WHY DO WESTERNERS CARE ABOUT ASIAN POLITICS? (89)

1 Name: Citizen : 2007-08-23 16:50 ID:M6GjVQni

rt

this applies more to weeaboos but can be extended to westerners in general.

example: faking of nanking

40 Name: Citizen : 2008-03-06 00:39 ID:Heaven

mmm, Asia is where all the lolicon porn and U-15 idols of the world come from. If something happened to Asia, our supply would run dry

41 Name: Citizen : 2008-03-06 00:40 ID:Heaven

>>33

>Except the Asian politics threads here haven't been about interesting stuff like that, but are just the creation of borderline trolls irate about whether Country A committed really horrible atrocities against Country B in the past and/or has groveled sufficiently in regret for the actions of their grandparents, which country is the rightful owner of some godforsaken rock in the ocean with zero economic value, or just how dirty and smelly a certain ethnic group is.

Sounds oddly similar to Middle Eastern politics...

42 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-05 18:07 ID:2QWx0m72

Because there's too many Asians living outside of Asia spreading their nationalistic garbage all over the place. Get the fuck out.

43 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-11 21:12 ID:BAABKDPp

>>1

fuck you.

faking of nanking? how do you know it's fake? you sound like the rest of the weeaboos too, so why don't you get off your high horse.
you are probably a westerner too, so why the fuck do you care to give you 2 cent about asian politics? this is none of your business.

44 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 03:57 ID:vKHef6tZ

It seems despite billions of yen in reparations and over 20 official apologies, Japan can't live down their actions in Asia during WWII. The oppressive governments of China and North Korea are laughing their heads off because their sheeples are all worked up over stuff that happened 60-70 years ago, instead of today's oppression. The media plays right into their hands as well, spreading lies and exagerations, such as the idea that Japan has "never" apologized.

45 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 04:43 ID:Heaven

>>43
How do you know it's real? Just because you're told that it's real? How does OP know it's fake either? Anyone with a brain wouldn't be confidently taking sides.

46 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-15 21:05 ID:SP65efHt

>>45
Not to put too fine a point on it, but there was a large German commercial and political (read: Nazi Party members) presence in Nanking at the time.

The Japanese atrocities they witnessed so horrified Hitler himself that he very nearly ended the alliance with Japan then and there. This little fact was found in the Nazi archives captured at the end of the war.

Not that the Japanese and Germans were especially comfortable allies in the first place. The Japanese had very close trade ties with Poland before the war, and Japanese military intelligence shared intelligence on intercepted Soviet military radio transmissions with Polish military intelligence, who were VERY good at translating and decrypting them, and who were (ironically enough, or maybe not) rather more afraid of Stalin than they were of Hitler. The Japanese were very unhappy indeed on the morning of September 2nd, 1939.

Or, if all that's tl;dr, this is one of those universally accepted historical facts that even the political extremists outside Japan have always accepted, and any attempt to sow doubt about it is right up there with, say, denying that the First World War took place. "How do you know? You weren't there, and all the people who supposedly took part are dead now. YOU CAN'T PROVE NOTHIN!"

Hitler wanted China to be a German client state in the Far East. China, or at least the coastal regions, was full of German arms exporters and German military advisors. Hitler wanted Chiang Kai-Shek as an ally in the worst way. Japan's invasion of China seriously pissed him off.

And Japan was very happy to trade both commerce and intel on the Soviets with Poland. Ironically enough the Japanese military junta was terrified of Stalin, but thought the US was a nonentity that would go back to isolationism if they made a sufficent show of force.

47 Name: randomperson : 2008-04-16 02:08 ID:aaqwew/f

maybe they pay attention to it to annoy obnoxious buffoons like you.

48 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-26 21:16 ID:MWPjBse2

It is violently entertaining. The Taiwanese congress is a case in point.

49 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-27 16:48 ID:bPP7ByLF

>>46

>The Japanese atrocities they witnessed so horrified Hitler himself that he very nearly ended the alliance with Japan then and there. This little fact was found in the Nazi archives captured at the end of the war.

Germans in Nanking during the Rape, and I can't recall if they were representatives of the Third Reich, or if they were just foreign aid workers, witnessed and were horrified by the atrocities. They attempted to contact Hitler himself, hoping he would try to get the Japanese to reign in their occupational forces, but they were silenced and ostracized by other high-ranking Nazi party members who were unwilling to jeopardize the alliance.

Note that at this time, what was being done in the concentration camps was not common knowledge, even to German citizens.

50 Name: nobody : 2008-05-14 06:44 ID:Jq2rXtg9

asian people are too proud for their own good, cannot cooperate with one another, hate one another for no good reason and cannot let go of the past. keep ranting about the past like bitches - your ancestors did this and that and thats why i fucking hate you even though its got nothing to do with you.

thats why they are easily manipulated by westerners who wants them to keep their level of hostility high towards each other.

then westerners can keep their power and wealth intact while asians waste their resources fighting one another.

do you think americans really care about china-taiwan and north-south korea issues other than selling weapons and for their own benefits??

