Thread to talk about actor Tom Hiddleston
Tom Hiddleston 1
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1382608996/
Tom Hiddleston 2
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1410345704/
>>700 If ISTL needs the massive re-edit and re-cut people are claiming, I'd be surprised to see it at anything before it officially opens.
>>701 Does it need re editing? I haven't seen that suggested on the test screening tweets - apologies if someone has posted this and I missed it.
>>703 TVM - I do remember these vaguely but I didn't pick up from the mentions that it was some wholesale re-edit, just the sort of tweaks one might expect after a test screening. Poor love - I do hope his pet project is received well but nothing about it has gone quite as well as expected, I feel (if you compare with news on CP).
>>704 I also thought it was some small details, but the lack of presence at any festival so far when even HR - that was still in post-production in May - managed to acquire 3 appearances at festivals and 2 of them in competition, makes it look like ISTL needed more then minor tweaks. Surely, in comparison to CP, the feedback for ISTL has been scarce, and the pseudo love story PR didn't help. What's more, it seems like TH himself is showing CP to his friends, but not ISTL. I just hope that if something is wrong with the film it's the film and not his performance.
>>704 I couldn't put it better myself. Plus, many of his fans seem to say, in a nice way, not my cup of tea. Meanwhile Hank's fans aren't so minded to like it. And the singing. I watched some of the Wheatland videos for the first time today. I know he hadn't been practising for long but I found it toe curling. It's like the Thor screentest all over again. Play to your strengths. You do not have the voice of an angel or the bod of Chris Hemsworth but it's ok.
>>706 They are, aren't they? I'm surprised because one year ago you would hardly find anyone saying that. The singing, in fairness, if you listen to Hank William he was just as bad, the compositions are nice and so are the lyrics, but he was a terrible singer, so that is the least of worries.
>>707 mind you his fans are a funny lot (us excluded obviously). Many of them were up in arms about the (totally unsurprising) turn that GDT's kinkiness takes. (I won't say more as I know some on here have tried to avoid spoilers). Anyway then they saw his bum on the international trailer and suddenly they are all ok with it again!!
Thinking about it maybe they are editing in a scene where Hank plays the gee-taar in the nude.
>>708 haha I wonder if they remember what GdT said about his idea of what is kinky. Which reminds me of the disgusted face TH made when a journalist at SDCC asked him about "how incestuous is the incest in CP". he isn't very comfortable with the kinky.
>>709 I hope not, he was so skinny for that role.
>> Wasn't the face of disgust due to the journalist spoiling the Totally Secret and Surprising Kinky Plot Twist (which I BET we don't see enacted on screen just as I BET we don't see the LokiPokeyStick, Guillermo you old troll, you)?
>>711 haha I BET with you that the bum is all we are going to see. (I call that his disgusted face because it's the face he made when he was at Chatty Man 2 years ago and he was shown that draw of Loki)
>>703 My info was from the Boston Herald (bad girl to not post!).
That the audience at a test screening of the Hank Williams biopic “I Saw The Light” wasn’t exactly cracking up at some of producer Brett Ratner’s jokes. During a discussion about the film to gather audience feedback, the Hollywood heavy responded to one young lady who thought some editing might help move the story along with a quip to the effect, “You’re really smart. Do you go to Harvard?” To another rather attractive audience member, he quipped, “Just so you know, I’m staying at the Four Seasons.” But Ratner did allow that he chose to do the test screen at the Kendall Square theater because “Boston audiences are smart.” Well, that’s no joke!
In truth, it's more about the produced being dismissive, but it does mention editing.
>>713 I can't abide chatty man so I only watched the dancing. Was it nekkid Loki art?
>>715 it was a drawing of Loki with a pole for poledance in an awkward position. Fastforward is before they are joined by the other 2 (whose names I can't quite remember)
>>714 Nice fellow. No wonder people didn't talk about the film on the internet in enthusiastic tones. "move the story along" feels like it might be a bit boring.
>>716 Aargh no YouTube either!!!
I do agree about him not being at home with the kink. He can come across as a bit prim.
