Internet Culture @4-ch

Internet Culture @4-ch

Internet Culture, sub-cultures, the people who use the internet and everything else relating to is up for discussing. Let's try to talk about more than just imageboard websites, as there is more to the internet than just them.
  • Label any links you post as 'NWS' if they are not safe for viewing at work.
  • Please don't bother posting browser crashers or shock sites. They'll get removed, and you might get banned.
Rules · 規則
基本的には英語の使用を強く希望します。ただ日本語板の場合は日本語か英語。
Board look: Blue Moon Buun Futaba Headline Mercury Pseud0ch Toothpaste
1: THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !! (3) 2: [RIP] Dead text/imageboards [IN MEMORIAM] (38) 3: What OS are you using? (135) 4: late 2000s non-web internet communies (2) 5: [NEXT BIG THING] Altboards? [INNOVATIONS IN INSULTING PEOPLE ONLINE] (6) 6: Why 2ch is so cool; we need equivalent! (35) 7: IRC: why did it fail? (89) 8: Bienvenido a Internet BBS with Google Translate (2) 9: Citizendium (9) 10: Newfags, Tripfags, and Imageboard Conformity (21) 11: Fuck You And Die: An Oral History of Something Awful (1) 12: Brownpill (4) 13: LOST THE CUBE (7) 14: Pros and cons of internet debating (10) 15: What word do you prefer for oekaki? (15) 16: Anyone heard of anoNet? (30) 17: Opera vs Firefox Drama Thread (134) 18: Debating with people over the internet (47) 19: "It carries out and is w" (11) 20: Where did you come from Cotton-Eye Joe? (15) 21: Yukkuri shite itte ne! (14) 22: 12chan (62) 23: Horrible, horrible websites (216) 24: this is the ill shit (4) 25: Why We Hate Gaia (123) 26: Paradigm shift ιδέα (3) 27: lorg pnis (6) 28: Let's stop jucking off (22) 29: Deepweb; is freenet any worth (9) 30: What is what is this I don't even I don't even (20) 31: End of cool japan (14) 32: How to start a great new lively textboard bbs? (17) 33: Best Blog Site? (9) 34: Good places on the internet. (79) 35: Alienation [I mean come on, it's 2016!] (26) 36: negative nancy (3) 37: Eternal September (13) 38: [noobs] - Favorite imageboard invaded by newfags - [self defense] (4) 39: Decreasing usability on the web (5) 40: What ever happened to... (2)

THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !! (3)

1 Name: THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !!PLn6PKe7 : 2017-04-11 01:32 ID:xxXVo3Xe

THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !!

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-26 06:09 ID:Heaven

rest in peace

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-16 14:41 ID:wTd7Fmth

more like rust in pieces

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[RIP] Dead text/imageboards [IN MEMORIAM] (38)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-11-10 01:03 ID:VyUpgVmN

What are some text/imageboards that you used to visit but have died since you discovered them? This thread is a communal location and support group for anyone experiencing that unique and poignant feeling, and to find other textboard survivors who used to post there, or generally discuss dead boards.

>Post Office
>SAoVQ
>Cyberia
>Eastern Calculus

rest in peace.

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-11-04 04:22 ID:Heaven

if anyone wants to revisit just how shitty world4ch was, here's a dump of all the posts from the /prog/ board:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=48568293557384894962

30 Post deleted.

31 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-02-04 20:34 ID:LttCkkcn

Tablecat's Lounge RIP ;_;

32 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-02-24 07:10 ID:Heaven

RIP RobotMetal, even if I only visited once or twice.

33 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-05 07:25 ID:JKwBcrFo

>>29
Thank you for the dump, 404-sama. Any chance you have recent progrider too (I remember somebody talked about scraping it in november or so)? There was a nugget of gold or two hidden in that steaming pile.

34 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-08-23 12:24 ID:WxiS87gr

rip hello channel

35 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-03 03:00 ID:ykhdCRf/

>>32
That´s still online

36 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-06 20:22 ID:Heaven

>>35
It was dead when I posted that.

37 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-12 15:00 ID:coaErOmX

once upon a time i took a shit and surfed the web on my phone while doing so. i found a decently sized site called 199xchan or something. it was mainly about video games and looked pretty tight. i was never able to find it afterwards

38 Name: tokiko!5yOaZrqx.c : 2017-09-22 15:58 ID:Heaven

>>37
Sounds indersding

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What OS are you using? (135)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-05-01 14:47 ID:G58KTFB2

Post in ubuntu 9.04.

