Internet Culture @4-ch

Internet Culture @4-ch

Internet Culture, sub-cultures, the people who use the internet and everything else relating to is up for discussing. Let's try to talk about more than just imageboard websites, as there is more to the internet than just them.
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基本的には英語の使用を強く希望します。ただ日本語板の場合は日本語か英語。
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1: GET THE INTERNET OUT OF THE REAL WORLD (83) 2: When is a community "dead" (12) 3: What's your least favorite website (22) 4: Protocols (7) 5: IPv6 (23) 6: 4chan BBS (29) 7: Next Big Internet Thing (74) 8: Websites marking mp4's as gifs (4) 9: yikes (9) 10: IRC: why did it fail? (96) 11: sadpanda (5) 12: Image board on here is broken (2) 13: Why 2ch is so cool; we need equivalent! (39) 14: AnimeUSA 2004 4chan Panel (4) 15: Good places on the internet. (84) 16: [NEXT BIG THING] Altboards? [INNOVATIONS IN INSULTING PEOPLE ONLINE] (9) 17: How to start a great new lively textboard bbs? (19) 18: Other similar boards? (6) 19: Decreasing usability on the web (24) 20: The intetrnet is yours (31) 21: Social Network of your choice. (60) 22: Bienvenido a Internet BBS with Google Translate (3) 23: Tell me about the Scene (14) 24: Japanese Net Culture (36) 25: The *chans and people there (7) 26: The Creation of Memes (17) 27: What is what is this I don't even I don't even (21) 28: Newfags, Tripfags, and Imageboard Conformity (22) 29: late 2000s non-web internet communies (3) 30: Eternal September (15) 31: End of cool japan (18) 32: 2chan isn't very good... (20) 33: Virtual Reality (but almost real) (28) 34: Anyone willing to part with a Nevada-tan hoodie? (24) 35: Soviet Websites [.su] (4) 36: What OS are you using? (160) 37: Yukkuri shite itte ne! (18) 38: Paradigm shift ιδέα (4) 39: [Internet News]2ch got Renamed?[Textboards][2ch] (5) 40: [RIP] Dead text/imageboards [IN MEMORIAM] (41)

GET THE INTERNET OUT OF THE REAL WORLD (83)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-12-30 05:10 ID:kZAlYyKU

ITT discussion of people who use memes, jokes, or lingo in the real world. If I hear one more person say "lawl" in real life I think I am going to die

74 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-22 04:32 ID:XF3mdVci

12 years later. still relevant

75 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-26 00:42 ID:wVLP3q0I

>>67
Great book, thanks for recommending it. It's more relevant than ever, and the issue is only going to get worse as we all go headfirst into it all.

76 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-26 04:21 ID:V/jfrZWO

Man, this thread makes me miss when the internet was simpler, when there weren't as many dark forests that everyone retreated into and it all seemed more fun.

77 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-30 19:52 ID:rk8Ne12F

>>76
The problem with the modern net is that people see it as a legitimate platform. Back in the day people posted whatever they wanted without any fear or ambitions because they knew that nobody in the real world would ever see it. Nowadays, the internet and the real world are joined at the hip. Posting that you want to kill all the jews is no longer just you venting in the virtual world, it's a very real political statement.

78 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-07-23 18:55 ID:314L29yK

>>77
It's only a srs bsns political statement because idiots take the internet seriously. We all need to find a way to re-frontier the World Wide Web or we're all going to see nothing but deranged posts and endless bad content.

79 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-06 12:23 ID:b3Y7OeBe

>>74
I posted in this thread twelve years ago.

Reflecting on the way things have gone since then, I am left wondering where to begin. The culture is so different now that I don't think anyone at all minds anymore when someone uses memespeak in public other than thinking them to be immature.

As for me... didn't do it then, don't do it now.

80 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-11 23:48 ID:Heaven

No John, internet is the real world

81 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-15 16:23 ID:oiEYoupa

This thread is far more relevant as ever tbh

82 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-18 15:39 ID:2FejbMqo

it was foretold

83 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-12-09 17:23 ID:BKXRyVWA

I miss the days when the worst of it was kids making troll faces at each other and saying "lawl".

