Anyone heard of anoNet? (29)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-17 07:18 ID:w7KgUM/P

http://anonet.org/

Read and discuss.

I find the whole concept terribly intriguing, myself.

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-17 16:56 ID:Heaven

Hey, look, another way for people to share kiddy porn!

Good thing it's apparently a whole lot less secure than Tor.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-18 14:35 ID:3uCKkLRk

Urm well... it's just a big, routed, open-to-everyone VPN. Dunno what for, tho.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-19 02:28 ID:kYKoKYf8

>>2

Tor is secure?

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-19 08:11 ID:QC+4/ajx

>>4
More secure than this.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-20 19:13 ID:Heaven

>>2>>4>>5 stfu trolls.

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-21 18:08 ID:Px494OJ5

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8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-22 00:44 ID:Heaven

>>7

Uh, WTF?

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-22 17:38 ID:Px494OJ5

>>8 u're a fucking idiot.

10 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-23 11:00 ID:Ar7F11br

>>9
And you're a troll.

11 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-26 20:49 ID:Heaven

a stupid reply does not a troll make. a troll is identified by a comment that isn't obviously flamebait but manages to get flames.

12 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-26 22:59 ID:PEU6a7wR

>>7 has a point, I think... It's hard to tell. Anonet is fucking psychotic about some things. Kind of like those people who refuse to use email at all unless it's PGP(compatible) encrypted, for no good reason. I've read their wiki, which exists within anonet. They have some rediculous ways of making sure that people are not within the same country while remaining anonymous. Most involve a third-party within anonet. Example, maybe you'd both give one of the anonet founders the first octet of your IP. If there was a likely hood you were in the same country, they would probably say you shouldn't peer. Or maybe they'll get the whole degree part of either your latitude or longitude - not both - which can then be used to verify that the two people who want to peer cannot possibly in the same country. It's kind of crazy.

That being said, anonet people have told me that not everyone on anonet is psycho like that. I don't know - I didn't stick around long enough to find out. I'd rather see a vpn that grows friend-to-friend, kind of like WASTE. Anyway, anonet is a neat idea and brilliant implementation, but a huge pain in the ass, unless you're REALLY interested.

Speaking of, if I can garner enough interest within the community at my university, and maybe a couple others I'm a member of, I'll probably be setting up a F2F VPN, to experiment with routing protocols and whatnot as well as a way for people behind routers or something to provide services. I'm newish to this board - would there be enough interest to do such a thing here?

13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-27 02:06 ID:bCwoYxWt

Why is it better than Freenet?

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-28 05:57 ID:epeGohhY

>>13
It's not better than Freenet, it's different. Just like tor isn't better or worse than Freenet, but different. Freenet is a massive, anonymous, redundant data haven, useful for data storage and nothing else. tor is built around TCP connections - it's designed to move data, not to store it.

Anonet is entirely different. It's built on VPN connections. Think virtual network cables plugged between a bunch of computers running routing software in a web configuration - kind of like the Internet itself. The people on Anonet have anonymity through pseudonyms (like most "normal" forums) rather than full anonymity. An... unsavory... user can be removed from the network rather easily, unlike freenet and tor whose main purpose is to circumvent censorship. It's also a decent experimentation platform - the links between nodes are virtual ethernet cards (TAP devices powered by OpenVPN), so you can run switching and routing protocols over them.

Another shameless plug: I am >>12 and have seen some interest in other communities. If you're interested in building an experimental OpenVPN network show some interest here and we'll see about doing it.

15 Name: ANONYMOUSE : 2007-03-30 14:17 ID:+iusAr9F

CAN I HAET YOU?

"Read and discuss."

WHAT THE? IS THIS NET CULTURE?

....

Sorry for that. It was my horrible alter-ego LAZER MIKE.

Oh, and btw,

ANON DOES NOT FORGIVE.

16 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-21 09:17 ID:DOzrc5Us

So nothing stops FBI from entering this VPN right?

17 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-21 18:50 ID:0UetwIfT

I don't understand, this is like a different internets?

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19 Name: oo : 2007-05-13 11:51 ID:A9YN7yn/

they can enter the VPN #16 just they can't do too much like identify people, given that anonet is spread across a diverse culture, they could infact be breaking international treaties on accessing information, especially on a private network.

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-05-25 21:16 ID:bNGwXACh

>>19 ok. So that means they can do anything they want. I'm out.

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-06-10 21:42 ID:4nGP+d3A

It look like this is kinda new for me.

Please, give us more details.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-06-13 02:02 ID:XFvmGJFX

Does it have more or less CP than Freenet?

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-06-25 05:40 ID:MjpNL9Wo

>>22

Considerably less. Actually none. The network is not truly anonymous in the sense that you have no identity on it. It is pseudonymous, so if you host or post CP, the rest of anonet can simply nullroute your IP within the network. Notably there is also the deterrent that if you're actually dumb enough to host CP, at least one person knows your real IP.

If you want a darknet dedicated to CP, why not build your own OpenVPN-based meta-network? Again I wouldn't recommend it because I don't actually trust anyone that much. But you should research it anyway. Hell, by the time you get that far you may get over your childish obsession with CP.

24 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-06-29 05:21 ID:Heaven

>>15

> Sorry for that.

I forgive you.

25 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-07-01 08:41 ID:azDwPkwv

It's a different purpose than things like Freenet. Freenet is for people who want to do illegal things without being caught, like share CP or plan terrorist attacks.

anoNet is for people who are just plain paranoid. The type of people who would make you recite a password to let you in if you knocked on their door. They're not afraid of "The Man" finding out what they're doing. They're afraid of everybody finding out what they're doing.

26 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-07-01 20:15 ID:Heaven

>>25 is a lame argument.

anoNet is shit and useless. It's as secure as internet itself. You can't log in with a "stone" on internet, and you can't log in onto anoNet without a few hours of free time.
I just made buddies with a pirate software site admin on anonet, the idiot even game me his cellphone number already.
Let this thread die already.

27 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-07-04 05:12 ID:tuOoXJm2

anonet is secure as in only people on the network have access to the information, snooping from outside will only return encrypted connections and nothing more, given that you can use BGP or OSPF (ano2) you can transmit information over different routes.

anonet is for experimenting with networking and cryptology and accessing content outside of your restricted country or without somone snooping. if you believe "if you have nothing to hide.." then anonet isnt for you i'm afraid.

anonet is what you make it.

28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-07-04 21:12 ID:Heaven

>anonet is for experimenting with networking and cryptology

pretty much sums it up. fie thread die fin the end owari

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-07-12 03:07 ID:xWSvU80K

>>17
Yes, that's pretty much a simplified explaination of VPN.

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