126 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-03 18:40 ID:h78EpkNI

>>124
I can't part with portage. I used slackware years ago and it wasn't totally unpleasant. I'd certainly prefer it today to something that was difficult to de-bloat.

127 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-05 00:59 ID:NtyQkmC9

Arch, stability isn't a concern when you don't have a job!

128 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-06-06 06:24 ID:4NWRlZUf

Debian stable: it's secure, stable, real AND reasonably up to date linux.

129 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-06-06 06:24 ID:4NWRlZUf

Debian stable: it's secure, stable, real AND reasonably up to date linux.

130 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-06-20 02:37 ID:O5Q6L02h

Still using Slackware Stable. Suck it, arch autists.

131 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-02 23:07 ID:Heaven

Windows 7 Professional :^)

132 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-15 18:11 ID:J2+gPOfO

Arch

133 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-08-01 17:55 ID:uCHRJNGf

gentoo with x32 abi

134 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-08 21:10 ID:9dCESAwt

Linux Mint / Windows XP dual boot (Windows 10 can kiss my ass)

135 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-11 15:53 ID:yPXFOYw5

Debian 8 because 9 oversupports the wifi drivers

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late 2000s non-web internet communies (2)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-08-30 17:18 ID:WZX719xS

Around 2008, a bunch of gaming companies launched their own pseudo-social media platforms for content sharing, with the most prominent ones being the LittleBigPlanet community and Flipnote Hatena

In my opinion, these services were the last gasp of the golden age of internet communities

By design, they were almost entirely content based, meaning that you had tons of content from tons of people, and even if said content wasn't necessarily good, it was almost always interesting

There was this really nice balance of personality and pure content

Flipnote, for example, had a group of really popular users like ShinyEevee and Gizmo, but they became popular because they produced content that people liked, not because they found a way to exploit some algorithm like on Youtube, or posted an opinion that they knew that everyone would agree with like on Reddit

It's a damn shame that everyone seems to have forgotten about these communities, because they produced a fuck ton of really interesting content

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-10 05:58 ID:A7FxSsMc

Most communities like that are now hidden behind a curtain

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[NEXT BIG THING] Altboards? [INNOVATIONS IN INSULTING PEOPLE ONLINE] (6)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-25 23:00 ID:hp8+ojan

What's next for online communities? We've got BBS, IRC, imageboards, textboards, forums, blogs, Skype/Mumble/Discord, comment sections. Where are all the certified cool guys going to be in 5 years?

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-25 23:58 ID:llaMssJ4

Let me check with my crystal ball.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-26 06:06 ID:fhJAjttj

direct IP to IP address messaging. Like phone numbers, you give someone your IP and they can send you data and you can send data back.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-07-26 07:56 ID:zgU0hv+x

>>3
I think this is how freenet works it's p2p as well.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-06 20:28 ID:Heaven

smellemporiums
olfactory based communication that requires specialized hardware attached to your computer.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-09-09 17:19 ID:MwseIiCT

No clue

I'm a 3d artist, and if working as a 3d modeler has taught me anything, it's that there's no way to really predict what becomes big next just by looking at the way things are going now

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Why 2ch is so cool; we need equivalent! (35)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-06-27 00:31 ID:6lgt+i8a

they have so many boards...

  Earthquakes
Must See
Special Projects
Beta
News
World Affairs
Information
Administration
Liasons
JIS Art
Society
Business
Underground
Post too long. Click to view the whole post or the thread page.

26 Name: tokiko!5yOwkKAi.w : 2016-01-26 20:55 ID:Heaven

Tripcodes suck almost as much as I do.

27 Name: tokiko!5yOaZrqx.c : 2016-01-30 00:52 ID:1wR9nRoq

>>26
You are a tripcode thief! I am calling the internet police on you!

28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-02-13 09:01 ID:Heaven

2ch is dying
かつての存在感を失った「2ちゃんねる」、ユーザーの減少・高齢化などで斜陽化
http://daily.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1455317534/

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-02-20 22:04 ID:oCenL/TY

>>28
It's been happening for a while now. The dead of 2ch is unavoidable. English textboards and imageboards have been declining noticeably for a long time as well. Many people have already quit. I, personally, will stay till the very end, shitposting about Avery Morrow.

