Politics @4-ch

Politics @4-ch

Commonwealth, republic, territorial or local, politics is the subject of discussion.
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1: itt succintly describe your political views (77) 2: fox new fires Bill O'Reilly for sexual heresy! (3) 3: Fuck Han Chinese (34) 4: I was made fun of online by a Bernie Bro (2) 5: Impeachment (3) 6: I will tell you the worst part of the world we're living in, and I advise you read to the end. (11) 7: TRAPS AREN'T GAY (7) 8: Comedy's role in politics (4) 9: 【 Search for the Truth in Terrorism 】 (33) 10: I hate nigger lol (5) 11: ★NIGGERS, PAKI, PELUVIAN, INDIAN, BRA, GET OUT OF JAPAN!!!★ (86) 12: ITT We Complain about Abe (18) 13: [Counting] Days Since Last Donald Trump Mention [Part 1] (72) 14: Why does the US need to get rid of the euro (5) 15: Estonia joins UN migration pact (2) 16: Peter Zeihan (1) 17: Christopher Bollyn: Making Sense of the War on Terror (2) 18: [CCCP] Soviet Joke Thread (14) 19: It's okay to punch a Nazi (4) 20: Kanye West will run for president in 2024 as a republican (3) 21: Are you a political radical? (15) 22: Doug Jones beats Roy Moore! (2) 23: Okra Windbag - Anointed to Rule (4) 24: Majority my ass (6) 25: Is this true?? (2) 26: when a buisnessmans tweets amuse you, so you use numeric ouji to summon a chaos god to elect him as (7) 27: Hahaha oh wow (14) 28: what happened yesterday (3) 29: THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN http://fart.ga/ !! (1) 30: North Korea: Kim Jong Ill trying to compensate for something... (17) 31: Cheney's an asshole what else is new (4) 32: Drug experimentation? (70) 33: ITT: Historical Revisionism (7) 34: Post your magical dream government (12) 35: Illegal Immigration solution (28) 36: Bush should be impeached (20) 37: ITT we ponder japan's superiority (68) 38: ITT We share our rather unsavory political beliefs. (7) 39: Board Cleanup (8) 40: The Japanese truth that I must accuse (1) (8)

itt succintly describe your political views (77)

1 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-05 06:22 ID:VWfll08f

if it's possible to sustainably provide basic needs like food and housing and medical care for every human, i want that done.
there are a few issues in the personal realm which the state has a legitimate reason to act on (e.g. Fair Housing Act in response to neighborhood segregation in the United States). for everything else, people should look after themselves and those they love.
capitalism doesn't offer useful choices.

68 Name: Citizen : 2019-12-16 05:54 ID:/NaQNU5E

Im an individualist so the ideal government would cater to me

69 Name: Citizen : 2020-01-04 19:54 ID:4JfSrERl

National Socialism

70 Name: Citizen : 2020-01-15 01:02 ID:x8hgDNEW

I'm into accelerationism, the meme ideology of 2017

71 Name: Citizen : 2020-04-20 06:09 ID:rgCuMgSA

>>69
nice

72 Name: Citizen : 2020-04-20 23:24 ID:Q4LH1FLY

politix r gey

73 Name: Citizen : 2020-04-29 14:55 ID:3i5hSkBw

Anarcho-syndicalist in theory but in practise a Catalan independentist

74 Name: Citizen : 2020-05-16 22:39 ID:Heaven

I have become more Marxist-Leninist over the years.

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76 Name: Citizen : 2020-05-18 22:01 ID:Heaven

>>75
A black nationalist, I assume?

77 Name: Citizen : 2020-06-06 00:37 ID:4eacqpQ0

My ideology is completely based on my desires and my inherent, natural morality. It is completely untainted and i do not subserve. My needs are to create culture, art and science and to consume them. Any ideology that goes beyond that scope is hostile to me. The same applies to any ideology that acts in ways that are morally unpleasant to me

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fox new fires Bill O'Reilly for sexual heresy! (3)

2 Name: vc: gawd : 2020-02-20 21:49 ID:pFyGQJJ6

"Sexual heresy" is a dope phrase.

I will henceforth describe myself as a "sexual heretic" rather than "gay."

3 Name: Citizen : 2020-05-24 02:46 ID:0av8ya2j

>>2
does this mean we straights are sexual orthodox?