I think TH is continuing his 'new adventures in PR' by showing CP around and hoping his friends/associates tweet about it so he doesn't have to.
I wonder if the same will happen with HR and ISTL? Mark Gatiss might have his movie nights sorted out for the next few weekends!
>>717 Yeah, Brett Ratner is about as dodgy as they come in Hollywood. He's got 'ewwwww' written all over him.
I love the idea of video night round at Tom's. He answers the door wearing his grandad cardigan and he says "when the film is over I had some songs to play you on the guitar!"
>>718 oh yes, you are in China. This one works for sure, just wait for the countdown.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjI5MzkwODUy.html
>>723 Thank you. Though now I feel defiled by the obscene chatty man fan art!
>>724 yes, on reflection I should have told you about it :)
On the subject of ISTL
This is what makes me want to punch whomever devised the pap stroll. Before that night, a fair number of people were excited about ISTL - this was his Oscar bait, this was him stepping out of his comfort zone, this was him going all method (moving in with Rodney, practicing his singing morning and night, losing weight when he does have a lot extra to lose. Sure, there were skeptics, but people were interested!
Now - in part because of the fandom meltdown (I know there are other problems) - people seem to be turning away from it.
I'm sure TH is listening to a lot of Cher and singing 'If I could turn back time' as he updates his Facebook pic, because I would bet that he would do things so differently with hindsight.
There was NO need for Pap Night '15. None. Have your relationship, build it up from 'hooking up' to 'let's go try cake samples!' or keep it at whatever level you're happy with. Let desperate fangirls snap photos of you at every cafe in London, let people speculate, let them tweet 'Are you going out!!! I have to know' at your account...but don't publicize it - just don't. Don't publicize it to make it official and don't publicize it to get people talking. Just be in a private relationship and keep things private - like you've said you wanted all along.
Crap, did I just write an essay?
>>721 It tweets that it liked the movie or it gets the hose!!
Mark Gatiss is so deliciously wrong that he might go for the hose.
>>726 It was completely out of character for him, not only the story itself, the pap walk too. Of course, anything can be in life, but it was so obvious that he would have nothing to gain from it, that it makes you wonder why he would deliberately choose to damage his reputation.
But that is why, while exploring all possibilities, we all said it didn't make sense, didn't we? The only person that gained from that kind of PR is a blondie that lives in LA and has personal relationships with scarves.
And I didn't see much of a fan meltdown really, I think if something put people off this film is the PR element and the homewrecking possibility, not the fact that he has a gf in general. Which reinforce the idea that it didn't make sense for him to publicise it, unless EO is the love of his life and in that case you bloody walk beside your gf, not 4 metres ahead.
To be fair though, so far all we have is a photo of him with an arm on her shoulder - which in THland is the equivalent of the American "Hey" - and two people who went to theatre and dinner and then went their separate ways. Whether that meant the end of something that was going on before, or the beginning of something that Pap Night '15 put an end to, or just 2 friends, we'll probably never know, but somehow I think TH's is very happy he will be busy filming Kong when ISTL will be released. His tweet certainly sounded so.
Obviously after writing all this, at the first red carpet he'll prove me wrong and be hand in hand with EO, haha
>>728 'at the first red carpet he'll prove me wrong and be hand in hand with EO'
For some strange reason, I think this may be the case. CP is debuting in LA, after all. EO could probably walk to the premiere from her house. But we shall see.
It goes without saying that TH WILL absolutely show up hand in hand with Luke. It's nice to have something to rely on in this fandom.
>>729 You mean she won't be at TIFF? Or in Zurich? Or in San Sebastian? They are going to make me wait 2 months!
Jokes aside, the LA's premiere for CP is tentatively set for October 12th, but since the release date for the US and the UK is the same, Oct. 16th, London's premiere will be the same week. And TH will have to attend the BFI LFF for HR, so he is more likely to attend the London's premiere and then leave for Atlanta for Kong.
>>729 No, she's only contracted for appearances in London and LA.
She'll send Tall Brunette, National Theatre Mystery Blonde and It's His Sister to the other appearances.