30 Name: tokiko!5yOaZrqx.c : 2016-05-17 00:39 ID:hBI6AL6w

I suck dicks

31 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-05-30 04:48 ID:4CeJR/Mm

>>29
This isn't true you know. Is being unable to separate your own dissatisfaction with something and its popularity really so ubiquitous in these parts? The only thing that I would agree is moribund is the western aping of 00s otaku culture.

32 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-08-31 04:33 ID:Heaven

I love the low post-rate of a lot of these sites. Independently, they sort of make up what resembles and could be comparable in the English to what would only be 2ch. The reason they're worth using is because they are strictly unlinked (for the most part) - this non-centralization aspect to these sort of places fosters a great amosphere for higher-quality posts, which of course is aided by the lower post rates, which is kept that way because the types of people using them can only be the kind of people who will spend time on these places for a while to begin with. Things are intrinsically not green, while at the same time keeping overgrowth slow. The way it is now is an ideal environment for the reasons why I at least still use these places. In this respect, we've already reached a "bitter end" - which in our case actually tastes pretty sweet

33 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-16 20:31 ID:tH79p+y+

What is the point of a text board when books and e-mail exist?

34 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-05-09 19:53 ID:A9/uhquP

shitposting is fun and has some semblance of social interaction

35 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-06-20 02:44 ID:Btkd+sOW

Reddit has many subforums. In fact, users can create their own subforums.

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IRC: why did it fail? (89)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-04-06 01:14 ID:6ppXr5qs

It's widely banned for its tendency to be a DDoS lightningrod, and only slightly less infamous for its impenetrable cliques of time-wasting losers. Was IRC just in the wrong place at the wrong time, or is the protocol responsible for its own failure? And how could we do better?

Discuss!

80 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-07-12 21:26 ID:q9HSmGEU

irc isn't dead, a lot of people still use it. I'll admit though, most of the people who use it are either
1) tech geeks
2) "underground" internet users

or combinations of the both

81 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-07-18 06:22 ID:Heaven

I find IRC a wonderful way to keep up with my online contacts, as the room I run usually has 10-15 people in it at a time and discussion is almost always going. Better than using a one-on-one IM client, at least to me.

82 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-07-23 22:53 ID:jB521VL/

Maybe we are asking the wrong questions. How about this:

  • Why does IRC work excellent for some groups and not at all for others?
  • For what kind of groups/people does IRC work well?

83 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-07-24 18:45 ID:0YfvBqCH

It works for the kind of people who have the free time to while away hours idling on a channel between chats.

84 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-03 01:22 ID:KrfVYX5L

>>82
1)because some people want interaction from their social activities while irc users are content to just idle.

2)antisocial nerds on powertrips

85 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-10-02 20:49 ID:Heaven

/join #4chan on rizon and then tell me that IRC is dead

86 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-05-29 21:00 ID:uUqB+RZ9

>>85
IRC is dead, sorry man.

87 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-05-30 04:54 ID:7MljuVQr

>>86
It's not.

88 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-05-30 13:16 ID:fEJUKcNu

>>85
it is a horrible clique.

89 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-06-30 04:55 ID:Heaven

>>88
I was going to say, if that's what "live IRC" looks like, I want no part of it.

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Bienvenido a Internet BBS with Google Translate (2)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-24 17:13 ID:SbjsLkkE

Bienvenido a Internet is a website similar to Channel4

If you don't know spanish, you can translate it with Google Translate. Translation's quality is pretty good. Here's the link with translated website:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbienvenidoainternet.org%2F&edit-text=&act=url

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-24 17:25 ID:Heaven

There could be problems with translated page due to frames, if the links don't work, just open them in a new tab.

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Citizendium (9)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-09-17 22:47 ID:RhGVj37p

http://citizendium.org/

An interesting [or rather, uninteresting] fork of Wikipedia that is going to be Wikipedia, but editor controlled and no anonymous editing. Am I the only one that thinks the name of it will be its downfall, comrades?

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-09-18 00:38 ID:s7vN33Wa

What happened to Larry's last project, hmmm?

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-09-18 04:26 ID:Heaven

so it's a fork of wikipedia that's exactly the same but with a name that's even more gay? why?

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-09-18 04:31 ID:RhGVj37p

>>3
it's just like nupedia, the editor controlled encyclopedia that registered users could contribute to. nupedia was wikipedia's predecessor, and it failed. now larry is just trying to capitalize on wikipedia's success to bring it back from the dead.

