Tom Hiddleston 11 (1000)

1 Name: Anon : 2016-07-13 12:24 ID:zRGlmuDi

Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston

701 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-22 15:18 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>699 They're in it for the long haul it seems. Not just Emmy's but all the way into 2017 with Skull Island and Thor 3. We should ready ourselves for an engagement and the whole shebang.

I really don't think she believes in a thing such as overexposure. There's going to be a lot of pap strolls now. Back to our regularly scheduled programming!

702 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-22 16:11 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>694 Ugh. voms everyhwere The cling continues.

703 Name: Anon : 2016-07-22 16:22 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>702 I just read on tumblr that her jet is on the move. So the chances are, she too will be in San Diego.

>>696 - I had told myself I would go nuclear if there were no exit or entry photos and they just magically appeared at SDCC. Unfortunately a fakely fuzzy pap photo at the airport released the day after it was taken is not quiiiite enough to make the Hiddleswift stans accept that this is all staged (for reasons that escape me).

704 Name: Savvy : 2016-07-22 16:26 ID:7OgODXPn

She must be paying him a lot of money. Or he's a gold digger and will marry her for her money. I'm sure he's enjoying the high life with the private jets, the bodyguards and vip treatment everywhere they go.

705 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-22 16:43 ID:BnzEW/6z

Boooooooring. I hope there are more pics of them enjoying a picnic in a 'secluded spot' to which all the paps have access. Or some more awkward closed mouth kissing shots.

Come on, how are we ever meant to forget that she's a manipulative liar? And remember that this is the greatest love story of our generation?

706 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-22 17:06 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>704 I would think that is the thing that would kill a genuine relationship. People have been hooting about them joining the mile high club and making out on her private jet and enjoying long romantic meals together. WHAT? Those three bodyguards are in that plane with them, and it's not like Air Force One, there isn't a separate bedroom for sleeping. Those guards are at tables next to them at dinner. Just everywhere. Imagine every conversation you have being listened in on, imagine kissing your gf in front of three burly men with earpieces...that's a scene from a porn movie, not a scene from a joyful and deep romance.

I remember that E said the meal in Oz at the Italian restaurant was long and romantic. And I remember asking at the time, what the hell do they talk about. Then someone from the local paper noted that there were three bodyguards with them AND their meal lasted under an hour.

Pass that fucking tinfoil, anonsy.

707 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-22 17:09 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>703 Man, or man!! Are they seriously going to walk the CC floor holding hands? Is this really going to happen? Or is she just going to get papped at the parties and after events. I think there will be events afterwards that she may want to get in on.

'Look, everyone (but especially the paps I hired), I'm not worried about this scandal, I'm dancing at a 'nerd' convention with my boyfriend!'

708 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-22 17:11 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>707 Man, OH, man.

709 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-22 17:21 ID:tmvu+J8S

710 Name: Anon : 2016-07-22 17:24 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>707 I am praying to Mary, Baby Jesus and the Blessed JArthy that they won't go to CC together.

She could be coming back to the States to work on her latest saccharine puff adder of an album. And she could have summoned her plane to take her back to Nashville.

711 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-22 17:26 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>710 I'll pray with you. I'm not even joking.

712 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-22 17:42 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>711 Joins prayer circle

713 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-22 17:44 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>707 She likes to play the underdog and what's a bigger celebration of underdogs than Comic Con?

I want to see her at the industry parties and posing with the cast of Skull Island. Specifically Jordan. Partying with Tom and Jordan and Jason Mitchell, and posing for selfies and photo ops. That'll be glorious. Not only does she have any integrity, she has a way of making people forget their own.

714 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-22 17:51 ID:Heaven

"The pair emerged in California after flying in from Australia via Hawaii via private jet"

The same words used by the source you guys posted, this source was very busy.

Anyway, I told you guys

715 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-22 17:57 ID:Heaven

(the reply button has a life of its own)

she will be at SDCC. I'm afraid we have to stop parsing TH behaviour the way we did before, because he is not that person. He went and is going along with all of this because he is ok with it. He is ok with someone like TS.

