well,, dunno where to post this, but anyone know how to get to 12chan? really curious about it...
you will be presented with instructions from there
>>3 has linked child pornography. ban him
Just do it the simple way. If you want CP, go get CP. It's not that hard--it's about the only topic in the Adult (paradoxically) section of The Onion Forum.
If you want JB the anonib board is generally superiar anyway.
Wow... 12chan is the place rumored to be (or probably is) filled with Child Pr0n. Avoid it like the plague. (unless you LIKE jail... >_>;;;)
no that is all bullshit. The mods remove cp as soon as possible. It hosts child models. child fscking models that aren't in the nude. You guys all complain about sites like ED, yet you all spew propaganda bullshit, and you don't even do it jokingly like them. You're part of the system. You're acting on behalf of the bullshit spewing system. I have only run across 1 cp pic there in the past few months, and it was deleted within hours. They've also cracked down a lot in their IRC.
12chan is obviously set up by the FBI and records your IP and then arrests you. AND WHY THE HELL DO YOU LIKE LOOKING AT PICTURES OF UNDER AGED PEOPLE YOU MUST HAVE PROBLEMS!
Picking a fight with the lolicons are we?
>>9 well, see, some of us, including the majority of the users of 12chan, are actually horny teenagers who want to get laid, but are intelligent enough to not actually go out and do it. Sure, there are some pedos, but the majority of the users aren't. Also, sure, the feds are probably logging all of our ip addresses, but the site itself is not set up by the feds, and they have no grounds to arrest us. Everything on the site is either legal, or the laws that make the stuff illegal are unconstitutional, and we know that. Now, seriously, I'm not trying to get into a flame war, I'm just pointing out that the majority of posters in this thread have no factual basis for their hatred of 12chan, nor their convictions about what the site actually is.
You know, child models in skimpy outfits can count as child pornography in the US. Contrary to popular myth it's not purely a matter of whether the genitals and nipples are visible. If the poses are seductive and the crotch and chest are barely covered then that site is skating on thin ice. There are court precedents ruling that in addition to butts and genitals the whole crotch and upper thighs area is part of the forbidden zone.
I've heard of a few cases like what you're saying, but that would be ruled unconstitutional if the lawyers were good and the judges and jury actually knew what they were talking about (as the usually don't, because their moral convictions usually stand in the way of their decisions) actually argued. I think what matters more is if they're wearing clothes or not. For example, a girl lying on her stomach without a bra is worse than a girl wearing a bra that's really skimpy. No matter what, though, not a single member of 12chan has been prosecuted for non-cp they actually got from that site, recently, anyway. And earlier this year, they were investigated by the feds and found to be legal, they just had to tighten their ban on cp.
> child models
aka, kiddie porn.
> Everything on the site is either legal,
> or the laws that make the stuff illegal are unconstitutional, and we know that.
> that would be ruled unconstitutional if the lawyers were good and the judges and jury actually knew what they were talking about
good luck finding someone to take your case to the supreme court, where it will be shot down in flames.
Do you jerk off to it? Than there's a good chance that it is in fact, porn.
>aka, kiddie porn
Do you even know what the hell you're talking about. Sure, child modeling isn't the greatest, but kiddie porn actually sexualizes them. That's why child modeling is legal.
>good luck finding someone to take your case to the supreme court, where it will be shot down in flames.
See, we don't have to take our cases to the supreme court, cuz we don't get prosecuted. And believe me, there are a hell of a lot of first amendmant lawyers that would argue on behalf of someone falsly prosecuted, which won't happen. I also know one of these lawyers personally.
Do you want to fucking bet, dude? Ok, so there are slips sometimes. Very rarely. And there was the one LS model thread that died out pretty quickly. Other than that, everything is legal, at least in my district. As I can't afford any jail time, I've researched this thoroughly, and in my district, I actually have to posses the cp, and the court has to prove that I obtained it intentionally. They can't. And my cache is clear, and I have Linux so my data deletion is much more secure than Windows.
>Do you jerk off to it? Than there's a good chance that it is in fact, porn.
Not necessarily, cuz I also find trains physically attractive, but by a textbook or dictionary definition, yes, the majority of the content is indeed porn. However, by legal definition in my district, it is not.
Now, if you're in Canada, the UK, more fanciest areas of Europe, right wing states, and many other places, this stuff may be considered illegal. However, there is yet to be prosectution and sufficient legal evidence to prove the content of 12chan to be illegal. I think a common mistake that many people make is to feel that legality implies morality. I also think that, by lowering the age of consent down just two or three years, 12chan would be mostly abandoned by horny teenagers and become more of a mecca for pedos, which is when the feds could really do something about it. I mean, seriously, are you going to prosecute a bunch of kids for jacking off to semi-legal stuff? If you are, what the fuck is wrong with you? If you really feel that a bunch of kids deserve that, you're the sick fuck, not us.
Now, I know this is veering off topic a lot, but let me present my reasoning for using 12chan: In my district, it is a felony to have sex with anyone under the age of 18. This means that, as a 14 year old, if I have consensual sex with any girl that's older than me but under 18, I am under grounds for several years in prison and being on the sex offender registry for the rest of my life. And I'm sorry, but a while back, a really nasty Japanese porn movie spoiled adults for me, and while I'm slowly going back, it's taking a while. So tell you what, I'll make you a deak: you make me legal and I'll stop jacking off to chicks older than I am in skimpy clothing on 12chan.
