Does anyone else feel alienated by the modern web?
The rate at which sites like Reddit and Tumblr have supplanted traditional forums, at which Twitter has grown and the fashion in which Facebook still exists as a de-facto standard feels incredibly disorienting to me as someone who hasn't used a pseudonym in years or real name outside of online purchases. Anonymous imageboards and textboards are still around, so I have some grounding - but even then a lot of the discussion (at least on imageboards) is strongly linked to things happening elsewhere on the web and there's a definite culture shift on imageboards as a result of that.
As someone with an interest in net culture (or at least historical net culture in light of this post) it feels like things have rapidly been swamped and I now understand very little of the culture of the modern web. This isn't helped by the fact that it's such a fluid thing, making it hard to give specific years that can be identified and classified. 2009 felt more natural than 2011, which felt more natural than 2014, which felt more natural than 2015 or early 16, and so on indefinitely.
It's perhaps stretching the word culture, as there's a feeling of disorientation far beyond culture shift, but it seems the closest to an accurate term.
I think what you're looking for is IRC.
The best thing I can recommend are obscure image/textboards and IRC like >>8 said.
Even then, it's full of plebs.
I also still lurk Usenet newsgroups because since they've fallen into obscurity the eternal September seems to have ended, and the only users are the ones who have been around since the beginning.
No not really. I don't like using 4chan for much outside of porn boards anymore because it's gotten so awful on the larger boards, but that's something that has been said since forever.
I don't mind large websites like reddit, tumblr, etc because they often have new queues or something similar and it's fun to dig through all the stuff that gets submitted. And they're convenient for seeing things you like quickly.
As for solutions I am not sure lurking dead chans and other places would bring much enjoyment. I think it's better to learn how to adapt to new things, while ignoring the stupid community parts.
Mostly in agreement.
It's better to try and live whilst still living than to hide. I'm glad places like this still exist but they will never be enough, even in multiplicity, to ever really fill the void.
> 2009 felt more natural than 2011, which felt more natural than 2014, which felt more natural than 2015 or early 16, and so on indefinitely.
I can definitely get behind this sentiment. Everything feels so incredibly unnatural and unreal now - the fake outrage over every non-issue, the insane amount of profiteering off of victimhood, the layers of snark and irony on top of every opinion, the short attention span of internet users, the constant clickbait at every turn, the narcissism, the rush to be offended... They've become so bothersome to deal with that I can't participate in mainstream, web 2.0 sites anymore, not even YouTube. Everywhere you turn, everything's homogenized. There is hardly any uniqueness to be found anymore and thank god chan culture is still here (kinda) or I'd have no real reason to keep using the internet.
I want things to return to sanity again.
Web 2.0, connecting mobile devices to the Internet, Motherfuckerberg's CuckBook-all those things are of the devil. That's why I spend lot's of time on the archive.org Wayback Machine, looking at lovingly crafted pages created by people with real passion back in the day. It's amazing to dig through the thousands of old anime pages you can find by following links from the archived Anipike-each one unique, quirky, and like a little treasure to be discovered by the intrepid digital Indiana Jones.
This old Web was far preferable to the cookie cutter template blogs, tumblrs, and social media we have now...it had heart.
I love sturf like that. Would you like to share some fool archived olf sites?
for some reason i just remembered britney spears teaches laser physics.. used to link people that as a joke. And bonsai kittens
i felt this perspective when the shift went from bbs'es, irc, or talk/email on unix boxes over to things moving into the browser. there's something unique and special about the anyonymous nature of text boards, though. they bring with them some level of garbage but if you sift them long enough, you walk away with an experience that just doesn't exist in the "modern" web where your identity is also your currency.
I barely use the internet anymore. It's ridden with kids from a certain board about politiks. The rest... i just don't fit in. Imageboards are my last hope. And IRC.
Anyway, along the path this thread is taking, I had an idea for imageboard stuff. I've noticed that while many of the different features between imageboard/textboard technologies are server-side, they all ship their own frontend layout. This is hardly ever questioned, and some (like Futaba) let you customize what you see to various degrees.
But traditionally, software has always had a clean distinction between the front and the back; the backend usually provides a sort of API and a standarized layout which then a client program manages. IRC is a good example of this.
I am thinking about making such a textboard. The clients could browse from, say Emacs, or an Ncurses client. Or the browser, through different options (a greasemonkey script, an regular frontend hosted in the user's pc, accesible through file:/// on their browser, or some client hosted independently).
Anyone think this is a good idea?
I would like to create a great new BBS which gets a lot of posts every day, and everyone loves to visit it.
Thanks for you.
second. I like this too.
the easiest way to get "a lot of posts every day" is to bribe people with porn, drugs, or cash.
Hey bud, want some free drugs?
Just come post on my free new bbs...!
Hey bud, want some free dubs?
Just come post on my free new bbs...!
Make one for your friends to have fun on and then watch as they invite their friends and you will have a busy textboard full of fun.
I'm planning on starting a textboard. Does anyone know if it's possible to have multiple boards on a single install of Kareha? If so, how would I go about setting up multiple boards?
How to succeed with a textboard:
Heres my idea for a textboard: no spam, no illegal, no banning, full free speech, everyone is friendpy and nice, brick wall background pattern, no names or tripcodes,many boarda for each different topic but not too many.. maybe usere can create own?
What is the appropriate way to react in these conditions?
Post nazi anime girls
Its the summer, what did you expect to happen? Go back in two months, by then things should have settled down as the summerfags assimilate.
Spam the place to hell with goatse. That's what I usually do.
Does anyone know of any good internet communities that they would be willing to share? Kind of like how 4chan was good before.
Also post general interesting places on the net.
I know I did but it seems like the rest of 8/jp/ didn't really move..
