The English Chat Room (446)

1 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/22(Sat)20:52 ID:Heaven [Del]


∧_∧ In this thread, you can talk English with each other.
( ・ω・)  Let's drink tea together and chat about this and that.
(つ旦0 Ramble, communicate, have fun!
と_)__) The native speakers will bring the cookies.

297 名前: AZ : 2008-03-05 17:52 ID:HsZlnhNR

I'm sort of a recluse, but I talk to people a lot. Unfortunately, when I talk to women, I don't know whether or not I'm holding their attention. I think I'm boring...

298 名前: jenny55972002 : 2008-03-06 06:43 ID:PobCQFsD

>>296 Hi, it's been along time my friend, how are you doing, sorry if it took so long to reply. Elephant ROCKS ^_^

299 名前: Elephant : 2008-03-16 10:25 ID:3a1Ur8vD

I am in Sydney Australia. where are you?

300 名前: jenny55972002 : 2008-03-17 00:59 ID:PobCQFsD

>>299 Hey, I'm in Mount Vernon,Washington (USA) ^_^

301 名前: jenny55972002 : 2008-03-17 01:01 ID:PobCQFsD

>>299 How are you doing ^_^, it's been along time since i've on here, but i finally have more time.

302 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-03-17 02:02 ID:Z0cK6lab

big one and piss isn't food so don't eat lol

303 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-03-17 09:31 ID:eNoy382o

>>301
What is the figures after your name?
Do you have to call out all of them when I call your name?
If so, I don't wnat to make friends with you because calling your name will make me exhausted all the time. lol

304 名前: 303 : 2008-03-17 10:57 ID:eNoy382o

Oh, my... I made a terrible mistake !

Correction
>>301

What are the figures after your name?
Do I have to call out all of them when I call your name?
If so, I don't want to make friends with you because calling your full name will make me feel exhausted.

305 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-03-18 01:15 ID:S21zbhmr

>>304
I don't think jenny55972002 really cares if you type out all the numbers after her name. I don't think anyone would expect you to do so.

306 名前: jenny : 2008-03-18 06:00 ID:PobCQFsD

>>305 Is this more convenient?, shortened my screen name.

307 名前: Elephant : 2008-03-18 13:07 ID:3a1Ur8vD

is Mount Vernon a mountain jenny :D?

308 名前: jenny : 2008-03-20 00:29 ID:PobCQFsD

>>307 No, But I Live north of the city of Seattle, But there is alot of mountains around where i live Mount vernon is a city :D

309 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-03-22 14:14 ID:Heaven

>>302 Kids, never eat trains, especially ones which can fly in space. Your dentist will hate you forever.

310 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-06 08:42 ID:IuL7/8zA

Apparently I can't post to 2ch any longer. Great.

As far as I can tell, the error message I'm getting says "Foreign domain restricted (.se) ... Use a 2ch viewer." -- would that mean that the whole .se top level domain is blocked? Or should I read this as "Your domain, which is in .se, is blocked."?

Annoying, either way. I guess I'll have to try and find a proxy now.

311 名前: Casey : 2008-04-06 11:11 ID:i5uyH9QA

Hello. I'm a new user of this board. Please excuse me if I make a faux pas.

Anyway, is it true that Niconico douga has a "narrower" audience than Youtube? That is, unlike with Youtube, most of the people who go to Niconico douga are the same kind of person? As a person who spends most of his life in front of the computer, these sorts of useless facts interest me.

I don't know if I'm wording my question in an understandable way, so I'll apologize in advance for any confusion.

312 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-06 13:43 ID:Heaven

>>310 Do not panic, this is just a technology-based extension to the "no gaijins allowed" signs which have been popular for years, a hallmark of perhaps the most racist nation in the world.

313 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-06 14:07 ID:Heaven

>>312
Well, maybe. It's understandable that certain large ISPs who generate a large amount of crap would be blocked. But a whole country? Or my tiny local ISP? Makes no sense.

314 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-07 08:49 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>310
I am a regular Neet poster in 2ch's "chat in English" thread.

I want you to come back there by findig a good way, although
I don't know much about proxy things.

The more people who are interested in Japanese gather there, the more fun the place gets.

315 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-07 09:05 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>311
I searched for info about it on the net, and found the niconico douga's press release.

Acording to that, as of March 20th 2008, subscribers of niconico douga has reached 6 million people.