51 Name: Citizen : 2008-05-14 22:51 ID:VkQBtcSL

>>50, I think some do. There are 300 million Americans and you cannot make all of them agree on anything.

52 Name: K-otaku : 2008-05-26 21:00 ID:9Tz/8V6z

Because asians aer shweet!!^_^

53 Name: Citizen : 2008-06-15 21:00 ID:kpSx4aaw

sighs.....i pray that the doomsday may come earlier and ends faster!

54 Name: RedCream : 2008-06-16 00:14 ID:kQoEF9Bd

Westerners are extremely interested in other nations as a rule, not just AZN ones. Westerners use this foreign interest to ESCAPE paying attention to their own failgovernments and faileconomies and failsocieties in general. For examples, USians will tell you all about how much a nutball Iran is, yet the USA is doing either the same stuff, or much worse than that. Since USians don't pay attention their own Military Murder Machine, they really don't know much when you try to debate them. There's a factor of intentional ignorance, but there's still a result of astonishing ignorance about what their own nation does in the world and domestically.

55 Name: Citizen : 2008-06-16 18:21 ID:dH1e6fer

>>54

Bumped for truth. Most of us americans do not pay attention to how frighteningly similar we are to the nations we criticize. we ar enot too far away from where nazi germany or stalin era russia was at. but because we are kept blissfully distracted, most of us havent realized it yet. I, for one, plan to move to holland. Yes, its expensive to live there but dammit, they have more freedom than we do.

56 Name: Citizen : 2008-06-25 18:31 ID:VkQBtcSL

>>54
If that were truly the case you'd already have been "disappeared" for saying such a thing in a public place, now, wouldn't you?

57 Name: Citizen : 2008-06-27 18:19 ID:dH1e6fer

>>56
not so. u misunderstand the concept of covert control. I'm not in a position of power or influence. I'm not rich. Therefore, im no one. I'm beneath their attention. attacking me would only prove my point and wouldn't be worth the resources. besides, maybe they are waiting until i become a real threat before they do it. remember how i mentioned "blissfully distracted"? they wanna see if i just drop it. if i dont, then "hes a trrorism suspect. send to gitmo/ misc black site". if i do, they win anyways. so ill just gtfo and let them have their dictatorship.

58 Name: hirohito : 2008-07-06 08:55 ID:zf4q646H

The collective ignorance of the Japanese r.e. their own recent history is staggering!!!!

Love Japan...........but accept your past and move on.

Hurry up with the PS4 too!!!!

59 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-06 11:49 ID:Q9i+yezv

>>58
U got some point here....

Wat PS4???!!! Man.....

60 Name: hirohito : 2008-07-06 23:30 ID:zf4q646H

play station 4

61 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-08 17:57 ID:DFu6izF+

i was shocked on hearing the PS4 arrival, which is too soon....

62 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-08 18:53 ID:dH1e6fer

>>61

i havent heard of it but it looks like sony is going the way of sega. it made an overpriced console and is now trying to fix the fuck up by making a new console. utter fail. sony better make up for this by making ps4 backward compattible with ps1 and 2. maybe an add on for ps 3 too. but they better make it separate. like an expansion bay thing to make it cheap

63 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-28 03:53 ID:a0zB6+tT

>>55

Well fuck, I hope we'd end up with something like Fascism. Honestly. I want a reason to believe in this country again. What we really need is a mass American Nationalist movement. We need a New American Spirit, an image, an archetype of what it means to be an American. And we need to mold our public around that. Everyone. Not just whites, but blacks, asians, latinos, every goddamn person living in this country. If we can come together as Americans, then we can move forward as a people.

Of course that's just a pipe dream.

64 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-30 07:40 ID:AqUlsofZ

>>63
It's a pipe dream until you start making pipe bombs.

65 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-30 16:18 ID:dH1e6fer

>>63
Um, why? tell me what exactly nationalism accomplishes? I'll tell you this much: fascism would mean giving up many of the freedoms that supposedly make America what it is. Nationalism is bullshit. It doesn't help and it only makes more of a foreign relations problem.

in closing, i give you a 3/10. you almost made me rage. and don't forget your sage on the way back to your bridge, troll!

66 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-30 16:39 ID:LVCLtucc

:/

67 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-03 05:57 ID:8etm0Hws

Because I live in Tokyo, that's why.

68 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-03 16:09 ID:SExeP8lI

XD

69 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-03 21:49 ID:Heaven

>>67
cool!
so how many 'no foreigner' signs have you seen?

70 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-06 20:48 ID:Ot+aS6/L

>>65

The patriot act is nationalism

>>67

do you expect me to go like:

KAWAII OMG ^^* GIGGLES <('U')> BE MY GOD OMG OMG OMG

... no, weaboo provoker... you bring out the worst (but in a way, cutest... i love a women with an obsession) out in everyone not-asian

71 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-15 03:00 ID:TqeQyrL1

The work is so interconnected at this point that changes in asia have an effect everywhere.

72 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-15 22:38 ID:PGppXmju

Nobody cares about your fucking politics.

