>>39 Sorry to break it to you babe, but Dir en Grey IS a visual band. Thats how they got started, that's what they are. Yes, toned down some, however they are still considered visual.

And BTW >>36 and >>37 Dir en Grey is awesome live. I've seen them twice, once at the Family Values Tour in Dallas, and then at my fave little venue called The Palladium Ballroom (also in Dallas).

Also, I'm female, I like visual kei, j-rock, and the likes. However I'm not a fangirl. I find them.......for lack of better words... blithering idiots. I mean come ONNN!!! I had two of them standing next to me screaming at Kyo the whole time, "I want to have your babies!!!!" and something to the effect of "Kaoru and Die are sexy when they fuck!" It was ridiculous. I understand being a fan, but most fangirls aren't even fans. They just get all hot and bothered over a few hot guys. They are hot, I have to admit... and REALLY cool guys. But I'm not screaming at them like a dog in heat. I say we take all fangirls and put them in a room together for a week... maybe they'll... I don't know... kill eachother over a poster of Mana or something.