(captcha says: bar, I do need a drink)

716 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-22 18:01 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>715 I'm way ahead of you on the drink front. I agree too that looking at current TH through old TH glasses just isn't going to cut it. He is a different person now.

717 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 18:06 ID:XVu0oPjZ

I was at Starbucks drowning my sorrow in an iced macchiato (delish!) and tried to post that I'd join the prayer circle but I typoed the captcha and then it was my turn in the drive-thru.

It appears you all are fast and effective. I check this tinfoil hat tumblr taytaysbeard every day for anything interesting, and they believe TS has already left LA for NYC, so if true they are officially apart for the first time in like 3 weeks. The LA pics from DM were taken yesterday and released this morning.

718 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 18:07 ID:XVu0oPjZ

719 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-22 18:40 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>716 He probably was always this person but was selling a very different persona pre-TS: earnest, honest, not interested by the trappings of fame or Hollywood, rich in integrity and intellect. And he may actually possess or still possess those qualities but they have been superseded by less likeable qualities. (Sigh)

720 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-22 18:45 ID:Heaven

>>719 Coded racism I'm afraid is not something that goes along well with integrity, nor does admitting to be very happy with a lying, manipulative mean person. He was always this person, he just developed the rest to hide it.

721 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 19:08 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>720 I'm with Couch on this one. I can't wait to see how this weekend plays out whether or not she is still with him in California.

722 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-22 19:33 ID:BnzEW/6z

For Anon and Mr. Anon if he finds the iPad in the sock drawer while looking for...socks, yeah, socks.

723 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-22 19:42 ID:3dNWdQHm

The latest photos of him getting out of her big SUV in his gym kit clutching a Starbucks are sad, when I think about him freely (ish) running the streets here around N London. I think those days are long gone for him.

724 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 19:46 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>722 This is as bad as Bennifer, and I wasn't even looking at social media back then.

My favorite part of dlisted articles are the names the commenters call themselves.

Dear gods they are so bieeeeeege.

725 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-22 19:46 ID:dOXrvpr8

>>723 I just saw those, and I was surprised to see them still in L.A. as TS's jet made an hour-long flight this morning at about 7:30 and I assumed it was going to San Diego. Although I suppose if those photos were taken at the crack of dawn (or yesterday, despite what Just Jared and others are saying) then it's still possible.

My feelings for him are ranging from disgust to annoyance to pity at any given moment. The photos of him with his dad Starbucks are pretty pathetic.

726 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-22 19:49 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>725 Totally the same. Part of me just wants to switch off completely because he's acting like such a twat and the other part of me wants to clip him around the ear and take him down the pub for a good talking to over a pint.

727 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-22 19:53 ID:dOXrvpr8

>>726 I did have a bit of a giggle that they didn't go to the gym together.

"No! You can meet my family, you can come to Oz, but you can NOT come with me to the gym. Please Miss Swift, I promise I won't talk to any girls!"

728 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-22 19:58 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>727 What? They're both at the gym, but separately?

729 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-22 20:05 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>720 You're right. If he really was the person he made us think he was, it'd be very difficult for him to be with someone like Taylor. Yet here we are. To fake at such a level, it shows some serious deceit.

>>725 I go from exasperation to disgust to annoyed. I don't feel any pity for him. The racism just threw away the little pity I felt. That really killed it. Even if these two were to breakup tomm, his credibility is shot in my eyes. I wouldn't believe a word he says. Which sucks because I really believed in his passion for his charity work. Now I'm wondering how much of that genuine and how much of that is because it makes his image look good.

731 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 20:19 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>730 So, no nyc for TS. And she's wearing a smirk as usual. ah well, i'll go back to not trusting info until there are pics.

732 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-22 20:20 ID:dOXrvpr8

>>731 Unless the pics of her are from yesterday and she asked her buddies at Just Jared to say they were from today.

