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Transsexuals and dating (23)


1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 06:09 ID:LgtO0PZY

Alright, I'm a male to female transsexual. Mostly attracted to men (with occasional but rare exceptions.) Now since I started transition I haven't dated anyone, and I see around lots of things calling transsexual women men. So I wanted to take an informal poll. What is your opinion in general of transsexuals and sex changes? Would you consider dating one? What would you consider your sexual orientation to be?

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2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 08:20 ID:tSxirXet

Honestly, I think that trans-sexual people have a mental disorder. Most of them say that it's "being trapped in a body of the wrong gender," but when in reality, they are just people who do not sympathize with other people in their "born gender," which, of course, is perfectly fine. Society, however has set boundaries for genders, and lead people to believe that if they are not manly, they are not men, or vice versa.

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3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 12:00 ID:HjBXCGGm

i wouldn't originally consider dating one, but beliving in true love i wouldn't stop becomming their friends and seeing if friendship grows to something more, which i doubt will be fruitful but i do believe in leaving the door open just in case.

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 13:04 ID:Heaven

>Most of them say that it's "being trapped in a body of the wrong gender,"

ITT we've spoken to most transsexuals?

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 13:18 ID:txswLP5h

>>2
Stongly agree.

6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 13:36 ID:cfGXIQtm

I just wish they would stop listing themselves on dating sites as women.

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8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-12 19:46 ID:LgtO0PZY

>>2

>Honestly, I think that trans-sexual people have a mental disorder.
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9 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-14 04:03 ID:2CpegzMI

That is a very interesting question . I have alreadly formed my opinion long before though.

See, I am fully against Transexuals. I don't like it, I think it should be banned and be illegal.

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10 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-14 05:13 ID:pQPVB4JK

To me, public crossdressing is about as disturbing as public nudity, or hideous cosplaying. I saw a "girl" with a blocky face and stubble at my school and I felt thoroughly weirded out. I think homosexuality is great, and taking horomones to assume the gender you "need" is your choice, but I don't want someone who is clearly not female try to pass as one and act as if we are supposed to consider them normal rather than an undercover spy who should be rooted out.

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11 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-14 05:16 ID:pQPVB4JK

Also, I've known only one MTF intersexual. I would definitely date her (she got an operation in China and I am totally comfortable calling her female). But I'd have to judge others on a case-by-case basis.

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13 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-15 11:52 ID:Heaven

>What is your opinion in general of transsexuals and sex changes?

If it makes them happier then sure, they should change. Doesn't harm others, in my opinion.

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14 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-06-30 09:34 ID:A+qz7F08

The vast majority of transsexuals stick to keeping their parts and staying their born gender the majority of the time, in my perspective. The only ones that go all the way are usually the gay ones, I think, because they have less to lose. Us, for example, mtf transgendered people, that are gynophilic, but still have the mental transgender disorder, we stay in the closet, more or less, because we can't win. Women think it's weird, or funny, and or a threat. There are a billion horror stories of divorce we've heard a million times before. Lesbians don't want a surprise when you go home with them. Some are hostile and see us a the straight man in disguise trying to oppress them. I think this creates the illusion that most transgender are gay, in addition to the surplus of drag queens, gay men who think it's productive to rehash gay stereotypes (such as the effeminate flamboyant gay man) for fun. Hell those drag queens are what people think transgender people are. I have the nagging feeling that transgender populations along sexual orientation lines lies pretty equal to that of regular gender people. A lot of transgenderism and transsexuality is colored by stereotypes and misconceptions from the straight and gay community. As for SRS, if a person really wants to do it, good luck with them, but hormones and scalpels won't fix everything.

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15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-02 20:11 ID:LgtO0PZY

>Us, for example, mtf transgendered people, that are gynophilic, but still have the mental transgender disorder, we stay in the closet, more or less, because we can't win.

You can't win because you think like that, I know several transsexual lesbians who are just fine. Honestly it's really not easier for a mtf transsexual who likes men to find a date.

16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-03 02:50 ID:O3FOhv0j

>>15

You're right, but personally, I do admit that being transgender is a relatively small issue for me personally. It's other social issues, mainly trust, for me, that's a bigger stumbling block to me. Virtually all my friends, and a limited number of my family knows (two, really).

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17 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-03 23:38 ID:VYj0lL7G

>>9
>>10
You people are clearly disturbed by transsexuals. Good. I hope you spend many moments of every day deeply uncomfortable and creeped out by your revolting, small-minded prejudice. You deserve it. I feel the same way about bigots.

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18 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-03 23:40 ID:VYj0lL7G

Oh, and since it looks like I've misread >>10, I apologize. I was reading pretty fast and I meant no offense. But for >>9 my comments stand.

19 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-04 21:18 ID:Heaven

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20 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-05 12:59 ID:JZ9lyFGS

as a straight male, i would consider dating a MTF if i found her attractive. considering how rare it is for a transexual to actually end up looking the slightest bit feminine, it probably won't happen. but i would consider it, even though i do think that they're most likely going to have a host of other psychological baggage to deal with...

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21 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-05 20:19 ID:VYj0lL7G

>>20

This seems pretty unlikely, to me, but there are all kinds of sexualities and genders out there. Most MTF women I've met have been straight (attracted to straight men), although I did know one in college who was dating a bi woman both before and after her transition. A few pre-op/non-op transsexuals I've talked to have expressed discomfort with the fact that they seem to attract a lot of bisexual, or bi-ish, male tranny fetishists, who are specifically interested in their pre-op genitalia (which grosses a lot of true gender dysphorics out).

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22 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-06 15:05 ID:LgtO0PZY

>>20

>however, i was under the impression that a majority of MTFs post-transition go on to have relationships with lesbian women, any info on that?
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23 Name: Secret Admirer : 2007-07-16 14:05 ID:Z+eMbbHO

My opinion in regards to dating a transsexual is that it would be very hard, especially if you wanted to have a family. Bypassing all the other complex issues surrounding this topic having a family, the process of having a pregnancy etc .. is very important to me. I don't think there is anything wrong with being transsexual but it must be even hard trying to find someone who is willing to accept that part of you. In an ideal world gender wouldn't matter because love is love but things aren't so ...