Science @4-ch

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1: What is the meaning of life (5) 2: Defuse a volcano? (17) 3: Would you break Number Code? (4) 4: Pluto not a planet ;_; (43) 5: Public debate on the (in)effectiveness of homeopathy (4) 6: Evolution is a DIRTY LIE (128) 7: When will they come out with a 256 bit OS or 1024 bit CPU? (78) 8: Bionic Eye helps the blind see low-res B&W video (8) 9: Good book for physics? (11) 10: Using a molecule as a basic transistor (4) 11: U F O (34) 12: theory (17) 13: We are living in a simulation (59) 14: Planetary Wind Speeds (10) 15: The science of economics (pro). (8) 16: Internet, teach me math (8) 17: Earth's Magnetic Field Polarity Reversal (11) 18: [Debate] The Problem of Evil [Religion] (79) 19: Should CERN Deactivate the Large Hadron Collider? (7) 20: There are no scientific threads on this page (11) 21: Randall Museum (1) 22: Curiosity has landed on Mars! (4) 23: The "Terminator" arm on a man who lost his right arm six years ago. (2) 24: Is the Universe Finite - or Infinite (You thoughts) (50) 25: What is a specific name of this fish? (2) 26: Silicon based life, has anybody tried this? (4) 27: Psychology is a fake science (82) 28: Maximum temperature? (2) 29: What do you think of this? The disadvantage of Smarts. (5) 30: What Makes People Go Psycho? (37) 31: iPhone program enables the blind to text! (9) 32: Russian Inventor Patents Invisibility Cloak (11) 33: ((゚)Å(゚))Tokai amateur radio earthquake prediction society (10) 34: Liquid/organic circuits (14) 35: Enigmatic Marks (2) 36: Travel Through a Black Hole (19) 37: [Theory] Quantum Mechanics Thread [Physics] (6) 38: Let's think how to cure the 'baldness' (22) 39: Japanese inventor develops flying sphere drone (1) 40: Strings 2011 in Uppsala, Sweden (1)

What is the meaning of life (5)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-10-14 09:25 ID:7ue8lWQv


2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-10-14 09:26 ID:7ue8lWQv

Thats gay, mate

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4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-01-20 15:45 ID:ZpOsFhEK

Life is meaningless.

5 Name: James Tiberius Kirk : 2017-01-27 03:04 ID:I2ET+xh/

Everybody knows the meaning of life is 42!

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Defuse a volcano? (17)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-10-27 19:42 ID:Yc4D7ZOM

As this is the ever-highly speculative Science board, I put to you a highly speculative scenario: Are you a bad enough dude/construction company/government agency/super villain to stop a volcano? Can you think of a way to take enough energy out of the equation to make a volcano sputter rather than explode?

I say this with the threat of Uturuncu popping its top sometime soon and potentially messing with the weather even worse than Pinatubo did. Also, I'm all about job creation...

Don't hold back! I want to hear crazy ideas.

8 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-19 22:26 ID:Heaven

I assume magma probably vaporizes more water than the water cools the magma. So pouring water into a volcano is probably not gonna stop it.

I'm kind of curious about what the radiation from nuclear blasts deep in the earth will do. I mean, maybe no animals live down there, but there's got to be bacteria or protists down there that never make it to the surface. We could get crazy mutated bacteria or something.

9 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-20 06:55 ID:5R7WSsYE

Probably chuck a lot of flowing water over it.

10 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-23 07:01 ID:emOcqeyk

What if you inject the volcano with liquid nitrogen?

11 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-28 17:40 ID:Yc4D7ZOM

>Beowawe Geyser Field was located in central Nevada between Elko and Battle Mountain. The field and steam were visible from the Interstate. The geyser field itself was located on the side of a hill and immediately at the bottom of the slope. This small basin was considered for national monument status, but apparently a political rivalry caused its disapproval. In the 1950s, geothermal drilling began the downward spiral of geyser activity at Beowawe.

The same thing happened to Steamboat Springs in Nevada.

Basically, drilling deep into the ground and using the energy from the earth killed geysers. Granted a volcano (particularly a big nasty explody kind) is many orders of magnitude greater in power, there's still potentially something to be gained from sucking energy out of the equation.

12 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-29 14:05 ID:NQQuy0da

One imagines it'd vaporize explosively. BOOM!

13 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-29 14:41 ID:Ph3ouho+

If you flood a volcano, it might not defuse it, but you can harness the resulting steam and use it for energy.

14 Name: Spike : 2011-12-01 09:11 ID:hldAjPWa

Anybody remember that episode of the Transformers where the Decepticons were draining off the heat of the Earth to fill their energon cubes and it got so cold that you could have a snowball fight in the desert in the middle of July?

15 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-12-31 14:50 ID:veQXhOEn

If you injected a powerful agent to lower the viscosity of the melt, it would decrease explosive potential. You could heat up the melt a lot while simultaneously introducing iron or other heavier elements to lower the silica content, which would also lower the viscosity and decrease likelihood of powerful eruption.

