Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
>>299 Ah, I didn't know that timing for reserving a puppy. Still, he probably knew even then that he wouldn't be doing much promo for T:R or filming in Atlanta in this round. So this probably was the best time for him to take the puppy plunge. And a good thing too, because those pix are currently above the many, many Reputation articles in his search results.
I wonder if his nicer-than-normal uniform in those pix is because those were the newer versions of his standards that were bought for Hamlet? The hoodie looks almost new.
Awww, puppy's first pap stroll. :(
>>288 It says he's not sensible. As to cynicism, let us remember that this is a man who pap strolled with his mother, sister and young niece in order to legitimize a blatantly faux relationship. Would he get a dog to have something cute to deflect from Tayto-become-music? I do not doubt that he would. He pretended to be in a relationship with someone for exposure. What's a dog compared to that? How's that for cynical!
I don't think it's a rent-a-dog but I suspect it will be off to his mother's the moment a job comes through.
>>299 Same in the US. You will often put down a payment when the mother is pregnant and then follow through with the rest of the fee if the gender/health of the pup meets expectations. This is the timeline I was thinking of when I wrote about the circumstances in which he was considering pet ownership.
Is he nesting or co-parenting the pup with someone? I don't know. He's always seemed a playboy/serial dater to me, two/three on the go, as casual as causal could be. That doesn't change overnight. So while I don't doubt he's 'seeing someone' I don't think she's become a new puppy mommy.
Besides it's only been nine months since the GQ article. He still mending a broken heart.
Gossip Cop response from Team Tom below.
>>304 Yep. Tom is too naive to run in the media games of Hollywood. Unlke Calvin Harris who wasn't afraid to clap back by not only defending his song cowriting and producing skills on his Rihanna song with TS, but tweeted that TS controls all of the media and that TS fans who want to believe a fictional sanitized version of TS exist in real life, just need to grow up, and then he claimed his phone had been stolen! Ha! Ballsy.
Team Tom's response to the TS album on gossip cop. Stating that no one close to him comments to the press about any of his feelings, or knows his opinions on the album. That he respects art in general, doesn't assume that any of the songs on the album are about him at all, and art is open to interpretation. And that their "brief relationship" ended over a year ago. Mature. Sad that the minions crave petty drama over grown up statements. Can't wait to talk about what happens in Tom's career, next!
https://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-reaction-taylor-swift-new-album-lyrics/
Oddly, I am currently eating in the Santa Monica location of Hillstone restaurant, where Tom and TS had their last interaction in their fauxmance. FYI, lots of families enjoying the holiday eating burgers and fries, and no paparazzi in sight : )
Why does Lainey hate TH so much?
>>307 B/c Lainey is in the pockets of Team TS. And she gives Lainey, People, US magazine, and Rolling stone scoops. And they get a lot of TS fans to click to their online sights b/c of her. TS is just like most other young artists today. They worked hard, wrote a few good songs by themselves as youngsters, and now they have teams of songwriters and gossip rags, and a even a few newspapers editors who inflate the ratings of their new albums, in their pockets to help ensure their success. So much money is used to promote their careers that they are too big to fail. That line about Tom being too thirsty for PR was always her strategy to hurt Tom. Sad that he wasn't wise enough to stay the heck away from PR relationships in Hollywood, b/c you have to be reality tv star, or young pop star greedy/catty/petty and capable of lying well, to survive them intact. The puppy pap walk has been used by Affleck and Liv Schreiber in their post relationship PR battles, so it was a bit of a tired move from his team. Tom's absence from Marvel Thor 3 promotion was part of Marvel's plan to spend less money flying and housing actors first class around the world, and instead rely on a very controlled social media campaign and their established fan base to increase their profits. If Marvel had wanted Tom for more PR, he couldn't have gotten out of it, if he was contractually obligated to be there.
From a gossip column in today's Times:
"Tom Hiddleston’s diary is enough to make the most hardened workaholic feel like a slacker. The actor has just played Hamlet on stage, and, even though his latest film, Thor: Ragnarok, is still in cinemas, he is already working on the fourth Avengers flick. So it’s little wonder that he wants to escape the rat race. My mole tells me Hiddleston, 36, is ditching London for the country, and has his eye on pads in East Sussex. He’d feel right at home — his Thor co-star Cate Blanchett has a 13-acre pile in Crowborough."
Here's the link: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-homes-for-tom-hiddleston-and-taylor-swift-dzgvmf8bv
Personally I think Suffolk is more likely, as E Sussex is a long way from both parents (Suffolk and Oxford respectively). Maybe it's an error/mishearing, or maybe deliberate misinformation.
If you want to live near coffee shops and cinemas, East Sussex basically means Brighton, so any home there would also still be very public, and maybe even a bit more so as it is a bit of a small town. He'd have privacy if he goes for a true country pad - but that seems unlikely for a coffee-addicted single man, even with a dog.
>>310 Probably could be buying a country home instead of uprooting from London altogether. I don't think his acting ambitions have changed so I don't see him leaving London. A country home is more space for his growing puppy and also provides a quiet place for him from his constantly stalking fans that hang around his neighborhood.
