Japanese Online Idioms (409)

1 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-26 05:15 ID:Heaven [Del]

I would like to know what some of the Japanese phrases mean that are mostly used online, on boards like 2ch, e.g.

There is DQN and (ry, for instance.

What do those mean? Are there other ones I need to know to understand an average online conversation?

Please enlighten me!

This thread refers to another thread, by the way:

http://wakaba.c3.cx/soc/kareha.pl/1098886772

2 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-26 09:13 ID:+fos88Cg [Del]

>>1
Ok, let me. But first off, I have to tell you this:
Don't just use those expressions except when you
are on 2ch or related boards such as wakaba.
If you use them on other message systems
available in Japanese, you will come across as very bad.
I myself wouldn't use DQN and (ry when I e-mail my friends.

So, DQN stands for Do-kyu-m in Japanese, which means
A, someone foolish, mad, or out of their minds
B, someone with no or little knowledge on the topic other
2ch people are talking about.
C, someone who is a bit too childish to communicate with
others.etc.
Well, it's a little abusive expression, but
most of us think it deserves nuisances.

As for (ry, it sometimes is nearlly equal to "Blah-Blah-Blah" in English.
When you don't want to say something straightforward,
you can use (ry ,especially at the end of your sentences.
But there's another usage. When you respond to someone
such as a DQN and you want to imply
that you put (ry instead of what you really want to
say because it's obviously too common and boring to every reader except the DQN, you can use (ry.
So you need to tell which (ry means.

Did I make sense to you?

3 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-26 09:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

"DQN" is used to call the people with (unacceptable behavior/no education).
"(ry" on the other hand indicates the words after the point were omitted,
which is often used needlessly for humor.

4 名前: 3 2004-11-26 10:02 ID:Heaven [Del]

Sorry, I forgot to refresh the page before posting.

5 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-27 05:16 ID:afxs9c3w [Del]

In short, DQN is a person who behaves badly, acts illegally, or thinks immorally, etc.

6 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-27 15:36 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>2-5

I see, thank you for answering my questions! Are there any more general expressions one just has to know on 2ch and smiliar boards?

I also wonder how "DQN" became so popular. I read it was made famous by some guy's website (which I visited, it seems pretty amateur-ish) who was referring to some TV show. I don't understand how such big fame as the DQN phrase can be derived from that, but maybe it's just one of those silly internet fads.

For instance, in English, you often use abbrevations online. One would be OMG, short for "Oh My G'd!" (expression of shock). Now, on 4chan, it has been changed into zOMG. The additional z at the beginning has no real meaning, it was just said to be added to give away the impression that the person wanted to write OMG but was so hectic and careless with his writing, that his fingers just slipped over the z-key on the keyboard. And now people use "zOMG" to come intentionally off as stupid, or, in other words, DQN.

It is an interesting internet. Are there any English online idioms that you don't understand and would like to understand? I could try and explain them.

Also, "Wakaba" is an image board software, similiar to futaba. It was used on iichan.net, which is offline at the moment. "Kareha" is the software for the kind of message board system 4-ch uses. It has been written by the same author as Wakaba, !WAHa.06x36, who you can see post regularly here on 4-ch. At the bottom of each page here on 4-ch, there are links to his software.

7 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-27 17:28 ID:jVP9J7vA [Del]

I don' t know exactly how the word "DQN" became so popular, but I think this word sounds so fun because it (=dokyun) reminds many Japanese of the sound of a gun. It is easy to read, write and pronounce for the Japanese 2ch'er.
And I want to point out the fact that "DQN" can be changed into other expression. (in Katakana, ドキュン (dokyun) or ドキュソ(dokyuso))
2ch'er tends to change the word or phrase just like the example >>6 san provided us, and we are always looking for new words or phrases.

If my response can't help you, スマソ(=スマン or I'm sorry)

8 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-27 22:18 ID:Heaven [Del]

DQN comes from the title of an old TV program(目撃!ドキュン) that mainly shows people with a pitiful life.

