Next Big Internet Thing (74)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-01-29 03:51 ID:YO+RcM1H

In 2002 Something Awful was the place to be. Next came YTMND, and from 2003-2006 4-chan was the greatest thing ever. So what do you think is next?

It's unlikely, but if 4-ch were to suddenly explode in popularity I wouldn't be too surprised.

25 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-12 04:08 ID:TARcQExo

I'm usually against raids, but considering Scientology is the oldest enemy of the Internet, counting all the way back to the USENET days, this is actually a somewhat noble cause.

I don't particularly condone their methods, but I hope this helps raising awareness to what Scientology really is. Most people have no idea Scientology is an evil cult that does nothing but extract money, blackmail people and use their Unlimited Lawyer Works to keep functioning. Kind of like a Mafia with a religious fa├žade. Wait -- that's exactly what it is.

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28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-13 05:38 ID:XdcajuAu

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-14 05:04 ID:2+gcykek

shut up about anon we went off topic

30 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-14 06:59 ID:lJus5NDg

>>1
Somethingawful and 4chan have not been a "big internet thing". They spawn a lot of irreverent humour and in-jokes popular among a segment of the geek/gamer/otaku crowd, but aren't really that relevant in the big scheme of things on the net. SA was at its cultural influence zenith in 1999-2001 or so, or whenever they were spawning stuff like All Your Base. Gradually they started tightening posting standards, and got a boost in quality but it seems to have hindered their propensity for generating fast-spreading memes and jokes. 4chan has gradually taken over SA's role of being the "center of internet comedy", probably in large part due to lack of moderation and restrictions, as well as many of the early users coming from SA. Memes like rickroll and chocolate rain have spread much farther into the greater non-internet masses than anything SA ever generated. Possibly due to there simply being more internet-literate people around now. YTMND was never all that popular to begin with.

For all the popularity 4chan has gained though, it still pales in alexa ranking when compared to 2channel. It's only now with this anonymous activisim thing that it's starting to reach into the scale of the cultural influence in america and worldwide that 2channel has achieved in Japan.

For proper scale "big internet thing", I think you'd be looking more at something like search engines to portals to Google to blogs to social networking to Youtube+flash video.

31 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-14 07:04 ID:lJus5NDg

>>30
Holy shit, scratch that. 4chan is even past 2ch now. It's not the most accurate measurement, but it's still pretty impressive.

32 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-14 11:37 ID:XdcajuAu

>>31
That's laughable.

33 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-14 12:34 ID:Heaven

>>31
Comparing apples with oranges too.

34 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-15 23:29 ID:Heaven

4chan is in rank 298 now and it's going up.

35 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-02-16 23:38 ID:46ySa/Zr

>> 30

Are we measuring the "big internet thing" with the overall internet population or with the net addict sort of crowd?

I think the latter counts more, since they invest more time in the internet than do the general populace of say, myspace. I imagine 4chan is far more popular among heavy users.

36 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-03-19 18:45 ID:rngIStTP

bah, i wish there was a new thing

4chan died and that is it so far, the entire web has now become a mainstream thing such that there are no more 'things'

there will be niche sites left to enjoy, like this one, but no BIG THINGs

37 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-03-21 21:36 ID:r3K8WBGq

>>31
2channel's base is just Japan (130 million). 4chan's base is basically the whole world, with North America dominating. 2channel might actually still be ahead for now, but Futaba has certainly been left behind.

>>35
Actually I suspect Myspace users would be more committed in a sense. They at least have to set up a page and try to gain online friends etc etc. Vast majority of 4channers just download pictures. If every visitor was making posts then all of 4chan's boards would be another /b/.

Sadly I think the proportion of people posting is even lower on iiChan. I think a lot of visitors just view iiChan as a picture repository they can download from and then go to 4chan to actually interact and have fun. No wonder really when newcomers (and oldtimers) are met with near-total silence however much they post. Very encouraging indeed...

38 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-03-22 13:55 ID:GcKjELCD

everybody hates me. today in my school bullies put me in the trashbin and urinated on me. woe woe woe

39 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-03-24 11:29 ID:ifW5tsqJ

>>38
ok i lol'd

40 Name: lawl : 2008-05-23 01:17 ID:Gvq8ddq3

google.

4 real :p

41 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2008-05-27 18:12 ID:TCoUO4PU

>>31

what?

2ch is still dominating 4chan, although futaba is below 4chan.

42 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-30 01:49 ID:ju9uZyzz

>>3
>>5
They're right, you know.

43 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-02 16:38 ID:Bjy6MaqA

GOING OFFLINE

44 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-05 02:06 ID:RMrzeKSd

VR social spaces are the next big thing, though unfortunately they're being pushed by the establishment as a new form of social engineering/mind kontrol.

45 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-05 13:07 ID:Bjy6MaqA

online suicide pacts

actually it is already a big trend in Japan since like 2001

46 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-06 11:53 ID:Bjy6MaqA

coud gaming

47 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-06 11:53 ID:Bjy6MaqA

cloud

48 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-06 12:13 ID:Bjy6MaqA

cloud gaming

49 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-06 12:14 ID:Bjy6MaqA

you will be able to play far cry 5 on Pentium III

50 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-09 23:37 ID:Bjy6MaqA

51 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-08-12 05:10 ID:yiirNkdg

i hope this website at least gains a bit in traction, this website is interesting but doesn't deserve to be exposed to the cancer of the newer sites.

52 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-08-26 00:17 ID:aBH/VCb4

I check back here every couple of months or years. Coming back always makes me happy. Sometimes I can pick up a conversation from before. If 4-ch started moving faster it would lose this feeling of being a safe haven to return to every once in a while.