733 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 21:13 ID:XVu0oPjZ

A couple of articles say he's finished his filming - implying completely done - for his role. If so, i see no end in sight to the pap strolls. Does anyone know? Someone somewhere posted a supposed public calendar" for him that showed filming through the end of October. Do we know what the truth is?

734 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-22 21:16 ID:dOXrvpr8

>>733 I saw articles that said he was going back after Comic Con too. My guess is that nobody knows and people are just making assumptions. The articles I've seen that thought he was done filming didn't mention Comic Con at all, so they may have just drawn the conclusion that if he was in the U.S. that meant he was done, not realizing he had a commitment this weekend.

I'd be surprised if he was done after only two weeks, especially considering Cate Blanchett just got to Oz very recently.

735 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 21:55 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>734 Exactly - I forgot that at the end of the last movie, he was masquerading as Odin, so some of Loki's lines will be acted by Sir Anthony. But Tom (as actual Loki) will have to confront Cate's character and others later in the movie.

736 Name: Anon : 2016-07-22 22:01 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>734 Le sigh. I am guessing she will be at CC and then back to Oz with him.

I find it hard to imagine 2 weeks of filming is his lot. That is barely a cameo. I do not think that Marvel would allow such a short performance. After all, Thor 2 was not a huge success barring his performance.

737 Name: Anon : 2016-07-22 22:22 ID:zRGlmuDi

And yes, I guess he is as shallow as a puddle IRL. Insofar as we get to see RL at all, which has been cunningly packaged to us all as RL, but turns out to have been a fake.

The main part of my - what? disappointment? disillusionment? - is not that he owes us anything, or that he has to be a clever, principled, earnest, honest person. I like plenty of celebs who are nothing of the kind (ahem, Chis Evans, who is hot but strikes me as shallow), or about whom I really know very little one way or the other (Kenneth Branagh - very good at giving nothing away in interviews). It's that TH worked so hard to sell us a particular person, when the people he chooses to associate with, and the actions of he last fee months, suggests he is nothing of the kind. I feel like I have bought a pig in a poke.

Of, as the old line always goes, it's the lying I find so hurtful!

738 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-22 23:40 ID:XVu0oPjZ

The thing that's been crawling up from the back of my mind are all the little rumors that have bubbled up over the past few years about him from people who dealt with him one-on-one pointing to shallowness that were dismissed because he has plenty of public, well-known supporters - all of whom would have been the recipient of his happy puppy face because they were involved in The Werk. Not talking about the big stories from thebyke but random things that showed up on Datalounge, ONTD, that came from one-off encounters. It's likely they could all be embellished for their intended audiences, but the seeds of those were planted by something either said or done in front of people he was around. I blew them off as 'no one's perfect' because they were not on the racist apologist / straight up liar level of his current 'gf' so I don't have bookmarks. But none of them seemed to point towards him being so shallow as to become a problematic fav. I feel like this is the last weekend I'm going to pay attention to him, and if there's no break from her after, I'm breaking up with my internet bf.

739 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 00:22 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>738 What kind of rumors about shallowness? Share share! You can paraphrase.

740 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 00:45 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>730 So if I'm reading this correctly, they're saying they both went to the same gym at the same time but separately? It says she went Fri morning and then he went that morning too lol what? Did the interns mess up on the article? Or did they go to different gyms?

741 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 01:35 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>740 Different gyms but probably because they were doing different types of workouts. But that doesn't mean they didn't want to get the hell away from each other!! I'm sure they could have worked out in her home gym (holding hands while on the elliptical machines) but they both probably needed some 'me' time. Also, TH was DYING for a latte!! Even TS doesn't have a Starbucks at her home.

742 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 02:08 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>741 Oh I see now. Thanks! Yeah I'm sure it's been eons since he had a coffee because she's been plying him with tea. You know because he's English and such a big tea drinker.

Now that they're away from the Marvel set and its strict rules, should we expect our regularly scheduled twice a day set of non staged perfectly natural pics? I sense a romantic and intimate dinner date coming up. With all 8 of the bodyguards.

