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23 year old guy seeing 15 year old girl, mother opposed (59)

1 Name: Kindress : 2008-07-28 12:18 ID:g4d4hnwf

Hey there. I'm a guy quite a bit over twenty. I'm am currently together with a 15 year old girl. We're not simply dating, but very serious about each other. She has shown me a level of maturity that cannot be rivaled by even college-going women, and I know that with the proper influences and caring, she will become even better and more intelligent as time goes on.

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2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 14:08 ID:vgbHH7KR

If she's Mexican, she's probably more concerned about why you haven't offered her any money for her kid yet.

It's not the Driver's License she's looking for...

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 15:35 ID:K+G6/TSl

you have to admit
its a bit weird

4 Name: Kindress : 2008-07-28 17:08 ID:g4d4hnwf

Since I just was banned from another place that I posted this, I'd like to state: This is a real post, I'm not trolling, and if there is legal advice that can be given about her rights at ages 15, 16, and 17, I would like to see it very much.

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 17:50 ID:FMamdPRs

i'm going to give you a warning since i have been in this same situation before (except i was 3 years younger).
a sexual relationship with a 15 year old is almost sure to turn her into a slut. shes exposed to her highschool dating scene all day before seeing you, except now shes not afraid of sex.

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6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 17:52 ID:eQTlFzIe

lol, another pathetic adult who goes for children because they're easy to manipulate and have lower standards.

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 18:02 ID:zOFRv+CR

I used to live in Arizona since last year and 18 is the golden age for mostly everything.

Also if your planning to take her away from that house being that she is underage you must have the consent of her parents to do so unless of course she is emancipated.

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8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 18:36 ID:Heaven

GTFO, asshole. It's scum like you that sicken me for exploiting and manipulating young girls.

9 Name: Kindress : 2008-07-28 19:16 ID:g4d4hnwf


Thanks for the advice. Through my research, I realize that I really don't have any options at this point except to wait and talk things over with her mother directly.

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10 Name: Chris Hansen!69eMR/CQ7U!!XjSKCHZu : 2008-07-28 20:51 ID:kN8omswj

I'm Chris Hansen, Why don't you have a seat over there?

11 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-28 22:47 ID:r6SCUaR9

>I know that with the proper influences and caring, she will become even better and more intelligent as time goes on.


12 Name: Chris Hansen!69eMR/CQ7U!!XjSKCHZu : 2008-07-29 13:24 ID:RBdtrZp0

No, no, no, no, no.
I wanna have a talk with you.

13 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-30 05:44 ID:DICgp9D0

Dude, are you thinking straight? Of course her mother doesn't let her go out whenever she wants or have a boy hanging out till late. SHE'S FIFTEEN. My Mom had the same rules for me when I was that age too. Stop kidding yourself and end this.

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14 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-31 09:32 ID:t4cP8l3R

Due to the fact that a lot of pedophiles justify their going out with girls of such a young age with the same old line of "Oh they're mature enough", I'll go ahead and say; stop it. She's not mature enough, normal people will not look at it the way you do, stop, go away.

15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-07-31 13:31 ID:Heaven

Do what you think is right, but keep in mind that if you have to ask, it is probably wrong.

16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 01:08 ID:Heaven


17 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 01:15 ID:Et8FV49E

Despite the fact that you love her, a teenager knows absolutely nothing of love. She cannot truely know what love is or what it feels like, or what she must sacrifice for it, so basically you are taking advantage of her infatuation.

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18 Name: Kindress : 2008-08-01 03:35 ID:g4d4hnwf

OP here.

It's pretty depressing to me that people are so negative about this issue. I'm sure you all are basing your recommendations / revulsions on previous 15 year olds and 20 year olds who might come to like 15 year olds that you've known. I won't bother convincing anyone that the two of us are different since I'm sure that's what everyone says, regardless of the truth of the situation.

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19 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 06:59 ID:eQTlFzIe

John? I've sent a link to the thread to the cops. Thanks for posting this evidence.

20 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 07:45 ID:Heaven

You make a thread asking for advice, we give you advice, but don't tell you exactly what you want to hear, so you get pissed? Fuck off.

21 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 10:44 ID:Heaven

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

22 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 18:46 ID:lB5fbXc0


Oh, you want legal advice.
Well, in that case... you're going to jail.

23 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-01 20:45 ID:LuHf4a2L

sorry bout all these assholes on here dude

best of luck to you 2

24 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-02 05:42 ID:ipWys6VJ

she's mexican. Use her as cheap labor.

Either way, you're going to jail.

25 Name: bingo : 2008-08-09 19:36 ID:O2xdWTUj

I have a friend who is now 24 who is dating a 17 year old. They have been dating since before she turned 16 and are waiting until she's 18 before she's having sex. It took me six months to really accept it, and only when I realized they were perfect for each other and he was willing to WAIT for her and NOT CHEAT on her.