If you can read Japanese, check here.
http://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/2008/03/001026.html

Niconico's users are limited almost to Japanese people so it's natural that users of niconico are far less than youtube users. Niconico is based on Japanese language only while youtube is based on English, which is the language whose speakers are a lot more than Japanese speakers and youyube is doing localization which means if you access youtube from Japan, the pages of youtube are shown basically in Japanese. If you access it from China, then pages are shown in Chinese.

Even if you live in US, if you change settings then pages of youtube can be seen in your preferable language, say, Italian or whatever.

316 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-07 20:32 ID:H15d7W2m

>>314
I saw that you reposted >>310 to "Chat in English" - thank you!

It seems that posting from university does not work, and I'm not having much luck with proxies either. Most 2ch viewers won't work, since I don't run Windows. (I'm not sure how that would help anyway.)

There are a couple of other things to try, but it doesn't seem very promising. Ah well. Maybe the block will be lifted...

317 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-08 00:32 ID:B90V0Lfe

>>310

Another English poster here and I'm getting the same error. It seems like a recent thing as I was able to post just a few days ago.

318 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-08 03:31 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>316
Ah, you saw my post there!

>>316-317
I don't know why 2ch block users from overseas. Maybe 2ch's servers can't handle traffic from overseas anymore? Or some people from overseas cyber attack 2ch so access from overseas started to be banned?

One American 2ch user in youtube board of 2ch all of a sudden
was denied access to 2ch a few days ago. Below is a post by a Japanese giving him advice in which he tells him three ways to be able to access 2ch again, The post is the same as >>97 of
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1207506976/
I tried translate it in English.
-------------------
There are only three ways. C
Change your ISP or buy a 2ch viewer, or look for proxy thatis not banned by 2ch.

http://2ch.tora3.net/
The URL above is not "2ch.net" but it is 2ch's official website and not suspicious. The website says "2ch viewer" but in this case it doesn't mean 2ch exclusive use browser but it's more like a "Right to use 2ch." Even if you buy this right, you can't access to 2ch with IE or Firefix so the "right" comes with 2ch exclusive use browser.

・N.T.Technology
This is a company that manage 2ch's servers.
Most of 2ch's servers are in USA.
This company also manages 2ch's viewer(=●)
Jim from N.T.Technology PIE
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=CHWi2-R0uM0
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=JitcAwajlNA
----------------------------------------------
I don't think you'll bother change your ISP just to post in 2ch. Plus, there's no guarantee that 2ch'll accept access from your new ISP. ● costs 350yen(3.5USD) a month or if you pay yearly fee in sigle payment then US$33.00.

Looking for proxies seems the best idea. I don't know much about proxy things but I heard some proxies are already banned by 2ch. So it may not be easy to find a effective proxy.
Or as you say, just wait until 2ch lift blocks.
Anyway, I hope you guys can post in 2ch again soon!

319 名前: Casey : 2008-04-08 05:58 ID:i5uyH9QA

>>315
That's not quite what I meant--I was not asking about the number of people who visit niconico douga, but the type of people.

For example, perhaps I am incorrect, but: from the comments, those on niconico douga seem much more pleasant than those on youtube.

Then again, I could be incorrect--perhaps it only seems that way because I visit youtube more often, and thus have seen more impolite comments.

320 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-08 07:09 ID:Heaven

I just posted to 2ch a minute ago with no problems. I'm in the US, by the way.

Maybe it's just certain boards where you can't post, or it may be a temporary thing.

321 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-08 07:15 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>319
Now I understand what you meant.

Well, niconico douga's videos have their shares of abusive comments, too. (alothough, that depends on videos you watch, I guess.) Actually, I was surprised to read that you think niconico video has better comments from users than youtube.

I don't watch youtube videos posted by people other than Japanese people often so maybe I don't know much about comments
posted on videos by American or British or whatever. But as far as comments on videos posted by Japanese people, they are less abusive than those of niconico's. That's my impression. It's fuynny that you and I have exact opposit impression on these two
movie websites.

This may not be off the track of your question but I'm under the impression that niconico has more dense population of Japanese Otaku people and more anime related videos. This my be because niconico's people tend to double as 2channelers.

But as the statistics show that nicinico's subscribers has reached 6 million, people other than otaku actually has subscribed to it, it seems. In case of 2channel, too, it's otaku population was dense at the early stage of the forum but now general people (people other than otaku) use it, too.

