Tagging (13)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-17 02:40 ID:Heaven

What's the obsession with tagging and metadata? If you have so much fucking data that you can't remember where you put what, just delete it.

Crimony.

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-17 03:23 ID:c3TosTOl

It's just a database. There's plenty of possible uses.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-17 06:55 ID:2mOOt6Eh

it helps organization because things don't always fit in one category, and it avoids symlinks and multiple files

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-18 00:09 ID:VwkPvitj

>>1
I run an internet radio station. I don't think people would appreciate it.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-18 23:25 ID:OCC1v8Dj

What!? Do you want to drive our digital society into chaos!?

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-22 05:09 ID:f18G0OwF

tagging/metadata is a good idea, but not everyone uses the same tag name for the same thing. one person uploades a Naruto episode to youtube and tags it "naruto" another person does it and tags it "anime". They are both correctly labeled but a search on one tag wont bring back both videos.

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-23 14:11 ID:fu5JEXYu

>>6
I understand what you mean, but that is something that can mostly be solved by a good tagging system via tag implications ("Naruto" implies "Anime") and/or tag recommendations (Things tagged naruto are also often tagged anime, so the system recommends that you use the tag anime too).

8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-23 16:12 ID:Heaven

>>6
Yeah, youtube should allow users to add tags as well.

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-23 17:22 ID:Heaven

>>7

Next up: Spelling mistakes in tags, use of plural vs. singular, different words for the same thing...

10 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-23 22:55 ID:fu5JEXYu

>>9
The only real problem I see are the spelling mistakes. All other problems you named can be solved if the developer does some thinking. Have a look at danbooru (http://danbooru.donmai.us/ blah blah warning very very NSFW) for how a properly designed tagging system can work.

  • It solves such things as plurals and different names for the same thing with aliases and implications (for example, "inumimi" is aliased to "dog ears").
  • It allows all users to quickly correct tagging errors and to add or remove tags in a wiki-like fashion and also keeps a history for quick rollbacks in case of vandalism.
  • It uses tag suggestions to help users decide how to properly tag things.
  • It has a page with an easyly understandable explanation of how tagging is supposed to be done and what conventions there are.
  • It allows you to easily search for pictures in a way that would be hard to do without tags (For example I could search for images that are tagged inumimi OR nekomimi but NOT loli and NOT shota).

11 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-24 11:21 ID:Heaven

>>10

I've used it, and while I agree it is indeed better than many, it is still far from usable for anyone but very, very obsessive people. A casual user will really have very little idea what he should tag an image with, and everybody does leave out appropriate tags all the time.

12 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-25 04:00 ID:c+4r/SpZ

>>10
Using danbooru gets really annoying when looking for items with multi-word tags. I had a heck of a time finding a certain fate/stay night doujin page.

13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-25 10:58 ID:Heaven

Also, maybe there IS a system for searching for multiple tags, but it sure as hell is not obvious how to do it.

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