> child modeling isn't the greatest, but kiddie porn actually sexualizes them
> That's why child modeling is legal.
> 12chan to be illegal
websites are not illegal, the content is.
No 'deak'. You're a pedophile and the world hates you. Get over yourself.
wow, that's pretty rude. Go back to 4chan with the rest of the trolls who can't get a life. Or better yet, go kill yourself.
Better yet, you go back to 12chan and then send your porn to the feds, since it's legal anyway.
People always justify that if the kid is wearing clothes, it's not CP.
That's total bullshit.
That's the excuse they use to sell CP in Japanese adult video stores. I see DVD's lined up of 12 year old kids (Yes, they really are 12) in suggestive clothing or positions that people with the loli complex crave.
There's no plausible excuse why this kind of thing should be tolerated. Not even "Because im a teenager and im horny"
> as a 14 year old
If you're only 14, and you're so worried about the law then why are you looking at porn in the first place? I'm pretty sure the law forbids people your age from looking at porn.
Imaginary lawyers ITT
I imagine that law is prosecuted to about the same degree as violations of the "must be over 13 or have parents' permission to register an online account" law.
>>23 See "Children's Online Privacy Protection Act" kthx.
Fuck sake. 12chan IS monitored. since u can get the pass by newfags on any of the other chans or just by googeling it. FIRST RULE: Dont talk about #chan. SECOND RULE: DONT talk about #chan!!
Actually, that's /b/, dipshit.
>>24 that sounds like something specific to a single nation to me.
HAHA who the fuck posts here asking for CP anyways? you sick fuck
Large minority of internet people download the CP. He got caught. It's just not news anymore. Also, lol Loli-chan.
Here's the real crime:
An FBI agent, working undercover, posted a message on the board directing users to a Web-site link to download a video file containing kiddie porn. The link was actually to a non-pornographic image file on a covert FBI computer in California.
Fake content ruins web sites everywhere. As if we need more spam, even on CP boards.
Lol, they got vanrolled
And people who wanted to watch School Days got boatrolled.
Has 12chan actually been prosecuted ? Does anyone know the outcome ? Facts, please, if you know them.
Don't talk about anything chan related ever unless it's with another chantard.
I honestly believe every single one of you needs to get a life. The fact that a site like this is created on the basis of either trolling or debating child porn is just fuckin sad go to college learn law and prosecute them but why dont you all just take a bullet to the head and shut the fuck up.
All things taken into consideration, looking at the tremendeous amounts of hormonal rage and maternal singularities flying around in this vast and empty space of a BBS... everything wen't better than expected
Google only hot chan
or go to http://imgsrc.ru/ and search girls
pedos make me laugh tryin to justify what they do!!!! i think anyone who enjoys children in a sexual way should kill themselves because they are too sick in the head to be cured
Sonograms have caught fetuses, male and female, masturbating in the womb (albeit with no climax.)
Some people, particularly girls, report masturbating as one of their earliest memories, even in diapers.
Climaxing starts showing up around five or six. (Although without ejaculation in boys.) I was a late bloomer at eight or nine, and didn't start getting messy until 12 or 13. (male)
Girls can accept a (carefully introduced, well lubricated) penis starting around seven. Before that, severe vaginal damage may result.
Many cultures, including traditional Western Europe and early American culture, have had girls marrying off as early as nine or ten.
This idea that any sex at all before sixteen or so is a horrendous violation worse than death is ludicrous, and probably does as much damage as it prevents.
Not that a big age difference isn't ripe with opportunities for actual abuse, no. It's just been blown way out of proportion as being a near universal biological fact for the purpose of turning large numbers of people into hardened criminals who can be tracked and controlled.
That said, we're definitely in a state of moral panic regarding this issue and it ought to be addressed with some rational thinking for once. Do weird things happen? Oh yes and no doubt a lot of us know from personal experience. Everyone has that MILF neighbor/creepy uncle. We only hear of the awful negative consequences because we only hear of the worst possible cases of abuse. I'm sure minor incidents happen far more often than we're willing to admit and there's no way to have a discussion about it or study it given the consequences of admission (for both parties). There's something of a witch hunt aspect about even discussing the topic at the moment (notice this is saged; notice I called >>47 a creep).
The main thing the US could use right now is a sliding scale especially aimed at softening the age 18 barrier. By that I mean a person age 18 shouldn't be made a life-long sex offender because their partner is 17 (it does happen; some prosecutors like easy wins). Why not a three year sliding scale based around 18? This would more accurately reflect the realities of the age group rather than forming a red line between 18 year-olds and those under.
Wait, what was this thread about?
While child pornography is indeed, illegal, most of the content on 12chan is not legally considered pornography. You may consider it as such, but your morals have no foothold in the American judicial system.
Plus, I wouldn't be so quick to judge other people's moral character if I were you. I;m sure you've done some pretty awful shit too.
>>52 is a second order pedophile; someone accusing others of pedophelia because he knows what its like and identifies them with it
>>53 is also a pedophile. in an attempt to defend the perceived honor of his disgusting practices he misconstrues others' attacks as motivated by delusions similar to his own, yet ultimately fails in this as his fierce pedo-rage quickly causes noticeable linguistic disruptions.
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