To complete stop a magma chamber, you would have to bore into the magma and insert miles-long rods of a material with a really high thermal conductivity constant. This could be supplemented with a dessication (de-watering) compound to lower the solidus of the melt and induce crystallization.

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17 Name: Hitler's Gas Bill : 2017-01-10 19:26 ID:3aP2bG+I

How about sand? Cheap, otherwise useless, and easy-to-access.
Plus, free glass, right?

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Would you break Number Code? (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-15 15:15 ID:r85BktkR

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-16 20:20 ID:GSJQWaJ5

Number Code is omniscient... don't think it is possible to penetrate sundry fortress of ghosts....

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Pluto not a planet ;_; (43)

34 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-07-30 14:37 ID:698jbMHp

>>29 pluto isn't, now.
but it is a planet, boku no kokoro no naka ni.

35 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-07-31 23:48 ID:XXiAckVX


> boku

This is not an English word why did you say it

> no

This is not an English word why did you say it

> kokoro

This is not an English word why did you say it

> no
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36 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-01 19:39 ID:hAhvoLPp

>> no
>This is not an English word why did you say it

yes it is

37 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-03 00:57 ID:Heaven


That was not an amusing post why did you make it

38 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-03 01:37 ID:Heaven

no, it's not. you're thinking of "no" as opposed to "no".

39 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-03 08:11 ID:Heaven

I can feel a "Post deleted by moderator." coming...

40 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-04 11:41 ID:Heaven


Can you now.

41 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-10 06:04 ID:Heaven

It's as if millions of voices suddenly cried out against censorship and were suddenly silenced.

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43 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-11-20 06:27 ID:sTLdiL1K

fuck you 2016 anon

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Public debate on the (in)effectiveness of homeopathy (4)

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2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-01-09 23:22 ID:Heaven

> This webpage is not available

3 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-14 06:45 ID:bPWiW755

Wow..... i havent seen that url since.. many many years ago. Before captcha on 4chan

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Evolution is a DIRTY LIE (128)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-16 15:43 ID:fM7LLXTR

> 1. The aim of this report is not to question or to fight a belief – the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent belief from opposing science.

Stopped reading there.

There is NO evidence of evolution. It is a belief. Objective science doesn't support evolution no matter how many frauds and hoaxes are fabricated to support evolution. The truth always trickles out.

Life doesn't just happen. That alone totally defies the Laws of Science.

The Judeo Christian G-D, made it happen. G-d is the Author of all science. It is no coincidence that leading evolutionists are atheists. THAT is by design. These atheistic evolutionists do not find G-d acceptable in their premises. Their premise is that there is NO G-D.

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122 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-09-02 18:13 ID:nSZLHB+a

Would you have sex with something that evolved from an ape?

123 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-09-06 20:10 ID:Heaven

I'm asexual, so no, I wouldn't have sex with anything.

124 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-09-10 17:57 ID:segyI+0X

Too bad. It's interested in you anyway.

125 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-18 03:13 ID:5TNG0Gm5

In the Old Testament, there are many references made to God leading the Israelites out of bondage in Egypt with a "strong hand and outstretched arm." There, reference to God's hand is clearly metaphorical, as he uses the plagues to free the Israelites, not a giant hand. God is a transcendent being, and thus does not have hands in the human sense. I think that the same is true of where it says in Genesis 2 that God formed man from dust he had gathered; God acts through the natural processes He created to carry out his will, as befits a being of His stature. However, the Bible occasionally using figures of speech should not be taken to detract from its spiritual truth.

126 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-23 04:50 ID:UuH/njL9

If life spontaneously appearing defies the "Laws of Science", as you call them, what property of the entity you refer to as "G-d" allows it to create life, in violation of the "Laws of Science"? If this entity can circumvent the "Laws of Science", can they really be said to be laws? And if as you say this entity is responsible for the creation of life, does that not imply that the "G-d" entity is not itself alive?

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128 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-11-02 16:56 ID:usdMZ3Fw

The Prophet Mohammad (pieces of shit be upon him)

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When will they come out with a 256 bit OS or 1024 bit CPU? (78)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-08-06 07:47 ID:eXui/RyR

So how long do you think it will be before such technoloogy is widely availble to the public?
10 years? Maybe 25?

69 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-07-03 19:28 ID:Heaven

I'd be more interested in a 128-qbit quantum computer.

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72 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-14 06:48 ID:EtHDlgt9

There technically are 512 bit cpus but they arent rrally exciting.. the intel xeon phi, i think its only the floating point par that is 512 but so just numwber crunching for science

73 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-18 03:06 ID:MMJ9UbIf

Consumer desktops and laptops are still being sold with 4 or 8 GB of RAM (every so often you see one with 12 GB of RAM these days) and neither Windows nor standard software has gotten bloated enough to render this insufficient. Meanwhile I use a computer with 32 GB of RAM and an 8 core processor in my laboratory for sequence alignment. Moore's law stopped working as advertised in 2005, so I expect that this state of affairs will continue until either a)quantum computing comes along and upsets things or b)technical progress in computers finally comes to a halt and information technology becomes another ossified industry that was once cutting edge, like cars or petrochemicals. The way things are looking now, I think that quantum computing will be developed the year after they figure out controlled nuclear fusion and world peace.

