Every male(hetero male) wants to meet girls. Get dates. Get laid.
That's nice. That's fine. But I think you need to get a grasp of the big picture first.
"Hmm....It's starting to look like clothes, money, and everything else doesn't matter."
"Hey Hotaru, what are good pick up lines?"
Wtf is this shit.
Okay, so men should have standards, but women should take whatever piece of crap that comes their way? Sorry, this reeks of sexism. Fuck, I wouldn't want to date a girl that had no standards at all.
Any of your good advice is blinded by the fact that you're a moron. And who the fuck are you to be giving me advice, anyway?
Some More things to consider:
Women like a guy who can be witty/funny.
If the women "WANT" a man, they should put some effort into it for a change instead of expecting the man to do the work.
>>8 I agree. Hate that gender role that guys should have to do everything and women should not have to do much. I know that most would be willing to or are the ones that do it, but most girls should also try rather than wait around for something to happen. Everyone should make the step forward if they are willing and should have to wait on anyone else to do it.
Truth be told, I don't mind making an effort. But at the same time I find girls who sit back and expect everything to be done for them, relatively unattractive compared to girls who know what they want and make an effort to get it.
Nice post OP, I agree with all those you posted.
I'm planning to become a single father, gotta put up an arrangement with someone to reproduce but i'm not gonna get married.
I agree with >>5 . This seems really sexist.
"Gender Roles" really shouldn't be rules to live by in this day and age. OP must be the type of guy who wants to work in a coal mine all day, come home, beat his Trophy-Wife for not having dinner ready, drink gin in front of the (Black and white) television with a dog at his feet while his wife cleans and his son does schoolwork on the kitchen table...
Very true, but it'd take every person who's ever even so much as heard of Anonymous to bring about that kind of change. That, or Oprah. Maybe Tyra....
I must agree w/ OP; It has taken me several relationships to realize this, and to some people who are unexperienced as such, it may appear cynical and biased, but unfortunately it's very blunt and factual, regardless of the fact that it may offend people;
Oh Gee Willikers....
Look, some of you who say "Hotaru, you're too cynical, blah blah blah, anti woman, blah blah blah, gender line larger blah blah blah"
>If the women "WANT" a man, they should put some effort into it for a change instead of expecting the man to do the work.
>Girls are a hobby of mine. Does that offend you? Does that sound shitty? GOOD, because it means you've understood.
>I like female attention, female company, and yes I even like the feel of a girl pressed against me and her skin. I like to hear her talk, and I like to hear her ideas, fears, aspirations, and the fruits of her education.
>>16 here, and I still agree with OP...
Many people still have a rose-colored view, and that's allright to have, but while we do search for that "perfect person" (whether or not such a thing exists), it's important not to be easily misled, which is what the OP is trying to say, and what I myself have repeatedly fallen victim to..
It's work if you're an introvert. Interacting with any people is work.
Nigger, just because you can produce sperm, does in no way mean you should keep using it.
Mutations in sperm are increasingly common when a man begins to age. Not only does that mean there is less chance of getting a girl pregnant, but when you do, more chance of it being horribly deformed in some way. In addition to that, have you ever heard of erectile dysfunction? Another disorder increasingly prevalent with age. Men, too, are on a sort of 'clock' if they don't want to have fucked-up offspring.
>>23 It's not their fault if they have anxiety issues, buddy. You try having a panic attack anytime someone glances in your direction, and see how much you feel like going out and being around people.
Look, I'm not going to comment any more about it.
It's in their heads the same way AIDS is in your blood.
Who the hell said they wanted help? I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm introverted, I'm confident with the way I am. I can't say that even for some extroverts I know, who try and cover up their real self with layers of bullshit.
Then what's the bitch? If you're happy with it, why complain?
Allright kids settle down settle down (flicks lights on and off)
OP has a point but let me put some bullshit aside right away...
Nice PUA shtick. What women look for in men is security. It's human to want to own each other; it's a guy thing to want sex; it's a girl thing to want stability. You don't need to be a jackass to get what you want (a loving relationship with sex). Just be yourself, and hold yourself to a high standard.
> Then what's the bitch? If you're happy with it, why complain?
it's not "pua shtick" it's "the truth".
Would any women on 4-ch like to comment on this distinction?
You raise some interesting points.
I will agree, women are extremely concerned about their looks, and guys are one-two-out the door.
I would. I'm a woman and what he said is pretty juvenile.
Listen, >>30, what you suggest may work while you're in your late teens, early twenties. Many girls around that age are don't have any idea what to do with themselves - much less what to look for in a prospective partner. The 'alpha-male' thing, as you describe it, is dominant - but only superficially so. You give off an oder of being strong, coarse, and unattainable; like you said, you float around in their thoughts because of it. Most insecure young women are attracted to that, but believe me, the attraction wears off pretty quickly.
Look...It's me, Hotaru Maniac once more.
First of all, >>30 seems like a real jerk. Sex IS NOT the most important thing in a real relationship. I'm not diminishing its importance but...I don't spend time with a girl if all I wanted to do was have sex with her.
The guy that gives all that great real world advice that works?
To op, if he's still here, I have some questions for you, and my secondary e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org.
I'd write them in this thread, but I don't feel like having to scroll through 20+ comments of pointless whining when I check on it.
Of course there are far bigger problems than merely approaching women. Like in the first place finding a woman who you actually like enough to warrant trying to get. One who isn't like all the other fashion victims of the city you live in, and cares about people other than themselves.
>>44 is about the most self-important person I've ever seen on this forum, and that's something pretty fucking special on 4-ch seeing as every user is anonymous and thus prone to pretending to be a BIG MAN.
Um...yeah. I think it's kind of important to be self-important to some degree.
I have a life already, honestly. I have a few different friendship groups, and I was even married for a few years, etc, etc. It's not like I dislike life, I was merely saying that the women in this city (at least 99% of them anyway) are the scum of the planet, and the goal of talking to women starts to look pretty pointless once you get sick of their shit.
Another Thing I'd Like to add:
You know, that's what I don't like.
> Virgin can mean a lot of things. You can fuck every girl in the world and still be a virgin you know....
Actually, considering all the dicks I've been with, I think I'd like a nice guy now.
What makes you so sure you know what you want?
I put "nice guys" in like quotations. Because "nice guys" aren't that nice.
I'm in agreement. I'm one of the nicest guys in my high school, but... alas, because the other so-called "nice guys" in my school are creeps.... it's kinda killed my reputation. When I do something nice for a girl, I see it in their eyes. They're touched (even if slightly) but they're afraid I'll continue to touch them.... facepalm
First of all, if you agree, you don't need to sage.
Second of all, I hate to say it but high school really is no place to pick up chicks.