I know his nanny fans are saying this move signals him settling down and we'll hear engagement news soon but I wonder if he's simply just buying a country home to enjoy some time away at. The purchase makes sense with the money his two movies made this year. Usually actors start expanding their real estate when they come into a steady stream of cash from their blockbuster franchises. Some they keep for themselves, some are investments and they rent them out etc.
Taffy Akner, authoress of the much debated TH GQ article, expresses her twitter feelings of why people supposedly like the petty music of Taylor Swift. Taffy knows how to self-promote, my gosh!
Taffy Brodesser-AknerVerified account @taffyakner 4h4 hours ago
A friendly reminder that we only recognize Taylor Swift's pettiness and sensitivity because we share it.
A friendly, sweeping and therefore undoubtedly flawed reminder. Thanks, Taff.
>>312, >>313 And in other Taffy/TH news, who should be interviewed on a podcast and say more about Tom and the "mystery brunette" DM story but Ms. TA: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/write-about-now/id1286555942?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
Apparently he called her after the pap pix came out: "He called me up. And he said, “I see what’s going on. I’m so sorry, I would like to apologize to your husband. I meant… I hope you understand, he understands there’s no disrespect, and I am horrified. And I can only imagine what you’re going through.” And I said, “Tom. This has been the best week of my life. Like, we should try to enjoy this more. This is amazing. Please, do not shut it down, I am really enjoying this.” "
Hers may be the longest 15 minutes of fame evah.
Two articles below from The Hollywood Reporter. The first says that AMC, the Ink Factory, and the BBC have greenlit John le Carre's The Little Drummer Girl, and mentions how successful TNM was, worldwide. The Night Manager 2 is mentioned in the second link, and it is still in early development, apparently. Methinks that idea needs not to happen. Tom should think like Elsa in Frozen and Let it Go. The second article talks about why limited series shows are given additional seasons. That's obvious. Avarice and greed.
>>316 Also, as one exec quoted in the 2nd article says, "It’s easier to expand an existing brand than to create one in the first place." In other words, lack of originality or desire to take risks, also known as fear of losing money and face.
Here is the Sir Kenneth Branagh "Happy Sad Confused" podcast with Josh Horowitz on MTV. He talks about casting Thor 1, Tom, and Chris Hemsworth at 23 minutes, and his 4 hour film production of Hamlet w Kate Winslet, Julie Christie, etc. Apparently Sir Ken might star in a version of Macbeth directed by Martin Scorsese. If so, Tom should try to nab a part in that film. Fassbender already mucked it up. I'm determined that someone has to be the first actor to win an OScar for a Shakespearean performance since Olivier for Halmet in 1949.
http://www.mtv.com/news/podcasts/happy-sad-confused/kenneth-branagh/
Taffy B-A returns to the Hiddlecow to milk yet more from her one interview!
I am beginning to think she called the paps herself.
Apparently Hiddleston, Coleman, and co are in negotations for The Night Manager 2. Hmm... I do not like this. There is no more night to manage. Period. Unless they have someone of JJ Abrams levels of imagination and innovation to build a new story, and an award winning writer to spin a tale like his life depended on it, I would be truly concerned.
>>321 It sounded to me like the same stuff that various people from the first series have been saying for a while: "it will only be done if it can be the same quality as the first one...." I suspect this will never come to pass, because by the time they can develop something really good, the director and major cast members will have other commitments. (Unless they do "The Night Manager - 10 Years After," hee hee.)
One of the major cast members might not have any commitments....
Maybe he's decided to stick with the proven over the uncertain. From now on he'll only do Marvel movies, ticket-balloted Shakespeare plays with three week runs and Night Manager sequels...and pap walks with puppies, never fake girlfriends or GQ writers.
Dicks out for Taffy.
>>323 So can we call it now? Is he officially a Has-Been? One-Hit Wonder?
My oh my! Kenneth Branagh might be signing on to direct and star in another Poirot detective film, Death on the Nile! Tom must grab the starring role of Simon Doyle, who may be a victim of a heinous crime, or the murderer, himself. The story is about a gruesome love triangle that develops between a wealthy heiress, her brand new dashingly handsome and previously impoverished husband (hopefully Tom), and his heartbroken ex fiancee. It all takes place on a paddle steamer traveling down the Nile, and someone ends up dead. I think a handsomely made, well cast period ensemble piece, would be a good fit for him. Or, Tom should head to France and grab Isabelle Hupert for a steamy french thriller. A May-December romance film with her would rock!
And we have a cornucopia of puppy-walking photos with Tom and Bobby! They are strolling in the park with Tom's Hamlet costar, noted playwright/actress Lolita Chakrabarti (who played Gertrude), who is married to the phenomenal thespian Adrian Lester. Lester starred in Branagh's 1930's set film jukebox musical production of Shakespeare's "Love's Labour's Lost" featuring Alicia Silverstone (embarrassingly.)
