. Oops, my bad.
actually no girls like him.
Benson was cooler than this asshole is.
Ulrich is very corrupt with 15 year old "the world is corrupt" syndrome.
Please sage when you talk about Ulrich!
>>51 Yes, I constantly use that word because it applies to the majority of humanity. Primitive as in, without use of reasoning. Because if we did use logic, then we wouldn't be corrupt would we? And we wouldn't be nymphomaniacs, homosexuals, pedophiles, arrogant, egomatic, murderers and such. When I say primitive, I truly mean primitive. Like an animal, or a neanderthal.
Ulrich, can you do us the favor and don't use the term asexual and replace it with celibate. Asexual implies that you reproduce or have sex with yourself. While celibate means you abstain from it altogether, which what sounds like what you are doing.
zOMG Ulrich keeps running his mouth.
Look dude, this thread is pretty much lost. But we have learned some things.
Only five days ago I posted >>17 and now it has come to this.
You are corrupting Love & Romance, Ulrich!!
Tsk, tsk. I'm just imposing my opinion. I've nothing to argue about like you primitive beings who focus on instinct.
>sex leads to lust
no...sex leads to babies. knowledge can only travel through the human medium, no sex, no humans, no knowledge. that is the catch-22 of your philosophy. no point in arguing that like there is no point arguing with you...
On a related note, I had to quite psychology/sociology/anthropology because the opinion's of other's did not always match up with mine. That, and it was a course for the birds.
Yes, but not on the AVERAGE scale. The majority could care less about having children. It's usually about sex to impress one's peers or satisfy oneself. As I stated posts before, humanity would be better off to die and wither away into the void of nonexistence, due to their unfathomable corruption. Why should one bear a child and put the worldly burdens upon such innocence? Then, the manifestation of corruption alter such innocence into malevolence.
Ulrich what is your problem? Are you really this much of an ass or something or what? You really are not that intelligent or insightful, in fact you sound like a real ass.
Now, everyone has there moments, but really some of the stuff you spout off at the mouth about sounds like some lame reinterpretation of the ending of Evangelion or something...
I've no problem. Maybe with the arrogant civilatization that I am part of though. Oh really? You are just assuming as much. I have accumulated knowledge. One is as intelligent as one speaks to be. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not here to grovel with fictionary beliefs to get attention. I'm here to focus my opinion and get feedback. An ass...that's really comical seeing as how I'm always called a nerd and a geek by all the other idiots. You are praised by some people in this world, and scolded by others, obviously.
( ﾟдﾟ) ・・・ what is love? I dunno...
（ ＾∀＾） Love is like a thread reaching 65!
Please stop feeding Ulrich with your arguements! His appetite is insatiable!
Hey I agree with some of what Ulrich is saying and some I don't. I think people use sex as a lie for love instead when its really lust, not always but it's becoming more rampent. But sex is a beautiful thing that two people can enjoy. I also believe in love, but alot of the time people get their emotions confused. Love is real though. When people hear the word love they think of a man and a women, love is international; wether it is between different genders, races, ages, and any other factor. I also think that if your in one bad situation(like what u said about your parents, Ulrich) it should not make you think that love is not real and that sex is evil. If 2 people truly love each other, sex should not matter. But eventually it will, but that another story. Well love to all and STAY STRONG ULRICH, lol.
you remind me of myself at your age. I could go scan or transcribe my MANY MANY journals where i ranted, about how corrupt people are and whatnot and how intelligent I was and how cruel it was that the few intelligent people in the world get crushed by the corruption etc, if i really wanted to prove it . But.. but then i grew up.
>>68, be careful what you say. Growing up does not exist! Age is meaningless! Experience has nothing to do with it!
The behavior of my parents do not make me think the way I do. It is how the inhabitants of this world act. I know sex does not matter in a TRUE relationship. That is for those that desire only companionship, not intimacy.
So your saying their is such thing is a true relationship with love and companionship?
If so your contridicting your own opinion, and thats not too smart. I personally think that your begining to come around a bit in your opinions. You say that love doesnt exsist, yet you say "I know sex does not matter in a TRUE relationship. That is for those that desire only companionship, not intimacy.". Has anything in your personally life changed Ulrich? Or are you still your cold, unlove self?
I suggest you read my first post to this topic. I said that love is not nonexistent, but only a fragment in this world. "Love" is a rare case. Love does exist, but it is rare. Like I said, it's usually just used as a tool for the lustful ambitions of others. Yes, sex does not matter in a true relationship, or one that many describe as true love. In a true sense of love, which some believe, companionship, having someone to be close to, is the true form. Yet, sex is entirely involved the majority of the time. My opinion may seem a bit contradictory, since I know both the negative and positive aspects of love. Most of which being negative, obviously. When I have an opinion, it's usually a yes-no opinion, like Religion and government. Like I believe that anarchy should be enacted, human beings should be capable of leading themselves living in harmony. But primal instinct strays humanity from this path. That is why we need government for enacting the law, and disdaining chaos, yet a democracy still leads to it, as well as any other government. Ergo, the yes-no opinion. But when it comes to "love", I am on an entirely different scale. Yes, I believe that love is realistic, but it is only a fragment in this world. A simple ideology. Evidently, it usually disdains from this "true" path and hurls down the one of corruption. Lust, chauvinism, hatred, death, and despair. This is what it truly leads to. And no, my life has not changed. I still as you say, "cold", and disdainful of a so-called love. Human beings use their instinct when it comes to "love", not their reason. That's why there are all these nymphomaniacs running rampant. Those, that devolve into the most disgusting and intolerable beings. The rapists, pedophiles and sadists(sexual torture). The beings society deems unworthy of life or mercy. This devolution occurs through "lust", or through a scientific perspective, imbalanced chemicals I suppose.