But Both 2channel and niconico still have big influence of otaku people intact in my opinion.

322 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-08 09:26 ID:Heaven

>>317
Where are you (posting) from? You said "English poster", but I guess you mean the English board. Come to think about it, I haven't seen イギリス人さん posting in a while either.

>>318
Thank you for the tips. I believe a proxy would be best, but it seems that all proxys I can find are blocked. (Or they just don't work.) I'll try posting from an ISP in the .com or .net domains next.

>>320
Yeah, I can see US posters all the time. The problem is that as far as I can tell, my entire country is blocked - and this is on the "English" board, which is about the only place I really can post, given that I'm really just at beginner level Japanese.

323 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-08 13:01 ID:H0ukWGJh

When I went to Italy I could post to 2ch,No prob.
Many Japanese living in Europe and USA or another country,
always post 2ch.

324 名前: Elephant : 2008-04-08 13:31 ID:MSpIt3a8

:) i need some sleep

326 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-08 23:41 ID:f+KRMZPD

>>322

I'm posting from the United States in the English board. Well I guess trying to post would be a better way of saying it.

327 名前: lonelykid (PF-Y75) : 2008-04-10 10:56 ID:JuVOcUtB

288 here,

Things didn't turnout so well. I don't think i can actually care/love for a girl because i get too jealous and i need attention a lot. I'm a HUGE stalker as well. :(

Meh, she was boring anyway.

328 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-10 18:42 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>327
Do you find yourself becoming less and less socialized during your reclusive time?

I mean, if you don't talk much, your communication skills worse and worse from my experience and think like celf-centered.

Going out with a girl vertually on the net or not help you have
socializing experiencess, so I would say you should take advantages of that kind of occasions.

Sorry if I sound judgemental but, before you say going out with a girl is not your cup of tea, you should try it. Just live and learn while you are still young.

329 名前: Casey : 2008-04-11 06:59 ID:i5uyH9QA

>>327
Pretend to be a protagonist from a visual novel.

Those guys are usually pillars of morality, often to a ridiculous extent, right?

330 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-16 21:32 ID:IuL7/8zA

I see people are talking about the blocking issue right now.
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 112

Is anyone else here in Sweden, and have you been able to post there lately? It would be nice to know if it's the whole .se top domain that is blocked, or not. (So far I've tried three different ISPs, and my university, with no luck.)

>>314 Still here? Say hello from me.

331 名前: Elephant : 2008-04-19 11:46 ID:MSpIt3a8

Jenny is the coolest poster :D

332 名前: 米男 : 2008-04-19 14:19 ID:pPyhYghz

HELLO JAPANESE
I AM HAPPY YANKEE

333 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-19 15:44 ID:eNoy382o

YOU ARE A LIAR!

334 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-21 12:41 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>330
Yeah, I'm here. I'll copy and pate your post there.
Hmmm... You tried more than 3 ISPs and sitll no luck...
Maybe 2ch seems to be having a tough approach to posters from overseas...

Some days ago, 2ch was threatned by DDOS attacks from Korean ISPs and didn't function. The attack seemed to be done aiming at the busiest time for 2ch, which is at night. I heard that it took a few hours for 2ch to get on the normal track.

I heard 2ch had similar collective attacks from China, too.
Sweden has nothing to do with those attacks so I don't understand why accesses from Sweden or maybe from other countries are blocked.

I hope you'll be able to post as before as soon as possible.

335 名前: イギリス人 : 2008-04-21 13:12 ID:Heaven

>>330
I'm still able to post fine, just haven't been so active
lately due to work. We had a discussion about why it may not
be letting some foreigners post, but apparently no specific
countries are blocked. One guy was saying that 2ch just didn't
like open proxies, and that some ISPs have a problem because
of them, but I still don't see how that really has anything to
do with it.

Some people have been saying that 2ch reader apps can sometimes
get around these blocks, so have you tried any of those? I don't
really see how that would work either, but I guess it's worth a try.
http://janestyle.s11.xrea.com/

336 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-21 14:18 ID:IuL7/8zA

The error I'm getting is 「海外ドメイン規制(se)。」. To me that looks like a block on the whole country. (But I'm just at beginner level, so...)

>>334
I'll be back, but it might take some time.

>>335
Yes - I was fearing the worst for a while, but it's nice to see that you can still post.