>>326 You beat me to it! I wonder if Ms. C is the one holding Bobby's leash because Tom was waving his hands around too much and confusing the pup? Also, that dog has huge paws!
>>327 And now, apparently Lolita Chakrabarti's nickname is Bobbie! So maybe Tom was talking to Lolita in the coffee shop w his new puppy, and his puppy's name is yet, unknown. What a mystery. Let's protect the privacy of the puppy as it begins to navigate the pernicious eyes the celebrity press.
I think Lolita Chakrabarti is Tom's current Ken B. She was pictured next to him at that theater opening and she is a producer/ playwright. Since he's having trouble landing movies right now, he's most likely aiming at plays. Could be they are working on a project together and pitching it together looking fir investors. Would explain them hanging out. I think it's all professional. Unless she's left her husband and holy scandal THids, being the other dude again? Jk, I highly doubt it.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone Stateside! 🦃
We don't get the day off and the turkey but thank you for giving the UK some extra sales for our Christmas shopping!!
Thank you Anon. I don't know about anyone else, but I ate well.
>>328 So it appears that the pupper is called Bobby/Bobbie (spelling is not confirmed) according to one of a number of twitter users running into TH on the street (once with BC and SH over the weekend) or on the Tube.
from @angelasargeant1: https://twitter
.com/angelasargeant1/status/935613051537063937
Avengers IW trailer w an intense shot of Loki/Tom holding the tesseract. Is it odd that I enjoy the stand alone films much more than the Avenger group efforts?
Okay, The Night Manager 2 officially has a writer, Matthew Orton. His resume seems rather limited on imdb.com Is a sequel really necessary? Not really sure what I'm hoping will happen with this project. Haven't read a word about Ben Wheatley's Hard-Boiled adaptation, in a whole year.
http://deadline.com/2017/11/matthew-orton-the-night-manager-1202216478/
>>333 The production keeps saying it's going to be a slowly developing project so they probably need to figure out the direction they want to take season 2 in. I mean if they're lucky it could turn out to be a successful season 2. If not then ouch. Also, is Tom even attached to s2? It doesn't sound like he's been signed on yet. He said he'd consider it, definitely not a confirmation.
I couldn't even finish the first season tbh. The writing and direction and character building weren't really my thing. I could barely make it to the end of ep2. So it's safe to say I won't be tuning in to a s2. But just because something isn't my taste doesn't mean it's not a good show/ movie.
Does Orton have a twitter? Watch for the telltale follow from TH. That's as good an indication that he's involved as a snap of the actual contract.
Is it necessary? No. But looks like they'll do it. As has been mentioned: the greenback talks.
I would guess that, if asked, he'd do it. He doesn't seem to be drowning in work, and it's really his main claim to fame - besides for Marvel and Tayto. Even if it's crap, he'll do it. Mainly because he can't tell the difference between good and bad, and because his talent will overcome all failings of plot, plan and script, e.g., ISTL, Shit Island, Tayto....
>>332 Not odd at all. The first time I watched Avengers I, I found it rather overwhelming with all the characters. I found Age of Ultron confusing and boring, and I haven't made myself watch Civil War yet. I think IW and A4 have "hot mess" potential.
>>333, >>334 Re Hard Boiled, I vaguely remember seeing something in the last few months where Wheatley joked about having resumed working on the script.
I did make it through TNM's first season, but it was hard going for the last few episodes when it got so ridiculous. In some ways, they might be better off with original material for a second season.
>>335 With KSI, it turns out that what he probably was pitched by Legendary during the CP shoot was not what Warner wanted in the final script - see this from the screenwriter: https://screenrant.com/kong-skull-island-characters-deleted-backstory/. It does explain why he seems miscast or overacting in that role.
It's a pity that TH didn't claim "creative differences" and bail at that point. Instead, he'll be best known as the eye candy/T-shirt model for that film: https://decider.com/2017/11/25/kong-skull-island-on-hbo-indulge-in-the-glorious-objectification-of-tom-hiddleston/
As for giving him leading man cred, KSI just started running on HBO over here, and TV Guide (sort of the equivalent of Radio Times) listed him fourth in its cast list!
Big news - we have confirmation that the pup (HiddlesBob? BobSton?) is his: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgballardandart/permalink/602027433476714/
I do like that he asked this J.G. Ballard scholar to emphasise to her students "that he wasn’t eating his dog"!
So I step away from the board for a week and you all get busy posting!
>>334 I bought the series on iTunes planning to rewatch on a long flight earlier this year, as a lot of the episodes had been watched over dinner, in a slight rush etc. I had enjoyed it but I thought I’d give it a better chance to concentrate on it. Big mistake. It was so lumpen, and TH’s performance felt positively wooden. I didn’t make it to the end of Ep 2. I was surprised how badly it stood up to a second watch.
>>338 KSI I also bought to watch on the same trip. Didn’t make it half way through. I thought it was dreadful. Do you remember the stories about other talent (principally Michael Keaton) bailing, and TH hanging on like a limpet? I guess those rewrites might have had something to do with it.
