Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
I take it all back, the question was nuts. Though the main complaint seemed to be the rambling "I love you" intro which is a feature of many q&a, I would have thought.
TNM arrival and red carpet
http://ntv.movieplayer.it/embed/1Jd5Dn_6
Kong
Cast arrival in Vietnam
http://thanhnien.vn/van-hoa/cac-ngoi-sao-hollywood-phim-kong-skull-island-da-toi-ha-noi-668721.html
Press conference on Sunday with the cast
http://thethaovanhoa.vn/van-hoa-giai-tri/doan-lam-phim-kong-skull-island-se-ra-mat-viet-nam-n20160217102924943.htm
>>2 Ugh. I'm not even going to click through and watch/read. I'm going to pretend it never happened, yeah, if I don't read about it, it's like it never happened.
>>4 if you stay away from that report Whatsinaname posted and just watched the video, it's very funny, Hugh made fun of her in a very comical way.
>>5 I still haven't watched the video; does it show the whole rambling question or just the answer?
>>5 I still haven't watched the video; does it show the whole rambling question or just the answer?
Sorry for the double, my phone connection was dodgy. How do I have it removed?
BERLINALE red carpet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lLlBJhtIvM&feature=youtu.be&t=13m54s
https://twitter. com/ZDFberlin/status/700748027951058944?s=03
>>9 well well well. She sure has her share of detractors on Tomblr. She defended the poorly behaved fans outside the Donmar for Coriolanus and has gotten into nasty name-calling threads with posters.
>>11 should serve as lesson to be more wary of these tumblr bloggers.
By the way, I didn't find this myself, it was posted at the teatime blog.
The Guardian interview with Susanne Bier
>>11 >>12 She is the one in that first tumblr link I posted (about him appearing at Berlinale) who said she NEEDED to know if he was definitely going to be there as she was going to drop everything and fly from London to Berlin if he was. When I saw someone asked the scratching question I nearly jokingly posted that maybe it was her. How right I was. She is a right oddball. But there are some bloggers who are normal and have good info.
>>14 I didn't make the connection, but I can't say anything surprise me very much at this point, beanup, frenchy, the bycycle, his fans are just plain crazy.
>>15 There is an apologia pro vita sua on her tumblr page which makes toe-curling reading. She thinks TH wanted to hear the question and Hugh Laurie rained on her parade. What it tends to suggest is that Hugh Laurie is a very good judge of character who knew where this was going in 5 words.
>>16 She lives in her own little world, doesn't she? But then that's always the case with these types, it's never their fault, TH is obviously always in agreement with them, it's other people that keeps him from saying so.
John Le Carrè writes about TNM,
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/feb/20/john-le-carre-the-night-manager-television-adaptation
It's never a good thing when the crazy fans are more vocal and visible than the sane ones. Sadly, the loons always seem to be front and center so often, especially in his fandom.
Here we were thinking that we all knew - too well - who the most infamous TH fan was, but now there's a new contender for wonkiest egg in the basket. Sigh.
Welcome to 7 everyone!
>>16 I tried to read it, couldn't. I'll try again later.
The need for an apologia, especially one of that ridiculous length, suggests she's getting it in the neck big time from the online community. Good. I'd like to think HL's reaction - and the reaction of those on Tumblr and Twitter - would be a lesson, but I wouldn't put money on it.
>>11 It's always the ones that set themselves up as paragons of behavior that exhibit the worst behavior themselves. It's not surprising that she would think her question was appropriate if she thought the behavior of some Donmar fans was appropriate - and worthy of defense.
>>20 She is one of the ones I was thinking about when I said at the tail end of the last board that the superfans love to take the others to task for disrespecting his art by joking about the Hiddleconda. This particular individual is one of the chief offenders. I think she intended the question as some very earnest question about character in Unrelated but failed to see that a q&a about a different project 10 years later is not the time (or indeed to appreciate that the people who joke online about the Conda have the self-control to realise that if they meet him they shouldn't ask for measurements).
That fan in question is insane and she has a long sorted history in the TH fandom.
Bit of background: a few years ago she defended several fans who were accused of harassing Tom and chasing him down the street after Coriolanus. She is fond of the term "fan shaming" and used it against those who were calling these out of control fans out. I am finding it unbelievable that people on tumblr are defending her for what happened several days and putting Hugh Laurie on blast instead. Yes because her question about Unrelated was the most important thing of all at a film Q&A for a The Night Manager and how dare Hugh call her out on her out about her ridiculous question.
I was the one who just posted that, not sure why it's marked "couch potato".
>>23 There is a nice and normal tumblr person called enchanted by hiddles who lives in Berlin and went along. She said it was mortifying, but that HL was actually trying to be kind by deflecting away from the crazy.