9 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-28 00:18 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>6
ZOMG was previously used on SA; since all the 4chan founders came from SA, it spread.

10 名前: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-28 23:21 ID:4IrNthww [Del]

It seems that misspellings are TEH FUNNAY the world around.

11 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-28 23:36 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>10

People always crave something new, also in their ways of expression.
On the internet even more than in real life, developing a sophisticated new form of expression is too difficult for most. Changing small things like single letters, making puns with little economical-syntactical effort is the way to go for the masses.

12 名前: 7 2004-11-29 06:46 ID:Bn53l3gw [Del]

Oh, "fun" cannot be used as a adjective....
I should have written "this word sounds so funny" instead of "this word sounds so fun", right?
If so, that was my serious mistake, not the one we are talking about. orz

13 名前: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-29 12:09 ID:YuDZAaIg [Del]

In that sentence, yes, "funny" would be the right word. "Fun" and "funny" are tricky. "Funny" is what you laugh at, and "fun" is when you are enjoying yourself (like "tanoshii", I think). "Funny" can also mean "strange", though.

14 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-29 14:01 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>12

"Fun" can be used as an adjective!

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=fun

Main Entry: 3fun
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): sometimes fun·ner sometimes fun·nest
1 : providing entertainment, amusement, or enjoyment <a fun party> <a fun person to be with>
2 : full of fun <a fun night> <have a fun time>

But it's also an intransitive verb AND a noun. So it can get confusing, and the safe way would be to use "funny".

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16 名前: 14 2004-11-29 14:09 ID:Heaven [Del]

Although, I might want to add, fun and funny have slightly different connotations. "Fun" refers more to entertainment, amusement, enjoyment, while "funny" refers more to something ridiculous, something risible, or something strange, i.e. something that is anormal (but in a rather positive sense, or at least noteworthy anormal because it somehow violates the common sense of (expected) seriousness).

I cannot explain better, I am not a native speaker myself. orz

17 名前: 7 2004-11-29 15:51 ID:XDBzVbGQ [Del]

>>13-16

Thanks a lot!!!! m(__)m

In this connection, let me introduce the word "warota".
It used by 2ch'er when he/she feels "funny".

ワロタ(warota) comes from わらった(笑った = waratta = I laughed at)
For example, if you laughed at my comment, you can post this sentence below.

>>7
warota

In many cases, 2ch'er will be delighted when he/she is responded like above, because 2ch'er usually want to make you feel funny.

18 名前: Java 2004-11-30 16:17 ID:JfWCOdQA [Del]

>>2

So, tell me if I understand.

If someone says, "Why are these kind of pictures not allowed?" when it is clear why they are not allowed, I would respond, "(ry".

Or, if I was just posting, I could say, "Do you know what the best site in the world is? It's (ry" which implies the message was cut off.

It seems like DQN is equal to the word "n00b" in English slang.

>>17

ワロタ

19 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-30 16:57 ID:Heaven [Del]

I think (ry is more like our "etc". It seems, though, that (ry is more of a slang thing because in Japanese your sentences usually do not end like that and are more commonly expected to form a semantic unit that does not refer to something outside of the sentence ("etc" is short for "et cetera" which translates as "and the rest"). I could be wrong about this, though.

> It seems like DQN is equal to the word "n00b" in English slang.

No, I'd say "retard" is more like it.

20 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-30 17:37 ID:nvaUjzEQ [Del]

>>18

> It seems like DQN is equal to the word "n00b" in English slang.

go back to Fark

>>19

> It seems, though, that (ry is more of a slang thing

You're right, but it's also a joke, based on the fact that the kanji for the word which they are thinking of, "hobo" i.e. "etc.", is the same kanji used for "abbreviation", ryaku.