Didn't you need a US$ 30/year subscription too, to get around domain blocks? That's what I thought from the discussion, and some Googling. Besides, I need to find a reader that works for Unix, I don't even have Windows at home.

337 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-21 15:35 ID:Heaven

>>336
I use this on Linux: http://jd4linux.sourceforge.jp/

I have no idea how any reader would help you with blocks though.

338 名前: イギリス人 : 2008-04-21 15:39 ID:Heaven

>>336
Argh... it does sound like a countrywide block. Though I'm
wondering if it's just that your hostname ends in .se, rather
than .net, .com, etc. Perhaps your ISP changed the hostname
format, which might be why it came into effect out of the
blue.

As for the 2ch 'Gold Account', that's right, it's about $30
(from http://2ch.tora3.net/) and seems to be a sort of
white-listing service. As for readers, so far I've only found
a Windows one (Jane Style) and a Mac/OS one (Thousand), but
will have a search and try to find a Unix-compatible one.

339 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-21 16:21 ID:IuL7/8zA

>>337
I only have a vague idea, but I think you need a reader to use the subscription service. Or something.

>>338
It is most likely the fact that I have .se hostname, yes... And as far as I can tell, it hasn't changed.

The good news is that I have to change ISPs soon anyway, so it's only a matter of finding one that uses a .net or .com domain for its customers instead. Hopefully. Paying for 2ch seems a little weird for someone like me who can't really post anything intelligent in 99% of all threads. (Yet.)

340 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-24 13:03 ID:Heaven

I'm posting from .sg and every single time, no matter what board, I always get this message
書きこみが終わりました。

画面を切り替えるまでしばらくお待ち下さい。

and it never changes. And the post is never made.I simply have no way of getting around this, I tried using 2ch browsers but it didn't help either. Wargh!

Here, have a double chocolate chip cookie I got from Subway's... つ●

341 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-26 02:49 ID:h4ldE7Gt

ムシャムシャ
                    (`・ω・´)
                   (ノ●\)

>>340
Have you ever tried and click your browser's "back" botton
to get back to the thread after the message are shown?

After getting back to the thread in which you're posting your comment, click "reload" botton, then, you can check your comment
is posted or not.

I haven't used 2ch browsers and I am Japanese posting from Japan
so what I worte above mey not help you, though.

342 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-27 03:24 ID:Heaven

>>341

Of course I did that, I'd refresh the thread to see if my post appeared... 100% of the time, it doesn't appear. No matter how many times I repost. It's like the "書き込みが終わりました" is a lie!

I wonder if it's to do with the way the ISPs configure internet connections here, they put large groups of users under one big proxy server (I'm bad at understanding how internet connections work but it's like how a huge amount of people end up having the same address)

Glad you enjoyed the cookie, I liked it too. I treated myself to a small bag of handmade Famous Amos cookies, but I finished eating it (´・ω・`)

343 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-27 11:58 ID:JIWtCab/

Bored, bored, bored.

344 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-04-28 11:03 ID:IuL7/8zA

>>342
It sounds like a trick to confuse spambots.

Do you get the same thing if you try to post from somewhere else? (work/school, friend)

345 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-29 08:45 ID:Heaven

>>344

Yeah :( I've tried internet cafes, schools, friends' houses... same error.

I managed to post there ONCE using a Canadian proxy they hadn't picked up on yet. Next time I tried they detected it.

346 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-04-30 13:43 ID:ZCTHkK2S

Wait....so 2ch blocks all foreign IPs? I just went into 2ch and saw a bunch of threads on some board.

347 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-01 04:16 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>346
As far as I know, even if your IP is blocked, you can see threads but you can't post if your IP is blocked.

I don't think all foreign IPs are blocked. Some people from overseas can post.

348 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-02 12:49 ID:/tmO9oEG

hey wassup,bullshit vanila ice!
I'm Fuckin' monkey!
nice to meet u!

349 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-03 07:43 ID:Heaven

Yeah, thank god they don't block IPs from viewing threads. I'd be at a bit of a loss if they didn't, thanks to so much discussion being centered in 2ch...

I wonder if there will ever be a day when 2ch really dies and fragments the Japanese online community into little pieces...

350 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-03 11:16 ID:h4ldE7Gt

Even if 2ch died, chances are there'd be another similar forum would show up.