743 Name: Anonon : 2016-07-23 02:21 ID:cK9Y/avg

>>742 Too subtle. Sex on the front lawn.

He tweeted:
'A few cool things....'

The responses are not positive which makes me wonder- TH and team knew how many haters were out there and threatening to cause a scene this weekend. Anyone with common sense would have Netflixed and chilled without any fanfare in an isolation chamber. Is this a deliberate ploy to rile up the haters and pull the Swiftie sympathy card. Pity party for two.

744 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 02:47 ID:n8Ob+5ev

This is interesting. Got the deets from a tumblr
Is he gonna make his own now since no one's offering him any lead man roles?

>>743 He's not getting the Swifties sympathy unless it is directly related to something about their Queen's welfare. They could care less about his own career and work. Look at how that one crazy Swifty yelled at Jordan that Tom will slap him for unnecessarily talking about Taylor, HIS GF, and to stay in his lane. Never mind that Jordan is Tom's colleague and just directed him in his upcoming movie.

745 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 02:58 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>744 He has several, one of which he shares with HBC which we talked about in the past. We decided that they are probably ploys to avoid handing too much money over to HM Revenue as he's never once produced anything with them.

Is everyone ready for CC? Is Tom? Is Tay?

746 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-23 03:08 ID:XVu0oPjZ

She IG'd several hours ago a happy birthday message to SG. There are some hate messages but no snake or poop icons. At the bottom of this article they felt the need to point out that she and Tom went to separate gyms today:

There are pics of him at his agent's office today:

And here's In Touch Weekly's cover:

747 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 03:11 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>745 Oh okay. So nothing new then. Girl, I think Tom must be losing it thinking about SDCC. I'm both dreading and looking forward to the Nerd HQ one grimace

>>743 I just saw his tweets. He thanked for the 3M follows but wow those dad and dump the rat and dump taywhore tweets...ouch.

748 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 03:17 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>746 Is she going to frame that LIAR one and mount it on her wall next to the pic of Kanye interrupting her, and then talk about it in an interview of how she keeps reminders of the low moments to make her stronger?

749 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 03:28 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>747 That last tweet was such a shameless plea for kindness: 'I know what I'm doing is not going down well but PLEASE be nice to me tomorrow. PLEASE!!!'

I think he is genuinely afraid for tomorrow. He's probably grinding his teeth as he gets ready to go out for their first LA pap stroll.

I wonder if the NerdHQ thing was a last minute thing with the thinking that -because the last one went so well - he'll turn on the charm and win people over in front of a very sympathetic audience.

750 Name: Anonon : 2016-07-23 03:42 ID:cK9Y/avg

>>749 The whole of Saturday will be a shameless plea for kindness. He is going to pull out all the stops to win back his disgusted fans- dancing, singing, sexy maths, foreign languages..
He is an idiot, so he may be completely calm.
>>744 It's a bit hard to ignore the timing of this new production company.

751 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 03:44 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>749 Yeah I think so too. You think he's been given a full assessment of the public and media's reaction to him and Taylor and Taylor's crash and burn? Or he's going by the ugly tweets he got?

752 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-23 03:53 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>751 Hopefully not everyone who works for him is a sad sycophant. They'd BETTER be reaching into his thick skull and showing him how this has affected him.

753 Name: Anonon : 2016-07-23 03:56 ID:cK9Y/avg

>>751 There's no way his team hasn't alerted him to the mess his fandom is in regardless of whether he's seen tweets. Not to mention mainstream press going for his jugular. Signing up for NerdHQ is desperate- he wouldn't have needed or chosen to do this pre- Swiftmas.
I still find it odd and contradictory that TayTo have made such a push leading up to CC. The haters are really hating now.

Just noticed we're losing another favorite blogger- wthanon4u.
I still can't believe this board has remained Swiftie free.
It's a miracle and I will foil cave prayer circle for it to remain so for as long as I can stand talking about TH.
My fuse is getting short, however.
I'm on the verge of voluntarily walking the plank of his ship.