DUH!
>>731 Joking aside - Never!
He's pretty good at flying visits and racking up the air miles. I wouldn't be surprised to see him make all the premieres and festivals. And maybe break the laws of physics to do so...and end up looking like a zombie in the process.
Should we place bets on if, when, or where EO will show?
I'm going to say:
BAM! Give me all the monies NOW.
I'm not so sure we'll see them anywhere other than ISTL premiere, for 2 reasons. First, CP looks to be the big commercial and critical success of the year for him and I am not sure he will want to contaminate the stream by making it all about his relationship (which it would be because attending a red carpet together sends a definite message). Second, looking at the timeline and subsequent weeks' events I am not sure they are as serious as she/US Weekly would now have us believe. He has the kind of fans who take pics and post on Twitter, and a rumoured relationship, and yet it took from May to July for a pic to surface, only a couple of days after someone first said they're spending time together in London. No visit to set to Majorca though I think she had finished filming. And in London, lots of sightings of EO alone at places where you might expect a new boyfriend to be there to be shown off (at Babington House); then purse night after which they go their separate ways and no subsequent sightings. No more hanging out even though it is said she has no filming in Berlin and his schedule is empty. When you're in the lived up honeymoon stage don't you spend every available moment together? I am not saying just friends - I do think there was something there - but he first US Weekly article was I suspect pretty close to the truth. They had a fling on set and they liked each other enough to keep in touch. Then they decided to see each other in real life, but no particular hurry to meet as soon as they were free. Then publicity bomb. The U.S. Weekly second article, in my view pure fantasy from her after he (probably) runs for cover.
>>733 yep. I would only add she wasn't at Wimbledon. Bad sign.
and while it feels like something might
have happened, at the same time I don't feel like ruling out the just friends yet, because it's TH. I don't think he will ever trust a girl that dumped his fiancé to be with another guy in a matter of weeks. And if he wanted a fling, there are less complicated people to have it with. People that won't use the him and the paps.
>>734 thank you!
>>735 I had forgotten about Wimbledon. Good point.
As to whether he would go with a girl who dumped her finace, I think the fling happened as part and parcel of his well documented method intensity about the project. Most people want to create a story around their own lives which they can buy into, and for him I wonder if it was going to be "intense [Oscar winning] role during which we realised that we were one another's one true love." The characters I believe had an entangled relationship too and so the complicated aspect of their own entanglement becomes almost part of the roles they play.
But that story ceases to sound so great when it starts from "well meaning dud that Hank and my fans didn't much like which didn't get picked up by any festivals and garnered no Oscar nominations as everyone preferred Miles Ahead." That doesn't lead on so neatly to the fairytale ending. I know that shouldn't rationally make any difference to how he sees the relationship now - either they like each other and want to be together or they don't - but human nature being what it is, I imagine it may. And so he's back to real life where he made an ok but not earth-shattering movie, and she was an on set fling who dumped her finance to be with him and is now telling him via the press she wants to have his little babies. I doubt he has given it up completely yet (and he may still be hoping for the fairytale ending where they walk the red carpet together as lovers and Oscar nominees) but I don't sense much enthusiasm at the moment and that may not be entirely unrelated to the current slightly languishing fate of ISTL itself.
Finance instead of finance - I Freuded myself a bit there!!
Flipping heck spellcheck keeps autocorrecting fiancé to finance!
>>736 that is too much of a stretch for me. I know it seems like he went a bit method for Hank, but I think it stopped to his role, because he is also a very grounded person, with very grounded sisters. We are talking of a guy that after watching Amour he thought about it for a month, he likes to think about things extensively and he is not some newbie in his twenties that doesn't know that when the film ends things are going to feel differently. He has been doing this job for a long while.
I didn't mean to say he did it for the role, just that his feelings about the role provide a context for acting in a way he maybe wouldn't normally. There were a few signs he wasn't as grounded in reality as he usually is. He went all the way to LA wearing a prop wedding ring. I personally think it is odd to wear a wedding ring when you are not married and you are far from the location where you are playing a married person.