Basically 2ch is a website owned by one individual so if he gets
bored, then he might sell the right of running 2ch to anyone
who are interested. The amount of money would be huge.

351 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-05 18:49 ID:1eCElT0j

>>1

Hi. I first time here, and I have some question: how you all create this nice mmm... figure like that:

∧_∧
( ・ω・)
(つ旦0
と_)__)

352 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-06 11:05 ID:CkBrpR55

353 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-05-06 20:32 ID:IuL7/8zA

>>351
Depends a little on what you mean by "create", I guess.

A quick intro, with some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_JIS_art

There is a FAQ thread in the AA board which might be helpful:
http://4-ch.net/ascii/kareha.pl/1104923197

354 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-09 22:02 ID:ULpDka4G

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355 名前: 米男 : 2008-05-10 17:43 ID:pPyhYghz

>>354
I agree.

356 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-12 23:44 ID:m0mvD3Ri

357 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-13 13:56 ID:ywzlIXTg

>>127
holy fuck

i fucking live in mount vernon, washington

in before 4-ch meetup

私の名前はトレバーです。

358 名前: Sleeper : 2008-05-13 16:34 ID:QotuhFFJ

>>356
Pretty awful article in that link.
But is there anyone who can say something more to that? Like "Yes it is all truth." or "No it's absolutely wrong because ..."

359 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-14 09:42 ID:hMSqWb6k

>>356

beautifully written, but somewhat misinformed on various aspects of culture

But I cannot say I wholly disagree with it.

360 あぼーん

361 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-22 12:57 ID:Heaven

Lessee if I can post here...

362 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-22 13:02 ID:Heaven

I can. But still can't post anywhere else on 2ch... damn.

363 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-24 07:03 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>362
Are you スウェーデン人?

Anyway seems like some people who access to 2ch from overseas
are having trouble. 2ch denies access from some ISP of overseas
as far as I know.

Good luck.

364 名前: スウェーデン人 : 2008-05-24 21:44 ID:Heaven

>>363
No, 361-362 is someone else (with the same problem).

>>362
I can't post on the English board, but some other boards apparently work fine. Unfortunately my Japanese is pitiful, so I still can't contribute anything -- or even understand much.

I'll try and work up the courage to post in a "Chat in Japanese" thread I saw recently...

365 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-25 06:36 ID:Heaven

366 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-25 11:47 ID:h4ldE7Gt

>>364
Banning accesses from overseas is rediculous.
I know cyber attacks from China, Korea and maybe other countries happen sometime, though....

English board especially shouldn't ban accesses from overseas. It has to be a place where people from various countires mingle and have fun.

Good luck to スウェーデン人, too.

367 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-25 15:43 ID:92pm8CJR

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368 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-05-28 04:18 ID:Heaven

I think for me it just has to do with the way the internet is set up. There's some kind of proxy thing by default... I guess 2ch doesn't welcome it like that.

The only other way is to buy moritapo or whatever it's called to have proper posting access. No way I'm paying $ to post on 2ch or look at old topics though.

369 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-06-14 02:01 ID:ax/5Uj7O

Sweden-jin, here?

I want to ask your opinion of this video
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=UhNDc-HwjFo&feature=related

370 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-06-14 16:09 ID:VqK7z1Xu

テスト うほ

371 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-06-15 02:50 ID:H/PhtxP7

I brought the cookies!!! Who wants the chocolate chip?

372 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-06-18 05:27 ID:h4ldE7Gt

You don't have to buy them.
Lots of cookies are in your PC.

373 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-06-18 05:27 ID:h4ldE7Gt

You don't have to buy them.
Lots of cookies are in your PC.

374 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-06-30 09:27 ID:+me4hQiQ

DSFARGEG

375 あぼーん

376 あぼーん

377 名前: Elephant : 2008-07-21 11:15 ID:ckbjz/Wg

:) i'm back. is jenny back too :) :) ? :)

378 名前: Michael : 2008-07-23 14:01 ID:Mfevy5do

I am a Chinese and living in China now. In this year, Japanese studying was bagun. now. i hope I will have a travel in few years later. Of course, I will be good at Japanese speaking at that time. Welcome email to me. email: hehout@yahoo.com.cn

379 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-07-23 15:59 ID:NpY0TGNP

>>369

A song that sucks, big time..

380 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-07-23 18:35 ID:RiqsKVJq

How often do people post here?