754 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-23 04:04 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>753 I posted earlier that I feel like this weekend, I'm walking down the road to a goodbye after SDCC and remain so unless he changes his association with the Drama Queen of 2016. My lust for his body and his decent acting jobs will remain.

755 Name: NewAnon : 2016-07-23 04:08 ID:n8Ob+5ev

>>752 Hope so. He did look pretty angry in those agent office pics but he was arriving there so it might just be Fri LA traffic angst.

>>753 I think the fans at SDCC will be kind to him. They're probably the ones who quietly support him no matter what (as they write fanfic about him falling madly in love with them)
I can't figure out whose call it was to keep pushing TayTo til SDCC. Since his face is covered in the pap shots and we see her front and center with her sponsored LV bag and grinning, I'd say she's calling all the shots on when where and what. And he's fine with it because it's what he signed up for and he keeps just once, one of these pap strolls will finally do the trick and the media and public will gush and adore.

756 Name: Anonon : 2016-07-23 04:09 ID:cK9Y/avg

>>754 It's probably because we've all realised his talk is cheap
Might be for the best if we all stop listening to him but I will definitely be here to sneer and chortle over every insincere word this weekend while I blame him for my hangover

757 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 06:54 ID:Heaven

>>750 last time I checked he was in 2 companies in the UK, on for his house, one a production company in London. This one created in July is interesting. Does he really need another production company for taxes purposes? Wouldn't one be enough?

758 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-23 06:58 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>757 He needs somewhere to stash the millions TS is paying him to be her "boyfriend."

759 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 07:14 ID:Heaven

>>758 And he keeps them in England?! Really all that money spent for his education was for nothing hahaha

Yes, he still has the other prduction company

760 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 07:16 ID:Heaven

He surely is nervous about NerdHQ, especially because 3 years ago the tickets for his conversation went sold out in a matter of second!

Now, 2 days after they went on sale both events aren't even sold out

761 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-23 07:22 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>760 Both Hiddleston events are showing sold out for me. I read the tickets went quickly this year too - people on Twitter were complaining that they were refreshing the page waiting for them to go on sale and still weren't able to get any.

762 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 07:24 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>745 A few lawyerly thoughts on the new company.

The one he shares with HBC has to do with his home. Basically you can have a building, or in his case a compound, where the owners each have a long lease of their apartment, but also have a share in the company which owns the freehold. The company will make decisions about work to common areas such as the roof. It is not identical to a co-op in terms of legal structure but that is the nearest equivalent and it serves the same basic purpose.

The one we linked to previously is a tax efficiency company. It had over £300k of assets which says to me Marvel etc pays that company for his services and the company then pays him a dividend. As a company can decide when to pay a dividend he can smooth his income across several tax years which is more efficient.

All his tax needs would be dealt with by that company, so my guess is that the new company is an actual production company. This is supported by the identity of the other director and shareholder, which is a company that is in turn owned by two other guys, one of whom is a director of what looks like a TV production company. There is also no tax benefit (and an active disadvantage!) to distributing your income through a company that has another shareholder, because if you pay yourself a dividend the other guy has to get one too! So my guess is that he is looking outside acting with this new company.

763 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 07:27 ID:Heaven

>>761 Oh yes, it is sold out on the ticket website. I was going by the nerdmachine schedule page where it doesn't show the sold out.

764 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 07:28 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>759 Thanks Couch - I just reminded myself by looking. This company has one shareholder (TH) and one director (TH) and £380k of assets. That is the classic tax efficiency structure. You don't want anyone else to share or control the loot!

765 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 07:30 ID:Heaven

>>762 thank you, I was counting on you for the legal aspect. I read at CB it could have to do with the South Sudan documentary he mentioned what feels like ages ago since the people involved with Appeal films have worked with UNICEF before.

766 Name: Anonon : 2016-07-23 07:45 ID:cK9Y/avg

>>762 Thanks Anon, he did seem to love producing TNM, I imagine that's where he's headed with this.
With the suspect timing are we all tinfoiling that the company his 'payment' for tanking his career for TS? It would explain all his compliancy in the pap walks, public pda and dragging his family through the press. Sort of, but not really.
Is he with her for love or money?