get a life u stupid dweebz
the only reason u talk about love is tht u have none
Ok, I got ya point, but i think you are getting lust and love confused. Love doesn't lead to all the crap you think it does. If u had paid any attention in Psychology, you would have found that people who rape kids have a problem where they feel they can't be sexual with someone their age, so they go and rape childern. So please, get facts before u run your lips about how love sucks. And I personally agree with a**hole. Your unloved and u know it and it buggs the piss out of ya. Find a girl/guy who excepts you for you. And please dont give me this BS about not liking either sex. You either like boobs or no boobs, your choice. I personally believe that no one where you live finds u attractive. They make fun of you super bad and have hurt you. I'm not saying thats right but thats no reason for u to give up on love. Why don't u look for it, you might find it.
I generally find that people who say they aren't lonely, actually are. If they weren't, they most likely wouldn't come into situations where they would need to say so.
Not really much I can say that I haven't said already. Ul, you've made your point, but it seems that people either aren't going to understand, or aren't going to agree with you. As I've said, I agree with some of your general principles, though I disagree about the scope or extent of some of your views of the world. The fact is though, many people don't feel that way.
Actually, I am truly not lonely. I care not about anyone, and truly never will. =\ Like I said, all I need are my friends and family. I've no "void" in my soul like so many others so to speak. I'm in a situation in which I "think", not out of desperation. I just wanted opinions of the matter. Just to forward what I think and recieve feedback. I'm quite satisfied, even though some people did not provide enough information as to why they thought what they thought.
Cease with the idiocy.
durka durka durka
>You either like boobs, no boobs or both, your choice
This thread has quite an interesting topic and also some serious contributors, although frequently quite vehement in nature. Unfortunately that last quality does not seem to do the quality of this thread much good. I'd like to pose my view on love, and how I think about human relationships and the value of them.
>>85 Very accurate and precise. Precisely what I think. Except, it usually starts off as lust, rather than love anyway. True love is VERY rare. Half of relationships become divorced/seperated or are together and madness still ensues because one will not leave. Trust is usually never fortified between two people, because gossip and lies break them apart, and they two begin to conspire and become paranoid of one another. Trust is one thing in this world that can never truly come to fruition. One is actually better off trusting no one in this world, because chaos will ensue if you do. You will end up being betrayed, pilaged or death may ensue because of this "trust". As for the solitary individual, that's not always the case. Single individuals may have friends or family instead of not having a spouse. They too, can improve equally or more efficiently than those with someone. And, as I said before in previous posts, Lust is the whole, and love is the fragment. Love is usually just a tool, ergo, in the real world lust dominates it because people follow their primitive instincts, disdaining the use of their mind, or logic. Like domestic animals, the regular human being racing towards another with the true intention of self gratification and sexual indulgence. I talked to two males yesterday, and specifically told them the problems associated with such a matter. One completely understood what I was talking about, and knew how it was. The other, however, was the typical, "wtf, you're crazy". I said, "so, you will have sex with a female and leave her when you are finished? He said yes with a very positive response. That shows the primitive aspects of the typical human ratio. They don't care about others, just themselves. That's where all these whores, pedophiles, rapists and just pure nymphomaniacs of any calibur surface. And no one cares in the end. Such a pitiful existence in a pitiful world. People call me insane, but just as the philosophers of old did not sway from their beliefs, I shall not sway from mine. My "logic".
It took me a while after hearing about this site, but I got here, thank goodness for research! Ummmm...I guess what I think is that yes love is real but people confuse it with alot of other shit and then comes the lust and the babies. I don't think its as dark and full of despair as Ulrich says it is, but that just me. I personally think once Ulrich meets the right person, he'll understand how love really feels. Love isnt just a fakie mushy gushy emotion. Love is a very powerful emotion. When you can't stop thinking about a certain person, when you want to connect with them so badly, when you want to be around them and when they are you never want it to end and try to do anything to be with them. Not because wanting sex, but rather because of the most complete and peaceful feeling you have ever had. Using myself as an example, I feel all those feelings about my BF. I know Ulrich will think thats stupid, but its true. And we didn't me because of lust and sex, we've been friends since he was in 3rd and I was in 4th. We dont have sex and we really don't care about that. I'm not trying to say that we have the perfect love, I'm just saying love exsists. Well yall I g2g, research calls, I hope we've all learned something from Ulrich's thread. I bid u ado and hope u all realize that love is real and not as scarce as it seems.
