Science @4-ch

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基本的には英語の使用を強く希望します。ただ日本語板の場合は日本語か英語。
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1: Psychology is a fake science (83) 2: What is the meaning of life (7) 3: Defuse a volcano? (23) 4: Endocrine disrupting and Asthma-associated chemicals in hair products used by Black women (3) 5: Silicon based life, has anybody tried this? (5) 6: Alternate Shuttle Aces Early Test (5) 7: Pluto not a planet ;_; (44) 8: Evolution is a DIRTY LIE (129) 9: Here's how much money doctors actually make (2) 10: Let's think how to cure the 'baldness' (24) 11: Higgs field, Bose condensate, quantum fluctuations, inertia (31) 12: Would you break Number Code? (4) 13: Public debate on the (in)effectiveness of homeopathy (4) 14: When will they come out with a 256 bit OS or 1024 bit CPU? (78) 15: Bionic Eye helps the blind see low-res B&W video (8) 16: Good book for physics? (11) 17: Using a molecule as a basic transistor (4) 18: U F O (34) 19: theory (17) 20: We are living in a simulation (59) 21: Planetary Wind Speeds (10) 22: The science of economics (pro). (8) 23: Internet, teach me math (8) 24: Earth's Magnetic Field Polarity Reversal (11) 25: [Debate] The Problem of Evil [Religion] (79) 26: Should CERN Deactivate the Large Hadron Collider? (7) 27: There are no scientific threads on this page (11) 28: Randall Museum (1) 29: Curiosity has landed on Mars! (4) 30: The "Terminator" arm on a man who lost his right arm six years ago. (2) 31: Is the Universe Finite - or Infinite (You thoughts) (50) 32: What is a specific name of this fish? (2) 33: Maximum temperature? (2) 34: What do you think of this? The disadvantage of Smarts. (5) 35: What Makes People Go Psycho? (37) 36: iPhone program enables the blind to text! (9) 37: Russian Inventor Patents Invisibility Cloak (11) 38: ((゚)Å(゚))Tokai amateur radio earthquake prediction society (10) 39: Liquid/organic circuits (14) 40: Enigmatic Marks (2)

Psychology is a fake science (83)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-15 17:04 ID:ZFLs2k2Q

So I was looking at my university's psychology course materials today and I realised that null hypothesis testing is abused to the point of meaninglessness by social scientists and that's one of the reasons why psychologists aren't real scientists.

PROVE ME WRONG

74 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2010-09-27 22:55 ID:LY1pVnoX

I studied psychology. Because it's a young science you're gonna encounter lots of eclectic information that together ought to enhance your view of the human psyche. The process of psychological research itself is very disappointing though, disappointing enough that I feel embarrassed about my field. Psychological studies have a tiny signal to noise ratio: the vast majority of studies published in psychological journals are utter crap. Methodological carelessness, bad constructs, fake references,... One study showed that half of studies were actually completely worthless. 43% were not completely worthless, but still had enough flaws to make 'em unfit for publishing. 7% was worth publishing. (A psychologist can only hope this study is valid for meta-studies as well, therefore including itself in its domaine, and therefore partially invalidation its own conclusion based upon its own conclusion.)

That 7% contains biased research: a physicist does not enter the field because he has personal quibbles with gravity. But a social scientist diagnosed with schizophrenia might just start a personal quest against his diagnosis. There are so many levels on which you can influence and skew your research, it's foolish to believe controversial topics surrounded with lots of different agenda's get threated objectively.

So assuming social researchers are competent, sane and honest, there's still some basic limitations concerning psychological research. There's such a heavy reliance on statistics that many studies have to be repeated lots of times before one can eliminate chance entirely, and can reach meaningful conclusions. Just think of questionnaires, and how much effort you usually put into accurately completing them, and you should get an idea how such measurement can be problematic.

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75 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2010-11-06 17:12 ID:SYZdoX2r

>>73

What do you mean by "the Mathematics award"?

76 Name: A SMART KITTY KAT : 2010-11-19 12:09 ID:Uv8thh+9

>>75
MAYBE HE IS MEANS THE SEINFELDS MEDAL

77 Name: A real scientist : 2011-06-20 05:56 ID:xnTgJo2N

Psych is certainly a real science that is being attempted by fake scientists. A psychologist knows nothing about biology (they think they do because they took that class one time...). Everything we are is a function of our biology and that includes our behavior. That behavior is madadted in the brain which is controlled by electrochemical signals. A psychologist does not have the background to understand neurology. Neuropsychology is legitimate because real scientists are evaluating behavior based off biological principles.