"warota" = laffo, or I lol'ed
"(w" = lol

21 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-30 17:39 ID:Heaven [Del]

> "hobo" i.e. "etc."

what

22 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-30 18:26 ID:2tgukDoA [Del]

hobo = (adv) almost, roughly, approximately

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25 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-30 18:46 ID:Heaven [Del]

Nevermind, I realized you are most likely talking about the Japanese word "hobo".

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28 名前: Japanese 2004-12-02 07:06 ID:dWgvnIyg [Del]

Hi,nice to meet you. I'm Japanese.I'm gonna tell you meaning of DQN. DQN (noun) someone who doesn't have purpose of their life,and they often do antisocial act;moreover,they have dissolute life.2ch'r call them DQN. My English is less,so I'm not sure you guys understand.Anyway,Thank you. See you later.

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30 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-02 14:28 ID:8Zqzs/6w [Del]

Your English is quite good.
Is it ok if I correct the small errors?
"Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Japanese. I'm gonna tell you the meaning of DQN. DQN (noun) is someone who doesn't have a purpose in his life, and he often does antisocial acts; moreover, he has a dissolute life. 2ch'rs call them DQN. My English is poor, so I'm not sure you guys understand. Anyway, thank you. See you later."

31 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-02 18:31 ID:Heaven [Del]

× and he often does antisocial acts
○ and he often commits antisocial acts

32 名前: Japanese 2004-12-03 02:13 ID:4AkuYZGg [Del]

Hi! I'm Japanese. Thank you guys correcting my grammar problem,and I could know my problems which are article,subject verb agreement.I'm going to check it again! Would you mind if I visit sometimes here for my English skill and fun? Thank you. You guys have a great day!!

33 名前: Japanese 2004-12-03 02:13 ID:4AkuYZGg [Del]

Hi! I'm Japanese. Thank you guys correcting my grammar problems,and I could know my problems which are article,subject verb agreement.I'm going to check it again! Would you mind if I visit sometimes here for my English skill and fun? Thank you. You guys have a great day!!

34 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-03 03:01 ID:uTLv96sA [Del]

× Thank you guys correcting my grammar problems
○ Thank you guys for correcting my grammar

× I could know my problems which are article,subject verb agreement
○ I know I have problems with the article and the subject-verb agreement

Yes, you can come back whenever you want. ヽ(・∀・)ノ

35 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-03 16:38 ID:KsTXkH6Q [Del]

How about the term: "abone"? Any relation to mahabone?

36 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-04 23:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

aborn→あぼーん→abone?

38 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-05 15:17 ID:Heaven [Del]

39 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-05 17:41 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

40 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-05 17:44 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

>>37
lol, "Go to heaven!!!"
Is that the Japanese equivalent of "Go to hell"?

41 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-05 19:16 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>39

I thought so myself, but now I am not too sure anymore:

http://academy3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1101529732/159-160

42 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-05 21:44 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

They are talking about SLEPT, not NETA.
NETA is very much in use, while SLEPT is rarely used if at all.

43 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-05 23:13 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>42

> "ネタ"(neta) means a story you make up either to amuse someone or decieve them.

44 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-05 23:34 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

http://www.ojr.org/japan/wireless/1062208524.php
In Japanese, "material" for news and stories is called "neta." The term has strong journalistic associations, but also gets used to describe material that can become the topic of conversation among friends or family: a new store seen on the way to work; a cousin who just dropped out of high school; a funny story heard on the radio. Camera phones provide a new tool for making these everyday neta not just verbally but also visually shareable.

As the mundane is elevated to a photographic object, the everyday is now the site of potential news and visual archiving. Sending camera-phone photos to major news outlets and moblogging are one end of a broad spectrum of everyday and mass photojournalism using camera phones. What counts as newsworthy, noteworthy and photo-worthy spans a broad spectrum from personally noteworthy moments that are never shared (a scene from an escalator) to intimately newsworthy moments to be shared with a spouse or lover (a new haircut, a child riding a bike). It also includes neta to be shared among family or peers (a friend captured in an embarrassing moment, a cute pet shot) and microcontent uploaded to blogs and online journals. The transformation of journalism through camera phones is as much about these everyday exchanges as it is about the latest headline.