>>740 But Hank's marriage wasn't a happy one. And in that particular photoshoot he was playing a married guy, it was a wedding photo, Felicity Jones was dressed as a bride.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to force you to abandon your idea. But on one side you say: they got together because of the film and they went on because of those emotions, and because TH thought it was good PR for him, but now the film looks it won't do so well, so he doesn't like it so much anymore.
On the other, as you rightly pointed out, they didn't exactly hang out together after the film, well before Paps Night '15, and afterward.
To me the two rule out each other.
>>735 I think it will be awhile before we see TH at Wimbledon with a woman. JA seemed to have muddied those waters.
>>743 As an aside, DM's most used headline template is "______ displays her toned legs."
No the photo shoot is a homage to/knockoff of a scene in Bonnie and Clyde: http://www.hypable.com/famous-movie-scenes-recreated-benedict-cumberbatch-tom-hiddleston/ They weren't married in the film or in real life.
I see it as a holiday romance - they can be genuinely intense while you're on holiday together, but once you're home again, what? Texting and keeping in touch, maybe seeing each other a few months later to see if you still like each other. Seems to me be reasonably akin to what happened here.
Hey and next week they announce the burrito baby and we are both wrong ;)
>744 No the most used phrase by the Fail is "x showed off her post baby body" which means depending on context x is a fat cow or we hate x because she had a baby 2 weeks ago and looks like she never was pregnant.
Oh, Red Carpet Burritto Baby, we hardly knew ye.
Yeah, I don't know if we will ever understand the VF ring thing. ISTL prop, VF prop (showing lack of historical accuracy).
Just adds to the mystery of TH.
I think of it as the Beyoncé ring - he likes himself so he put a ring around it.
...his finger, perverts!
>>742 I can totally picture TH thinking "I'm bringing my PA so for this summer at least I won't linked on social networks and media with a gf who isn't a gf". And then bam, Paps Night'15 happens.
>>743 She is in LA! What?! lol
>>745 >>748 if they weren't married why they styled them as if they were! Stupid VF confusing me! :)
Re: The Ring
Maybe the stylist just wanted a moment when she got to slip a wedding ring on TH's finger.
Stylist: "Let's just put this ring on." (Imagining herself in white dress, in church, saying 'I do.')
Wouldn't blame the girl - not one bit.
I was re-reading the DM's article, they are backtracking a little aren't they?
It's not a fact anymore, they are rumoured now, and it's USWeekly (from its first article) that says they hooked up but they are keeping it casual. And the rumoured romance started after she broke off her engagement in January.
Even the caption on Pap Night'15's photo is interrogative.
"Romance? Elizabeth is rumoured to be dating Tom Hiddleston and was most recently seen with him in London on July 23"
>>752 DM backtracking? WHAT? They've still got the fan pic as being in May and in Oxford. They don't know their heads from their asses.
As for the question marks, the whole rag should be called 'Daily Mail?'
>>753 haha I know it's a rag, but I find funny how they go back and forth with the story. A few days ago they were describing it as the love story of the year.
>>753 Well, so far it's been the love story of July 20 - July 26, 2015? (The question mark was an homage to DM)
We'll see what the future brings. Maybe it will have a few more glorious and romantic six-day stretches!!
TH+EO 4ever?
TH+EO for July 20 - 26?
>>755 TH+EO??? will be the next DM headline
The title makes me laugh. Is Luke trying to answer some questions.
Aside from rags and tabloids and VF, media that talk about film are accurately avoiding mentions of the supposed love story. Whether it's because they know there was nothing or because they were asked by PR, I have no idea.
Not that TH will be able to avoid the question at TIFF, or will he?
(Someone at CB says TH's little sister got married this past weekend. I have no idea how they'd know.)
>>758 Maybe he'll use the Jedi mind trick...These are not the questions you want to ask!
And then there was one....
Mazel Tov, Emma! He must be getting a massage for those all-danced-out muscles!
Possibly someone saw an announcement in the Telegraph as with the engagement? I don't know.