381 名前: gonzales : 2008-07-24 13:13 ID:UxRr/HOT

hello

382 名前: Sohma : 2008-07-25 21:19 ID:Heaven

>>Michael

It's nice to you!

I am studying CSCI in California, so I know learning foreign language is tough. But if you think Japanese is cool and worth to learn, I apreciate.

Unfortunately, some Chinese, Korean, and Japanese Netizens hate each other. On the other hand, many Japanese people will welcome you.

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383 名前: yuinyii : 2008-07-27 15:57 ID:lVl4V58K

hello

384 名前: heh man!fi.Jek4HW6 : 2008-08-29 00:34 ID:Xjc+Qi/N

bump

385 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-09-07 10:13 ID:j1mC6Kbx

Call me a master of hikikomori

386 名前: Sohma : 2008-09-07 16:27 ID:Heaven

Hey, what's up the master of hikikomori?

387 名前: Elephant : 2008-09-16 11:11 ID:LQP3Fugj

Looks like da jenny aint back for a while :P

388 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-09-17 12:03 ID:FJeAOqb6

>>381

>ID:UxRr/HOT

389 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-09-18 12:29 ID:rSz3AN/M

Wow, that is a 神ID indeed.

390 名前: Micchan : 2008-09-24 20:48 ID:Heaven

I wanted to improve my English better so downloaded Skype lately.
But those who tried to contact me were only Chinese people,who wanted to study Japanese.
I was a bit surprised at the fact that Japanese language was popular with them.
Because I've thought that Chinese people, in general, hate Japan because of the government's anti-Japanese education.
So I was very glad to know that there were some of them who were interested in Japan or Japanese things.
I hope China and Japan build a good relationship with each other in the future.

391 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-09-24 21:01 ID:Xh2LEGmv

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392 名前: Miyuki : 2008-10-01 20:31 ID:il/8A2Rl

I wonder about the chinese thing as well.

I was in Japan last year on an one year exchange program.

At my school and where I lived there were many students from China.

The majority I have met and talked to hated Japan. And comaplained alot about Japan. Some have been in Japan for quite a few years now.

Which makes me wonder WHY ARE THEY EVEN STAYING IN JAPAN?? Why don't they just leave if they hate it so much? It's not like the Japanese governement haved locked the gates preventing them from leaving right?

393 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-10-02 08:18 ID:rSz3AN/M

>>Which makes me wonder WHY ARE THEY EVEN STAYING IN JAPAN??

Same sentiment here. Fine if you want to go hating on Japan, they hate on lots of other folks too anyway, but FFS get out of Japan if you hate it so much.

I can kind of understand why even otherwise nice balanced Japanese people can have this irrational (albeit stereotyped) hatred towards Chinese/Korean/etc immigrants when they like to piss on the country nobody asked them to come into. (as opposed to maybe expat workers who are there because their company insisted they be there)

394 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-10-03 01:43 ID:ZhGGKIDw

I find that the majority of Chinese people who learn Japanese are not from mainland China, but from Taiwan. In fact, most Taiwanese celebrities know quite a lot of Japanese...

395 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-10-03 07:23 ID:Heaven

I heard Taiwan is generally described as 親日 (pro-Japan, friendly with Japan) Is this true?

396 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 : 2008-10-03 07:56 ID:Heaven

>>392
They were students, right? Of course it's not like the Japanese government locking them up or anything, but it's probably not complete free will of Chinese students either, considering how oppressive it gets once they in the "system" in Chinese society. If it's an exchange program, the length is set from the beginning, so they can't just quit staying in Japan. Of course, even so, it wouldn't be logical to constantly bitch about Japan.

>>393

>this irrational (albeit stereotyped) hatred towards Chinese/Korean/etc immigrants

This is largely due to so-called "zainichi" issues. There probably isn't well-balanced explanation written in English of what the issues really are. If you don't even know what "zainichi" refer to, it's not a good idea to use judgmental words such as "irrational".

>>394
No. How many people do you think live in China?

>>395
Well, Taiwanees people probably don't like to be simply grouped as such. There have been always pro-China people in Taiwan. This is hardly surprising considering how it came to be. Let's just say Taiwan is still trying to establish its national identity. Issues such as which language (Chinese, but their dialects are really mutually unintelligible languages) should be promoted publically are still hotly debated.

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