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Fuck Han Chinese (34)

1 Name: UyghurGuy : 2009-07-09 13:20 ID:1M92yyVF

Fuck the Han chinese. Fuck china. the govt is so racist and corrupt and Han chinese are so racist and dont give a shit about minority cultures. Fuck china. shithole country without dignity for its citizens

25 Name: FunkyCHINK : 2010-05-08 19:29 ID:R5bz/EhW

Hi I'm a CHINK. I'm so happy!

26 Name: FunkyCHINK : 2010-05-08 19:42 ID:R5bz/EhW

Yes lets all go to India. Chennai is very developed and have very high education.

27 Name: Citizen : 2010-11-24 22:08 ID:ydkN+zkJ

Euh I'm just curious that how can someone get respected when he keep fucking some others...?
If you want to discuss, u'd better try to say something ordinary, well I mean at least less aggressive
And if you want to pee, just ask some one "where is the toilet>?" they'll show you, ok I hope they didn't tell you that 4ch is a toilet..

28 Name: Citizen : 2011-05-10 04:04 ID:EYIppxuz

>>1 You can say the same thing for pretty much every other country in the world. Racism exists everywhere.

29 Name: Citizen : 2011-05-14 11:00 ID:Ee+DSmYu

>>28
Not every country enshrines racism in government policy though.

30 Name: deegii0904 : 2011-08-03 01:58 ID:QWgzqJwK

Hello, God damn Mongolian here.

China already reached their peak time. For near future, China will divided into their ethnic groups, I think. And their shitty wall will be broken.
I feel sorry for Uyghurs, Tibetians, And Tsahar Mongols in China.

31 Name: HG : 2011-09-24 21:25 ID:pjaLlaKj

you really think ethnic groups are the future of china?
damn, gotta convince more, cuz when u say peak time, what do u mean? economically or from a power-distribution PoV or wh00t?

ppl, how bout some real opinions.
China still got some pretty bad-add potential. Any politic or econ majors got some mainstream academic opinion to share?

32 Name: emmmsexy : 2011-10-07 01:18 ID:ci5979xv

Americans are brainwashed into thinking china is evil and capitalism is great and death free, both those ideas are lies.
The people arent evil and the people cant be blamed for the politics that are imposed on them.
Sorry, chinese are okay, if a little strange to westerners.
As for ethnicity, I dont care, its time we stopped blaming people for the actions of their politicians and rallied round each other. Humans are the most important thing on this planet.
love you all
Jesus of Nazareth, near Washington, Lincs.
Mwah

33 Name: Lauren : 2011-10-12 02:45 ID:LqfGI8wH

34 Name: 666 : 2020-04-16 08:03 ID:2GG3d1Aq

fuck you ukanaka

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I was made fun of online by a Bernie Bro (2)

1 Name: Citizen : 2020-03-07 05:52 ID:IiMEsSbv

So now I think poor people don't deserve health care

2 Name: Citizen : 2020-04-26 22:59 ID:Heaven

Punishing others for the actions of an unrelated individual is a compliance tactic older than the dawn of time.

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Impeachment (3)

1 Name: Citizen : 2019-12-19 16:20 ID:tu2yeP4N

Why are people freaking out about trump's impeachment? Yeah sure only two other presidents have had that but the only modern one of those two, Bill Clinton, is known as a pretty good president more than anything. And a Nixon scenario isnt happening since I dont think anyone wants there to be a President Pence.
Seems to me that nothing at all will come of this except for a new edit on Wikipedia's List of Impeached Presidents article.

2 Name: Citizen : 2020-01-06 18:21 ID:nFP8wm7S

Trumptards see this as the deep state lizard jews taking down the last vestige of real America ye haw, and liberal children see it as legal confirmation that he is the worst president ever.

Personally, I think that he needs to be barred from running again, not because of any moral reasons but because he sucks balls at foriegn relationships. He seems to be under the impression that America is this unstoppable superpower that nobody on earth dare resist, which is only really true in the western hemisphere. China and Russia are superpowers. They are not to be fucked with.

