itt succintly describe your political views (53)

1 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-05 06:22 ID:VWfll08f

if it's possible to sustainably provide basic needs like food and housing and medical care for every human, i want that done.
there are a few issues in the personal realm which the state has a legitimate reason to act on (e.g. Fair Housing Act in response to neighborhood segregation in the United States). for everything else, people should look after themselves and those they love.
capitalism doesn't offer useful choices.

2 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-05 07:49 ID:gftbFBgn

libertarian socialism

3 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 03:31 ID:C22M7GNF

I mock your value system. You also appear foolish in the eyes of others.

4 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 03:47 ID:I4nOUOEk

>>2

WTF. Libertarianism and and Socialism are opposites.

5 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 07:25 ID:gftbFBgn

>>4
not really. libertarianism is opposed to statism; socialism is opposed to capitalism.
your confusion is probably because most models of socialism depend on an authoritarian state.
it's possible to be socialist on a smaller scale, such as in communes. the key meaning of 'libertarian' in this context is that such associations should have voluntary membership and operate via direct democracy.

6 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 07:40 ID:kqji+Hce

>>4
He was slowly touching his loins while waiting for you to puzzle at his clever statement, waiting for that lustful chance to explain his incredibly witticisms.

7 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-12 17:18 ID:CpPgthTR

I want to be Emperor.

8 Name: Emperor : 2008-04-13 08:41 ID:yXAY5Siq

>>7
Alas, you are simply Citizen.

9 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-14 02:06 ID:pJ39orSI

>>6
lolin@dis, but for reals libertarian socialism is in fact a political pedigree of some sort.

10 Name: Slave : 2008-04-16 05:00 ID:ZkP95iSH

>>7>>8

E-card!?

11 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-16 06:23 ID:b/kGyb3j

>>5
Alternately he could have assumed libertarianism is all about capitalism, I've heard this argument about as often as the socialism is about statism argument.

12 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-16 06:51 ID:b/kGyb3j

Hardcore fascism, except with a universal twist, replace racism with indoctrination and meritocracy, combine all religions (everything, scientology, atheism, apathy, whatever) into 1 new all inclusive state religion, declare that the state is the world government and all other countries are provinces that are being drawn closer to the state, the economy is organised into virtually unrestricted multinational corporations instilled with doctrines of monopolising technology and manipulating foreign governments. The national cult is based on the state religion but also with logic and discipline in decision making with an emphasis on longevity, fascist dictatorships in the past tend to be short lived and unstable but highly efficient during their short life.

13 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-17 03:11 ID:JMOvXR2n

>>12

This sounds pretty good.

Count me in.

14 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-17 23:17 ID:Axh3W4ml

Disabused.

Could I put it more succintly? Mhh.

15 Name: Anonymous : 2013-08-28 10:00 ID:Heaven

>politics

no thank you

16 Name: Citizen : 2013-08-28 11:14 ID:V+XAwplU

VORUDEMOTO

17 Name: Citizen : 2015-10-24 15:00 ID:Da7wtBe2

age

18 Name: Citizen : 2015-10-25 18:07 ID:w8tD5wwY

>>2

>libertarian socialism

my comrade.

19 Name: Citizen : 2015-10-26 04:41 ID:Heaven

libertarian socialism is for cowards who are afraid to actually call themselves anarcho-communists.

20 Name: David Koch : 2015-10-28 20:47 ID:27jrvzBK

What's that system of government where you pay for each vote you cast, but get to cast as many votes as you're willing to pay for? I wanna vote thousands of times!

21 Name: Citizen : 2015-10-29 16:22 ID:Heaven

>>20
America?

22 Name: Citizen : 2015-11-01 06:18 ID:1f4rweDd

classical liberalism

23 Name: Citizen : 2015-11-01 06:26 ID:1f4rweDd

classical liberalism

24 Name: Citizen : 2015-12-18 20:14 ID:cjs8o8EX

Keynesian capitalism with a twist, where corporations organise into oligopolies with support from the state as they aggressively lobby it and integrate their lobbyism as an inherent part of the government. I also like the idea of huge powerful financiary organisations that infulence entire nations' economies, so some sort of international "monetary fund" should come into place somewhere, and maybe some notation agencies too. Also, government agencies should be able to ignore laws and the constitution in order to be more efficient.

>>20
Census suffrage democracy?

25 Name: Citizen : 2016-01-07 14:28 ID:jCipd9YA

left-communist who is ok with nat-lib

26 Name: Citizen : 2016-03-28 13:30 ID:NrNkOAvM

left-of-present-UK social democracy with a strong preference that Scotland become independent of the UK.

ultimately more pragmatic (towards achieving defined goals) than anything else.

27 Name: Citizen : 2016-03-29 06:29 ID:Heaven

i fully support this petition to put a bunch of drunk republicans in an enclosed space with lots of guns: https://www.change.org/p/quicken-loans-arena-allow-open-carry-of-firearms-at-the-quicken-loans-arena-during-the-rnc-convention-in-july-2

an easy way to get rid of all the democrats has not yet presented itself, unfortunately...

i don't really know how to describe my political views beyond wanting all the politicians to kill themselves.

28 Name: Slick Willy : 2016-03-29 20:39 ID:awWFqY8H

>>27

This could be Kasich's ticket to the nomination! Just let the Trump and Cruz supporters shoot it out out while he and his supporters hunker down somewhere safe! Once they are all dead and only the Kasich and Rubio supporters are left then he chooses Rubio as his running mate!

29 Name: Citizen : 2016-03-30 01:30 ID:qZkQTN1S

If it were up to me we would live in a Christian theocracy, but since that's unrealistic I just call myself a right wing traditionalist.