5 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc : 2006-09-18 08:41 ID:vgXJnhu5

But experts will be involved and made into editors. Aren't you trying to turn the successful "bazaar"-style Wikipedia model into a failed "cathedral" style of project?

Again, no. Experts will be expected to work shoulder-to-shoulder with ordinary people in this project in more or less the same bottom-up fashion that Wikipedia uses. The difference is that, when content disputes arise, whatever editors are paying attention to the article will be empowered to articulate a resolution--if the article falls in their area of specialization. Furthermore, their decisions will be enforceable. Think of editors as the village elders wandering the bazaar and occasionally dispensing advice and reining in the wayward. Their presence is merely a moderating, civilizing influence. They don't stop the bazaar from being a bazaar.

A noble idea, I guess. But fighting Wikipedia's momentum is gonna be an uphill battle.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-09-18 09:41 ID:JOvKCNvY

Well, if they keep the licensing model (I guess they will/wil have to), then they and wikipedia can at least use each others articles. I kind of like the idea (The drama on some wikipedia articles is just to much, it would be good if there was a possibility for someone to step in and just stop it), but I don't think it will work. People seem to like to directly edit the articles over and over again, and debate over if everything is correct. Plus, "Wikipedia" sounds much cooler than "Citizendium".

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-10-04 09:58 ID:yC3ChW7+

Oh goody. This must be the "open meritocracy" he'd been blathering about. Too bad it's just another euphemism for rule by celebrity.

8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-03-10 18:46 ID:JprMjc5h

dicks out for Harambe

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-19 18:26 ID:HVK9upEJ

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Newfags, Tripfags, and Imageboard Conformity (21)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-11-10 17:31 ID:gRwhjBlr

There's an excellent example of someone not integrating smoothly into an imageboard community going on right now on Gurochan. If you can tolerate the images, take a look here:

http://img.gurochan.net/f/wakaba.html

and here:

http://img.gurochan.net/f/wakaba.html

The user named Cindy posted, I can only assume, without reading the rules or lurking to get a feel for the community. Now she and her lack of familiarity have become the target of malicious, but arguably well-intentioned teasing -- things like the classic "DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS" routine run on people who don't have a tripcode, which she completely didn't get, and people impersonating her, both with and without tripcodes.

What do you think of this?

12 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-11-14 05:54 ID:DfK531GE

Brief glance, but couldn't see any evidence of her posting.

Though wouldn't you think that a girl twisted enough to firstly find gurochan, and then want to integrate into the "exclusive" community would know a bit better?

13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-11-15 08:11 ID:q8bmWOxJ

You'd think, but somehow these rotten people slip into imageboard culture.

They try to be unique. They use smileys. Sometimes they even post useful things, which makes it even more difficult to retain the nice imageboard culture that we, or at least I, know and love. I can't quite pinpoint why their nonuniformity bothers me so much, but you can just tell that they stick out, and it's unpleasant on some level.

Am I the only one who feels like that?

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-11-15 08:20 ID:q8bmWOxJ

>>13 Sometimes they even post useful things, which makes it even more difficult to retain the nice imageboard culture that we, or at least I, know and love.
And by that I didn't mean to imply that a good imageboard is one without useful posts; I meant that the fact that these people occasionally do something right makes it even more difficult to categorically label them as foul and wrong.

15 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-11-15 08:22 ID:DfK531GE

>>13
I was thinking she was either a troll or extremely dense (who somehow was savvy enough to find gurochan?).

I know how you feel though. They don't have the sense to lurk more before posting. They should just stay in their avatar forums and enjoy their ego-stroking.

16 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-11-15 10:33 ID:q8bmWOxJ

I thought she had actually settled down, but apparently she flipped the fuck out and decided to "get back" at Gurochan by deleting her posts.

What a failure.

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18 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-10-26 18:17 ID:gRMDW+Lk

I don't mind conformity so long as it's not conforming in opinions or interests

19 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-01-04 20:36 ID:FD0zrgnV

Why shouldn't people use names/tripcodes?

Anonymity != quality, identity != trash posting

Just because you can be Anonymous, doesn't mean you should

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-01-10 06:20 ID:Heaven

> gurochan
> these rotten people

what

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2017-04-16 20:25 ID:wN31POSH

And this is why everyone hates small communities.

It creates a toxic, cult-like atmosphere where non-conformity is punished. You're smothering people and crushing out their joy.

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