Heh. That's the thing. Love "is" just a simple emotion. An emotion brought on by chemical reactions in the body. Stimulation for pleasure and bonding. Oxtocins in the body fill a person with passion and bonding of another. Sooner or later that passion and bond ends due to decrease of Oxytocin. Love is truly nothing, just a simple reaction. A primitive reaction that intices one to lust, or "love". Love doesn't last either. It corrudes just as the body does, and becomes nonexistent. Once that "feeling" and attachment fades away, couples have problems.
Well with all the scienc shit aside, love is real. Ulrich, don't get upset when I say this, but I think you have loved someone, but u got your heart broken. Thats why I think you don't believe in love along with other circumstances. This is friend to friend, bud. I wish I could help you realize this, but theres not much I can say. I'll just leave with this comment. Love finds you, no matter how strong of a loner you think you are and when you refuse love, it will continue to bug you until you realize how much of an important feeling it is. Maybe no one has ever shown you love before, but one day someone will.
According to my knowledge, emotions and the machine which is the body mutually affect each other. People smelling 'attractive' pheromones of each other will feel better. Likewise, people who worry a lot will get real headaches. That being so, the psychological side of love can be both nourished or harmed by the physiological components entering a relation.
>Oxtocins in the body fill a person with passion and bonding of another.
ok, love is not a science. It is an emotion. For that matter you could say that you leak from your tear ducts when your sad. Love is an emotion plain and true. Like secret admirer said, I know people who have been together for 53 years and they have loved each more than people would believe. They even (sadly) died together in a car crash. Love bonds people and makes them realize that life is worth living and that someone out there cares for you so much, you just might not realize it. This science of love is true, but irrelevent. So what there are hormones. There are also hormones when a woman is pregnant or when someone goes through puberty, that doesnt mean these things are not important or unreal. I think Ulrich and Demian need to realize there is someone who loves them, they just may not see it.
Dear PMS. I think we actually think the same about love. Please read posts carefully before you comment on them. It will save a lot of time in this discussion, or at least for those seriously participating in it.
I came here because a friend told me about it and asked me to come here.
>>89 Pm's, you know not what you speak of. I have never "loved" any being. I have however been infatuated once, but that was the result of my primordial instincts. No one can break my heart. I've no emotions to break. =) Love is just a bullshit ideology that is used as a form of manipulation the majority of the time. That's how it usually is.
Do you trust your friends at school? If so, your contridicting yourself and I bet their feelings would be hurt. If not then you are lying to them by calling them your friends.
I never said you could not trust someone. I was just stating that it's better not to trust anyone so that you will not be misfortunate. I've many friends, but I only trust one particular person, because I know him inside out. He is devoid of malice, and is a great friend.
Never being able to trust anyone sounds pretty damn misfortunate to me.
There are levels of trust. Never complete trust.
I trust my bank to keep my savings for me. I would't trust a bank to feed my pet when I'm on a business trip. I trust my brother to help me by lending money when I'm short, but I wouldn't trust him to keep a secret. I'm sure you guys can think about more examples.
I know, and your friend is like that. But you can't say your better off not trusting someone and trusting someone. I used to be exactly like you. Somone had ripped my heart out, broke it, and then vomited on it (lol extreme but true). I was very hurt and began to doubt everyone. I thought much like you do now about love, trust, sex, and just life in general. But things change, you can't think one thing forever. I was a cutter, a loner, and a hopless drone. But, like I said, things change and turned out someone trusted me, loved me, and wanted me to live. It may not seem like it but people are meaner than they actually are. And you can't go by the people you live around. Yes, its in other parts of the world, but people there are very very very very very very very VERY special(DUH! special). Like you said love is a part of a whole and people there are part of a whole. So just consider it.
>>102 I understand completely what you are saying, but nonetheless, I still believe how it truly is.
>>But you can't say your better off not trusting someone and trusting someone.
What is the problem with breaking your heart? its an integral part of life. Sure, it will severely hurt you, perhaps for an extended period. However, a man must have some control over this. You can see a break-up coming, and brace yourself in time. Or you may still be able to prevent betrayal altogether.
I was just using it as an example. I'm actually thrilled that that person hurt me so, because in doing so I figured out the love I wanted was right in front of my face, I just didn't know it. Heartbreaks are part of life. I'm just saying that I think Ulrich has had his heart hurt and it has scorned him. Its hardened him to what we have now. If he would realize this and that love is so scarce he would feel alot better and see that love is visa versa of what he says. Love is the whole and lust and mess like that is the piece.
Here's a fun idea. Write yourself a letter outlining all your beliefs and opinions about the world including a printed copy of this thread. Seal it up and store it somewhere you won't have to see it or ask someone to keep it for you(although maybe not the second option since you'd have to trust someone). If you survive without committing suicide until you're 25, then when you reach that age open the envelope and read the letter.
If you think the thread is so stupid, why do you keep posting?
I fear nothing of the sort. I just wish to have nothing to do with it.