>>332 I never much liked the Avengers movies. Film-making by numbers. Latest one looks highly derivative of a Lord of the Rings movie. Lots of CGI orc type creatures stormin a castle. Ok.
And I haven’t seen Ragnarok. I am a bad fan!
>>340 Tbh, I was very surprised when Susanne Bier won for best directing. She did a respectable job on TNM but best? I'm not sure...I did try to give TNM another chance but the whole thing felt so stiff and cliche to me. Sorry to all those who loved TNM but I couldn't get into it. Though Tom looked amazingly hot in it. No arguments there. I loved looking at the stills and short TV spots from it lol
>>335 That's what I'm wondering. Unless he's matured a bit, he probably will sign up for it even if it's a shit script. I really hope he doesn't pull an ISTL 2.0 with this.
>>344 You've answered your own question, Sosorry. He starred in two franchises, with tons of other people, and he didn't stand out. In Kong JCR was the stand out according to most critics. In Thor it was Tessa Thompson. So he wasn't responsible for that money and won't benefit directly from that box office success. The TNM splashed in the UK but barely bubbled in the US, again little benefit to him. His GG was tarnished slightly by his speech but more by the fact that every other major award went to Vance and TPvOJ (and rightly so) while TNM swept the GGs in the major acting categories; the win seemed more like an anomaly. And Hamlet...to 25 people.
I don't know where he is career wise but my goodness this is some drought.
I liked TNM. It lagged at times, was wholly improbable both in plot and details - knowing even a little about military hardware makes that shopping list he photocopies pure comedy gold - but it was entertaining. TH himself was too. There were some hammy moments and that chuckle was the stuff of nightmares, but it was a solid performance.
But the show and TH pale in comparison to other series in that season. That's the problem with it for me. There were times when I watched TPvOJ and just knew that I was watching performance/script perfection. Vance and Brown's courtroom scenes about race and Mark Fuhrman were masterful. I never had those same feelings when watching TNM, not even with Coleman's 'sports day' scene - and I'd just written a paper on the use of chemical weapons.
When the creative team talks about not doing a second series unless it is as good as the first, all I can think is, 'Could you not do a second series unless it's better than the first?'
>>340, >>344 Having re-watched KSI recently when it came on HBO (OK, I mostly had it on in the background), I found to be one of those "it's so bad I have to watch it for the unintended humor" flicks. The stilted acting, for example, is thanks to the even more stilted dialogue!
>>344 I agree about what Tom was trying to do in TNM; in the book, LeCarre calls Pine the "close observer." And that is damn hard to pull off onscreen. I think someone on this board said that maybe a Mark Rylance or Alec Guinness could have done it, but Tom isn't there yet.
>>344, >>345, >>346 I'm hoping he's talking to people like Lolita C. for advice about getting into producing. I gather Ben C. has created a fair amount of his own work by optioning a work, producing it, and casting himself. And I hope Tom stays open to doing more TV; over here at least, that's where a lot of the interesting projects are happening.
A side effect of the new puppy is that it may be easier to track when he's in London. A lot of sightings are being posted. Wonder if he's disconcerted the pup is drawing people to him, or that people are paying more attention to the pup than to its owner?
I'm a bit scared to post this but it's too good not to.
I just did a job with an old friend who worked on TR. She couldn't stand Tom. Called him a ponce. Said he constantly bragged about being the next Bond and whinged about the hot sun. Not a bad word was said about anyone else, except some erratic steroid induced mood fluctuations from the lead. I've always agreed with her opinions on people.
She even lurched into imitating his whiny voice and I cringed. I cringed hard.
Hi Anonon! Thanks for sharing. Steroid induced mood fluctuations, ha ha!
Interesting news re our friend. The party line has always been that he is delightful in every way. I wonder whether that was a line or whether the Tayto situation got to him. Also interested though not surprised re Bond - we have always known on this board he wanted it hard. Hard enough it seems not to have let the dream go even though by TR shooting I think there had been stories about Barbara Broccoli saying no way because he had made such a tit of himself.
The old posh English charm often doesn't go down well with Australians. There was a lot of head shaking and screwing up of her face with utmost displeasure. Could be Tayto induced but seemed more of a general disposition. In terms of the party line, let's just say this person hears much more than anyone else on set and most crew are very tight lipped about gossip. I am being very very bad. Hope this doesn't bite me in the arse
>>348 I believe it. He dated Taylor Swift after all. There had to be some common ground there.
>>350 I don't think it's Tayto induced. I think it's part of his normal personality. It really showed during his earlier Thor 1 interviews but he learned to reign it in after that.
>>352 Do you mean those very old interviews where he was joking about having Moljnr in his pants? I don’t recall many from those days (pre fandom..!)
I could believe every word of this “tea” except him bragging about being the next Bond. He wouldn’t brag about it unless the contract has been signed already. He wanted it too badly to risk jinxing it. I could see him downplaying his interest/hopes of playing Bond for fear of losing yet another role after casting, or being bitter after finding out that DC will continue as Bond, but bragging, no.