The most revealing thing was the comment by the culprit that the q&a was "my big chance". I have come across this phenomenon before. My mother in law bought a white outfit for my wedding day (no. I wasn't Bridezilla, truly, but just no) and when I called this into question she said in an incredibly hurt voice, "But it's MY BIG DAY."
When will rabid fans get it through their heads that they're Not. Special. Snowflakes. Who deserve attention from celebs whenever they please...arrgh!
Would they have got it if someone had asked a question starting "when you played Loki, did you....?" There seems to be a misconception that because she asked a stupid question about an arty farty film that was ok.
Ah well. I would say I have a lot of sympathy for her as she is now being surrounded by all the other tumblr wingnuts with their flaming torches, aniyuer aspect of the fandom that I hate. However she has been the ringleader in that behaviour previously so I can't muster up much sympathy.
>>25 it's the board, it names anyone Couch Potato when you don't give a name.
>>28 one girl did it at the q&a for OLLA in Toronto in 2013, I seem to remember people giggled there too, but the girl didn't press. TH told later in an interview that the girl apoligised to him in person after the q&a.
>>26 '...said it was mortifying, but that HL was actually trying to be kind by deflecting away from the crazy.'
Undoubtedly true, but Miss Unrelated can't blame herself (fan perfection) or TH (delicate and understanding artiste whose huge dong we must not mention), so HL it is!
>>26 'My mother in law bought a white outfit for my wedding day.'
That's when you send in your maid of honor - and you send her in like a Sherman tank. You don't even touch that, you pass it along to your hard-nosed, enforcer MOH. It's the only true and valuable lesson I've learned from wedding prep.
>>27 Never. Poor TH. Maybe the sun isn't responsible for those wrinkles. Maybe it's dealing with his less-than-stable fans that's aging him.
>>32 My MIL and a Sherman tank could easily be confused with one another, even in daylight. I made my husband deal with it. Along with their request that we not leave the wedding reception for our hotel until we had hailed them a black cab.
I didn't even realize a new thread had started because the last one got full. And here I am checking the link everyday and thinking "hmm it's so quiet but so many pics and vids came out!" The flu has officially short circuited my brain.
>>26 your MIL thought it was HER day? Oh god oh jeez...no. Just no. I'm more in shock over that than the cringeworthy Q&A moment.
On that topic, her entire post pins the blame on Hugh Laurie for "hijacking her moment". Her moment of what? Her moment with Tom? A big long post that in a nutshell says - It's all Hugh's fault and Tom really wanted to answer her question but Hugh ruined everything with his stupid antics and just ugh but Tom was lovely and we could've had a moment but DAMN YOU HUGH LAURIE! eye roll The Internet is being very kind to her compared to how she's lambasted and cyber pitchfork mobbed other TH fans in the past.
>>35 Adored only child of elderly parents, no daughter to fuss over and be mother of the bride to. You can see that she might be a trifle invested in the day. After some years of marriage, I can laugh about it. At the time I wanted to go after her with the steak knives off our gift list, believe me.
Anyway, away from bridal politics and onto a more important topic. Since TNM isn't coming out in the US for another 5 years or something, are you Stateside peeps watching it on Iplayer via a proxy server? Or is anybody waiting? I seriously don't want to ruin anybody's fun with unintended spoilers.
>>37 I have methods that have worked with overseas shows in the past so I should be able to watch it within a day of airing. There's no way I'm waiting until April.
If anyone is saving themselves for AMC I may have to employ Anon's patent spoiler-free weekly review:
Tension: taut/average/flaccid
Plot: Byzantine/fine after a glass of wine/a five year old could follow it
Level of bromance: Thor-Loki/Mckellen-Stewart/Saunders-Trump
In this episode TH is: clothed/shirtless/bum out again/Michael Fassbender
>>39 We could always start a new thread specifically for TNM. That way we could have intense discussions about TH'S exact level of bum exposure without worrying about spoilers.
>>37 i'll be doing the same thing as anonsy. I can't remember the AMC U.S. start date but I'm not waiting that long. Tumblr Spoliers helped kill nearly every surprise in Crimson Peak, so I'm not going to let that happen again.
>>37 I'll be watching it live off the BBC (usingway away eoblockergay). The boy is working Sunday, so I'll be able to fangirl alone.
If enough people will be waiting, we could always use the 'Tim Hoddleston' thread to have spoiler-filled discussions. Those wanting/needing to wait could just not pop in. The Night Manager, starring Tim Hoddleston.
Or I could copy Anon and make a review system based on heart-eyes and Emmy statues a la twitter.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBukQhnpuh
Tim Hoddleston may have landed in Vietnam!! Tim Hoddleston!