45 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-05 23:37 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>38
日本語では『利己的な遺伝子』の日本語訳から、そのままカタカナで「ミーム」と言います。

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47 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-05 23:47 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

meme n.

A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.

[Shortening (modeled on gene), of mimeme from Greek mimma, something imitated, from mimeisthai, to imitate.]

48 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-05 23:58 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

In summary:
neta = a news item.
meme = a transmitted piece of info.

Now, news implies a transmission.
Therefore, neta = meme.

49 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-06 06:53 ID:Heaven [Del]

ネタ can mean alot of things. for comedians neta=material. In sushi-terminology neta=the part of the sushi that isnt rice (the meat or main ingredient). In both cases i think its used pretty interchangeably with 材料. Some people say its derived rom タネ or 種 which means seed. So rather than implying transmission or dispersion i think it has more to do with the ネタ being the base material or the root from which something sprouts (as in a gag or news item or business model).

50 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-06 10:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Now, news implies a transmission.
> Therefore, neta = meme.

I think the implication within the term "news" does not justify the kind of generalization you made. Seems like a syllogistic fallacy to me.

>>45

"Selfish gene" (利己的な遺伝子) is a funny term, but makes sense somehow. Also, ミーム seems to refer precisely to what "meme" signifies:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9F%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0
http://www.es.dis.titech.ac.jp/~park/book/meme.html

Now the next question is: What ENGLISH word is there for NETA?

51 名前: asciic!gy8a4NxnD2 2004-12-06 11:20 ID:ljr0U+8A [Del]

"meme" has a very broad meaning, that's why it's such a fun word. "news" might be a subset of "meme", but they're not the same thing.

> What ENGLISH word is there for NETA?

origin
basis
root
meat
seed
core
source plz
starting point
factoid
...well, probably none of those, but something along those lines. How about "content"?

52 名前: Anonymous 2004-12-06 12:19 ID:Heaven [Del]

Doesn't 元ネタ=origin or source? Or is it just being redundant?

53 名前: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-06 13:55 ID:ITz5aWsA [Del]

JWPce dictionary defines NETA as:
(n)  
 (1) material, joke material, contents, proof,
 (2) topping of nigiri sushi

54 名前: Congruent 2004-12-09 06:27 ID:KHT44f/A [Del]

>>17
Funny has two meanings. It can mean 'strange,' [変] or 'amusing' [面白い/おかしい].
Fun only has one meaning - it means 'enjoyable' or 'entertaining' [たのしい].
説明以上だ!多分間違った!

55 名前: Anonymous 04/12/19(Sun)16:22 ID:Heaven [Del]

http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1100730775/16
16 名前: Anonymous 2004-11-25 15:48 ID:/547jK7A [Del]

Let me introduce some specialized vocabulary used by 2ch'er.

逝ってよし!! (Itteyoshi!! = Go away!!)
オマエモナー!(Omaemonar = You too!!)

Only with these two words, you can enjoy the 2ch world.

But if you use these words, you will never be able to return the right side of the life...

素人にはお勧めできない (Shiroutoniha osusume dekinai = We cannot recommend it to right person.)

http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1100730775/23


23 名前: Anonymous 04/12/19(Sun)14:50 ID:RTQf6wYz [Del]

>>16
>逝ってよし!! (Itteyoshi!! = Go away!!)

逝ってよし has some complex meanings ,or rather, has some hidden meanings.

If you're a japanese and hear it without seeing the chinese character used in it,
then you will think it means "you may go" ,or "go away" in a less dominant imperative.
But if you read it while seeing the chinese character,
it means "you may kill yourself" or "kill yourself".