Your friend should have kept her tea simpler. The man has been several time to Africa and visited his sister in India often enough when she lived there, he would never whine about the hot sun.
This board posters are so Tayto induced now, they can't even spot bullshit anymore, you are as reliable as Toby.
>>353 No, I was talking about the ones from Comic Con 2010. The one on one interviews where he's sitting with a group of reporters. I think he says the pole dancing line in it. You can see glimpses of that guy Anonon's friend was taking about. Though I do think he might have been bragging more about how everyone keeps calling him the new Bond rather than saying he is the new Bond, just because it's a set and ppl know ppl.
>>354 >>355 You sound like a recent lurker more than an old time visitor of the board and probably have no idea about Anonon. No wonder you are quick to disregard everything. Even though what she said isn't really that damning at all, just funny. Maybe look elsewhere for flattering "tea" on Tom. Sorry to burst your bubble about Tom's perfection.
Well, anonon has been posting on here for a long time - about 18 months at least, if not longer. If she has been waiting to build up to posting this one piece of tea then she has been playing a very long game indeed.
We have had the odd visitor offering not especially convincing stories. They usually appear and post a few times before producing their tea, then disappear again.
PS when Tom visited Africa/India, was he wearing his 30lb leather Loki consume?
>>358 Maybe Anonon can give pointers to Tom on playing the long game to prep for s2 of TNM lol
Using the word “butthurt” in an argument on the Internet is only one step up from Godwin’s Law.
Also glad to see that as per usual the moaners claim to think what we write is shite, simultaneously with revealing that they come here and read it all, and care enough to comment.
Fake Couch with a VPN, if you would care to lurk thoroughly and read back through the boards when TR was being shot, I mentioned then that I knew colleagues on the crew. I said back then that it would take time until they felt safe enough to talk and I would endeavour to report back if there was any mention of Tom.
There's nothing like an away job with a pub meal to get tongues a wagging.
This isn't tea, it's one crew members opinion and I'd rather you walk away and ignore it or go back to Tumblr to complain. I don't come here to bullshit or to be called a bullshitter, I come here to enjoy friendly banter.
To be honest I was really shocked. I expected adoration or mention of charm. He can obviously turn on the charm when required.
One day I hope I can work with Taika. Apparently there were bean bags for crew to chill and he blasted hip hop between takes. She said he's a genius. Organised chaos. She adored Idris, he was her fav.
Also we don't have an ozone layer here so the sun is punishing and they were shooting through the Qld blistering hot summer.
Anywho, I'm not responding to the unhinged lurker any more.
Nice to see old 'faces' here, hi all x
I can't remember when I started posting. I was certainly around for pursegategate, those were such good times
>>363 It’s good to see you back. Should have said earlier.
Pursegate! That was summer 2015. You’ve been around a lot longer than 18 months.
>>361 I don't even get all indignation and rage. What Anonon shared isn't shady or salacious at all. It's not even that offensive. I thought it was funny. Would've loved to see the co-worker's impression of TH lol
>>362 >>363 Glad to hear from you again! I can't even remember when I started posting tbh so I'm gonna be terrible at remembering others but I remember you being a seasoned member when I began posting. Anonsy used to be here back then too until Tayto put her off. I was definitely here for pursegate and all the extraness TH and EO gave us for ISTL.
Taika sounds like a fun director, he certainly brought a more fun and livelier element to the Thor series. I used to find it a snoozefest out of all the Marvel Avengers series and I didn't watch the 2nd one but hopefully I'll get around to Ragnarok during the holiday downtime.
>>365 I first became aware of TH as what the lawyers call a “person of interest” in summer 14 when I watched Thor (which was ages after I had seen him in Coriolanus!!). Found this board fairly soon after but didn’t really start posting until about Feb the following year - in response to some rubbish put about on the nw3anon blog. I was more sceptical about tea then, before Tayto (joke). I started posting regularly at Pursegate - happy days! So many of us became regulars at that point. That’s when Anon. also started as a regular visitor.
It really is funny although my mouth was hugely agape while she told me. The Bond thing is unexpected and the fact that he bragged about what a great Bond he would be does not at all mean he has been promised the role, it just means that the whole time he complained in interviews about the Bond hype, he was milking it hard from behind the scenes. He's obviously hangry for the role. We all knew that anyway.
Being called a ponce is in no way flattering but it's also not that unusual a nickname for an Eton educated Brit in Australia.
It's the whingeing that really got me and I so wish I could send you a voicemail imitation.
I think Tayto put us all off- such a rapid decline from peak hot to peak tit.
EO was pure entertainment and brought out the sleuth in all of us.
What was the term used for the great door banging session witnessed by the neighbour?
>>367 I wonder if his ego wasn't all over the place during the TR shoot thanks to Tayto and its aftermath, and that might have brought out the less flattering aspects of his personality. (If I remember rightly, Anonon, you're in the biz; so as you know, it can take a heck of a lot less stress for an actor to start "acting out"!)
