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Tactical Maneuvering (21)

1 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-05-29 12:46 ID:w38SZeXv

Before I begin, I would like to point out that I am not interested in advice from an ethical perspective, but instead, a tactical one. I want you to think purely in Machiavellian terms here.

How does go about ruining a relationship? How does one plant the seeds of doubt, and does one avoid detection? Feel free post your experiences, theories, or even a situation where you want to apply such maneuvering.

2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-05-30 03:24 ID:5wNorgQc


Try to be extremely paranoid and untrusting, subtly insinuiating that the other in the relationship is cheating or thinking about cheating. Or smoother them with kindness.

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-05-30 05:15 ID:3ZB2fQS5

Are you talking about getting out of a relationship you're in, or are you trying to sabotage a relationship between two other people?

4 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-05-31 00:59 ID:+IqtviB8

Anonymous bets OP wanted the later.

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-05-31 03:34 ID:Heaven

I believe you know that "nice guys finish last". How they never get ladies. Well, during a discussion (you'll need to do that on a day they had a slight altercation and she's already worked up a little), talk about him. Describe how he acts and reframe his behaviour as being the one of a kind, but insecure "nice guy". Use anything she gives you. "Oh, he does that, but that's because he loves you too much and doesn't know how to handle this, so he's being afraid that you might leave him because you mean everything to him and he can't leave without you". Add emphasis on the insecure issues, and how you are not. You'll seem to be understanding and praising him, when in fact you are subconsciously reducing his "mating value".

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6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-05-31 08:02 ID:DsnvMTNQ

This is a sneaking mission.

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-22 09:49 ID:w38SZeXv

The first thing you need to do is establish a point of distrust at which the person in question will be more willing to confide in you than in their partner. If a couple is willing to talk to each other amiably about anything, there is no way to plant the seeds of doubt without suspicion or detection. Generally, this point can be found in traits one sees in the other that are unfavorable like insecurity, arrogance, etc. Couples don't like to talk about what they dislike about each other when they are together for obvious reasons-- fear, convenience, etc. However, if a couple has gotten to the point of intimacy where even these topics are acceptable, and are even found humorous, one can manufacture a point of distrust through the art of rumor making.

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8 Name: Lonely-chan : 2008-06-22 18:36 ID:hb9Mif8N

I don't care whether you want advice from an ethical perspective or not.

  1. Do you really want to be with someone so weak-minded that their love could be questioned by a jealous third party?
  2. Whoever this guy is, he had to win her over and probably work hard to get to where they are, why try to come between that?
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9 Name: Lonely-chan : 2008-06-22 18:41 ID:hb9Mif8N

Oh, and nice guys do get girls. Where are you from, Bizarro World?

10 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-22 18:50 ID:0uD1ef7c

A modern-day Iago, huh? I am not who I am.

11 Name: Anonette : 2008-06-22 20:58 ID:5wNorgQc


They just can't keep them.

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12 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-23 08:08 ID:w38SZeXv

I will put it bluntly: you are incredibly naive. The realization that "nice guys" (put in quotation because such people are generally more weak-minded than genuinely virtuous) never get their choice in women is probably the first step most people take in understanding how to court women. Those unable to use the tools of power, whether their held back by ethical qualms or pure weakness, are obvious not going to have any, especially in the case of love.

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13 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-25 00:46 ID:/XO+nqQh


Science proves you wrong.

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14 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-25 02:24 ID:M7eb7HMn

Nice article...

15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-25 02:38 ID:+p4yDULc

>>13 It's true, i have always been a nice guy but some horrible experiences with girls made me an ugly person (on the inside). I threat girls like shit and seriously they like it. I fuck them and don't call or whatever and they follow you like dogs.

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16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-25 03:07 ID:0uD1ef7c

> Also i'm still virgin when it comes to love making.

Does not compute.

17 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-25 22:42 ID:iAE8N0zu

> Also i'm still virgin when it comes to love making.

Wait, what?

18 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-25 23:23 ID:+p4yDULc

>>16>>17 i meant Sex in a REAL relationship, someone i actually love.

19 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-26 05:45 ID:YedHuVRU


I was thinking the same.

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20 Name: Iago!Zg2Mqgq5Xw : 2008-06-26 11:07 ID:w38SZeXv

I am in love with something and want to either take it for myself or not have it be taken at all-- nothing more and nothing less. I'm sure the bluntness of such a desire could be covered up with pretensions like "I am saving her" or "I love her more", but one shouldn't need to put up a facade in an anonymous image board. Quite frankly, morality to me is only useful insofar as it fits a narrative, and therefore, I am only want advice from a tactical perspective.

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21 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-06-26 16:32 ID:M7eb7HMn

I think I can understand where you stand, Iago, being in the same kind of situation, except for the fact that I repress this desire to break everything someone might attempt to build with her. In my opinion (and it's not only about morality, you know), even if I think I am the best fit for her, I feel like I am not allowed to take desicions for her. I might warn her or advice her (directly or indirectly) but will not attempt to wreak havoc.

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