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When is a community "dead" (12)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-02-10 17:51 ID:vzXIJ3MU

I've always had trouble defineing the difference between a website that is slow like 4-ch or tgchan, and a website that is dead like 99chan or 7chan

I feel like the unity of the community has a lot to do with it. 4-ch has a "core" group of dedicated users as well as a style of posting that is specific to itself. The threads all feel like they're a part of something greater; as if they were all connected in some way

7chan, whilst it gets more traffic, has no core userbase that consistently returns to it. All of the threads exist in a vacuum, and there's no specific flavor to the content

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-09 05:32 ID:nyqJjpeF

>>2
I don't think these are reasonable critiques of OP. 7chan, while more active than a site like sekai yon chan is absolutely "dead". What OP identified, I believe, could be better stated as complexity and engagement. It is not entirely requisite that an insular group of posters exist, but it is necessary that their exists some sort of mutual understanding. In a space where everyone is coming and going and there's nothing guiding the discussion the discourse never progresses beyond shallow formalities.

A community, I propose, is dead when new users cannot be added or make substantive contributions.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-28 05:06 ID:7Ly+5IyA

>>3
more like when the old users push newcomers away
then blame the new people rather than admit that they're too deeply ingrained in their old ways and it's off-putting to people who aren't in on all the numerous dumb in-jokes and bizarre expectations

why is this site dying?'' mixed with fuck off, newfag''

adapt or die

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-28 05:06 ID:7Ly+5IyA

I meant: "why is this site dying?" mixed with "fuck off, newfag"

I keep forgetting that this particular textboard has fucked up markup

I'm still thinking in terms of world4ch/tinychan

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-28 05:50 ID:Heaven

>>5
You can set no markup

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8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-30 00:41 ID:DAXaXL8M

This is why chatting like Telegram, IRC, and Discord is so much more popular. It is easier to tell if it is dead or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoonEdit

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-06 12:11 ID:1jB3Z7b4

>>1
I think you had a pretty good handle on a definition in your OP.

The separation occurs between a [dead community] and a [dead website]. They are very different things. You can have an incredibly active website that has less of a community than Facebook. Or a very slow website like 4-ch that has a cohesive flavor and is used by pretty much the same people, or type of people, for decades. The relationships dividing them are simple mathematics.

10 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-20 09:54 ID:LynJYcKk

11 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-22 23:53 ID:q1sSrJsn

>>10
Both the article and commentary are a good read and I find many of the insights to be very true. Many have a subconscious awareness of those mechanics, but having it put into so many words might help people grasping at explanations.

Old fashioned, brainy websites are now such a rarity that it's joy to find one sometimes.

12 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-12-05 17:54 ID:7NLIu4Bu

>>10
I've always liked this essay bar one line

>At best you can charge them admission or a subscription fee, but they’ll inevitably argue that this is wrong because capitalism is evil, and also because they forgot their wallet.

The experience of the modern web convinces me that monetizing things is often worse for communities than the lack of funding that comes from not doing so. People unconsciously move towards creating what the market demands, rather than what they want to see for its own sake. Monetization creates a bigger incentive for the sociopaths to close in and grab the cash.

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What's your least favorite website (22)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-04-04 02:49 ID:yAJllslA

What site do you hate the most? What site looks the worst, doesn't work, or just has fallen in quality over the years?

13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-08-24 04:37 ID:scalV+Pi

Reddit
Google (and all the shit it owns
Twitter
Snapchat
Facebook
Instagram
4chan

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-01 06:46 ID:jy5+itMS

>>13
What are 4chan alternatives

15 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-03 13:30 ID:PvZC3VjA

>>12
It only locks sort-by-popular and maybe some other sorting options, right? Annoying if you just want to find a few nice pics, but not really an issue if you like to dive deep into the search results. I haven't had many issues with the tagging either, I would say it's more consistent and elaborate than some other communities like DA. Plus, I can't think of another picture-sharing site that makes it so easy to download original files; almost every other site nowadays uses all kinds of tricks to try and prevent you for some reason (why is that?). As far as I'm concerned there's never been a popular art sharing site as good as pixiv.

My only real problem with pixiv is that the recent UI update made it much harder to view an individual artist's tags. I miss when there was a specific page with a whole list of them.

16 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-22 22:43 ID:SEIn+768

17 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-30 00:02 ID:3PReO04D

I hate when I'm searching for images and a result leads me to pintrest. No idea why people use that shit, it seems so annoying to browse.

18 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-30 00:03 ID:3PReO04D

Also Quora sucks because they sometimes want you to log in just to answers. It's another one I'll try to avoid if possible; I'd take a reddit thread over quora.

19 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-30 00:05 ID:3PReO04D

>>18
*just to see answers

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-21 20:58 ID:GPo/CuGt

>>13
Reddit's good at being what it was originally designed for; a content aggregator. It's shit for discussion but it's great if you're trying to find interesting things from elsewhere on the web.