>>42 I love the idea of using the Hoddleston thread. Poor bastard wants us to talk to him and tell him what we love about TH. He won't know what hit him!
Qaz is in Lithuania and Couch is in - well, heaven I guess. NewAnon - are you rebelling against AMC's schedule also? N8 is hanging in North London near me, anonymous is (I think!) UK based and who else do we have? M, anon1 - I always miss someone from the list.
>>43 Tim Hoddleston! Star of Kong King: Skall Islund and The Naght Minager!
>>45 Anon and other Brits will appreciate: As Jenathon Peen in The Naughty Minge
Oh, Lord, now I want a porn version of TNM. I want it NOW.
>>47 I have learned the word "minge" today, thanks to you and Urban Dictionary.
He makes my minge want to be naughty.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBwxToOFAa
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCB0yRrl8_I/
Seems the guitar was TH's.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCB4L4wx7Y7
Gifts? A branch? Maybe a local custom? My global IQ only extends to NATO countries.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCB5HwTwFHj
That's it for me. Nighty-night.
>>44 I don't really mind spoilers in general so I won't mind any TNM spoilers. Even if it's in a separate thread, I'll still lurk and read them hehehe
The Vietnam airport pics! He looks so cute in them. Something about his face is so delightfully and adorably boyish whenever he's happy or excited.
>>44 heaven has the best reception :) Couch will use the underground world of the internet to watch the TNM.
Little reminder guys, do no post links to download the tvshow.
>>49 He was playing guitar on the plane?
>>50 It's cherry blossom. It's more or less the lunar new year and Hanoi is renowned for its blossoms. I don't think handing them out is a thing, just that someone gave him some. The other thing he is holding is a traditional Vietnamese hat.
He looks utterly gorgeous in these pics. Torrilla has some press conference pics and he looks utterly adorable and happy in those too. Heart eyes, heart eyes!
Much more so than in the Berlinale photos, where I thought he looked tired and faintly stressed. Playing guitar to pretty Vietnamese air stewardesses is his natural milieu!
>>52 "Thou shalt not post download links." A Holy Commandment from our Couch Potato in Heaven. If we disobey, the 4-ch gods will smite us and ban our IPs for all eternity. And so it is written in the Forum Warning at the Top of the Page. Amen.
Hail Couch.
>>52 Don't worry, I had not forgotten this. Although I am in the happy position of being able to watch it legally. Payback time for getting the first series of Game of Thrones almost a year after it came out!
"Tom Hiddleston tries to sneak into Vietnam under the name Sam Long Fellow. Just in time for the 10:30 press event http://news.zing.vn/Loki-da-co-mat-o-Ha-Noi-de-hop-bao-King-Kong-post628131.html"
https://twitter. com/reeltourshawaii/status/701235157945049088
he arrived just in time for the press conference, so he missed last night party at the American embassy.
>>54 I agree.
My country has shown no signs so far of ever airing it (which surprises me a bit), so I sure am going to catch a livestream.
There's some video of the press conference here: http://m.soha.vn/giai-tri/loki-gay-an-tuong-khi-tu-tin-noi-tieng-viet-20160221143520407.htm
>>57 Presumably the whole sneak in in under another name ruse worked amazingly well until passport control!
#Tom Hiddleston# goes for a walk alongside a friend at the Bebelplatz in Berlin, Germany. 2016.2.19
http://weibo.com/2150852464/DiT0wfUYS?type=comment#_rnd1456052302265
>>62 Will you be watching live by one means or another? x
>>65 I didn't know you can get the live stream other than in the UK. Good news.
It sounds like most of us are watching live or aren't fussed about spoilers (except qaz who hasn't checked in yet). Is everyone happy with usinthis thread to discuss the bum count etc?
>>54 I recognize the conical hat now that a better pic has been posted. And the cherry blossom, too - in the fuzzy black and white pic it just looked like a branch! Which, given his fans, wouldn't be strange.
It can also be watched outside the UK.
I have been watching it live online on bbc one for more than 5 years.
In Romania, it will be broadcasted starting with february 22 on amc but my provider doesn't broadcast AMC :(
So, do we have a consensus regarding spoilers?
It seems as if the impromptu roll call suggests most people will be seeing it tonight or very soon after. So, do we need to employ the Tim Hoddleston thread?
T minus 2.5h. My poor husband has not yet made the connection between "Who's Tom Hiddleston?" and TNM. He loved Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (the tv version with Alec Guiness) and has been eagerly awaiting this new adaptation. Little does he know that he has signed up for one hour of spy drama and one hour of wife drooling over love rival...!!!!
>>31 By the way, the currency of Vietnam is the dong, so confusion may reign notwithstanding we aren't meant to mention certain things!
>>73 Did you by chance see The Big Quiz of the Year? Bad dong!