The hot-sun whingeing explains that pap photo from the Brisbane shoot in which he's standing around in the black suit, frowning, while some poor crew member is holding a giant umbrella to shade him!
I’ve been here since thread 1, so idk whom you are trying to impress with your longevity. Pursegate! Pfft. How about Jane Arthy? Ever thought that maybe some people here have different perceptions of Tom because they became interested in him BEFORE Tayto?
>>366 I started getting into him because of the Hollow Crown. I thought he was a handsome actor who really had some serious acting chops which is why I'm so surprised at how much he struggles to land a decent project and of course, his current drought of projects.
>>367 My American understanding of ponce was someone trying to act super cultured and intellectual and coming off obnoxious af. Is that what the main connotation behind what general public thinks of posh Brits in UK and Aus?
Tayto was such a misstep...it should have been fun like THEO but it was just sad. I love the "anonymous neighbors" (read angry fans) that always come out on twitter after he's been photographed with a girlfriend to yell at him about loud sex. Happened with both JA and EO. We should really have a word for ppl like that.
>>368 It doesn't like he was acting out though. It just sounds like he was whining about the hot weather and buying into his own hype with the Bond thing. I mean we all know Tom isn't really some super modest "aww shucks who me" kinda guy. He always humblebrags in his interviews and name drops when it's not necessary. He's just extra like that. He's always been extra. The way he'd make such a big deal about his privacy when really he's like any other ambitious celebrity and is ready to negotiate his privacy spiel if the price is right. I really think he doesn't listen to the professionals in the industry because honestly, seasoned pros in the industry (all of whom he has access to and hangs around quite a bit) have great advice that's guaranteed to give you respectable success if you have the talent. But that's only if you listen to it. I don't think Tom listens to his team or his mentors that much. ISTL is a great proof of that.
>>368 I'm American too, but I think "ponce" means (in its politest use) "effeminate."
I absolutely agree that he doesn't listen to his team or take advice much if at all, at least until (perhaps) quite recently. Tayto is even better proof of that. Here's hoping that Kenneth Branagh knocked some sense into him while they were planning and doing RadHam. And the lack of work might get through to him too....
>>368 These aktorrs do tend to be more fragile than us normal humans although some are allround solid. As its not my personal opinion that he's a whingeing bragging ponce I won't hang him by it. If I hear similar feedback from others that worked with TH then I'll struggle to be impartial.
It's impossible to hide annoying personality traits on film sets, its like camping together for months. Personality clashes are rife. I also dropped a big clue; this person HEARS MORE than other crew members.For instance I thought everyone got along famously on the shoot we just finished but she informed me the DP and director were fighting.
Holding an umbrella over an actor is actually normal. If they burn the makeup dept will hate you and if they sweat wardrobe will hate you as well
>>370 A ponce here is usually a posh effete whinger. Also known as a twat. According to urban dictionary: would live off a prostitutes earnings.
>>372 Ah, I know which department your friend worked in then.
Makes sense about the umbrella; it was just funny because the crew member wasn't even wearing a hat. (But then, neither did he have to spend several hours in makeup in the wee hours of the AM.)
I saw that other definition of ponce - pimps where you are must be much more upscale than ours!
>>371 Effeminate? Really? That's interesting. Tbh, I have only one British friend and whenever they have used ponce it's usually been with those hipster dude bros who are up their own ass with the mansplaining. Effeminate they are not lol
Let's hope so he's listening to the professionals around him now.
>>372 Okay so basically colloquially it's a similar definition to someone being an obnoxious pretentious ass. That makes more sense. Yeah, to me Tom can come off like that with his humblebrags and the overexplained academia talk. I know some fans like it when he does that but I find him so extra when he goes overboard with it in interviews that don't need answers like that. Some of the CP interviews got like that -_-
Welcome back Anonon. I think I get the gist of where your friend worked.
I've never heard the term 'ponce.' The report of whinging fits in with some gossip at the end of the relationship that TS's stylist hated TH because they thought he was a stuck up know-it-all. Said stylist was later attributed in the same gossip site as saying that it wasn't true.
>>355 Visitor - never say "never" again (see what I did there? lol) when you're talking about TH. Example 1: Tayto. Who would have guessed that relationship was going to happen.
>>374, >>375 I guess my understanding of the word was an older usage (sorry in advance, word geek here!)- see the 2nd part of this definition:
Word Origin and History for ponce (n.)
slang term, chiefly British, 1872, originally "a pimp, a man supported by women" (pouncey in same sense is attested from 1861), of unknown origin, perhaps from French pensionnaire "boarder, lodger, person living without working." Meaning "male homosexual" first attested 1932 in Auden [OED]. Also as a verb. Related: Poncey. [Online Etymology Dictionary]
>>375 There was also some gossip mid- or near the end of Tayto that he'd gone on to her squad about his double first, and he'd made fun of TS for not knowing Latin or having read certain books. Oddly, the Gossip Cop denied the first two but not the bit about the books.... He has a surprising ability to rub people the wrong way.