78 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-06-26 11:59 ID:U6sc08Bq

To OP: is this a kind of IQ test? From basic logic point of view, your statement does noet even make sense. You bring no evidence. There's nothing in it supporting your obvious assumption that you're right.

79 Name: a : 2011-07-09 05:37 ID:LkzfS569

銃とかに反応する、生物を使った呪いがあるんだけど
その関係で、TVゲームの銃声に反応した人が電力関係に呪いをかけたらしい
日本のカルト宗教が電気を供養しようとしたり
頭の悪い行動がかなり増えてるw

本当に、日本大丈夫か?

80 Name: Guest : 2012-09-08 12:25 ID:mJXPClQ8

The problem I have had with psychologists is that if you try to present evidence that another doctor has taken your blood, done DNA analysis, and concluded that you have say an intersexed DNA which is the cause of your "autism" (learningdisabilities+speaking irregulaties) .. the psychologists simply responds "people are born male or female" and dismisses the notion of biological cause->effect. That is what they are taught in school. Psychologists are NOT scientists in the slightest.

81 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2012-09-09 10:11 ID:F1PFwH2f

>>80
What is "intersexed DNA"? DNA does not have a sex. It's a macromolecule.
Are you referring to a chromosomal abnormality such as Klinefelter's syndrome?

82 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2012-09-09 15:42 ID:1vh8LsRX

>>72
Like meteorology and weather forecasts.

83 Name: DennyPhantom : 2018-12-27 00:23 ID:SSbxtadD

If we talk about data analysis and web development, then I know one good service that deals with such things. And also developed for iOS and Android. Here is a link to their article on data analysis https://onix-systems.com/blog/things-you-should-know-about-types-of-data-analysis . I think with this knowledge it will be easier to navigate the topic of web development.

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What is the meaning of life (7)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-10-14 09:25 ID:7ue8lWQv

What

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-10-14 09:26 ID:7ue8lWQv

Thats gay, mate

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4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-01-20 15:45 ID:ZpOsFhEK

Life is meaningless.

5 Name: James Tiberius Kirk : 2017-01-27 03:04 ID:I2ET+xh/

Everybody knows the meaning of life is 42!

6 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-03-07 17:51 ID:97EUB4xW

dicks out for Harambe

7 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2018-11-01 05:37 ID:xva4i63r

I think >>6 is on to something.

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Defuse a volcano? (23)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-10-27 19:42 ID:Yc4D7ZOM

As this is the ever-highly speculative Science board, I put to you a highly speculative scenario: Are you a bad enough dude/construction company/government agency/super villain to stop a volcano? Can you think of a way to take enough energy out of the equation to make a volcano sputter rather than explode?

I say this with the threat of Uturuncu popping its top sometime soon and potentially messing with the weather even worse than Pinatubo did. Also, I'm all about job creation...

Don't hold back! I want to hear crazy ideas.

14 Name: Spike : 2011-12-01 09:11 ID:hldAjPWa

Anybody remember that episode of the Transformers where the Decepticons were draining off the heat of the Earth to fill their energon cubes and it got so cold that you could have a snowball fight in the desert in the middle of July?

15 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-12-31 14:50 ID:veQXhOEn

If you injected a powerful agent to lower the viscosity of the melt, it would decrease explosive potential. You could heat up the melt a lot while simultaneously introducing iron or other heavier elements to lower the silica content, which would also lower the viscosity and decrease likelihood of powerful eruption.

To complete stop a magma chamber, you would have to bore into the magma and insert miles-long rods of a material with a really high thermal conductivity constant. This could be supplemented with a dessication (de-watering) compound to lower the solidus of the melt and induce crystallization.

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17 Name: Hitler's Gas Bill : 2017-01-10 19:26 ID:3aP2bG+I

How about sand? Cheap, otherwise useless, and easy-to-access.
Plus, free glass, right?

18 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-10-16 08:40 ID:XwUbjuU1

Yellowstone Super-Volcano eruption imminent!

19 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2018-01-16 21:20 ID:jY5GkLEv

>>18
I have a special porn folder ready for that day.

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21 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2018-04-26 01:37 ID:jdaHTFmh

You could probably earn more than a million bucks by defusing volcanoes.

22 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2018-05-15 20:51 ID:lxGeI8ry

Someone needs to defuse the Kilauea volcano before it blows its top and kills us all!!

23 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2018-08-20 19:05 ID:jdaHTFmh

>>22
Kilauea is a shield volcano which means it never does anything except gently burp lava. The only people it's going to kill are locals and dumb tourists, and even that's only likely if there's another pyroclastic flow like in 1790.

