[Debate] Is God real? [Religion] (445)

237 Name: not an Athiest : 2007-10-11 01:41 ID:Heaven

> the god of atheism

Strawman. Atheism rejects all gods. This is the very definition of the atheism. Whether it's logical or scientific is up for debate. But we're not debating the validity of Atheism, we're debate the existence of God. (Yes, there is a large difference)
The comparison is invalid because time is not a god in any scientific sense. It's finite, limited in 'power', has no worshippers, and likely will one day cease to exist. We can also see it's effects, so we know it's real or 'real enough'.

You may be confusing atheism with science. They are not mutually exclusive, but are not the same.

> a dinosaur became a chicken?

Strawman. This is the same argument as monkeys 'becoming' humans. Not even creationists use this long-dead fallacious argument.

> Your proof relies on the assumption that God DID NOT create the different species. This is 'question begging.'

False. We also make the assumption that:

  • the world did not pop into existence spontaneously 15 minutes ago, with your fictional memories of it existing before then being fraudulent.
  • that other people do exist, have minds, and are not robotic shells
  • our nervous system (for the average person) reveals an reasonably accurate interpretation of the world around us

All these are reasonable assumptions. If any of these were true, we'd have to prove it was true. The same goes for any god(s) and/or goddess(es).
By making these assumptions, we have a foundation to base our beliefs on (all of science, religion, and philosophy). If you wish to reject these assumptions and invalidate all human knowledge, then we can further discuss our collective course of action here:
http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1165280951/

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