My heart has NEVER been broken, because I have lost sympathy for my brethren since the 6th grade. No one has tried to love or like me, and neither I them, and vice versa. No one can crush me under their foot like so many others have been. I'm not weak of heart.
Well still, you never know. I think people have tried to like you, I even know a few. But thats, not the point. Point is that I that your disliking of all this mess stems from something deeper. I know mine did. But hey I could be wrong. Oh and Secret Admirer, go fuck yourself, bud.
Ulrich, far be it from me to doubt your grasp on the subject of love, but since you are obviously so well informed about the world, why did you ask about it in the first place?
Can it be that in reality you hoped to educate a few of us about the nature of the world? You little tyke! :) But why not just write it down for us to appreciate it in its purest form? Right now, I have to painfully extract all of your ideas from various posts, and it is quite a tough job to do. So would you pretty please condense it into a couple of neat paragraphs?
Pms, do you already know that people who post anonymously here are automatically given the name 'Secret Admirer'?
>>110 Ulrich, far be it from me to doubt your grasp on the subject of love, but since you are obviously so well informed about the world, why did you ask about it in the first place?
Feeback, more or less.
>>111 Pms, do you already know that people who post anonymously here are automatically given the name "Secret Admirer"?
Well, you must be the one I was refering to!
Aye, lust of pleasure can turn a man into something that society deems unworthy, but so can lust for life.
Reason, logic, truth, they are all so very relative. At one point in time, everyone knew the Earth was flat, they had cold logic, obvious reasons, and they knew it was the truth. Only by their own greed, did they discover what more there is to the world, and so things became as they are today.
Well we are all human, we are capable of emotions and how to use our minds instead of being entirely dependant on our insticts. Being human is not something to be ashamed of. Yes there are many evils in the world, but you can't say that there is anything better. I mean until we reach nirvana, become super humans, find Shangri La, or become robots, this is the best we have. Yes people confuse their emotions, but again, its human. And like the person who made comment 114 love will never be understood until it is explored. Thats why I think Ulrichs opinion is correct, but it is one sided. I think since he said no one has ever tried to love or like him then he doesnt fully understand love. I'm not saying its wrong, I actually think its pretty acurate; but only to the side of the downside of love.
Okay the suicide bit was out of line I apologize. I was serious about the letter writing exercise. In my first year of high school one of my teachers had the whole class write letters to themselves. I received mine in the mail sometime after graduation. It was a window into what I was back then and how much I had changed over the years.
Thanks for apologizing. I used to be suicidal, so i dont like to play about that.
Nicely put, >>114. I concurr especially with the last sentences.
Well, this is what I established about 4-5 months ago.
My opinion of the world…
>>119 corrupted the board with his merciless format.
<<120 And you've corrupted it with your constant idiocy.
That's not fair, Ulrich, because he also wrote post 114. Not only was that a good contribution to the discussion, it also added to the body of the discussion.
You can tell by looking at the ID behind the name of the poster. Be sure to apologize to the kind man who couldn't resist a harmless pun.
Exactly. The same moron who has been constantly harassing and imitating me. He may speak as a wiseman, but he acts like a fool. Big difference.
Why can't we all just get along? Sorry corny but effective ;p. Anyways I think that Ulrich has a point. I mean yeah, the bad most of the time end up on top, but I don't think the world is evil just cause of it. And your comment about superiority made me think of someone from my school. We'll call him..."John Kerry's Son". The guy loves John Kerry, worships the ground he walks on. He thinks that he is so much better than everyone else. He tel people he's better than them because he has cable and because he's so smart. I think people today are too materialistic and arrogant. Just because you can get more and do more than others doesn't mean anything. **Plus I'm getting a car, so I don't care!!!*** (;p)
>he guy loves John Kerry, worships the ground he walks on. He thinks that he is so much better than everyone else.
Chris at school, the HIGHLY fanatical political sophomore at school is precisely the same way. He indulges in John Kerry's presence for some apparant reason. >.>
Ulrich's view of the world is very simplistic and naive. While he wants to believe that he has uncovered the secrets of the world, the essence of humanity his analysis is nothing more than superficial, at most, lightly scraping the surface. His grasp of human psychology is limited and as much as he wants to appear unbiased his hatred clouds his judgement and skews his views. He walks the sage path that many has walked before
But not just him. There are so many other people like that. Now I'm not saying that I don't have something like that, everyone has their vices, but I think it you can control it you'll be good. I love chocolate, its my "indulgence". But I control(I do!! Just cos I'm plump doesnt mean anything j/k) it. I bet Ulrich has something he "indulges" in.
There is little point in mentioning that, >>128, because Ulrich doesn't really get the point of a discussionboard. Members on a discussionboard only remain interesting if they consider the ideas of others, and give feedback on that. (with more detail than just agree/disagree).
I think Ulrich was too busy masturbating to someone patting him on the head to detect the sarcasm
Please enlighten the awful sinners amongst us, who have chosen to enjoy bodily pleasures, what makes them so corrupt, compared to your indulgences.
Just give it a rest already Ulrich. The simple matter is that nobody with a clear head agrees with your wild and crazy opinion of the world.