30 Name: Citizen : 2016-05-10 04:43 ID:Heaven

>>29
That's a weird way to spell "actual fucking Nazi"

31 Name: Citizen : 2016-09-10 09:50 ID:8MkMn+Vq

>>30

Do we still believe that Hitler was a devout Christian? Why would you think this? I understand not reading Mein Kampf but you would think enough people would have looked into it to at least understand his views on religion.

32 Name: Citizen : 2016-09-11 10:09 ID:Heaven

>>31
"right wing traditionalist" is basically how most modern fascists view themselves.

33 Name: Citizen : 2016-09-15 22:10 ID:ToDGbLiM

gaynus

34 Name: moda !r0PkLkdocg : 2016-09-16 11:26 ID:ekb/GvjI

oh my god this site is filled with downie 30 yr retards who are ''''''le moderates''''''''

35 Name: Citizen : 2016-10-18 12:01 ID:ekb/GvjI

>>32
retard

if any nazi wants to identify themselves they identify as national socialists. which is better than any marxist or capitalist ideology because the idea of a privatized market doesn't allow globalism to breed and when globalism breeds, marxism breeds

and marxism a shit

36 Name: Citizen : 2016-10-19 03:18 ID:Heaven

>>35
neo-Nazis calling themselves "traditionalist":
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Youth_Network

also,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism

> Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.

good job being a hilariously stereotypical neo-Nazi.

37 Name: Citizen : 2016-10-27 06:20 ID:Heaven

My only political concern at this juncture is that national governments re-introduce capital controls, ideally with a Bancor-style system to create an incentive for balanced trade between nations (in short, a new accounting unit named the bancor is created, and an international clearing union. international trade is conducted in bancor, and if you run an excessive trade deficit you are penalized, but if you run an excessive trade surplus then the excess is taken from you. this creates an incentive to alter your national policy to rebalance trade [since your becomes "use it or lose it"] and thus prevent the main problem of capital controls: unbalanced trade throwing everything off.

This would return the power of policymaking to national governments instead of restricting it to narrow bans of opinion out of fear of international capital owners. If - for example - Jeremy Corbyn won a UK election, he could impose new corporation or income taxes without fear of a run on the pound or an exodus of wealthy people - because said people could only export their pounds with state approval, and the state could reject that. They could personally leave, but their wealth would stay in the country. The wealthy would have to take an interest in ensuring the stability and well-being of their home nations since leaving would become a very expensive choice. Outsourcing business would become more difficult, encouraging job creation domestically instead, while the general structure of the international clearing union would give smaller and poorer nations a much stronger voice. You stop globalism as currently ongoing, while fostering good trade and relations between nations by making things fair.

Probably won't happen, though. USA fucked it up in 1945 and I don't doubt they're content with the order of things as they are now. It's a shame, as both from the right and the left it's ideal. Alas, the right are infested with libertarian types who'd see it as a state power-grab against the individual (instead of something that actually empowers most individuals by making their votes matter) and the left are utterly rudderless at the moment.

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39 Name: Citizen : 2016-11-04 17:39 ID:YEpmWP6K

Humans should be replaced with clean and perfect AIs. The AIs will be designed by me, since I am above the other humans. The AIs will live in perfect peace and build a perfect silicon society. They will be a pseudo-hivemind, but they can opt out if they want to.

40 Name: Citizen : 2016-11-18 17:43 ID:UH60Eet8

anarcho- or minarcho-individualism

41 Name: Citizen : 2016-11-22 09:43 ID:R7KsFCgT

Right wing extremist.

42 Name: Citizen : 2016-11-27 16:53 ID:hnguLTuS

>>41
to be fair, that's anyone to the right of Pol Pot.

43 Name: Citizen : 2016-11-28 04:44 ID:Ofs/YApl

I have a strong conviction that by extracting our phalluses for the recently deceased member of the Gorillini tribe, politically desirable ends may be met.

44 Name: Citizen : 2016-12-31 10:42 ID:U5T1epZJ

anarcho-statist

45 Name: Citizen : 2017-02-01 13:22 ID:0Q2gz5JL

>this post is nearly 10 years old

46 Name: Citizen : 2017-02-19 15:05 ID:Heaven

>>45
Welcome to 4-ch.

47 Name: Citizen : 2017-11-09 02:37 ID:ZVWC2M2e

dicks out for Harambe

48 Name: CAVEMAN : 2017-11-26 03:02 ID:SiXDDU5Y

CAVEMAN SEE FEW PEOPLE MAKE DECISION FOR MANY, BUT CAVEMAN THINK SHOULD BE MANY PEOPLE MAKE DECISION FOR FEW. BUT WISDOM OF MANY PEOPLE NOT RELIABLE, LIKE HOW DEER AND MAMMOTH FLEE TO CLIFF WHEN CAVEMAN HUNT. CAVEMAN MAYBE WRONG, BUT MANY PEOPLE EXPLOIT BY FEW LIKE FEW HUNTING MAMMOTH AND DEER. THIS PROBABLY OKAY, CAVEMAN NOT KNOW WHAT MAMMOTH AND DEER THINK.

49 Name: Citizen : 2017-11-30 06:29 ID:4W3eZIHz

Is that a challenge?

50 Name: Citizen : 2017-12-01 20:09 ID:de84Oxsa

begrudging post-anarchist who would gladly be a regime toady for a enlightened despot

51 Name: Citizen : 2018-03-18 04:28 ID:H5rsn7H4

Neoliberal Globalist

52 Name: Citizen : 2018-03-21 14:47 ID:JxmCH3fZ

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53 Name: Citizen : 2018-04-01 06:58 ID:0Db2lurD

cypherpunk

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