3 Name: Citizen : 2020-01-08 04:56 ID:gLqxGboS

> America is this unstoppable superpower that nobody on earth dare resist, which is only really true in the western hemisphere

It was proven false in every hemisphere on March 29, 1973

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I will tell you the worst part of the world we're living in, and I advise you read to the end. (11)

1 Name: Citizen : 2018-11-11 18:02 ID:e1E9YbGk

>everyone keeps shitting themselves over baseline gender politics
>nobody aware enough of autonomic intelligence feedback loops controlling the market, and the market moving to a content marketing method, which means the market is mainly selling narratives, which means autonomic intelligence feedback loops are selling narratives, which means literal fucking abstract mathematic algorithms are in charge of the proliferation of culture since religion is fading out and there's no longer a common cultural narrative, so fanatics turn to neo corporate idolatry, and the marketers don't realize they're playing with fire and sooner than later a crowd of disgruntled fanatics are going to come close to, if not outright kill someone like the frenchies back in 08

Things are so much worse than you could possibly imagine.

Okay so back in the day, some computer nerds made machines that would take in a bunch of outside data, process it, and try to predict the future. To fund it, they predominantly sold the information to people who wanted to buy and sell stocks. Enough people started doing this that they started making the machines send out stock reports themselves, which other machines took in as data to further sell, buy, and report on stock themselves.

This eventually created a massive feedback loop of stock data being managed by autonomic intelligence (not the same as artificial intelligence) that outright blocked the human element, and right now the open secret is that the market is out of human control. If anyone tried to remove these data loops, even one out of sync chain link could cause the world economy to collapse over night.

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2 Name: Citizen : 2018-11-11 18:03 ID:e1E9YbGk

So basically, in tandem with this technology, the internet happened and a load of marketers started moving to "content marketing", which is the idea that the product and the marketing are the same thing and that you're selling a lifestyle story, which is why if you pay attention, most companies that used to just sell a product have made massive investments into media space. This is fine in and of itself, the 80's had a similar version of this. The problem is that easy proliferation of consumer data reaches autonomic intelligences, and they begin to report on what kind of narratives sell vs what ones dont. Simple, right? Well, not really. Y'see, we live in a post hypernormalisation world, a soviet term for a propaganda that keeps things are something when the reality is different. When you mix in marketing and propaganda with feedback loops, and add on top of that google's ad program that essentially bubbles people into feedback loops, and only give them what they want to hear so you can sell them something, it basically creates mass psychological dissonance between different groups of people that, consciously or not, have their life's context formed around media narratives. It's one reason why the social justice stuff is hitting so hard now despite the fact that america is an otherwise pretty prosperous country with no major problems causing anyone to starve.

Anyway, the implication is that you basically have cultural narrative context being created by literal abstract machinations who may or may not be intelligent. That's no good, cause there is no moral parameter to stop the data from trying to get everyone to kill eachother. See, people keep thinking the robot revolution's gonna be like terminator, but it's gonna be more like the shining.

3 Name: Citizen : 2018-11-11 18:03 ID:e1E9YbGk

So people have their lives contextualized by inhuman machinations, which, okay, its pretty bleak but not outright destructive, right? just a bunch of consumers being taken for a ride, right? Well no. Y'see, the consequence of religion more or less falling out of style in the public consciousness is that there's no longer a single cultural narrative. So you just dont get to see tim at sunday school, so what? Well the larger point of contention is that there's always been a considerable percentage of any population that gives way to fanatic behavior, which in antiquity usually meant religious fanaticism. But if the narrative of religion is weakened, and the only alternatives to narrative are autonomically generated content marketing narratives too shallow to really make a lifestyle out of, you run into a phenomenon where a percentage of the population essentially migrated between brands in a pseudo idolatrous methodology. When you really come down to it, a fanbase is literally just the same thing as a cult, they both act as a community that bring people together to discuss a specific narrative. Except the religious ones actually at least try to offer the illusion of being beneficial to society at large, while the autonomic models are there purely for profit and offer hedonic sensory overload to compensate for any shallowness.

Did you ever stop to think about how we live in a world where a bunch of people do crazy shit over cartoons, harass people, send death threads, sell cars for sauce, etc? Do you really think that's just normal behavior? No! those sort of people would've been in a fucking monastery a couple hundred years ago, they're fanatics, pure and simple. Nothing wrong with being a fanatic if its constructive, but these narratives dont have that interest in mind.