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-30 06:07 ID:GcyFuKle

Personally speaking, Wikia/FANDOM is fucking awful. Bad formatting, ads that intrude your browsing, and Wikis that usually have superior equivalents elsewhere.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-12-05 12:01 ID:JRtbCsgp

YouTube, Twitter and I guess Facebook

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Protocols (7)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-28 16:21 ID:YSfCOy3n

Are there any protocols worth using nowadays besides HTTP, HTTPS, BitTorrent and IRC?
Is anything still happening with NNTP or Gopher? Is FTP used by anyone at all?

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-29 01:57 ID:jZoZcBRo

FTP gets used all the time for remote filesystem access. You'll probably never see it in action though if you don't have a job that necessitates it.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-01 19:38 ID:EAt1Xanl

Gopher is having a sort of renaissance during the last few years, the new content being largely nerdy, neo-luddite blogs lamenting the state of the commercial websites. There is also a new protocol called Gemini, created by the same 'new gopher people'. NNTP and FTP go on with their slow deaths.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-05 15:52 ID:Heaven

The only people who use Gopher are pedophiles and Shii.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-20 04:07 ID:64B0OxoI

Telnet is the best protocol.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-27 21:41 ID:Heaven

The reason a lot of the older protocols are dying is simply because HTTP/HTTPS covers most use cases well enough that it's not worth bothering with anything else.

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-30 06:00 ID:Fyh2vGgz

what about zeronet?

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IPv6 (23)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-15 22:19 ID:FGrBs96A

When do you think people will start to switch en masse?
If you don't think they ever will, what will happen instead? A slow trickle? Some other Internet protocol?
For bonus points, rationalize your prediction and include references to support it.

I'm saying January 2008. I just pulled that out of my ass.

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-30 08:09 ID:vLfkzbN9

Imminent death of the internet predicted!

Film at 11.

15 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-01 16:32 ID:SbovvGJE

nklh

16 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-04 15:01 ID:3PMvPaF5

>>13
No matter if the transition is smooth or not, I hope that providers will start enabling at least multicast. That would be wonderful for p2p.

Me, I'm ready to go full ipv6 when my ISP does (Well, some really old boxes aside).

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18 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-19 02:13 ID:QkHBcAWb

As of December 2005, IPv6 accounts for a tiny percentage of the live addresses in the publicly-accessible Internet, which is still dominated by IPv4. The adoption of IPv6 has been slowed by the introduction of classless inter-domain routing (CIDR) and network address translation (NAT), each of which has partially alleviated the impact of address space exhaustion. Estimates as to when the pool of available IPv4 addresses will be exhausted vary — in 2003, Paul Wilson (director of APNIC) stated that, based on then-current rates of deployment, the available space would last until 2023,[3] while in September 2005 a report by Cisco Systems that the pool of available addresses would be exhausted in as little as 4–5 years.[4] As of November 2006, a regularly updated report projected that the IANA pool of unallocated addresses would be exhausted in May 2011, with the various Regional Internet Registries using up their allocations from IANA in August 2012.[5] This report also argues that, if assigned but unused addresses were reclaimed and used to meet continuing demand, allocation of IPv4 addresses could continue until 2024. The U.S. Government has specified that the network backbones of all federal agencies must deploy IPv6 by 2008.[6] Meanwhile China is planning to get a head start implementing IPv6 with their 5 year plan for the China Next Generation Internet.

With the notable exceptions of stateless autoconfiguration, more flexible addressing and Secure Neighbor Discovery (SEND), many of the features of IPv6 have been ported to IPv4 in a more or less elegant manner. Thus IPv6 deployment is primarily driven by address space exhaustion.

19 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-19 02:16 ID:QkHBcAWb

IPv6 multicast works in exactly the same way that IPv4 multicast works. There are different sizes of padding and address fields in packet headers, but it's roughly the same.

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-25 23:22 ID:PZKvPsbI

>>19
Well, yeah. But ISPs don't implement ipv4 multicast. And I hope that when they'll upgrade their equipment eventually, they'll also consider doing multicast, to take some work off their pipes by creating the possibility to make p2p more effective.

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-05-07 03:12 ID:FGrBs96A

IPv6 seems to keep having security problems due to bad design. Type 0 route headers, for example. That shouldn't have even happened.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-05-12 19:13 ID:Heaven

Vista Vista Vista.

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-21 05:51 ID:dJY71OHk

ワロタ

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4chan BBS (29)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2012-09-01 14:02 ID:VgzL48LD

Seems like some guy on 4chan's /g/ made an old school BBS, as in, telnet board. It's focused on /g/ and it shows, but it's still a nice romp down the memory lane.
Telnet to gopher.su at port 1234, sysop is usually present in chatroom 18.