I don't think sex is wrong if the two people are mature enough and in love enough to enjoy it. It's just become corrupt in the last 30 or 40 years. People do abuse it though and confuse(afterwards) with being in love. And people also do it freely and it becomes casual and unimportant. I think there is a big difference between intimacy and the act of sex. Inimacy is wanting to share a feeling of deep love, caring, and commitment. People now, just treat it like a passtime. Like watching tv or reading a book. When sex does not have intimacy, then sex is just an act and is meaningless. But that's just my opinion.
>>135 Actually sex has been corrupt since the Bible days, but I still know what you mean. Just wanted to catch that before a jackass flamed you for it.
What a lot of people need to learn is that healthy relationships are possible, even if they've never experienced any. ITT a 14 year old is trying to tell me the world is corrupt and love is meaningless. lol I don't care how mature a 14 year old thinks he is, he hasn't experienced "true love" and has no place in judging the reality of it. He also hasn't experienced the "real world" and has no idea whether or not it's corrupt. A 14 year old can't analyze anything, because you need an experienced, mature, cultured mind to properly analyze anything as complex as SOCIETY.
If there is anyone willing to talk about theory of love without reacting to the immature and reactive babble from Ulrich, please tell me soon. He's ruining the potential level of this thread. Otherwise, for the lack of intelligent conversation, I'm going to leave this thread.
This thread was never alive. If anyone wants to discuss the "theory of love", starting a new thread would probably be the best option
Well if all yall hate it so much, leave! I mean quit complaining and find another thread that is more "interesting", because all yall are doing is contridicting yourselfs. 'This page is dead and it was never alive' blah, blah, blah. And plus, since Ulrich is a Taurus, ya'll should know he's determined and passionate about his beliefs. So get over yourselfs!
This place is starting to feel more and more like Gaia for every post Pms makes!
Well I don't know what Gaia is. I guess I don't understand it when people talk out their ass.
>Just as in any debate, one speaks, and the other replies with feedback, whether positive or negative.
A debate is a discussion between two sides (correctly speaking) or more. At times it may take the form of interrogation, and sometimes a discussion leader may evolve. On these boards however, that leading role is decentralized among all contributors. Leading power is never complete, and is attributed by others due to attraction to previous posts. If you want your ideas respected, serious thought is key. A little respect also helps sometimes. Also, remain within the bounds of the discussion. Here, we'd like to talk about theory of love.
You can ask people who know me, I'm a very nice person, unless provoked. I came here with the intention of discussing the theory of love because someone suggested it. But I agree with you. I just think those who antagonize people make the thread become something of a battle royale of insults.
Now I agree with that. Where Ulrich lives is a little sector of the world where if you asked 1 out of 5 people on the street they wouldn't know who The Who were. So where he lives is not a good representation. I went to NYC over the last summer and it opens your eyes. The world is so much bigger than where Ulrich lives. I just think Ulrich needs to travel, see the world, talk to them for their opinions. And yes you can talk to anyone in the world via the web, but if you travel you learn so much about the world, its people, and yourself.
Exactly. You need to experience the world to know anything about it, and a ~15~ year old simply can't do that in normal circumstances. I don't care how much you "analyze" via TV or the internet, you just can't learn as much that way.
But in some ways Ulrich has a point, to a certain degree.
>I know you don't understand it, and you will never accept it as fact, but you're at an age when you feel like you suddenly understand everything. I'm sorry, but as much as you say age doesn't matter, the simple fact is that it does. You don't know anything. You're just a kid. An immature, EXTREMELY arrogant kid. When I am criticizing you because of your age, it's not because I think I'm better than you because I'm older. It's simply because it's true. You can get a license to drive soon? You must know everything! Spoilers: Johnny the Homicidal Maniac is not an accurate representation of society.
I admire your ability to say so little with so many words. So far we have established that most people are corrupt, love is corrupt because it's usually just a guise for lust, which for some reason is corrupt (not sure why) and that the world is a shithole cut*cut*cut. Have you considered a career in politics?
I think that teens can be mature for their age, but I think people on this thread are taking this too seriously. I mean people tell me on mature for my age, and I'm going to be 16 in June. Yet I still laugh when someone says 'duties' or "but I don't care if you 'do do' that." (lol those never get old! ;). But I'm just saying that teens have the ability to think deeply. It's just when, like the 154 Ulrich said, they become pompous and arrogant as hell. I like to think I'm not arrogant and pretty openminded, but hey thats opinion, so what do I know?
>>154 You're pretty pompous, actually. You also can't seem to grasp that there is more to being "immature" than spamming and joking all the time.
You ARE acting immature. It's immature to know nothing about the world and go on and on with your jargon about how you KNOW all of these things that for some reason the rest of the world can't grasp, and at the same time turn around and use the defense that you're ~only human~ if anyone criticizes you. I'm telling you. It's a FACT. There is not a single 15 year old in this entire fucking world that has a real grasp of what the world is like. I was a "young intellectual" myself, actually. The difference between you and I is that I never suddenly came to the realization that I "have an advantage" over everyone and understand the world. I knew better, and I still do.