767 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 07:48 ID:Heaven

>>766 love for money? The idea of him loving such a despicable creature is yuck.

768 Name: Anonon : 2016-07-23 07:52 ID:cK9Y/avg

>>767 I would very much like to be excluded from that narrative

769 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 07:53 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>766 The new company has assets of £ it's not likely to be a "reward". I also think it is very unlikely she would pay him some vast sum and then not retain control, either as a director or shareholder.

The other consideration is that doing this stuff takes time. You have to decide to set the company up, agree with the other director that they will be involved, attend a solicitor, get the papers sorted, attend again for signing. It can be done very quickly, don't get me wrong, but it usually isn't if there is no need. What I am saying is that its emergence on 1 July is probably coincidental and the result of a much longer planning period.

770 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 08:00 ID:zRGlmuDi

Appeal Films was incorporated in January 14. However there was a brief flurry of activity from it about 9 weeks ago. It set up an Instagram and posted 1 pic of I guess the 2 guys who are its directors:

If you want a date as to when AF agreed to go into a joint venture with TH via Heath Films, my educated guess is 9 weeks ago.

771 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 08:03 ID:Heaven

>>770 did you AF's twitter user pic? A photo of TH in South Sudan.

772 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-23 08:04 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>770 Notice the UNICEF building featured in the backdrop of the Instagram picture.

773 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 08:13 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>771 >>772 - I didn't see either of those things - good spot! I think that the IG pic was taken long before it was posted because they are wearing heavy winter coats. Looks like they worked with TH on the UNICEF movie and they have now decided to work with him for other projects?

774 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 08:15 ID:zRGlmuDi

I was right - photo probably taken on 31.12.15 - https://twitter.


775 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 08:44 ID:zRGlmuDi

Someone pointed out that TS broke her iPhone screen. Throwing it at the wall when the Kimye story came out?!

776 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-23 08:53 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>775 Throwing it at TH after he messed up his interview quote?

777 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 09:11 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>776 Lol

778 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-23 09:16 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>776 I mean, I'm kidding. I bloody hope that's not the cause.

779 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 09:46 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>778 I hope not too.

I feel strangely weary of all this.

I am weary of watching someone I followed for being non-Hollywood, intellectual and interesting, earnest and unvarnished, morph in front of my eyes into someone who is not only thoroughly calculating and Hollywood, but who seems to be aiming for the Kardashian, In Touch Weekly end of the market.

I am also weary of wondering whether I am one of the "bad fans" or "haters" because I dare to express scepticism about how this relationship (which I believe to be a genuine one) has been packaged and presented to the press. Or because, on the basis of quite a lot of information, I have concluded that Taylor Swift is repellant on both a personal and professional level.

780 Name: N8Anon : 2016-07-23 10:24 ID:3dNWdQHm

>>779^^^^^^ Yes to all of this.

781 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-23 10:38 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>779 I tend towards the thought that, at least by this point, there is no "real" relationship going on. However, I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion of Taylor Swift, and this is what brings me to my problem with Tom: regardless of the relationship's realness, somewhere in Tom's mind he thought publicly linking himself up with her was a good idea. Spoiler alert: it wasn't. It was the most horrible idea ever. Bad Tom.

Worst case scenario, he has legitimate feelings for terrible person. I've believed she was a terrible person since long before she and Tom ever crossed paths, and the more that comes to light about her the more there is to dislike. Many people have already put together substantial, indisputable evidence of her being abhorrent on all levels. So, Tom truly liking her in any way and acting on his feelings is an indication that he too must be an awful person.

In what I suppose would be the best case scenario, Tom is a fool and believed that engaging in a showmance with Taylor Swift was a smart career move. Perhaps he took some poor advice from someone he clearly shouldn't be trusting. Perhaps he was deceived by her persona and was simply enchanted by the promise of greater fame and fortune. Either way, he didn't do his research properly before getting involved with her, which shows a tremendous lack of judgment.