You can use this phrase when someone posts a silly remark or
asserts something with lame evidence.

note: "行く(iku)" means "to go", "逝く(iku)" means "to die".

56 名前: Anonymous 04/12/20(Mon)07:36 ID:Heaven [Del]

クソスレ (KUSOSURE) = Shitty thread, stupid thread, a thread that serves no other purpose than being a place for trolling and flaming.

57 名前: Anonymous 04/12/21(Tue)03:46 ID:athvYvGo [Del]

>>53
The definetions may be hard to understand, don't they?
So let me give you a quick explanation of where
those meanings come from. I will write in English
if you don't understand what's written below in Japanese.
That's because
it takes me long to write a somehow complicated
thing like this because of my poor English.

ネタっていうのは俗語的な使われ方で、元々は
種(タネ)のことなんです。
日本人は、例えば寿司ネタとか話のネタとかよく言いますが、
元々は寿司のタネ・話のタネといいます
(実際にはネタのほうがよく使われていますが)。
ですから、人と話すときのテーマを、話のネタと呼ぶのも
元々が種(seed)に由来するのだと知っておくと分かりやすくなるかも
しれません。種から話が育つというわけです。
転じて、人を騙すような話をネタと呼ぶようになったのだと思います。
次に寿司に関しての私の見解です。特に五目寿司を作るときに酢飯に
混ぜ込む具材のことをタネと呼ぶのですが、これも
まるで地面に植物の種をまくときと同じように酢飯に具材を
まくので、そこに由来しているのではないかと思います。
確証はないので、今後調べてみて正しいことが分かったら
お知らせします。

58 名前: Anonymous 04/12/21(Tue)04:19 ID:Heaven [Del]

てか、>>49さんが説明してた模様。
読んでなかった・・・ orz
逝って来るよ。

59 名前: l3reakManX 04/12/25(Sat)16:39 ID:1uQDc9RW [Del]

What is Saitama

60 名前: Anonymous 04/12/25(Sat)17:23 ID:HPPPoFFI [Del]

Saitama is the capital of Japan.
It's the most popular city where sophisticated poeple live.

61 名前: Anonymous 04/12/25(Sat)17:32 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>59

Saitama is a prefecture in Japan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saitama_Prefecture

Historically, a lot of funny & weird news come from Saitama.

How this gave birth to this AA meme, I do not know,
I think it has something to do with a logo for the
capital (of the same name) or the prefecture itself
which looks the same:

http://kao.wakachan.net/r/src/1104003091783.jpg

AA & related info:
http://aa.2ch.net/mona/kako/1033/10339/1033912516.html
http://4-ch.net/ascii/kareha.pl/1100242956/6-

62 名前: 61 04/12/25(Sat)17:55 ID:Heaven [Del]

64 名前: Anonymous 04/12/29(Wed)16:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

http://amatias.hp.infoseek.co.jp/
http://miharu63.at.infoseek.co.jp/saitama2005/
http://www.geocities.jp/aa3108jp/


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                 / ̄\  / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
               ─( ゚ ∀ ゚ )< さいたまさいたま!
                 \_/  \_________
                / │ \
                    ∩ ∧ ∧∩ / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
 ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄\ ∩∧ ∧∩\( ゚∀゚)< さいたまさいたまさいたま!
さいたま〜〜〜〜! >( ゚∀゚ )/ |    / \__________
________/ |    〈 |   |
              / /\_」 / /\」
               ̄     / /
                    ̄

66 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/04(Tue)20:26 ID:Heaven [Del]

What's "Uruse hage" and "manse"?

67 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/09(Sun)13:37 ID:Heaven [Del]

I'm worried about how long 4-ch can survive. Why do so few post?