If it was this weekend then Lady PF was not there as she was getting busy at the freebie event in LA. That (if true) would presumably put paid to any suggestion that the relationship was a serious one.
>>760 Is that artsy-fartsy semi-liberal family announcing in the Telegraph? I used to live in the UK, and I thought only Tories and other wanna-be conservatives announced in the Telegraph. Interesting.
Lady Purse Face! Oh, she'll never live that night down in this fandom. And rightly so. Liz, darling, that man has a double first in Classics - put your purse down and show some damn respect.
>>761 the engagement was announced on the Telegraph, but there's nothing about a wedding in the news. Her fiancé is the scion of an important family, they are also in the peerage, so if he got married there would be articles about it. And he would have said something on his instagram, I think. That's why I was wondering on what basis the poster would say that.
And TH was spotted in Soho yesterday, but I have no links to give you.
Review of someone who went to the Boston screening of ISTL
http://letterboxd.com/film/film:225063/
"I saw an early screening of the film. It may not have been fully finished. I'm sure that everyone involved will try to put this in front of awards season, but they should really think twice. It left me flat.
This is a bio-pic of Hank Williams, Sr. and his rise to fame and all the struggles he had with alcohol, pain and fidelity. We've seen this story many times at this point and the notes are just too familiar to produce compelling drama.
Tom Hiddleston and Elizabeth Olsen play Hank and his first wife Audrey Mae. They go through all the motions of a tempestuous relationship filled with passion, resentment and affection, but it all feels very surface level. Though Hiddleston bears a passing resemblance to Williams physically, he never brings dimension to the role. It feels very second hand.
I can't say much for the direction, either. The goal may have been a more matter-of-fact depiction. It doesn't work. Also crammed into this story are a series of interviews with executives and collaborators that come and go with no real impact or explanation as if the audience doesn't understand that Williams was a destructive personality."
>>764. Ouch. Maybe he/she was one of the people Brett Ratner was dismissive toward.
TH said he saw it and was proud of it, she repeats while rocking back and forth.
Beyond the personal taste about the direction and actors performances, those bits of documentary in between the film don't sound promising. And by cutting them out the film would result frammentary. No wonder SPC went for Miles Ahead.
Oh GOD. I know I have been the voice of doom about this being a dud but I secretly had hopes. Now dashed [sobs into iphone]
By the way even celebitchy is blocked out here. Even the daily fail sleb section. You are my only link to the outside world [sobs again]. No wonder their GDP is so high.
But hey it's not an unmitigated internet disaster as Weibo loads more quickly. Checks Torrilla. Oh. A picture of Loki coloured in with a tesseract ballpoint pen. Waiter! Another Cosmopolitan!
ISTL at TIFF
https://twitter. com/TIFF_NET/status/633642010742669313
It is under the 'Special Presentation' category.
Interspersed can be good - in Band of Brothers they had interviews with the real survivors. And the title of the series came from one of them quoting from Henry V - and that was one of the most moving scenes of the whole show.
>>773 Those interviews were at the very start or very end of the episodes, weren't they, not in the middle of the actual stories? (God, it's been about 10 years since I saw BoB!)
If the story is being broken up by interviews with real people, that would be a little stop-start. The actors and scenes should move a story along, not documentary interviews.
>>769 hahah!
Anon, do you want any news/updates? Or are you happy with pictures of Loki drawn with a tesseract pen?
God I can't remember. I watched it all back to back over a couple of days. Thinking about it, what made it moving was that you watched these scenes of unbelievable heroism, and then you see these little old guys and remember it was real and it was them.
>>775 let's just say I was a lot happier with the LokiColouring after the third cosmopolitan.
>>777 After three cosmos, I'm surprised you didn't do your own Loki drawing and submit it to Torrilla - along with a youku vid that started off with you slurring the words, 'I just want to tell you how much you mean to me, Torrilla...'
>>778 what can I say? Hotel Cosmo is long on cranberry but short on vodka.
And anyway torrilla refused to publish the vid because I was wearing my handbag on my head.
>>779 Oh, I was NOT judging! I'd be on double digits if I were on much-diminished internet.