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Endocrine disrupting and Asthma-associated chemicals in hair products used by Black women (3)

1 Name: Black citizenry/diaspora : 2018-05-01 09:32 ID:Wu/RiCea

"Measurement of endocrine disrupting and asthma-associated chemicals in hair products used by Black women" (Journal Source: ScienceDirect) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118301518
Highlights
•Hair products for Black women contained mixtures of endocrine disrupting chemicals.
•Hair relaxers for children contained regulated or restricted chemicals.
•All tested products contained fragrance chemicals.
•Seventy-two percent of products contained parabens and diethyl phthalate.
•Eighty-four percent of detected chemicals were not listed on the product label.

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2018-05-03 07:19 ID:keLBi1/E

I love fucking black chicks

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Silicon based life, has anybody tried this? (5)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2012-04-21 07:52 ID:/D9C9Ntc

Basically it is a variation of the experiment performed by Stanley Miller and Harold Urey in 1952 where you take water vapor, methane, ammonia, and hydrogen, then run a current through it to produce simple amino acids. Only in this variation we would replace the methane (CH4) with silane (SiH4). Has this experiment every been attempted it and if it has what were the results?

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2012-04-29 10:12 ID:onORqr+d

As it turns out Silane is highly volatile and reacts violently in air. Perhaps DiSilane (Sih6) can be used instead?

3 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2012-07-14 17:03 ID:0cHiNp+q

In decades past there was considerable theoretical interest in the idea of silicon-based life, but it turns out that silicon does not behave quite exactly like carbon. Silicon-silicon bonds are not as strong as carbon-carbon bonds, so the sort of enormous and complex carbon-based molecules required by life as we know it (proteins, etc.) are unstable when silicon is substituted for carbon.

See also,

http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/astrobio/feat_questions/silicon_life.cfm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemistry#Silicon_biochemistry

This is not to say that life evolving in an environment where soluble silicate and silane compounds were common could not have carbon-based biochemistry with bits of silicon-based compounds here and there that might have unusual and useful properties, but that is just speculation.

4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2012-09-20 20:17 ID:Ewm6MFEG

It's clear that Silicon atoms cannot be substituted for Carbon in our proteins, our DNA etc etc. But that does not mean Silicon cannot be base of some completely different life.

The main obstacle in my opinion is not only the fact that carbon is way more versatile in creating complicated structures, but also that it is way more abundant in the universe. For a silicon-based life to appear spontaneously, we would first need some mechanism creating planets with a lot of silicon and little or no carbon ... and quite probably "unnatural" concentrations of many more elements.

So maybe when our scientists master carbon-based abiogenesis in their test tubes, they may try to find out how to achieve similar outcome with silicon. But for now when it's not even clear what is needed for carbon-based life to arise from anorganic materials, it's a bit too early to try to construct it from silicon.

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Alternate Shuttle Aces Early Test (5)

1 Name: Sling!XD/uSlingU 2005-06-18 22:38 ID:AkNxVz0/

http://wired.com/news/space/0,2697,67876,00.html
"A new spacecraft has been successfully dropped off a launch jet into a vertical, midair blastoff position, an important innovation that could simplify future space launches. [See photos]"

Okay, what about the Gs for the passengers/pilot?
This thing is freefalling. Even if the engine kicks in right away (not too fast, else they may hit the plane ^^;), I think it still gonna be a hell of a ride.

2 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-06-19 13:24 ID:4BXskfUx

Accelerating to orbital velocity will always be a rough ride if you do it by thrust alone. Orbital velocity is some 7000-8000 km/s, so the little bit of extra velocity you get from the freefall is pretty much nothing.

3 Name: GearheadX 2005-07-04 14:45 ID:uHz1Zg0V

Escape velocity never changes.

It's alawys escape velocity.

4 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-05 12:54 ID:gL8cDKsA

>>3

...yes?

5 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-10-03 18:37 ID:gIdtBZv1

ride my rocket

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Pluto not a planet ;_; (44)

35 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-07-31 23:48 ID:XXiAckVX

>>34

> boku

This is not an English word why did you say it

> no

This is not an English word why did you say it

> kokoro

This is not an English word why did you say it

> no
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36 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-01 19:39 ID:hAhvoLPp

>> no
>This is not an English word why did you say it

yes it is

37 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-03 00:57 ID:Heaven

>>35

That was not an amusing post why did you make it

38 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-03 01:37 ID:Heaven

>>36
no, it's not. you're thinking of "no" as opposed to "no".