In any case, I'm left with a highly negative opinion of him.

782 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 10:53 ID:Heaven

>>779 that's why, against all odds, I wished for this to be some sort of documentary video.

Anyone who says you are a bad fan or hater is full of shit. After all, if you were to apply the same info you on two people who are not famous, wouldn't your inference be the same?

783 Name: M : 2016-07-23 10:55 ID:mOu5YVXG

I prefer a Tom inlove with a brainless blonde pole than a Tom capable of anything for a little publicity.

784 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 10:55 ID:Heaven

>>781 Yes anonsy, that's pretty much my thinking too. He chose all of this.

I only add that even if he didn't do his research properly at first, by now he must have, if not because he involved his family, the fact that he still doesn't want to walk away says a lot. And people should stop saying that he would look bad if he did, nobody has ever looked bad for walking away from bad people.

785 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-23 11:29 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>784 I agree, everyone knows what she is now, with the exception of delusional Swift worshipers. Your last point brings me back to my two scenarios - either he doesn't want to walk away (he's an awful person), or he contractually can't walk away (he's a fool).

Maybe he'll surprise us all and bail soon. There's a part of me that still wants him to get some sense knocked into his head and straighten all this out, and I don't think it's impossible. My personal feelings about him will never be the same, though.

786 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 11:31 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>783 I kind of feel he is both. He is in love AND he is willing to pimp that out for publicity.

>>782 Thank you. It's not something someone has said, it's self doubt. :(

787 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 11:53 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>785 TBH I didn't know anything really about her till this, just that she was a pop star and incredibly successful. I had no idea about the bad stuff because although it is there until recently it was not getting much traction in the headlines.

I can imagine him not doing any "research" on the internet before he met her. He is a celebrity and he has said he thinks it is weird meeting people and they already know everything about you. He might also think, as a celebrity who sees himself represented in a certain way, that you can't believe anything you read. So why not just take her as he finds her when hey meet, with no preconceived ideas?

Then they get together and at some point the Kimye stuff comes up. Maybe before RI - or maybe she kept that little helpful coincidence quiet when she suggested they "get it out there". Anyway, she tells him her version, and he probably believes it. He's in love/lust and she probably tells him something close enough to to the truth to make it vaguely convicting. He is only going to realise it is a lie if he goes back and compares the original statement with the snapchat, and he probably didn't do that. I bet he has also deliberately not read any think pieces saying she is a liar, manipulative, playing to racial stereotypes etc. I am sure someone has told him that it hasn't played well, but there is a big difference between reading it all yourself, and being told about it, probably by a somewhat sycophantic person who also wants to move forward and focus on the positive. Also Luke is in the UK so TH may be getting any PR advice from her people and they are hardly going to tell him how bad it is.

So I can well see that he remains insulated from it to a considerable degree. He is I am sure telling himself what people always say when all their friends hate a new partner: "I go by what I see of my partner. I judge on how they are with me. I don't listen to idle gossip." My feeling is it will take a while for him to learn for himself what she is like. He may never fully do so. I reckon that what will kill it off in the end will be one of three things: constant bodyguards, publicity, lack of privacy stuff; or having to hang around with a bunch of thick 25 year old models, talk endlessly about cats etc; or scheduling - when she is on tour and he is filming. I don't think he will have a moment when he realises she is a horrible person, because who wants to think they were fooled into dating someone horrible?

788 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 13:09 ID:BnzEW/6z

I can't decide if it's real or not. I was so certain that it was, and then it got weird. Really weird. When they realized some of the general public and a good number of journalists were questioning it, they just seemed so determined to make it look 'real' and give it legitimacy in the public eye. People falling in love, people in a real relationship, even those in the public eye and using said relationship for publicity, shouldn't have to 'do couple stuff' to legitimize their relationship - it should be obvious. They could have just shown up together and looked like people in a relationship do: together, happy, comfortable. Instead everything was rom-com OTT and seemingly done before planted paps: we hold hands, we kiss in the sunshine, I meet your family, we hold hands some more, we BBQ on a national holiday.