53 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-08-27 10:45 ID:Din7SrJw

>>52
It's already starting to get too fast for me:

54 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-09-06 13:01 ID:CYUYWgCN

crowdfunded suicide pacts on blockchain with livestreams

we all kill ourselves in a lulzy way and our family gets $$$

good bye mafia bets

55 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-09-10 02:41 ID:VciYRaUE

>>54 The future is now.

56 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-11-20 22:52 ID:qroVfeKf

more spyware

57 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-12-14 02:43 ID:1ZS7L64r

Ay anyone here want to add me on fortnite ;^DDDD

58 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-12-17 04:22 ID:bpAFfCNf

59 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-01-06 07:23 ID:MKBGld1q

The centralization of the internet to a few websites.

60 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-01-07 02:47 ID:BqWA9rPB

I know it might be retarded to say this about Internet culture, but I highly recommend you guys read Oswald Spengler's "Decline of the West". Although he can get a bit autistic with pseudo-metaphysics, his main ideas are on point, but the Internet is recent and clear evidence that his historical model can apply to even subcultures AS LONG AS there is a higher-ideal(s) and enough stimuli and people to participate. (Despite that, if you want a long-lasting culture, religion IS necessary. Materialism does not a culture make.)

61 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-02 13:31 ID:RJN6IwL1

>AS LONG AS there is a higher-ideal

looks like we're fucked

62 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-04 00:31 ID:DhHm+SbP

>>60
Religion is a materialism. Naturalism forever.

63 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-03-03 22:00 ID:BWGcfoAf

>>58

I liked using reddit back in 2017, but it's been getting worse and worse.

I think it peaked at r/place.

64 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-03-15 13:44 ID:yKJRVRp2

next big internet is livestream hardcore henry

65 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-03-18 08:50 ID:Y0hU5cTa

I was playing uplink the other and then i found out it has an IRC client in it. I think that's gonna be big

66 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-05-26 02:39 ID:ZqhUWTlT

For my circle it's telegram, but the circle is kinda bubbled up for my tastes. I mean you don't have that sense of exploration you had.

67 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-06-26 14:25 ID:2+4hrk96

>>66
I think that's the problem of the contemporary internet, people circle the wagons and retreat into places they think they can express themselves. That's why I'm here at least lol

68 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-30 03:28 ID:JIR8veAw

I don't think there will be another good communications platform for a long time. The world is shrinking every day and everyone knows everything. The internet has run its course as a medium, and we'll probably be very old or dead by the time the next big thing becomes a practical reality. Sucks...

69 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-03 16:09 ID:3VRj8uAX

we need Another Medium

70 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-21 15:43 ID:RQRXdRsP

>>68
I think there's plenty of great communication platforms today. From a purely objective standpoint modern social media and chat platforms are way better for communication than sites like this one.

I think your problem, and indeed the problem of most people here, is that you've fallen victim to the generational gap. The world you understand is shrinking rapidly as sites you once cherished either die or change to the point where they're no longer recognizable, and a new generation with different norms and values begins to outnumber yours.

Things change with time. The world you knew isn't coming back, and the new generation doesn't want it back. I've met zoomers who've called old geocities sites eyesores and have no idea how to even use the likes of IRC, let alone the desire to do so

The reality of the situation is that things change with time. You can either accept it and move on with your life, or stay here, wallowing in your misery.

71 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-25 13:45 ID:28EImDxD

>>70
What kind of communication though? The nu-internet is great for dank cringe memes and terrible for any kind of serious discussion--and that's by design. reddit and twitter were not meant to be used for discussion, unlike forums which were specifically made for that purpose. Imageboards work ok as long as there isn't too much traffic. But reddit and twitter is where all the "serious discussion" is supposed to be happening.

72 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-25 22:17 ID:0tmC/dd0

Usenet was 'made for serious discussion' yet in retrospective, it was also full of angry nerd flamewars and stupid 90s jokes in place of memes.
I'm not sure the shortcomings of discussion on the Net are stronly tied with technology used.

73 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-10-27 11:26 ID:28EImDxD

twitter posts are limited to very few characters, so that already prohibits serious discussion. It's also transient in nature, not meant for drawn out discussions that could last for days, weeks, months or years. It's meant for announcements and "here's something I bought today" type of messages. Parsing twitter discussion threads is also difficult.

reddit threads are transient as well. A thread typically has a lifespan of 24 hours or less, maybe a few days on a slower sub, and in very active threads only the users who get in on the ground floor are likely to get their comment seen. Unless they "hijack the top comment for visibility," as they often have to do. If they make the mistake of saying something the collective disagrees with, their comment is collapsed and banished to the bottom. Even the visibility of the thread itself is dependent on people's votes. And like twitter threads, it's hard to parse reddit threads because of all the nesting, collapsing and moving comments (moving in the sense that when they are voted up and down their position on the page also shifts). You don't even get notifications for anything except direct replies to what you wrote.

reddit also by its nature encourages constant reposting and rehashing, and this in conjunction with voting conditions people to automatically accept and adopt popular views. Repetition + social proof = it must be correct.

On a related note, some have speculated that phoneposting has changed the way people post on 4chan. Interacting with a thread on a phone is much more cumbersome and encourages more shallow interaction, and posting on the go doesn't make people dedicate their time and attention to the thread as much as they would on a computer. Ban evasion is also way easier. This all leads to decreased post quality. Fast 4chan threads also encourage fast posting, which is bad for quality.

74 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-24 00:48 ID:Heaven

>>73
Reddit works well when used for its intended purpose; being a content aggregator. Things are split off into different boards so you can find subjects you like, and then people post links to things within that subject. Votes and karma are perfect when you're looking for recommendations, not so much for discussion.

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