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26 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-11 01:52 ID:XE9qGYmh

Hey, I'm 18 here and I've been with my boyfriend since I was 16. He is 27. I told him from the very beginning that we could not have sex, as it would be a class C felony in my state, until I was 18. He accepted this (better than I did, in fact >.<) He has taken a LOT of shit for dating me. But you know what? He has been more respectful of me than anyone close to my age I've ever met. I cannot stand guys my age. It is entirely possible that the OP is NOT a sexual predator.

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27 Name: That 27-y-old : 2008-08-11 03:32 ID:XE9qGYmh

Why is my VC "Heff"? Ah well.

I'm >>26 's boyfriend, she pointed the thread out to me. Anyway, here's some questions to ask yourself. I know you want to think this is "serious". I've wanted to think that of every relationship I've ever had, save one very miserable one. That this is the first one for both you and her makes the possibility that you're just infatuated or obsessed with someone/thing you "can't have" a dangerous one.

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28 Name: That 27-y-old : 2008-08-11 03:32 ID:XE9qGYmh


>>It seems like you are interested in her because you cannot handle women your own age.
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29 Name: Kindress : 2008-08-11 05:03 ID:g4d4hnwf


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30 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-12 03:14 ID:3GYvHsek

This is a risky situation. If you have a bad break up, all she has to do is say you had sex and you'll face a judge.

31 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-13 08:19 ID:CqHvn7W8

I don't even need to read your story, OP, to say the following:

1) you're an idiot

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32 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-13 22:30 ID:xjbe8uun


not wanting to disappoint you, but girls of 15-16 years old mostly do this just to get the attention they are not getting from there mother or father when her parents become distant or strict since she is "becoming a women" and is "able to have sexual desires" and stuff

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33 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-14 01:17 ID:ipWys6VJ

You think everyone is trying to "attack" you. But, in reality these are just normal opinions from normal people. You are responding to the one that has the "advice" that you WANT to hear.

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34 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-14 02:57 ID:Heaven

So what's going on in this thread? Is OP hiding away yet?

35 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-17 00:28 ID:lQ1cW4+8

>>33 He will only go to jail if he has sex with her.


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36 Name: ボクス : 2008-08-20 06:59 ID:ozmuBi4C

Just some advice, back the fuck off.

You are going to hurt her, her family, her reputation, and basically fuck up the majority of the first half of her life.

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37 Name: ClayLay : 2008-08-20 20:37 ID:edFtn1O+

i dont think it matters if shes your age or not.
what matters is just being careful with her. since you feel strongly about her, keep doing what youre doing but like 27 said, just cover yourself. meet her mother halfway.

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38 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-21 18:22 ID:jwEPKMFL

what makes me laugh is that if this were a romance novel or some manga all of you would be cheering on the main characters. but now thats IRL you're all spazzing?

39 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-21 21:48 ID:Heaven

I think you should learn to separate real life from fiction before it's too late.

40 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-23 17:06 ID:KFqgz4Ga

nah Novels about child molesting don't turn me on to this idea more then the actual event itself.

no matter what you're talking about 8 years is a little much when you are talking about a guy who should be just getting out of college is dating a girl who is just getting out of middle school. If the mother cuts off your penis, I'd probably defend her first. not saying you're a skeez. but that's a skeezy as fuck thing to do.

41 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-24 01:08 ID:Rqy6baTO

Okay, the 4-ch BBS gives you this idea: "greece captcha"

Pack your stuff, ask her to do the same, hop on a ship to greece, marry there in a scenic church on a hillside by the Mediterranean, and live happily forever after!

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42 Name: bingo : 2008-08-24 04:32 ID:w73/wAfC

maybe you should try talking to the mother and tell the mother how much you love the daughter.

43 Name: megaorc : 2008-08-25 23:55 ID:v4R4QfD+

did you fuck her yet?

44 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-29 23:00 ID:1G9oIQN2

I had a very similar if albeit different situation to yours so I know a bit about the legal standing of this. At 23 years old I began dating a girl who was 15, strange, the ages are the same. Just a side note, we never once had sexual relations. Anyway, she was a girl I met in college, she graduated from highschool at 14 and already worked away from home and owned her own car. She lied about her age for the job and her parents simply allowed her to buy the car in their name so they already encouraged her to act more mature.

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45 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-29 23:06 ID:1G9oIQN2

I want to add, when did it become socially unacceptable to marry a girl under 18? I would guess until WWII if a man set his mind to the task of marrying a 14 year old even, he could. My own parents are 25 years apart (Yes, you heard me, now go reread the shit they put me through and wonder) so I know marriages can work with an age difference.