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4 Name: Citizen : 2018-11-11 18:03 ID:e1E9YbGk

One could argue that we have too much freedom of choice when it comes to information about narratives, and its actively harming this society. The russians use avant garde techniques in their propaganda to give their population so much bizarre data to sift through they just conform with no real goal in mind, the chinese just censor and have less overall data fed to their population. But americans simultaneously have too much data, and too little diversity in the data, making it easy for context to corral them into a specific mindset. And all it takes is a pair of eyes to see that the current mindset for american populations is apathetic vs messiah complex murderousness

The silver lining is I think that these marketers dont know they're playing with fire. I don't think its entirely out of the question that some day soon a crowd of angry people will actually lynch content creators for not towing their own narrative complex, and very soon they may begin to live in fear. People think this sexual harassment stuff is a big happening, but I think its only going to be a drop in a larger bucket that'll be the 2020s.

If not apocalyptic, they'll be interesting times.

5 Name: Citizen : 2018-11-13 01:46 ID:Heaven

5GET

7 Name: Citizen : 2019-06-20 19:01 ID:Heaven

Fuck off. Any era when the majority can read and write is far from the worst.

You got social mobility, literary, access to heating and plumbing, all of the knowledge you could every want, and the ability to broadcast every thought you've ever had whenever you want and have it be seen by anyone

The existence of a highly influential group of elites is a given for any society, and this one is actually way less powerful than most of them are, since they aren't able to keep knowledge from people via language.

You should be happy you aren't a serf literal slave, you unappreciative shit

8 Name: Citizen : 2019-06-20 20:55 ID:kbTZzQRS

The lack of cultural unity is a result of overpopulation, not a lack of religion. Rome switched religion half way through and they were perfectly fine until they got too big and collapsed under their own weight

Human beings are adapted to live in tribes, not societies. We're apes, not termites. Once you have too many people in a group, the group becomes unstable and falls apart

That's why Japan has such good cultural unity even though the culture discourages western-style organized religion. The nation's so small and isolated that there's not enough people for any sort of cultural split to occur

9 Name: Citizen : 2019-09-30 12:15 ID:Heaven

>>7

>You got social mobility

Hardly. The law may not impose barriers to it, but social mobility is largely an illusion hanging over from the 1950s-70s. At least if you were a feudal serf nobody blamed you for being a serf. Under our benevolent meritocrats, it's now a personal failing to be poor and unpopular. This is despite the fact every economics textbook under the sun will admit that there is a level of unemployment that is intentionally maintained to control prices without resorting to more restrictive methods.

10 Name: Citizen : 2019-10-08 15:50 ID:rS7BHCV7

>MGS2 postm-

Why english thinkers see Postmodernism as an evil thing?

11 Name: Citizen : 2019-12-12 08:35 ID:6k1Kz7lC

>>7

>The majority can read

The majority are functionally illiterate when if they're capable of reading the McDonald's drive through menu.

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TRAPS AREN'T GAY (7)

1 Name: Citizen : 2018-05-12 17:22 ID:0ZIvJ4TT

are there people who actually thinking sucking dick is gay?
you're sharing protein
you're admiring masculine physique, being in the vacinity of other high testosterone males increases your own testosterone
eating pussy is gay because you're literally slurping down estrogen. and long term relationships have been proven to lower testosterone.
spartans had gay orgies all the time and they were the height of masculinity. you bet they were at least fondling eachothers test producers.

all these summer DYEL's piss me off. their twink bodies don't understand, but in time i'm sure they'll get it.

2 Name: Citizen : 2018-05-12 17:33 ID:1GFigA36

Bait

If not, liking traps is gay and traps (people who're dressing as women to get fucked by men) are gay too.

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4 Name: Citizen : 2018-06-14 16:34 ID:nd9TaP/D

Ooohhhh they aaaarree, because it's unnatural.

You want protein? Eat eggs or yogurt.

5 Name: Citizen : 2018-08-24 16:06 ID:BAgRIr/J

What if all fashion went unisex one day? Would this just sort of go away?

6 Name: Citizen : 2019-10-08 15:12 ID:ftTYY664

its NOT gay to suck cock

7 Name: Anon : 2019-12-03 17:17 ID:RSFkShUc

It's very gay to suck dick, imo. If it has a dick doing anything sexual with it is gay

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Comedy's role in politics (4)

1 Name: Citizen : 2006-12-22 12:16 ID:++LwfAN9

Daily Show, The Colbert Report to name a few are some of the shows that influence people on how they should react to the US government. Comedy, for that matter, has become one of the most efficient tools of getting through to people and telling idiots THEY'RE WRONG. Is it the same in your country? Is comedy just for "fun" where you live or do you sometimes go over the things you laughed at?