39 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-03 08:11 ID:Heaven

I can feel a "Post deleted by moderator." coming...

40 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-04 11:41 ID:Heaven

>>39

Can you now.

41 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2007-08-10 06:04 ID:Heaven

>>40
It's as if millions of voices suddenly cried out against censorship and were suddenly silenced.

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43 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-11-20 06:27 ID:sTLdiL1K

fuck you 2016 anon

44 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-10-02 22:01 ID:pLm27skz

Pluto is a dog.

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Evolution is a DIRTY LIE (129)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-16 15:43 ID:fM7LLXTR

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/AdoptedText/ta07/ERES1580.htm

> 1. The aim of this report is not to question or to fight a belief – the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent belief from opposing science.

Stopped reading there.

There is NO evidence of evolution. It is a belief. Objective science doesn't support evolution no matter how many frauds and hoaxes are fabricated to support evolution. The truth always trickles out.

Life doesn't just happen. That alone totally defies the Laws of Science.

The Judeo Christian G-D, made it happen. G-d is the Author of all science. It is no coincidence that leading evolutionists are atheists. THAT is by design. These atheistic evolutionists do not find G-d acceptable in their premises. Their premise is that there is NO G-D.

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122 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-09-02 18:13 ID:nSZLHB+a

Would you have sex with something that evolved from an ape?

123 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-09-06 20:10 ID:Heaven

>>122
I'm asexual, so no, I wouldn't have sex with anything.

124 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2015-09-10 17:57 ID:segyI+0X

>>123
Too bad. It's interested in you anyway.

125 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-18 03:13 ID:5TNG0Gm5

In the Old Testament, there are many references made to God leading the Israelites out of bondage in Egypt with a "strong hand and outstretched arm." There, reference to God's hand is clearly metaphorical, as he uses the plagues to free the Israelites, not a giant hand. God is a transcendent being, and thus does not have hands in the human sense. I think that the same is true of where it says in Genesis 2 that God formed man from dust he had gathered; God acts through the natural processes He created to carry out his will, as befits a being of His stature. However, the Bible occasionally using figures of speech should not be taken to detract from its spiritual truth.

126 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-07-23 04:50 ID:UuH/njL9

>>1
If life spontaneously appearing defies the "Laws of Science", as you call them, what property of the entity you refer to as "G-d" allows it to create life, in violation of the "Laws of Science"? If this entity can circumvent the "Laws of Science", can they really be said to be laws? And if as you say this entity is responsible for the creation of life, does that not imply that the "G-d" entity is not itself alive?

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128 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2016-11-02 16:56 ID:usdMZ3Fw

The Prophet Mohammad (pieces of shit be upon him)

129 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2017-08-19 18:29 ID:DHAQ3Sv+

I made a LINE stamp.
https://line.me/S/sticker/1534511
Please use it if you like i

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Here's how much money doctors actually make (2)

1 Name: Medscape via Business Insider : 2017-04-06 07:19 ID:uTlIvUUm

Not all doctors take home the same amount of money. Here's who earns the most and the least by specialty. Race plays a surprising role, too.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-doctors-make-2017-4

2 Name: Medscape via Business Insider : 2017-04-07 02:28 ID:1PnfSwqB

Correction: Race plays a role, too.

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Let's think how to cure the 'baldness' (24)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-05-07 12:15 ID:GCq3ZssS

you do not need to suffer from baldness

15 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-06-04 00:24 ID:YXp20Hqs

>>13

Pfft... No way. Although a sweet ride and powerful weapons are certainly sexy, any alien babes that are attracted to your future bald self over another gun-toting spaceship captain with a full head of luxurious hair would most certainly be reptilian or... soy-based, not sexually compatible at all.

16 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-06-04 15:25 ID:xuoyF9tg

less thinking = less balding

alas

17 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2009-06-21 15:30 ID:YXp20Hqs

>>16

Don't think; Feel

18 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-05 17:46 ID:kt1PhS8q

Bald people are more evolved than the non-bald...we humans no longer have need for hair, so it is evolving away. In the future all the humans will be bald, those that aren't will be looked down upon...

19 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-09 07:25 ID:mDjaXBe7

>>16
Name any bald scientist you can think of. Oh, wait. You can't.

20 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-09 17:00 ID:kt1PhS8q

21 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-12 01:21 ID:mDjaXBe7

>>20
Well, that's one.

22 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2011-08-21 18:33 ID:Heaven

>>20
That's not a scientist.

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