74 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-20 04:15 ID:utulLfD9


At this point even an 8 Qbit (or a full quantum byte) computer would be good. From what I heard the max they have achieved so far is something like 5 Qbits or some other odd number.

75 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-23 04:45 ID:ppmr2UEt

It doubles about every 10 years

1980 - 8 bit
1990 - 16 bit
2000 - 32 bit
2010 - 64 bit
2020 - 128 bit
2030 - 256 bit
2040 - 512 bit
2050 - 1024 bit
2060 - 2048 bit
2070 - 4096 bit
2080 - 8192 bit

76 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-09-10 06:33 ID:WzPGZq83


> Google, using an array of 9 superconducting qubits developed by the Martinis group and UCSB, accurately simulates a hydrogen atom.

and there's this nonsense:

77 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-09-30 03:41 ID:Heaven

and now d-wave has built an even bigger fake quantum computer ("2000 qubits").

78 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-10-14 09:18 ID:Ns4QBtzr

That would be lots of data! xddd

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Bionic Eye helps the blind see low-res B&W video (8)

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2014-09-09 00:49 ID:YK7cFlej

I wackyparsed the title as "helps the blind see low-res BBW video," and thought, "Oh my God, who'd want to see that? Not even the blind!"

3 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2014-09-09 13:48 ID:O0l6bc7a

I guess this is meant to aid those with postpartum blindness?

4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2014-09-10 23:16 ID:e7v3HBRZ

Having eyeballs that can record everything you see in ultra high definition and have a built in zoom function would be neat, but I'd prefer to keep the eyes I got currently.

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6 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-12-14 00:14 ID:R9nd4PmX

The bad thing though is that as soon as they get it perfected someone's gonna figure out out a way to make you watch advertisements on them.

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Good book for physics? (11)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-01-04 14:57 ID:HS2QYv7A

Hello. Coming out of high school with little practice in physics and science, what would be a good book to bridge the high school - university gap? Preferably with little to no color, drawings etc as I would like to print it out and read places that are not at my computer.

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-01-04 18:20 ID:jt7Y8VaJ

Depends on the extent to which you want to pursue physics. In general I would recommend practically any pop-sci book, for example those from the likes of Michio Kaku, Brian Greene, Richard Feynman to name a few. At your level these will serve the purpose of easing you into more abstract concepts; namely quantum/relativistic physics. Hell, even Einstein's popularization "Relativity: The Special And General Theory", almost a pamphlet, will give you a bit of grounding in the area.

Most of all I think Feynman, being basically the father of quantum electrodynamics, is a good starting point. So try his "Six Easy Pieces" first. If you like his style, look for his collection of lectures on physics. These are renowned for their clarity, breadth and insight. It's meant for college freshmen, progressing quickly from mechanics to thermodynamics, electromagnetism. I couldn't really give a better description, however, because I haven't actually read any of it.

3 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-06-30 18:31 ID:P3/PZnm9

>Michio Kaku NO
>Brian Greene NO

These two are speculative at best, and Kaku hits the bong. Seriously.

>Richard Feynman VERY YES,

Get the Lectures On Physics from the second hand book store, because you will be putting notes in the margin. Some things may be dated [especially his insistence on the mystery of QM as there isn't any such thing; it's just probability calculus with complex numbers]

And I found this online, how wonderful is that:

4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-07-14 19:17 ID:jt7Y8VaJ

Even if speculative, the foundation for their investigations is solid knowledge (up to QCD and the color charge, at least). And he'll be getting to that stuff anyway, so it would be prudent to at least begin thinking about the subatomic universe.

5 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-07-20 21:19 ID:hwmDVkIn

Start with this: Mechanics by L D Landau and E.M. Lifshitz.
If you can't manage it,, then there is no hope for you.

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7 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-11-29 14:43 ID:Heaven

I saw a book "Manga Guide to Physics" on Amazon the other day. I was kind of curious how it is, but I was reluctant to buy it.

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9 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-03-28 22:57 ID:pMas4L6g

Surely important to make sure Bridge from gravity to quantum mechanics.

and from Atomic orbitals to Periodic table of the elements.

10 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-04-11 02:20 ID:lNWxKz0N


is that the one where they explain stuff from manga and anime like how the pokeball works or goku's commie-ha-ha from dragonball?

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Using a molecule as a basic transistor (4)

1 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-06-02 16:53 ID:+DNSkkNO
"Wolkow said his team demonstrated that a molecule could be controllably charged by a single atom while all adjacent atoms remained neutral."

"Basically, Wolkow's transistor works like this:
The natural electrostatic field from a single silicon atom is permitted to flow through a hydrocarbon molecule bonded to a silicon crystal substrate. One end of the molecule is the "in" electrode, and the other is the "out" electrode; the electricity is then conducted through the hydrocarbon molecule to the tip of a hovering electron tunneling microscope. The microscope tip is the "controlling" electrode -- the on/off switch."

2 Name: Alexander!DxY0NCwFJg!!muklVGqN 2005-06-03 04:36 ID:Heaven

Coming soon: single-quark transistor.

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