I'm almost convinced that Pms and Ulrich are trolls. It's just so hard not to laugh at them. Maybe I've shielded myself from people like them for so long that I forgot they existed.
>>158 Could be. Whether Ulrich's a troll or not, I'm done arguing with him. He's most likely at a phase where he wouldn't even listen to a genius doctor if he said his outlook of the world is retarded. One day, when he grows up, I'm sure Ulrich will realize, "Wow, those guys on 4-ch were right. What did I do with my youth?"
Yall can all go masterbate to Hentia.
>>160 Whatever. Like I said, you won't listen to anyone whether they're right or not. Go show this thread to a psychologist and ask him which of us is the "corrupt" one.
Also, I'm looking at the definition of arrogant, and it fits you fairly well.
I have a sister who is 16 currently, and my other sister was that age two years ago. I know for a fact that they are absolutely capable of deep thought and definitely able to do significant things. However, they are not usually capable of extending such thought for long enough to consider various possible conclusions. Judging from them, their friends and of course my own experience from when I was 16, I believe that most teens that age have that problem. At that time I knew that I didn't know the truth about the world - but I thought I was pretty close.
>So far we have established that most people are corrupt, love is corrupt because it's usually just a guise for lust, which for some reason is corrupt (not sure why)
Thank You!!! 161 was a joke, don't take it personally.
And insults are hurtful. But we are not just kids. I mean, have any of you had this interesting of a conversation, on a thread. I don't think so. And yes, poking fun is awesome, ya'll should get that. It's just when you take things to far. I mean, teens or not, we are people to with opinions and ideas that want to be manifested where ever they can be. And since the internet is so easily acessible, its the one place you'll see us sporting our opinions the most. I mean what if I was to say "WHO LOVES COHEED AND CAMBRIA?!?!?!?!", no one has to answer, but my opinion is heard. And thats all that matters.
Man, I leave for a week...
Several Anonymous posters: C'mon guys, you really need to give Ulrich a break. Yeah, Ulrich has some pretty extreme views of the world. Heck, he said in his opinion that even he thinks he's crazy sometimes. I don't think he has the whole world figured out yet, but then, I doubt ANYONE has the whole world figured out, no matter what their age. And for what it's worth, I think he is pretty mature for his age; crazy ideas don't necessarily mean immaturity, and I've had to deal with immature 16-year-olds, heh.
Corruption comes from peoples personal immoral choices, plan fact. But thats not the point. Lust is a form of corruption but sex isn't. Be proud of your kid for hitting a homer in the baseball game isn't corrupt, but saying "my son doesn't suck and yours does, hahahahaha!!!" is. It's just the fact of the chocies people make. Just like on some RPG games(Hello my name is Pms and I'm addicted to RPGs.) you can choose to be evil or good. So make your choice. Be good or be evil, or be human.
Yes, and everything is black and white and there is a book telling us what is right and what is wrong. pls2getaclue (did you even read the post above yours?)
Two words: grow up. You are contradicting yourself, for you are currently acting immature accusing someone of arrogance. Don't be a hypocrite.
So what is the diffrence between doing "things that feel good" and doing "things that feel good but are deemed immoral by you"? Or are all things that feel good immoral?
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with love and romance anymore. Please permasage it or something.
No, sex is all right, IF you do not indulge in it for yourself and caring not of the other individual. That is a universal moral, disdaining lust. No, only things that coincide with corruption. Sex and drugs are good examples. Nymphomania is taking a new turn in society...
I was not refering to any book. There is a basic understood morals, like not killing people and not cheating. This has nothing to do with religion or anything of the like. So don't accuse people of needing a clue when you jump to conclusion.
Abstincence is fine if that's what you both want. Most would disagree that your claim that "sex isn't a need in a relationship."
This is to Ulrich...............
Why did you invite my girlfriend to your birthday party?
Instead of seeing logic explained again, lets rather validate the assumptions on which the conclusions are founded. We can't argue over logic if it arises from unvalidated claims because it is pointless. Rather we need assumptions, and lets get some assumptions and definitions we all or at least most of us can agree on.
It matters not what a "marriage counselor" thinks, it is the fact of the matter. You DO NOT need sex to have a stable relationship. My best friend is doing perfect without it, as have so many others. You just believe in the aspect and reassurance of it in a relationship. It truly is not necessary, only with people who desire action so to speak.
>>172 universal moral
No such thing.
Actually there are universal morals, those that every being knows is right or wrong(except those of highly immoral calibur). I mean really, if a pedophile was raping a child, would not that be corrupt? If someone rapes a relative of your's then kills them, would that not be corrupt? Yes, universal morals.
>I never said sex and drugs were corrupt,(not trying to imply anyway. It is the people who do such things that make them corrupt.
Are you saying that sex and drugs are made corrupt by the kind of people who partake in them? Or that the people who partake in them are made corrupt by doing so? Either way, that's dependent entirely on a) your definition of sex, b) your definition of drugs, and c) your definition of corrupt; all three of which can and do vary greatly from one person to another. Not exactly an objective argument, regardless of whatever your point was supposed to be.