68 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/11(Tue)04:31 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>66
Using "Uruse hage" is very rude even on the net.
It is like a curse.
"Uruse" means "shut up, don't disturb me, shut your big mouth"
or whatever(anyway very rude).
"hage" means bald as an adjective. As a noun
You can call someone
who's bald "hage" as well(Very offensive indeed).
On the other hand, "manse" is not the Japanese language.
It's Korean, meaning "I'll say, I couldn't agree more" or
something like that, I think.
The reason why some Japanese people use it online is because
they've watched on the tube that North Korean people
obey anything their leader commands, saying "Manse".
It's because of the autocracy of North Korea, I think...

69 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/12(Wed)09:19 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>68

Thank you for clearing that up for me. That was very educational indeed.

70 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/16(Sun)00:13 ID:Heaven [Del]

I see the phrase "うp" very often on Japanese BBS. What does it mean?

71 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/16(Sun)02:00 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>70
When you type "うp", you push "U" and "P" on your keyboard.
So "うp" is "up".
And when they say "うp", it means they ask someone
to "up"load photos/music/articles or whatever.

In a nutshell, うp means uploading such a thing.

72 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/16(Sun)23:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>71

Thank you very much. You have been of great help to me!

73 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/17(Mon)10:05 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>72
Anytime.

74 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/10(Thu)22:08 ID:Heaven [Del]

I have come across "UMA" some times now. It seems like it is used to characterize something weird or unusual, but I am not sure. Can anyone shed any light on this?

75 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/12(Sat)10:34 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>74
Is it a kind of Japanese acronym?
Honestly, I've never seen it..
I guess I can be of help, if you let me get the context of
how UMA was used, as long as it's Japanese.

And when I wrote the above, something sprung to mind.
Is it "(゚Д゚)ウマー"? that you meant?
If so, I can tell you what it's like.

So Uma- often means one's feelings(often a very positive ones),
such as when some food hits the spot, tastes delicious,
or has a good flavour to the extent that you want to shout,
"I love it!", "Very delicious!!" or something like that.
And another meaning is that what's happened is very favorable
to you and you love the situation, so you want to shout,
"It's veeery nice!!", "It couldn't be better!" or what not.
Anyway, both of the usages are slangy, though.

Sorry if I took you wrong.

76 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/19(Sat)09:12 ID:Heaven [Del]

Think this thread is useful.

77 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/19(Sat)13:15 ID:2nZo6VYJ [Del]

>>71

うn

78 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 05/02/19(Sat)21:48 ID:Heaven [Del]

I have a question too: what means 「萌える」?

For example the phrase:
このスレめちゃめちゃ萌える。
kono sure mechamecha houeru.
==> "This confused thread buds." ??

79 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/19(Sat)23:53 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>78
Hmm, that's a tough question to answer,
because 萌える has mistakenly been used online,
especially on 2ch, as a result of which the wrong
usage spread offline in Japan.
So I believe the online usage of 萌える is hard to find
in the Japanese dictionaries, let alone in the ones
for Japanese learners.

Anyway, 萌える originally(rightly) means burgeon.
But as you see, we use that word to express our feelings,
for instance, "I love sth because it's very pretty/cute/
interesting". it's used very humorously.
You don't want to say it when people are serious.
Note: this expression also implies sexuality (also humorous).

Did I make myself clear?

80 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/20(Sun)00:27 ID:Heaven [Del]

And let me make a comment on your sample sentence.
First 萌える is pronounced moeru.

The sencence makes me think he/she loved the thread
to the extent they were highly motivated/
horribly haunted to keep posting on it/reading it,
because the thread was extremely to their taste.

And I'm sorry they sound not well-educated to me if
they often use 萌える (of course, I know they may be
just kidding, though).

81 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/20(Sun)02:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

Sorry to post three times in a row, but
I think it's better to explain about one more word(めちゃめちゃ)
so that you can understand the sentence more clearly.