73 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-15 23:02 ID:O6JuaGNx

Let me translate some of these posts for our Japanese readers' convenience:

70 Name: Citizenu : 2008-08-06 20:48 ID:Ot+aS6/R [Deru]

>>65

Za patrioto acto isu nationarismu

>>67

do you expecto me to go rike:

KAWAII OMGU ^^* GIGGURESU <('U')> BE MY GODU OMGU OMGU OMGU

... no, weaboo probokeru... you bringu outo za worsto (butu inu a way, cutesto... i robe a womenu witho anu obsessionu) outo inu eberyone not-asianu

71 Name: Citizenu : 2008-08-15 03:00 ID:TqeQyrR1 [Deru]

Za worku isu so interconnectedo ato thisu pointo thato changesu inu asia habe anu effecto eberywhere.

72 Name: Citizenu : 2008-08-15 22:38 ID:PGppXmju [Deru]

Nobody caresu abouto your fuckingu poriticsu.

74 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-16 00:26 ID:NPELC+vS

>>73
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW I love your words! It's better if you type in kana!

75 Name: Citizen : 2008-09-08 11:46 ID:oht1/9ML

eurofag here, we care because your economy affects ours and our economy affects yours, unlike america(whose politics we care about too) you produce high-quality products and no i'm not going too buy a xbox

76 Name: Citizen : 2008-09-17 01:43 ID:rMqiJQk8

>>75 yeah, Europe should also make a gaming platform. You better get on the poster 75

77 Name: Citizen : 2008-09-25 01:11 ID:MF+INRK9

>>1
I dunno bout everyone else, but I see asian politics just as valid as western politics.
This is a global age we live in. Each country has an effect upon one another. The prime minister stepping down due to his incompetance in japan affects confidence in the country in the west.
Human rights abuses in china and the governments actions in regards to that, affect buisness in the west. fewer companies wanna be associated with a china like that.

I'll keep out of the whole "Terrorism" and "Totaltarianistic governments" arguments. But will point out that what happens in the west affects what happens in the east. This is very much vice versa too.

Also, I for one am a military man, I understand that in this day and age countries have to work together and push, albiet gently, for change. We are all in this together, for better or worse, we have to look out for one another. Otherwise, we will never be able to advance as a people.

78 Name: Citizen : 2008-09-29 00:27 ID:W3YOM/gN

The same reason we enjoy pretending to hindibuddhistmayamanajajarambas and fap over samurai and ninjas whilst likewise asians enjoy pretending to be 18th century aristocrats and fap over the crusades and the illuminati. We're far away from each other not to care, but because what happens actually happened and is not some fantasy it's more interesting.

If a bunch of arabs fuck around we can't stop but think about all the annoying arab immigrants and terrorism. But if some AZNs fuck some shit up we can take a more objective view.

Well I'm not sure if it's the same for asians but it might be.

79 Name: Citizen : 2008-09-29 01:56 ID:Heaven

This thread predates the "Warning, Asian Trolls" ASCII Art, or it would have never progressed.

For more information on 4-Ch History, visit your local library.

80 Name: Citizen : 2008-10-01 19:59 ID:MF+INRK9

>>79
Stop saging on this channel.
lol it doesnt work.
Trust me, I tried.

81 Name: Citizen : 2008-10-03 23:17 ID:Heaven

>>80 is DQN

82 Name: Citizen : 2008-10-07 02:39 ID:sRPM3IZA

All sorts of weird and sometimes unpleasant things come from the East, therefore we are curious about it.

83 Name: Jiyo : 2008-10-07 13:58 ID:F2dWqE+D

lol, the reason why anyone cares is cause of inter-dependency. there is 1.8 trillion USD circulating in the chinese market. and all though the chinese are kind of insulated from the housing crisis, the only way for the chinese not to pulled into this sort of thing like JAPAN or KOREA is to do it with domestic consumption. plain and simple. if that happens how do you think the US is going to be affected?

84 Post deleted.

85 Name: Shades : 2009-03-11 06:14 ID:rk53vO3c

World Major Economy Crisis Run Down my friends, this gonna takes YEARS to recover.... the worse hasn't coming yet. its like gonna be a major inflation impact on the world.

86 Name: Citizen : 2009-03-18 09:26 ID:Heaven

Unfortunately, there are still significant numbers of Westerners who believe only they can solve problems and restore orders in Asia, and other non-Euroean nations.

87 Name: Citizen : 2010-03-02 22:49 ID:L9KcYd9c

white man's burden.lol

but believe me, more than 99% westerners don't care about east asia and don't know about it at all.

88 Name: MNN : 2010-04-22 15:26 ID:8QU7iWu9

MNN will introduce the first ever English Internet broadcasts by a Japanese political party, broadcasting news about the activities of the DPJ government, the Japanese Diet, and the party itself both domestically and worldwide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqMx7jKS_c

89 Name: Citizen : 2011-08-04 13:21 ID:eOyiA9sN

Singapore is becoming the country of Chinese, by Chinese, for Chinese.
http://kuishinboinsg.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-6.html

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