Sex is not a primal instinct, the act of mating may be, but sex for sex is not. Drugs were used in the early days for medical use, until people began to abuse them and became addicted to them. I think ya'll are blowing this mess out of proportion. And Ulrich, when you said "Those who actually use their minds instead of instinct abstain from such things, because it may escalate into something much more than sex, something such as rape to the more extreme." People who deal without sex usually have mental instabilities also. So I think that is you go from one extreme, i.e. no sex at all forever, or the other, i.e lots of sex constantly, then your screwed. Extremes are not needed they are there to be there and thats all.
I am not irratated, but a gesture such as yours would only be appropriate if I was invited. We dont want the community to think something is going on. Happy B-day! Im not such a bad person myself.....I too think outside the box. I agree with some of your views ESPECIALLY those on C.C.. We'll have to talk sometime.....................By the way Im not possessive, just concerned.
Are you saying that sex and drugs are made corrupt by the kind of people who partake in them? Or that the people who partake in them are made corrupt by doing so?
Well its the people who partake in them. People get addicted and that makes the drugs and sex corrupt. Corruption is being immoral and making good things bad. And your morals are your own personal opinions. There is no one correct answer, its just personal opinion. No one is wrong or right, some people are just out there. But thats not the point. Point is it's your opinion, so don't down others.
lol I want to go to Ulrich's birthday party. I guess nobody thinks PAR-TAYS are corrupt!
Spike the punch, then we'll see how moral he is.
Its not so much of what the community thinks, its what I think and feel,was just a point I thought Id make clear.
"Punch" is a drink. To "spike" it is to add alcohol.
For an opinion so often stressed as being based on facts, I'm still in the dark as to what these "facts" are.
If I may go off on a tangent for a moment, Ulrich is the ideal troll for this kind of place. Here you have a forum full of the lovelorn and lonely, desperate to find that special someone. Now here's a kid who thinks he has the whole world figured out telling everyone that the world is too full of corrupt, primitive beings to hope for a loving relationship. Couple that with a dismissal of any countering opinions and a lot of arm waving with zero concrete backup, something starts to smell funny.
>>Ulrich is the ideal troll for this kind of place.
Pretty much yeah. It's just too good to be true so he's definitely a troll. His act is a little too transparent too. If he had learned to troll properly he could have actually fooled someone that isn't entirely new to the internet
So a troll is a person who slams out impossible but provoking thesis, and sticks with them ad infinitum just to get people confused? what is a troll, really?
Ulrich, how much of your post nr1 is still relevant for you after nearly 200 posts?
i'm 30 and now i know that love just is something to keep young people busy -like religion- so they don't go do crazy shit around.
Ah, I see. Sorry for the misinterpretation. I thought you were referring to violence.
Very true. A differentation of views does not mean one is right and the other is wrong, unless actual facts preside over these ideals. And just like an opinion is the source of many a corruption, hatred ensues from it because of different beliefs.
I hate it when people think teenage love is fake. Just because some people didn't fall in love when they were a teen doesnt mean other people can't. Love happens at any age, fake or not. And maybe a lot of teens are confused between love and lust, but hat isn't everyone. I love my boyfriend, probably more than people would think. But you don't have to an adult to be in love. Love is, like it was said in the book "The Alchemist", international. It's a smile, a look, a glance. So please, if anyone can feel happiness, anyone can feel love.
>I do not drink alochol, nor do I never do drugs, and I have never done either in my entire life.
Time is a corruption of space.
You are a very ignorant being, now ranting against me with pathetic jokes. You, nor any other person here, besides Pms, will never understand. You are all somewhat in intellectually and ethinically baised in your own way. Engulfed by hoards of generalizations about age, and your own personal belief sensory experience is fathomable compared to personal experience.
Jeez, now who's making sweeping generalizations and assumptions about others. 9_9
The jolly javelin will leave this board now. Demian won't be here either (we're the same)
Thank you all who helped in the discussion and for all your nice posts (there really were some nice posts) and good luck to you all. May you all find true and lasting love in your life.
it's obvious that my opinions will spawn the same ignorance and features that you all have bestowed upon my theory. The same illogical ones.
Lets not be rash, yall. I mean quit taking peoples names. If Ulrich has been using Ulrich all this time, leave it alone. Yall can have my name if you want, its just my name plus my BF's, so its all yall. Quit being dicks. And lets not be judgemental, its not right. Your making yourself look ignorant and so are the rest of you. Lets get back to the topic, because all the posts now (except for a few) are retarded. If your going to be stupid, leave.
It's a pointless endeavor. They are too primitive to listen to reason. I spoke my opinions and gave feedback to their's, so, in turn, they retaliate by acting immature and childish to irritate me and supposedly make me leave like some child. It's bad when you contradict yourself on a consistent basis. And you will all probably reply to this topic with hatred as well, bah.
I believe knowledge is more important than anything else. It's all a human being truly needs. I haven't necessarily read any books either, just studied various Philosophers in a Philosophy book that I purchased a while ago. Already read it, but I'm letting my English teacher read it. Unsuprisingly, I'm not stressed out, although a bit angry at times. Sometimes I am angry for no reason. I guess I might be bipolar
was it 'philosophy for dummies' perchance? It's good to educate your english teacher. Most likely it is the first time he ever hears about Descartes.