>>376 In Withnail and I, our heroes head to the pub after “I” (Paul McGann) has had a bath into which he has unwisely poured a whole jar of bath salts. They are approached by a drunken Irishman spoiling for a fight, who calls “I” a “perfumed ponce.” There isn’t much doubt what he means by this.
But that’s the 60s English meaning (when Withnail is set). When I was a kid it meant, more generally, someone who was a bit of a twat. Not necessarily a posh twat, as in Australia. I guess the posh part may hark back to its original meaning in the sense of an underlying stereotype of the posh man being effeminate or gay.
All these posts! I thought he'd gotten engaged...or gotten an actual job. I see neither is the case. Instead a board regular has come along and posted something completely believable and it's set a hare running through the lurking nannies.
Why I trust Anonon: when the Met Ball epileptic fit dance off happened, she was the only one on the board that raised the warning flag about a future sham-mance. She was right. I believe she was also right about the lil HIddles. She, like many on this board, has a good head on her and something sorely lacking in this world: observational skills.
Lurkers who only delurk to huff and puff: A large part of why I no longer go looking for Hiddleston nuggets on twitter or instagram is because I no longer have the time or inclination. The other part is because of lurkers. This board was for a long time the place to get the good stuff. Coach, anonsy, anon1, Anon - somehow they all managed to get the links, pics, info that no one else did. I enjoyed joining that team and doing my part. But when lurkers started to come here and snuffle around like incompetent truffle pigs, I was happy to stop reporting my finds. My hope was that if this board didn't get the scoops, you'd go away and delete the bookmark. You come, you take info away to other sites, you contribute nothing, but complain mightily when you encounter something you don’t like or disagree with - it's the very definition of internet uselessness. And I don’t care if you’ve been here since word one, when you contribute nothing but complaints, you can do one. Scram, or at the very least, go back to silent lurking.
It's beyond me why so many even bother with this board since we're all 'trolling haters' according to them.
Why I believe Anonon’s friend: Humblebragging - it’s a thing TH knows intimately, as NewAnon said. He’s always done it, even before the humblebrag to end all: his GG speech. I can imagine him doing his version of Bond humblebragging. The rumor mill tells us he did a tape with Mendes that maybe got to Broccoli, maybe he spoke to her regarding it, everyone was hyping him as the next Bond, his face was everywhere because of Tayto. He’s going to talk about those. He’s going to humblebrag about them - because if he can do it in a room full of Hollywood elite on national television, he can do it standing around set. No he’s not going to flat out say that he’s going to be the next Bond, but he’s going to imply it like it’s part of some crazy wish fulfilment process.
As to his weather complaints. Okay, he’s gone to India and Africa. So that means he wouldn’t complain about the sun. Huh??? As arguments go, ehhh, that’s not a very good one.
>>379 I believe Anonon's friend, but agree with you and another poster above that he's more likely to have been bragging about all the talk about his being the next Bond rather than about actually having gotten the role. From my past experience, many actors are highly superstitious about talking about a role for which they're being considered until they're signed, for fear of jinxing it. And if he had been in discussions for Bond, wouldn't he have had to sign an NDA? All that said, I can see him being silly enough to humblebrag about being in the running for it between takes when he thought he couldn't be overheard.
He apparently still hasn't got much more of a filter between thought and speech than he did in those 2010 interviews in >>356. (Example: he prefaced that 'pole dancing' response to the interview question "What's the first thing you would do if you became a woman?" with 'Get implants!' Classy.)
I don't think there would be an NDA if it only went as far as TH sending BB his tape, BB acknowledging the receipt of it and saying something along the lines of 'we'll be in touch.' Of course that in TH's brain (well-practiced in cognitive dissonance and soaked in all the crazy of those Tayto days) would equal 'I've auditioned for Bond and Babs and I are in talks about it.'
I believe Anonon because like everyone else said he has a history of humblebragging and being an overly conceited braggert. I always suspected it and the GG speech confirmed it.
I didn't find him that bad in the Thor 1 promo. As a matter of fact, he was more natural in a way. Its when Avengers promo started he started his overly artificial Disney Prince routine that i couldn't stand.
I hate Hiddle Nannies. That's why i barely post in any TH related forum. His fandom is filled with Nannies who actually believe he's a stereotype gentleman prince schtick.
>>378 'Incompetent truffle pigs'. Dotty you always nail it.
As is the case with secondhand information, it is likely I'm not relaying it correctly. We were all laughing quite hard throughout the imitations. I recall she said he annoyed the fuck out of the whole crew with his Bond bragging (he could have just been imitating Bond, who knows) and then she imitated him imitating being Bond and threw in an imitation of him whingeing about the sun.
The overall impression given was that he bragged and whinged his way throughout the shoot. but of course I wasn't there and this is her riling up a crew after a few bevvies.
Its possible that the sun whinge imitation was just for entertainment to prove a point but it actually didn't seem that way. She would have heard such things if they were being said.
The word ponce was mentioned many times and she definitely didn't think very highly of him amongst what sounded like a stellar cast (aside from CH's steroid mood swings).