>>74 No, alas (though I do love Jimmy Carr). I have visited Vietnam and the name of the currency provided far too much puerile amusement to me and my hubby.
>>75 Bad dong was a running joke on last year's show - courtesy of Greg Davies.
Given TH's sometimes - all the time - immature sense of humor, I bet he's loving every minute of exchanging his dollars/euros (Christ, he's been around) for dongs.
I imagine 2012 twitter Tom might even have posted a few dong-related tweets.
>>76 I hope he is running around Hanoi with a million dong note saying "look at my enormous dong".
BTW did you see Torrilla's bromance pic of Olly and the other assistant sitting on the floor at the press conference with their heads on each other's shoulders?
My review - by the numbers:
Number of awesome opening sequences: 1
Number of slightly slow paced episodes: 1
Number of close-ups of TH's eye: 3,267 (really, what was up with that?)
Number of love scenes: 1 (and too short - what you see in the trailer is all there is!)
Number of times we all wanted to be Aure Atika: ALL the times
Number of blood splattered dogs: 1
Number of times TH worshipped the porcelain god: 1
Number of bum shots: 0 (we were promised the bum!)
Number of cliffhangers: one...in front of a snowy cliff!
Actors:
TH: A-
HL: B+
OC: A
>>78 One love scene - but one where we see his O face. Win-win. A+.
One shaving scene (sooo brief - all in the trailer!)
One post coital cuddle scene (heart eyes!)
One cooking breakfast barefoot scene.
And one slightly odd episode. Don't get me wrong, I didn't hate it, but the setup and the characterisation felt a bit clunky to me. Pine in particular did what he did solely it seemed to kick start the plot - I felt little if any sense of what kind of person he was and what might motivate him to do such a thing. And the female characters apart from Burr felt like ciphers. My husband snorted audibly when AA hove into view - [SPOILER] "she might as well have shown up to reception naked" quoth he. I have heard that the second episode is a lot better once the set up has been disposed of.
If anyone cares here is EO hiking in LA with a friend. Caption on my phone says "3 days ago" - Friday? https://www.instagram.com/p/BB88q8KgiTc/
Hello! I returned from deepest Cornwall back to London late last night so missed the TNM airing live, but caught up on it this morning. I really enjoyed it.
Will watch again this evening with my husband as he hadn't see it but I couldn't wait until tonight. Happy to chat on this thread but will try not to be too spoilery.
>>84 Oh crap, that was me again. Sorry. It's so frustrating that it does that!
That's the episode I want to see. How does he get so dirty to need to take a shower?
>>82 PS re spoilers. I think the straw poll suggested that most people were watching it live by one means or another - defiance to AMC and its crapulous schedules! Anyway the consensus is it's ok to chat here and that it won't cause upset.
On a totally unrelated and slightly heartless note, Torrilla has a video of TH speaking Vietnamese at the press conference. It is so bad that the tv station has put subtitles on it translating his Vietnamese into Vietnamese!
>>79 Did we? I completely missed it - must've blinked (yes, it's that quick!).
>>80 It was clunky, you're not wrong. Exposition in books needs to be turned into dialogue/action in movies/tv shows, and I don't think they did enough of that with the Pine/Sophie relationship, which is far more fleshed out (pun intended!) in the book.
>>89 Here it is, Dottie! http://lokihiddleston.tumblr.com/post/139749532787/a-real-snake
>>81 Girl, why aren't you wearing an 'Australia' or 'Vietnam' shirt? Come on, give us fans a little Arthy! Arthy us!
>>91 For that reason, although I know what you mean about it being too slow, it also in some ways felt strangely rushed. One of the brilliant things about the 1970s/80s adaptations was that they were unafraid of doing "nothing" from a plot perspective and using vignettes to build character. They drew them all so brilliantly that by episode 2 you feel like you have known them for ages. Also Ian Richardson as Bill Haydon. That man invented the meaning of the words heart eyes. He was utterly gorgeous.
>>93 I am beginning to think she hasn't been there and got the t shirt. Her appearances on that other girl's Twitter make a cheeky island paradise birthday/ late Valentine holiday hard to reconcile with what we know of his movements. Not impossible, but hard.
>>92 Ohhhh, to use a space shuttle metaphor, I took that moment to be 'entry' not 'landing.'
>>96 I have no idea - but research (!) indicates that the open mouthed, no tongue kiss may be a TH thing not a character thing (it's appeared in several places now).
>>95 No, I don't think she has either, but the only way she can un-beige herself in my eyes is to follow the teachings of the one, the only...Arthy.
This is my favourite part of that scene: http://whovianfloozy.tumblr.com/post/139755535423/i-think-well-all-have-smutty-sweet-dreams