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21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-06-23 01:25 ID:WepV1+uK

Well I finally tried this telnet BBS today but it's not working. "telnet gopher.su 1234" shows the login banner and asks for a name, but it doesn't let me hit Enter (and actually trying to type digits also doesn't work).

I don't have any kind of weird environment, just the default OpenBSD xterm and ksh. Also tried at the console (vt200) but the same exact thing happens.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-07-07 18:52 ID:Heaven

>>23
I can't really help with your problem, but

> don't have any kind of weird environment
> OpenBSD

lol

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-07-08 19:29 ID:WepV1+uK

But OpenBSD (and NetBSD) are about as close to POSIX as you can get!
Granted, not many people use it on their PC, but it's not "weird" as far as a Unix environment is concerned.

24 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-07-18 16:58 ID:Heaven

>>23
At this point, anything that isn't GNU/Linux or FreeBSD is "weird".

25 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-17 14:43 ID:fNRa/D/7

first_love_ha_12_step_d4@yahoo.co.jp

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27 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-30 00:22 ID:ouHorbId

28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-17 18:21 ID:+RHfFba0

hello

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-20 03:29 ID:Heaven

bye

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Next Big Internet Thing (74)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-01-29 03:51 ID:YO+RcM1H

In 2002 Something Awful was the place to be. Next came YTMND, and from 2003-2006 4-chan was the greatest thing ever. So what do you think is next?

It's unlikely, but if 4-ch were to suddenly explode in popularity I wouldn't be too surprised.

65 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-03-18 08:50 ID:Y0hU5cTa

I was playing uplink the other and then i found out it has an IRC client in it. I think that's gonna be big

66 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-05-26 02:39 ID:ZqhUWTlT

For my circle it's telegram, but the circle is kinda bubbled up for my tastes. I mean you don't have that sense of exploration you had.

67 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-26 14:25 ID:2+4hrk96

>>66
I think that's the problem of the contemporary internet, people circle the wagons and retreat into places they think they can express themselves. That's why I'm here at least lol

68 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-30 03:28 ID:JIR8veAw

I don't think there will be another good communications platform for a long time. The world is shrinking every day and everyone knows everything. The internet has run its course as a medium, and we'll probably be very old or dead by the time the next big thing becomes a practical reality. Sucks...

69 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-03 16:09 ID:3VRj8uAX

we need Another Medium

70 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-21 15:43 ID:RQRXdRsP

>>68
I think there's plenty of great communication platforms today. From a purely objective standpoint modern social media and chat platforms are way better for communication than sites like this one.

I think your problem, and indeed the problem of most people here, is that you've fallen victim to the generational gap. The world you understand is shrinking rapidly as sites you once cherished either die or change to the point where they're no longer recognizable, and a new generation with different norms and values begins to outnumber yours.

Things change with time. The world you knew isn't coming back, and the new generation doesn't want it back. I've met zoomers who've called old geocities sites eyesores and have no idea how to even use the likes of IRC, let alone the desire to do so

The reality of the situation is that things change with time. You can either accept it and move on with your life, or stay here, wallowing in your misery.

71 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-25 13:45 ID:28EImDxD

>>70
What kind of communication though? The nu-internet is great for dank cringe memes and terrible for any kind of serious discussion--and that's by design. reddit and twitter were not meant to be used for discussion, unlike forums which were specifically made for that purpose. Imageboards work ok as long as there isn't too much traffic. But reddit and twitter is where all the "serious discussion" is supposed to be happening.

72 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-25 22:17 ID:0tmC/dd0

Usenet was 'made for serious discussion' yet in retrospective, it was also full of angry nerd flamewars and stupid 90s jokes in place of memes.
I'm not sure the shortcomings of discussion on the Net are stronly tied with technology used.

73 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-27 11:26 ID:28EImDxD

twitter posts are limited to very few characters, so that already prohibits serious discussion. It's also transient in nature, not meant for drawn out discussions that could last for days, weeks, months or years. It's meant for announcements and "here's something I bought today" type of messages. Parsing twitter discussion threads is also difficult.

reddit threads are transient as well. A thread typically has a lifespan of 24 hours or less, maybe a few days on a slower sub, and in very active threads only the users who get in on the ground floor are likely to get their comment seen. Unless they "hijack the top comment for visibility," as they often have to do. If they make the mistake of saying something the collective disagrees with, their comment is collapsed and banished to the bottom. Even the visibility of the thread itself is dependent on people's votes. And like twitter threads, it's hard to parse reddit threads because of all the nesting, collapsing and moving comments (moving in the sense that when they are voted up and down their position on the page also shifts). You don't even get notifications for anything except direct replies to what you wrote.

reddit also by its nature encourages constant reposting and rehashing, and this in conjunction with voting conditions people to automatically accept and adopt popular views. Repetition + social proof = it must be correct.