Wearing your handbag on your face is all the rage, darling, haven't you heard?
>>771 Ah! now I want to see what happens on the RC! Doouble job for the man at TIFF, ISTL and HR.
Special Presentation is a competition isn't it?
>>781 I'm excited to see too, but also dreading the, what I'm sure will be countless, comparisons between how TH interacted with JC vs. EO. How he interacted with MW vs. EO. How he interacted with EO vs. GDT (his one, true 5ever love).
'He held JC's waist for 30 seconds, but only touched EO's for 10 seconds - I timed it with a stopwatch.' 'He used his happy smile for GDT, but his sad smile (whatever the hell that is) with EO.'
Mind you, I'm going to be getting out my fine-toothed comb to go over every pixel of those pictures!!
Also, TIFF being TIFF, I bet we'll get some off-carpet pics and reports about TH and EO's interaction.
If either of them - for whatever reason (including major surgery) - don't show up to TIFF - I will demand a do-over!!
Premiering at TIFF also means no Telluride.
>>782 I've no idea about what 'special presentation' entails, but if you look at some of the other films in the category - I don't recognize any of them!
>>783 Imagine they don't even touch each other! Or they get close for a photo and then don't look each other in the eye and then....No wait what? CP will be at TIFF?
>>786 Sorry!! Didn't make myself clear. I mean comparisons between the two red carpet events - not both at TIFF, but when they both happen.
>>785 I can't waste data connection browsing TIFF website, but on TIFF's wikipedia page it talks of winner for FIPRESCI Special Presentation these past years. FIPRESCI means: Fédération Internationale de la Presse Cinématographique.
So it should be a competition, one that you don't want to lose.
http://awardswatch.com/2016-oscar-predictions-best-actor/
Whoa - Don Cheadle came out of nowhere. I think a month ago, they had TH in 3/4th position. Remember, of course, that this is all based on some fairly preliminary info.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/jurassic-world-writer-heads-kong-816144
Some news on Skull Island. Including, shooting in Iceland and Vietnam - which is very different from the reports we've had of late.
Hopefully, the story can be tightened up by this writer, although a good number of fingers have been in this pie - which is never a good thing.
Am I the only person who cannot take seriously a leading lady named after cheese?
>>792 Gouda one, Anon. I camembert it myself! No whey do I want to see her in that role. Curd someone tell us if it's short for something - Brieanne?
PS - I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your server. Goodnight.
http://hiddenhiddlesgirl86.tumblr.com/post/127039446831/jossisgod-frenchfrostpudding-tom-hiddleston
Sighted...in pretty much the same outfit he's always seen in. Seems to be on the phone...with whom, inquiring minds want to know.
>>794 Well we know one thing, it probably wasn't a wardrobe stylist. Maybe his significant other, Olly.
>>795 Probably calling home to check up on his cowboy boots. At this point, they might have been away from each other for an hour or two.
From Hitflix about ISTL and TIFF:
"I Saw the Light"
Lowdown: There was some question where this late November release might debut and, much to AFI Film Fest's disappointment, Sony Classics decided to go with an earlier Toronto berth. Will Hiddleston join the best actor field? That's the big question surrounding this biopic.
Not sure what 'an earlier Toronto berth' signifies regarding Oscar push/Sony's marketing? Anyone have any ideas?
>>790 that's like the 3rd writer they get. Hopefully the last. I think the Iceland and Vietnam locations are from old news.
TIFF: HR and ISTL Sept 10-20
Calgary Festival: ISTL gala (Sept 23)
San Sebastian Festival: HR (Sept 19-26)
Zurich Festival: HR (Sept 24 – Oct 4)
No confirmation for the cast presence at Calgary at the moment though.
"No other guests have been confirmed for the galas yet, but executive director Steve Schroeder says the festival has invited I Saw The Light cast and writer-director Marc Abraham for the opening gala."
http://www.rodeocountryradio.com/country-news/2015/8/18/hank-williams-biopic-i-saw-the-light-to-open-calgary-international-film-festival