And the timing now is clearly suspect. The RI pics to distract from Kim's GQ article. The trip to Oz to get away from the US in prep for 'THE Receipts.'

I just don't know. And I don't care at this point because real or not, it doesn't speak highly of him. Perhaps he doesn't know the extent of her lying and manipulative ways, perhaps he is really smitten. But then he's in love with someone - and is someone himself - who wanted to publicize their 'first date,' wanted to drag his family into the public gaze, wanted to make public all the lovely first moments in a relationship that should be private. Their first romantic foreign getaway was 2-3 days long. It was shared with professional paps (her agency of choice) and 3 body guards. Real or not, that just makes them sound like soulless famewhores. So he's either in love with a famewhore (real) or is happy to have a business arrangement with a famewhore because he is one himself. Six and one half-dozen of another.

In the modern parlance of parents raising Millennials: I'm not angry, Thomas, I'm just disappointed. (Side note: Husband and I have decided to never say this to our child. We had parents that got angry, so we've decided to be 'get angry parents' as well. We think this approach will either create a 'normal' child like ourselves, or a serial killer. We're willing to go with this plan because we'd rather raise a serial killer than a Millennial.)

Thought I'd submit my essay as well. However, all said, I like M's very concise take on it >>783.

789 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 14:27 ID:m6/7hUNE

Seems Miss Crazy Intelligent and others have made an appearance in Dlisted's latest Tayto article. No surprise that they were introduced with this comment: 'Oh my Lord, the delusion...'

790 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 15:05 ID:Heaven

>>788 Yes, no matter how you spin it the result isn't very good. (hahah, Anon. I think you and your husband reached a sound decision)

791 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 15:11 ID:Heaven

>>789 You got to admire the courage...Nah I give them too much credit, it's just blind stupidity.

Or, maybe they are feeling competitive, the Hiddlestoners, more stoned than ever, out en masse to prove that they are more loyal and supportive than the Swifties and to achieve that they are blatantly ignoring all facts (case in point the latest CB's threads where the usual group of apologist uses logic fallacies and then compliment themselves on their sound logic while shading the other posters for not being so clever; they deserve TS as gf for TH)

792 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 15:34 ID:Heaven

Maybe you guys already knew this, I didn't.

The streaming of Hall H panels isn't live. They put up things later but streamed through the Comic-Con HQ app.

I also read that the registration to this app is free, but they will still ask you your credit card to later be charged according to your subscription.

793 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 16:07 ID:Heaven

this is the link to nerdhq youtube page

794 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 16:57 ID:zRGlmuDi

Please like me. Please don't boo me in Hall H: https://twitter


795 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 17:13 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>794 Is he tweeting again?!

This one isn't as awschucks..3 ramblings as the last one but perhaps it signals a plan. Do we think he'll really pump out the tweets - personal (but obvs not about TS) and lighthearted - during CC?

796 Name: Anon. : 2016-07-23 17:15 ID:BnzEW/6z

>>795 This is his MO, isn't it. My image has been tarnished...time for SOCIAL MEDIA!!!!!! All the selfies, all the tweets, all the Facebook posts.

797 Name: anonsy : 2016-07-23 17:22 ID:tmvu+J8S

>>796 I'm like LOL NICE TRY, ASSHOLE!

798 Name: Anon : 2016-07-23 17:29 ID:zRGlmuDi

>>796 Yep.

>>797 Yep.

>>788 Yep. Don't disagree with any of this. All I was trying to add in my ramblings was that he may be unaware of the numerous "TS is a bad person" anecdotes. Of course what he is aware of is how he has pumped out his family, done multiple pap strolls etc.

799 Name: Couch Potato : 2016-07-23 17:37 ID:Heaven

800 Name: Whatsinaname : 2016-07-23 17:37 ID:XVu0oPjZ

>>791 Sometimes it seems like Crazy Intelligent has a vested interested in believing the love story.

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