Post too long. Click to view the whole post or the thread page.

74 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-24 00:48 ID:Heaven

>>73
Reddit works well when used for its intended purpose; being a content aggregator. Things are split off into different boards so you can find subjects you like, and then people post links to things within that subject. Votes and karma are perfect when you're looking for recommendations, not so much for discussion.

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Websites marking mp4's as gifs (4)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-07-06 22:16 ID:tf9oKRFh

Why is it such common trend for websites to supply a collection of "gifs" that are actually just silent videos on repeat? Shit like tenor, giphy's gifv format, among other things. Why do they bother? All it does it make the user more inconvenienced when finding what they want. Why not just say what it is?
Whenever I'm looking for something now I instinctively ignore sites like gfycat because they've only given out pseudo-gifs for so long. It's annoying.

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-07-07 09:22 ID:zGdFLI77

GIF compression is horrible and so is the quality (mainly due to the 256 color limitation.)

But if you prefer downloading 10mb of data to watch a video that looks like an PlayStation game FMV from 1995, good for you.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-07-18 23:43 ID:hMdEs8gy

>>2
aPNG is a thing but they probably stick with the mp4s for more browser compatibility

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-21 15:59 ID:u5/V9sI8

Gifs take up more space and provide inferior results. It's an obsolete format with tons of baggage from when they were created.

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yikes (9)

1 Name: hi : 2019-02-19 04:03 ID:/vDXU0YF

this place is ooold

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-22 23:06 ID:Heaven

No, you're just too young.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-05-26 02:39 ID:TENKljV0

This is a good place.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-10 00:39 ID:Heaven

no it's not

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-12 09:30 ID:k1VuehoF

This is the best of places.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-06 10:34 ID:ucBxGdJw

One of the few places that feels familiar.

Practically everything else is alien.

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-20 09:56 ID:E7Pnre+V

This is a place.

8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-20 22:43 ID:h86KCcwy

good place

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-21 02:28 ID:1rJy7n2E

the good place

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IRC: why did it fail? (96)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-04-06 01:14 ID:6ppXr5qs

It's widely banned for its tendency to be a DDoS lightningrod, and only slightly less infamous for its impenetrable cliques of time-wasting losers. Was IRC just in the wrong place at the wrong time, or is the protocol responsible for its own failure? And how could we do better?

Discuss!

87 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-05-30 04:54 ID:7MljuVQr

>>86
It's not.

88 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-05-30 13:16 ID:fEJUKcNu

>>85
it is a horrible clique.

89 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-06-30 04:55 ID:Heaven

>>88
I was going to say, if that's what "live IRC" looks like, I want no part of it.

90 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-09-17 22:40 ID:Heaven

Remember when people complained about IRC instead of Discord?

sips monster

91 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-04 00:54 ID:kyNhT+mO

>>90

>sips monster

Will you be my ana buddy?

92 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-10 03:50 ID:SPr6mqpz

IRC failed because nobody remembers how to read anymore. Books are dead too.
I am going to see if IRC works over i2p now.

93 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-03-06 23:36 ID:LiTfwJi7

IRC let lives, IRC always lives.

94 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-03-14 23:39 ID:6WCTbVUs

>>92

Books ain't dead. ebooks may be digital but they still are books.

95 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-08-19 06:40 ID:HcRIxCr8

A major part of is it that the original IRC protocol doesn't do well in a world where most connections are ephemeral (smartphones, laptops). No one wants to run a persistent bouncer session just to view past messages. Other lesser things are that the original protocol doesn't handle rich media formats gracefully, so things such as images require nonstandard extensions.

There's also a concerted efforts by companies to favor their own walled-garden platforms over open interconnects (slack used to supprot irc but no longer, google used to support xmpp/gchat interconnect but no longer) so development on irc is practically frozen as no one's going to bother fleshing out and implementing the ircv3 standard.

The closest thing to a modern irc is the matrix protocol, but last time I tried it was really janky compared to irc. Plus development on that is spearheaded almost entirely by one company and I'm not sure there are even any alternate server implementations.

96 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-07 16:53 ID:/PcUNUqE

deltachat but for IRC when.

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