So めちゃめちゃ is used mainly in three ways(all of them very slangy).
A) (as an adverb) really, extremely, all too, or something like that
Sample:"めちゃめちゃ良い" means "really good"
B) (as an adjective)(in head)confused, deluded, messed up, etc.
Sample:"頭の中がめちゃめちゃだ" means "I'm confused"
C) (as an adjective)(about things such as a place), littered with sth, in disorder, messed up, etc.
Sample:"部屋がめちゃめちゃだ" means "My room is messed up".

82 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 05/02/20(Sun)05:56 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>79-81
Thank you very much.
I'll translate the sentence as "This excellent thread is hot."

83 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/21(Mon)00:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>75

Context: magical.m0ds.jp/futaba/uma/imgboard.htm
(Replace m0ds with mods. Sorry, that one particular link is still in a spam database @ http://wakaba.c3.cx/antispam/ - I took it out, but it still needs to be updated on here)

Your explanation does make sense anyway, thanks for that. I just can't come up with a single English term that would be equivalent to it, though.

84 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 05/02/21(Mon)01:19 ID:Heaven [Del]

My next question: what means「ブッチギリ」?
Example:
ええ。ブッチギリです!
ee . bucchigiri desu !

85 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/21(Mon)02:07 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>84
Where did you take the sample from, anyway?:)

As an adjective, ブッチギリ sounds to me
very informal and a bit old (sometimes humorous),
meaning "going farther than the point that others expect", "winning sth such as a race completely", "doing something far better than expected", "dominant" or whatever.

The point is, you can use ブッチギリ
when you do something far too enough so
nobody can catch up with you and they are left far behind.
I hear the expression, such as when a marathon runner
wins a race a minute or two before another runner is finished:
彼/彼女はブッチギリで優勝しました.

86 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/21(Mon)02:22 ID:Heaven [Del]

And it's usually used in a affirmative way like
I said above.
If you use ブッチギリ in a negative way, however,
you're very sarcastic.
A sample context: if your friends and
you watch a baseball game together and
your favarite team is beaten by 10-0 and you get very mad
at and derogatory to the team, you can say to your friends(who
may love the opposite team), "今日はブッチギリで負けたよ".

87 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/21(Mon)02:45 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>82
Sounds great!
You're very concise and to the point!

If I were a good translater, I could think up expressions
that sound natural to English-speaking people.
All I can do is explain wordily.

88 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 05/02/21(Mon)14:11 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>85
Thanks.

>Where did you take the sample from, anyway?:)
It's from siokara.ath.cx/sio/res/1108881907478g.htm
Post No.289994.

89 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/26(Sat)15:51 ID:Heaven [Del]

仏恥義理

90 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-11 01:15 ID:JCwqSqSP

Question:
What does レロレロ mean? (rero/relo/lelo/lero?)
http://kao.wakachan.net/r/res/894.html
Dizzy? Drunk? Head is spinning?

91 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-11 01:29 ID:Heaven

>>90
You guessed right.

I guess it comes from this expression ろれつが回らない, meaning
somebody got so drunk that they don't pronunce clearly or
what they say makes no sense.

92 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-11 01:41 ID:Heaven

And レロレロ may sound like "dedo dedo" in English.
I mean the "Flap T sound" like ta in 'wha"t a"re you doing?'.

93 名前: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-03-11 02:41 ID:JCwqSqSP

Thanks. I'll use "inarticulated speech" for my translation. Or maybe "mumble-mumble".

94 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-11 05:07 ID:Heaven

>>93
Don't mention it.
I'd say "mumble-mumble" suits the manga, because レロレロ is what's called a imitative word.

95 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-15 05:03 ID:LPWMzKDX

>>83
UMA = Unidentified Mysterious Animal

96 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-15 22:57 ID:Heaven

What' 『マジか』?

97 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-15 23:31 ID:LPWMzKDX

>>96
are you serious?

98 名前: 96 2005-03-16 00:26 ID:Heaven

Yes, I am.

99 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-16 06:55 ID:ebhsl5Ym

that was an answer, not a question

100 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-16 07:01 ID:Heaven

Are you kidding?

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