I took Psychology class this year, and I discussed with the group about my opinions of "love". And they did not denounce that opinion. They thought it had logical relevance, and they respected what I thought, instead of ravaging it and tearing it apart like you idiots. No matter how much I continue, all of you're stubborn minds will never understand. Human beings would rather go through instinct than logic, which leads them in a corner of immoral behavior. Pitiful.
I dont think knowledge isnt the most important thing in the world. On the contrary, I think love is. Love helps you understand the world and understand yourself. If people love, you would learn that there is such thing as fate and hope and that someone can and could be eternally happy. Maybe I'm too gung-ho on the fact that love is real, but hey sue me. Love is real, so get off this forum and find someone to love!
The first thing they teach you in psychology class is "don't outright denounce people's ideas", because when you're a psychologist there's every chance the person ranting inanely at you is a psycho.
Ulrich admitting he's dumb? I never thought I'd see that!
You have a certain knack for latching onto a single phrase in a post, misinterpreting that one phrase as summary of the entire post, disregarding the remainder of the post (and thus its actual point), and finally replying in some manner that barely relates to the phrase you originally latched onto. It's like conversing with half-deaf parrot.
>>221 "I haven't denounced anyone. I haven't said, "YOU'RE WRONG! YOU'RE DUMB!" I respect EVERYONE's opinion, but that does not mean I will agree with you, just as you of I."
Hello everyone. I'm sorry to say this will be my last post on this thread, unless we get some order here. I know ya'll don't care, but maybe it wil be a wake-up call for you to go get a life. This thread started off very well. Good posts and stuff, but now its a bunch of bullshit. We all have flaws, I do. So lets not gang up on one another. Ya'll stop picking on Ulrich, and Ulrich, stop giving them a reason to. The internet was made to connect the world together to get peoples opinions not to berate everyone about how stupid they are for having a different way of thinking. Now people, yes I'm stupid for thinking ya'll would care. But I don't care if you don't care. I'm just saying, this was a very interesting thread and people have ruined it. So everyone, I must leave you. I hope that you all find happiness. Love will one day find you and so will happiness. And to Ulrich I leave you these words. Tell these people to go fuck off and masterbate to Henti.
Well, Pms, I've pretty much give up on this thread anyway. It's not worth my time if people are constantly harassing me in my attempts for feedback.
>>228 Idiot. She is a friend of mine. Posing is for the simple-minded that have no lives.
>>229 Baised opinions, hatred, idiocy and fluent controversy with uncompromising results.
Perfect description of yourself!
I think we can finally let this thread die and restrain ourselves from taking this assenine arguement further. For the good of /love/!
come to the netherlands, you moron, or anywhere else but the US for that matter. what lowlife area are you from anyway?
>>229 is completely rite.
ok sorry. let's not generalize the US as one single lowlife area. I actually know plenty of nice americans ;)
My opinion of the world…
The world is a dark wasteland. One engulfed by deception and despair. Paranoia is constant and the turmoil of the land is infinite. Human beings are inexplicitly weak. They indulge themselves is the pleasures of the world with their deceptively complacent life styles.
Thanks for sageing at least, but please, go away!
I am happy today. I was happy last week. Most of my life I haven't felt bad. So I must be living at a sunny spot in that dark dark wasteland.
In my whole life, I don't think I have really been deceived more than 10 times. Despair and paranoia can be deceived to go elsewhere.
>>238 you should think just like Ulrich because he understands the world unlike your ignorant self.
p.s. sage please ):
>>1: With those preconceptions, you will never find love
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Aristotle, Plato and Socrates were all men with opinions, which not everyone agrees with. You placing them on a pedestal shows how polarized and subjective your "logic" is
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that was posted months ago, and the discussion has since moved on. You bumping the thread to reply to it shows how you didn't bother reading the thread, and thus how irrelevant your "comment" is.
thesis: there is no theory of love, just as there is no theory of cow or theory of daffodil. There can only be a definition of love. However there is room for theories on successfuly pursuing, growing and keeping love.
thesis: >>245 is trying to sound smart without being smart.
conclusion: he fails
thesis: if a thread has gone to shit, have the courtesy to not bump it if you absolutely must add your witty retort. (enter "sage" in the link field)
so threads cannot be revived?
no no no no no I never want to see this thread again!
what is sage?
I've been wondering what this sage thingy is too.
>>247 explained it perfectly. lern2read, and stop bumping this thread.
what is bumb? sorry im new to this internet thing
Bump is when a thread is sent to the top after someone replies. Putting "sage" in the Link field allows you to reply without sending the thread to the top.
HEs rIte GIZe I thinK Ur AlL DuM BeCAZe U CnaT SaHGeY, WaHt NoObZ
well, everyone reflects his personality and complex... if you dont have that desire for love and stuffs like that, then why you live???
just ask yourself.. you have a period of time to live, and no one is emortal.... then the love that you will grant or you will be granted will live forever...