[Debate] Is God real? [Religion] (445)

365 Name: proofthatgodexists.org : 2008-03-29 20:06 ID:tN73GGSG

By observing it with my own five senses.
How do you know that your senses, or the reasoning with which you interpret them are valid? Surely you would agree that knowledge cannot be attained through invalid senses or reasoning?

I don't understand why knowledge would be impossible without God. Please elaborate.
In order to know anything, one would have to know everything or have revelation from someone who does, else it would end in an infinite regress of 'and how do you know that?' The Christian claim is that God has revealed some things to us, in such a way that we can know them for certain (i.e. murder is wrong, love is right). So if you were to ask me, how I know that murder is wrong, I would answer, 'because God has revealed this to us, and God knows everything.' Hopefully you can see from my point above that claiming knowledge is gained autonomously through the senses, doesn't cut it.

As for "proof", such a concept only exists in formal sciences such as logic and mathematics, and is necessarily based on a set of axioms.
Then that very statement would have to be invalid as it cannot be proven.

Is God an axiom
I would say that God has made himself evident to us, not that He is self-evident.

Cheers,

Sye

P.S. I don't know if you are the person that I have exchanged e-mails with, nevertheless, I appreciate4 your demeanour.

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