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46 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-30 03:43 ID:lQ1cW4+8

>>45 I think part of it is that although we are capable of producing offspring, we often aren't as mature. Also, many people equate getting married with losing many other opportunities (fewer married women continue to attend school, for example) and starting a family; girls aren't raised to be ready to start family that young anymore. Women used to be married off so young partly because lifespans used to be shorter, and unlike men, women are only fertile for a limited amount of time. Besides, starting a family young wasn't as difficult in the past, because the farther back you go the more extended families were, and the more that raising children was a community effort, undertaken by grandparents, aunts, uncles, older siblings, and neighbors, as well as the parents.

47 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-30 04:19 ID:1G9oIQN2

Perhaps but I don't think that's really a good thing, I don't want to derail the thread but perhaps it's already been done. We put more emphasis on individual careers and private successes and leave the family behind which is the greatest source of happiness in our lives. People are less happy and every effort to gain wealth and power doesn't bring us any happiness.

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48 Name: Garrison : 2008-08-31 17:56 ID:ipWys6VJ

What is wrong with a 23 year old dating a 15 year old. I do the same thing all the time, 13 year olds? bring them on. 12 year olds? bring them on. the younger they are the better they feel with my cock. OP i'm with you all the way, lets go to the day care center and pick us up some hot babes, i'll bring the candy and you bring the van. we will rock with our cocks out and later we can go to chuck e cheeses and rumble in the balls with the little boys.

49 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-08-31 22:17 ID:DLgpN7Nx


>I guess we'll find out when we're all dead and able to learn from God which way of life is best for men and women to have lived but by then it's rather late.
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50 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-09-02 07:58 ID:9Ssct4lu

My grandparents had an eight year age difference when they got married. They had five children, lived a good life, and are still married to this day.

To everyone yelling at the op to abandon the bit of happiness that he and his girl have managed to find, FUCK YOU. If the op was just interested in sex with the girl, he'd just have sex with the girl, secretly, and be done with it. If the op was just interested in sex with a minor, he'd find one whose parents just didn't care.

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51 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-09-05 12:33 ID:m8ooPAUc

holy crap where is chris hansen when you need him? freaking perv. go date someone your own age. fucking weirdo. dont defend this son of a bitch.

52 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-09-05 23:10 ID:3IIc0Bg2

This is generally the problem faced with such a relationship. Hardly anyone asks or considers the main reasons people are together. They look at the age and go fucking insane because they can't understand why other than it HAS to be because the girl/guy is young, thus more attractive. Fucking stupid.

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53 Name: bingo : 2008-09-06 01:15 ID:oeA7kWKP

OK, does anyone consider why there is an age limit? Because minors are often immature and have bad judgement because they are young and lack experience. That does not mean all minors are immature, that does not mean all adults are mature and have good judgement, but overall the younger you are the more likely you will be immature and unable to make good decisions. Thus the reason why minors are given extra protection by the law.

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54 Name: Kindress : 2008-09-06 03:49 ID:3IIc0Bg2

OP here.


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55 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-09-06 13:54 ID:sR2poOZj


Pfft. What about those of us who still lack experience at 25? Who protects us?

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56 Name: bingo : 2008-09-06 15:38 ID:oeA7kWKP

OP, good for you. If you can handle waiting then simply keep waiting. I wonder why you keep posting if your conscious is so clear.
#55: Are you arguing that children should not be protected by law? Should we give a credit card to a fifteen year old? Should we let twelve year olds drive? Or let a fourteen year old marry and have children? Children are still maturing and growing and are much less capable of good judgement.

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57 Name: Kindress : 2008-09-06 21:57 ID:3IIc0Bg2


Well, I made the thread and it's still getting responses, so it still interests me. Negative and narrow-minded comments gives me lulz, and positive comments give me a little extra boost of hope. Sometimes it's fun to see how brash and hateful people are on the internet towards you when they have no clue what they're talking about.

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58 Name: Secret Admirer : 2008-09-07 00:56 ID:jwEPKMFL


perhaps it's a sign of some sort

59 Name: urekun : 2008-09-10 08:52 ID:ipWys6VJ

If I speak of this, he would already know who I am. But like having known OP for a long time and lived with him for a while. He's really not a sexual guy, you can put a nude woman in front of him and he would be playing a game rather than fucking her. With the whole situation of the 15 and 23 year old and reading the negative comments and positive comments, I really do not believe that people are sincerely against his relationship with a 15 year old. I really believe those people are just jealous and unable to find love themselves. Anyways, I met this girl, she reminded me of a friend of mine and she's very socially withdrawn from society. So, it's nice that she's able to escape from that "cage"

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