>>383 One thing that supports the sun whingeing - he started shooting right after the infamous July 4 party. Remember the pictures of Tayto arriving at the Sydney airport and his face was lobster-red? He might literally have been sensitive to any more sun exposure after that. Doesn't excuse the whingeing, though.
>>384 He should have been flushed red from embarrassment after that parade.
It's also highly likely that the reason he had such a long makeup call each morning was to camouflage his tan.
Most actors would deliberately avoid sun before a pale shoot to help things along. The ones that do the opposite with the attitude 'this is how I am, deal with it' for obvious reasons are never my favs and I am prone to giving them a sermon. Sunburnt skin is the hardest to cover. What an arse.
It all seems to back my impression that he rocked up to the Thor set after his summer of twatting about completely out of shape, sunburnt and having done little to no prep. Thus the morning jogs and 3am gym sessions and the lack of sleep and the real/ fake girlfriend who no doubt was losing her shit all over the place probably contributed to the excessive whingeing.
>>383 This just proves what Barbara Broccoli said about Tom; that he's too smug and too weak to play Bond.
He sounds like an egomaniac. He honestly thought he had the Bond role. But his over ambition really got the best of him after his little height of fame and praise with The Night Manager. I could only imagine if he was up for an Oscar or any other sought after role.
He already sounds incredibly snobby with the cold fish way he's been treating some of his fans as of late. Like if he's better then everyone when not realizing he had lowered himself to Kardashian levels of desperation and famewhoreness with the summer of 2016.
He sounds like a child rather then a 36 year old man. Is that why he goes after young women who are almost a decade younger then him and are more famous then him? Is this why he's using a puppy as a security blanket for his fragile ego?
His fans always proclaim he's really mature simply because he went to the most prestigious schools in London and because of Shakespeare or some nonsense. But he really is probably emotionally and mentally stunted. That GQ interview confirmed that.
And duh Australia is hot during that time. He sounds obnoxious and insufferably arrogant. His lack of self-awareness and how he comes off to people who aren't from Tumblr is cringe inducing.
>>385 Maybe he's so jaded being known for Loki for so long that he doesn't feel the need to make any effort since the fangirls eat it up no matter what. That wig he's wearing in Ragnarok is awful.
>>385 I read this and then remembered that he had only been twatting around for THREE weeks at this point. Felt like an eternity, didn't it? He had to pick between contracts. Either stay out of the sun and fulfill his Marvel contract or romp in the surf to fulfill his Tayto contract.
>>386 I never got smug off of him but it might have been a result of his ambitiousness. He's a hustler. He's always working, or was always working. That was one of his better qualities. People tend to like go-getters. But his version of it often strayed into sycophancy and over-ambitiousness.
>>386 What have you seen about how he's been treating some of his fans lately? I've only read anecdotes about him politely refusing to have his picture taken with random people who approach him. But they've all said some variant of how nice he was in chatting with them.
Wow! Quite a discussion. Cool article on all of the costumes of Thor 3, by the costume desigenr Mayes C Rubeo, including why Loki's costume changes colour in the film due to his emotional arc, and how Chris Hemsworth's body armor was sculpted to fit his body!
I think it's thoroughly possible that Tom complained about the sun. We all get cranky, and we all have emotional limits. He can't be courteous/charming/amenable in any situation. And mannered Englishmen aren't everyone's cup of tea. I have a good gal pal who thinks that the sort of refined countenance of most British male actors (Eddie Redmayne, Matt Smith, Tom, etc) makes them all come off as effeminate, due to their posture, vocal quality, and hand gestures! I'd find it fascinating if Tom actually thought he could land Bond, even as the whole fauxmance with TS went tits up! Or whether Taffy (the GQ article authoress) was correct in her assessment that Tom enjoys doing impressions not to entertain others, but rather to personally revel in his own systematically developed performance capabilities?
https://fashionista.com/2017/11/thor-ragnarok-movie-costumes?utm_source=site&utm_campaign=related
>>391 Nice picture of him! Wonder if that's his sister Emma, who's also listed as a reader. (Compare their noses.)
>>392 I don’t think it is. Have a look at the pics of her in that article by her I posted a few weeks ago.
>>393 Sorry I thought you meant Sarah. Emma is quite a lot younger than that lady.
>>396 I had that impression as well. There was an article recently-ish which describes Emma as a midwife. It came from one of those round table press junket interviews so it could have been someone making a mistake - as people have pointed out you get 10 slightly different versions of the same quote. But I thought it was an oddly specific mistake to make, meaning hard to mishear for something else.
I thought it was in GQ. I can't bear to look or give that article another click but wasn't it when he was gushing about his solidly middle class upbringing. Eyes set to roll.
Surely Taff wouldn't get that wrong. Eyes commencing roll maneuver.
Good to see gossip sites haven't forgotten our sun-hating recluse. Right?
http://dlisted.com/2017/12/06/we-almost-had-a-james-bond-film-starring-hugh-jackman/