2 Name: Citizen : 2006-12-23 01:40 ID:Heaven

MY NAME BORAT! I LIKE YOU! I LIKE SEX!

3 Name: Citizen : 2019-12-01 14:35 ID:5Lnvgvvj

based

4 Name: Anon : 2019-12-03 17:14 ID:7e8Gf/Kn

Based

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【 Search for the Truth in Terrorism 】 (33)

1 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-13 19:31 ID:yshq4QdS

1 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-13 14:07 ID:fUz/ZNJx [Del] Why American Ignore This Atrocity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
http://vision.ameba.jp/watch.do?movie=682082
http://vision.ameba.jp/watch.do?movie=666178

2 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-13 16:19 ID:NVlZilTA [Del] http://www.loosechangeguide.com/

3 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-13 19:08 ID:dy95H9eQ [Del] WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2073592843640256739

Former German Minister Says Building 7 Used To Run 9/11 Attack (April 21 2006)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/210406runattack.htm

9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush

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24 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-21 03:39 ID:Heaven

>>22

> I stopped reading at "covert CIA operative Valerie Plame." She is not, nor was she ever, a field officer.

Did it say "covert CIA field operative Valerie Plame"? Her identity was classified as a CIA operations officer.

> Outing a "CIA member"

Why would you put that in quotes?

> trendy leftoid cocktail parties

Oh, that's why. I stopped reading here.

> § 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources
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25 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-21 09:47 ID:h2vvRl2X

Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker III still alive ?
What do they do these days ?

27 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-22 17:22 ID:CLedaqN0

>§ 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources

Desk job at Langley != undercover agent. Thank you, drive through.

28 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-22 19:39 ID:Heaven

>>27

> While using her own name, "Valerie Plame," her assignments required posing in various professional roles in order to gather intelligence more effectively.... Two of her covers include serving as a junior consular officer in the early 1990s in Athens and then later an energy analyst for the private company (founded in 1994) "Brewster Jennings & Associates", which the CIA later acknowledged was a front company for certain investigations.

Thank you, come again.

29 Name: Citizen : 2008-02-23 07:24 ID:Heaven

Indonesia’s Health Minister Accuses U.S. Of Bird Flu Bio-Weapon Conspiracy
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/022108_bird_flu.htm

30 Name: Citizen : 2008-03-03 18:09 ID:T3TaziVx

31 Name: Citizen : 2017-03-12 15:17 ID:le+1Dww7

dicks out for Harambe

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33 Name: Ichirou Matsushita : 2019-09-30 14:37 ID:VYvZsjhn

Please listen to me!Japan is doing terrorism with state power!
Japan is famous for sloppy management of electromagnetic wave.
Japanese society Has become serious thing behind the scenes.
Electromagnetic wave is secret globally.
But Japan can`t take a cooperative attitude In the field of electromagnetic wave use.
Because some of Japanese abusing it that state secret.
They slander Japan and Japanese people and other country(America and others), and attack and threaten people,suggest that murder,Threaten to kill,using electromagnetic wave all of them.
They are antisocial terrorists with state power.

But they feel at ease.
Cause Japanese government permit terrorism!
It seems like Japanese government don`t have the motivation to prevent terrorism!
Apparently many Japanese take part in crime and playing that abusing state secret.There is a possibility that they supporting to terrorists.
Do they have awareness that it is own country?

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I hate nigger lol (5)

1 Name: Citizen : 2017-10-08 04:52 ID:kmSSYqiD

lol

2 Name: Citizen : 2017-10-13 21:03 ID:Heaven

Me too, lol!

3 Name: Citizen : 2019-07-25 05:49 ID:WPuU6Rab

I hate niger lol

Worst country in Africa by far

4 Name: Citizen : 2019-07-27 03:14 ID:tQ02bO8V

4get/死ゲット for death to niggers! Shine

5 Name: Citizen : 2019-09-05 23:16 ID:pKLxqMIJ

You're goddamn right.
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