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1 Name: Squeeks : 2007-10-20 20:56 ID:IxY8cNNA

On a brief initial trial, currently food and japanese boards have a "mobile" version, which is pretty much stripped down and designed for people with phones, PDA's and other handheld devices that can browse mobile XHTML content. Right now I've done what I can without more rigourous testing since I haven't the means to test this on my own phone.

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2 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-10-21 00:05 ID:/9HCJHh+

Are any other boards going to be mobile? If so Tech Support is a must, I only ever resort to such devices when my PC isn't working. I'll test this out later on my PSP and will do my best to provide a screen shot.

3 Name: Squeeks : 2007-10-21 00:13 ID:IxY8cNNA

Sure, eventually I'd like all the boards to have it supported.

4 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-10-21 05:31 ID:w73/0TpD

I'll try it on my PSP tonight, and see how it goes.

5 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-10-23 02:15 ID:w73/0TpD

Alright, it works good, but the PSP can already handle the site. Looks like win for mobile phones though.

6 Name: Squeeks : 2007-10-25 21:55 ID:IxY8cNNA

Giving this an age since all boards now have it, including this one.

7 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-10-31 22:52 ID:E4+WCQat

This is really cool, I tried using 4-ch with my phone before but the pages were too large for it to load. I'll give it a shot as soon as I recharge it!

8 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-11-05 11:12 ID:+D4iMrL7

Thanks squeeks, Ive always wanted to browse 4-ch when on the bus or train

9 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-11-06 19:42 ID:XCjeMJwF

Eh, it didn't work so well for me on my phone. Viewing 4ch with such a small screen is rather annoying.

10 Name: Squeeks : 2007-11-06 19:57 ID:QCPfYDaq

>>9
It's fine if you think it sucks, but you need to show me why. Maybe stop using a phone with a tiny screen?

11 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-11-07 11:03 ID:XSdysB5p

whenever i try to view an entire post it doesnt work
http://4-ch.net/personal/mobile.pl/1193225109/
http://4-ch.net/personal/kareha.pl/1193225109/

12 Name: Squeeks : 2007-11-07 22:37 ID:QCPfYDaq

>>11
As I've already asked, what phone, what browser etc?

13 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-11-08 09:37 ID:+D4iMrL7

>>12
a sony ericsson W810i, but that doesn't matter. if you use 4-ch:mobile on your computer you still can't see anything after:
"I thought it would pass, but it's been three weeks..."
http://4-ch.net/personal/mobile.pl/1193225109/1

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14 Name: Squeeks : 2007-11-08 20:11 ID:QCPfYDaq

Ah right, I've now fixed that problem involving truncating posts. Thanks, anonymous.

15 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-11-15 21:19 ID:WQ3T6uBa

It looks great on the PSP, and is pretty good on the mobile phone, although obviously the small screen limits it quite a bit. Good job.

http://i10.tinypic.com/8gjdph3.jpg

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16 Name: Squeeks : 2007-11-15 23:27 ID:QCPfYDaq

Hrm, thread titles look too big on your phone, is that because your cursor is over it, >>15 ?

17 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-03 20:12 ID:BtHDPKZn

Very nice, GJ!

Looks pretty good on my E-series Nokia (WebKit based browser):
http://lnk.nu/img140.imageshack.us/gwt.jpg

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18 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-21 12:27 ID:eUjpr7d1

my phone's browser is netfront and i noticed that the links for the boards point to http://4-ch.net/.../mobile instead of http://4-ch.net/.../mobile.pl. this causes me to get an error like this whenever i click one of the links:
Not Acceptable
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19 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-21 12:29 ID:Heaven

> RewriteCond %{HTTP_ACCEPT} !(text|\)/(javascript|\)

if you end up using this, you should note that your server sends js files as application/x-javascript (the default for apache) instead of text/javascript (which i configured mine to send them as) and change the regex accordingly.

20 Name: Squeeks : 2007-12-21 17:06 ID:QCPfYDaq

Wow, netfront really sucks.