That's why I'm advertizing it in a place like this. I suggest you do that too but be very careful about whom you ask to come.
don't trust this forum.
the nazi admin just flipped out and banned everyone for no reason. absolute rulecuck.
I'm pretty sure using the word "cuck" automatically disqualifies you from calling anyone but you a nazi.
He's the bureaucratic fuck behind SA.
I've been spending more time on Samachan lately. It's got a fiun vibe and I enjoy the anime discussion.
Using the word "cuck" unironically should be a bannable offence.
Not a bad site. It's like 4chan's /a/ if you removed the terrible greentexting and memes. I'll check it out occasionally.
It's a shame there's no definitive date for the coming of the Smartphone age.
Eternal September mk2.
CARA MENGOBATI PENYAKIT RADANG SELAPUT OTAK
ijin saya share
This is a great litmus test of a retard. Anyone who holds stock in "Eternal September" is a dribbler who was probably born in said month.
I know this is like oldfag roleplay mecca for types like you but there is nothing interesting about this subject.
What an incredibly presumptuous post. I hope you're proud of yourself.
I guess the idea is interesting insofar as how a close-knit brotherhood experienced the mass serialization of its community. To me it seems kind of elitist. They lamented the collapse of their ivory tower; now every Joe Sixpack with a computer room and a floppy drive could speak their minds for six hundred free minutes, too.
I'm just about finished with the book "Where Wizards Stay Up Late". It's a biopic about the people who created ARPAnet and addresses some of the conflicts that you're talking about. I think you'd rather enjoy it.
I very much look forwardto reading that, early net culture is alwys fun and its usually microcosmic of things happening today. Cheersp
Im gae homomomomo fager. Nigger sjw 8
Post in ubuntu 9.04.
Slackware~ Are are, the best OS~
Download the .iso, and then burn that to a USB, use Rufus if you're on windows. Then shut off your computer and boot into BIOS (mash escape or an F button). Figure out how to boot to USB, we can't help you here. Then try to boot into "live CD" mode from that, to demo it out.
Or you can download VirtualBox or some other OS virtualizer, then run it in a VM on your normal OS. This is easy but makes it a bit slower.
The Slackbook is a great resource: read it here: http://slackbook.org/html/book.html
Windows. I spent 3-5 years or so using Linux as my exclusive OS, but it's too much of a pain in the ass to justify using it as an exclusive desktop OS. When I bought a new laptop and upgraded to win10 I just never got around to partitioning and installing a *nix distro, and I realized I don't really need it. The only program that I still need and use on a regular basis is emacs now, and that runs on windows too.
Arch Linux. Its pretty neato.
Just install wine. It lets you use windows software on linux.
Why in gods name would you ever use Win10 though? Win10 is a horrible, horrible thing. If you'd rather use windows, use Windows 7, or at LEAST 8
Win10 seems to have a smaller footprint than 8 and it's not too bad once you discover the Win+X shortcut. My only major complaint is how horribly slow the start menu search is - it seems to take forever to launch anything compared to Win7 or Win8.1.
I find that some of emacs
more complex features dont work very well on Windows.
It reads every word you type, and sends that information to Microsoft.
they have so many boards...
Half of the boards there are dead.
Stop saying that tripcodes are only to be used in emergencies. A chat board is a chat board and some people like to chat with names. A board is not a sacred shrine to anonymity just because it doesn't force you to enter a name and the "Name" box is blank by default.
Fuck off tokiko. People stopped liking you years ago.
You are a tripcode thief! I am calling the internet police on you!
2ch is dying
It's been happening for a while now. The dead of 2ch is unavoidable. English textboards and imageboards have been declining noticeably for a long time as well. Many people have already quit. I, personally, will stay till the very end, shitposting about Avery Morrow.
I suck dicks
This isn't true you know. Is being unable to separate your own dissatisfaction with something and its popularity really so ubiquitous in these parts? The only thing that I would agree is moribund is the western aping of 00s otaku culture.
It seems like the web is getting harder to use.
Or maybe I'm just getting older.
I am not adapting well to the future at all.
I think you're forgetting some things:
There's the 'flat design' bullshit that people think 'is artistic':
Worst of all? This shit is starting to infect traditional desktop computing too.
Are those buttons on that dialog box or just text decoration? Who fucking knows?! The only help you get is the layout of the window.
Welcome to the aneurysm that is the Google design guidelines.
>Surfaces and edges of the material provide visual cues that are grounded in reality. The use of familiar tactile attributes helps users quickly understand affordances. Yet the flexibility of the material creates new affordances that supercede those in the physical world, without breaking the rules of physics.
What a breath of fresh air. They want the designs to seem as realistic as interactions we have in the real world.
Let's try it out:
That's right. According to google (and reality, apparently), pressing a button is actually the opposite. You're really pulling the button toward yourself!
That does actually make sense for some buttons though. You know, the ones work the funny catches.
The biggest palpable decline in the past half-decade has been the fall of the search engine and SEO wars. The Internet has become difficult to navigate and less usable largely because it's impossible to find something you're not looking for by name anymore.
What are some text/imageboards that you used to visit but have died since you discovered them? This thread is a communal location and support group for anyone experiencing that unique and poignant feeling, and to find other textboard survivors who used to post there, or generally discuss dead boards.
rest in peace.
All those boards will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
4x13.net is bringing back its BBS, with an updated BBS engine (iyagi).
Tablecat's entire site, including BBS seems to be ded or down.
It seems to go off and on. I'll try contacting him on Steam.
I miss Cyberia and Eastern Calculus. I think Holly might be occasionally be on twitter.
As some pass, new ones are always popping up here and there. Let's do our VIP duty to expand the communities and help them flourish.