Does putting a trailing slash on the end (eg. http://4-ch.net/dqn/mobile/ ) cause the same problem?
I'm rather curious as to what strange headers netfront is sending. Do you see anything unusual in http://services.4-ch.net/tools/headers.pl ? That stupid browser shouldn't be getting confused over a differing "Content-Location" header in a 200 response, right?

21 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-22 05:54 ID:Heaven

>>20
adding a trailing slash makes no difference.
the only things i see in the headers that look unusual at all are the fact that it's using a proxy and the insanely long accept header that doesn't include /, which most browsers do include if they send an accept header.

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22 Name: Squeeks : 2007-12-22 09:19 ID:QCPfYDaq

Interesting about the trailing slash not making a difference. Because in terms of the headers Apache sends (and I don't have a proxy between me and server) differs quite significantly:

curl -i http://4-ch.net/dqn/mobile
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23 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-23 03:38 ID:eUjpr7d1

>>22

$ curl -H "Accept: text/html" -i http://4-ch.net/dqn/mobile
HTTP/1.1 406 Not Acceptable
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24 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-23 04:06 ID:Heaven

also, in >>20 where it says:
> doesn't include /,
and
> text/x-perl or /.
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25 Name: Squeeks : 2007-12-23 04:52 ID:QCPfYDaq

Please, do me a favour, complain to Sprint/Netfront/whoever and remind them that their implementation of a "browser" on that phone sucks. I've stuck the stupid file extensions so save you and any other netfront users the grief of having to click twice.

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26 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-23 06:05 ID:Heaven

>>25
here are the rest of the headers:
(IP and Host removed)

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27 Name: Squeeks : 2007-12-24 02:24 ID:Heaven

Hey that client ID header is a really smart idea. I personally won't go out of my way to look for it, but someone else has to be.

28 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2007-12-24 03:52 ID:Heaven

>>27
from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/489332-1.html:

> Sprint PCS handsets send an encrypted session ID called "ClientID" in the HTTP header information. Using that data you can validate the phone against Sprint's servers and determine (with some level of security) the identity of the subscriber visiting your WAP site. To use that data you need a partnership with Sprint to decrypt the information for you. Are you willing to pay for authentication?

29 Name: Squeeks : 2007-12-25 00:41 ID:Heaven

I was being sarcastic.

30 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-01-19 21:10 ID:eUjpr7d1

how about support for posting like on http://waro.su/mobile.pl and http://waro.su/wml.pl?

31 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-03-01 08:03 ID:JnQf35WL

When looking for old threads using google, I tend to get more results linking to mobile.pl than kareha.pl for some reason. (Kinda like how you to get more results from printable versions of posts made on IPB forums - maybe Google favors them because there a larger concentration of actual content on them).

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32 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-03-20 15:50 ID:C59aKRa0

I use Opera Mini.

Mobile version of 4-ch works much faster on my Alcatel OT-C825 than general one.
It's sad that there is no posting, because in general version Opera Mini has no problems with posting field, but it's too slow in browsing.

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33 Name: 32 : 2008-03-20 19:16 ID:gZGKtfCi

Well, i can post if i change mobile.pl to kareha.pl in address manually. Not the best way, but still acceptable.

34 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-07-26 21:16 ID:tMnBdVa7

When you click a link like >>1 it opens in kareha mode (with reply bar).
But when you click a number at the left of poster's name page just reloads. Maybe it would be more useful if it acted in the way link does?

35 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-08-14 06:37 ID:47kY9fCJ

I have a shitty two year old razr v3i, and 4-ch mobile works swimmingly on it. I browsed most of the boards (didn't think to check the AA Bar) and the only issue I had was when accidentally clicking on the number to the left of the poster's name I recieved a 400 error. It'd be tits if we could post, too, but even having the ability to just read has killed many the boring hours of work.

36 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-10-17 20:48 ID:/C2bknLA

looks fine on my motorola razr2 v8 cellphone (opera).

now add posting/replies. PLEASE! :)

37 Name: Squeeks!tRfRREmKOE : 2008-10-19 23:54 ID:GDsNk8aF

Okay, the list so far:

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38 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-10-30 18:56 ID:s5Zh8Hii

yes. m.4-ch.net sounds good and short.
please add post ability first, since it's the most important imo. thanks!

39 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-11-29 12:13 ID:lSgSRkHt

on the mobile startsite you forgot to add "mobile.pl" in the "Japanese" link.

40 Name: Squeeks!eXfV3cXcCk : 2008-12-01 16:11 ID:ifcCdqMt

Thank you, >>39 , that's fixed. I'm trying to find the time and motivation to get things done, but alas I've had no time of recent.

41 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-01-05 20:50 ID:Heaven

Anyone know how to make SJIS/EUC/etc. work in US English win mobile?

I might have to cave in and get a G1 or iPhone next year, if not :(

42 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-02-09 06:57 ID:NqD7GY4j

>>41

No sorry. I have the same problem with my Motorola V8. But since there is Linux on it and there are already enough ways to change things on the phone, there should be a way to add Japanese/etc. fonts. Really need to look into it since i don't want a iPhone, especially NO Spywarephone like the G1...

43 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-02-13 04:38 ID:qebtD3co

I think some basic visuals and the ability to post would be nice.

44 Name: buzzbros2002 : 2009-05-03 05:28 ID:eY3+y/KN

Being able to post would make me as well as most people who use 4-ch mobile very grateful. Please consider it. Thank you.

45 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-06-02 02:48 ID:Heaven

> especially NO Spywarephone like the G1...

lol.
you obviously haven't looked at the freely available android source code.

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46 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-07-04 17:25 ID:7MPK4DuJ

Any news of progress being made?

47 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-07-26 20:04 ID:L9BlTZiQ

cool addition to the board.
Sadly, as cell phone browsing really is only for urgent situations, I doubt checking up on 4ch's slow boards will be a priority.

48 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-09-11 19:53 ID:K+aebTfU

>>45
who says that the free compiled sourcecode is the same that's already on the phones?
anyway it's OT.

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49 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-09-27 20:20 ID:lwmfamfe

When will 4-ch mobile visitors be able to take part in the forums?

50 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2009-10-04 14:55 ID:BWYjPAeY

Squeeks, wake up!
Follow the mobile postfunction.

51 Name: Squeeks!6G27pi9lO6 : 2009-10-18 14:17 ID:UGzXrIW6

I'm working on it, I'm working on it. Doing a few other things too. Moving between 3 countries this year certainly doesn't give me time for anything.

52 Name: buzzbros2002 : 2010-01-24 00:59 ID:voZ+gZLX

just wondering if anyone has any update on the mobile version of 4-ch in terms of posting on a mobile.

53 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2010-07-09 01:03 ID:dOuAhDJj

imo 4-ch would make for super lucky immensely pleasurable mobile browsing environment if the frames were ditched in favor of a drop menus.

54 Name: buzzbros2002 : 2010-07-20 06:50 ID:voZ+gZLX

good point!

55 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2010-11-08 15:34 ID:R6yG+Rxj

I'd love to be able to post messages from the phone, it don't require anything special since phones can handle POST-requests just as any other browser...

56 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-09-07 19:04 ID:l6KaeXtZ

Can we look at source code?

57 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-09-14 04:12 ID:KPBvo5KL

Not trying to sound impatient or anything, but is the ability to reply under this mode going to be added at some point?

58 Name: buzzbros2002 : 2011-09-22 05:55 ID:/Hd1TUVi

I would love to be able to see 4-ch's source code to try to make it more mobile. As of tonight I've decided to become active here again, and am slightly disappointed that i can still see my comments from over a year ago are on the requests front page thing. Is Squeeks still around?

59 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-12-03 22:23 ID:yaheNlos

http://news020.blog13.fc2.com/blog-entry-1956.html

60 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-12-08 05:27 ID:2OkDkO20

Hey Squeeks, when clicking a citeted post like >>1 it still opens in normal kareha. Can this be fixed please? I am in fact posting this in normal kareha from my phone. Otherwise, wonderful job.

61 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2013-05-09 04:10 ID:Zkxlp9TE

> "Japan's annexation of the Korean Peninsula before, elementary school was slightly Korean Peninsula, Japan made ​​4,5000 school.
> I was raised to 60 percent from four percent literacy rate. It is because it was policy of "modernization in the same way as Japan".
> Britain was the colonial India long, but I did not do that.
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