Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
We know have pics of TH arriving at Burbank...from The Image Direct and held a day - again.
Someone check on anonsy, make sure she has enough tinfoil.
or 'now' even. My spelling must be on holiday with Couch's...but I don't have the excuse of English being a second language!
And GossipCop has already denied the existence of any proposal or ring! Such a game!
While Swift and Hiddleston’s relationship may not last, an “ultimatum” has nothing to do with it. Swift was never pressuring Hiddleston to propose, as Gossip Cop has already busted. And we’re now told there’s been no engagement ring and proposal drama like In Touch is claiming.
>>4 Did they do it with: 'GC can confirm that Tim Huddleston has never been allowed a drawer at Taylor Swift's $48m mansion (the superstar made $14b last year because she's that talented). And furthermore GC can confirm from inside sources close to the couple, who are both talented and in love, that the Taylor did not spend the weekend searching Tim's drawers but instead filling out her check for $1m to help survivors of the floods in Louisiana. She also spent time over the weekend taking local orphans ice skating.'
>>5 Ha ha. And wow! the Gossip Cop quote, "While Swift and Hiddleston’s relationship may not last," from the publicists marks the countdown to the end of this fauxmance, I think! Their PR is officially suggesting an end to the relationship. Nothing by Gossip Cop is accidental.
>>6 Good spot.
I think he was in RI - left Saturday, back Tuesday. No longer has the gift bag. Now en route to Aus - alone.
>>2 I suppose in a day we'll get photos of him at LAX.
>>7 Bye Bye gift then? Noooo, I want them to walk the red carpet together at the Emmys and someone asking TH about Kim Kardashian. If Karlie Kloss made a faux pas with it, imagine TH's hands-wringing-hehehe-hmmm answer.
>>6 That "may not last" line basically means the breakup already happened and this is as close to an official statement as we're getting for now. TayTo are letting us know not to be too surprised if we don't see pap strolls anymore. Gossip Cop wouldn't print a line as telling as that. They always print stuff coming directly from publicists. No wonder the pains they took not to be photographed or filmed together at all during RI. Must have been wrapping everything up in this thirst game.
>>5 That $1 million donation gave her more positive publicity in under 24 hours than her entire summer of love tour with Tom did in two months. Even her haters are giving her mad respect and props for it. I'm just glad this way the Lousiana flood is getting more coverage otherwise it was completely buried under Olympics and Trump shenanigans.
Lol maybe that's why she flew Tom over. To break up. "Listen Tom it was fun and all but it's not going to work out anymore. I've decided to go in a different direction that's more reliable. Thanks for playing though. Here's a new I heart TS as a parting gift."
>>10 Game of Thirst. This would make a great HBO series once Game of Thrones ends. Fewer dragons, more thirsty celebs strolling around and whoring out their private lives and families for attention.
>>11 Giving a $1 million dollar donation to Louisiana is a wonderful thing. And congrats to her for giving assistance in a terrible situation. However, the dailymail wouldn't let anyone comment on the donation article for quite some time. And when the comments finally appeared, they were all positive for TS. It is it bizarre of me to think that some Tree Paine minions are controlling that page of the dailymail? B/c I don't think that the general public opinion of TS can phase shift that quickly w/o a little PR razzle dazzle behind the scenes. Again, she is quite generous, and more generous than some other public figures. Just a thought.
>>14 I think the DM doesn't care one way or the other: good comments, bad comments, they still get the clicks. It may have to do with their comment vetting. Some articles are moderated and some aren't. I think a program vets the articles, as I've seen people get away with replacing curse words with words a computer program wouldn't catch, i.e., w@nker or t1ts. If there are too many articles being vetted by the program, they may not allow comments until they're able to moderate them. Is the Swift article a moderated or non-moderated one?
Tom Hiddleston arriving in LA on August 16, 2016
>>17 Oh planted article, we were just waiting for you to join us. Will the rest of your party be arriving soon: People, EOnline, DM?
I'm going to do like SoSorry and paste the text into a message. Let's not give them the clicks they want:
The “Shake It Off” singer, 26, sent her private jet to Los Angeles’ Hollywood Burbank Airport on Sunday, August 14, where it picked up the Night Manager actor, 35. Clad in a cream-colored long-sleeve shirt and black pants, Hiddleston was spotted boarding the jet with an overnight backpack while carrying a gift bag. According to the source, the British hunk traveled to his girlfriend’s oceanfront mansion in Watch Hill, Rhode Island, where he spent some quality time with her family. She was spotted greeting him on the plane upon his arrival in the Ocean State.
So a few of the Tumblr gatekeepers were mentioned in the latest Tayto Dlisted comment section. Berlinale was accused of running people out of the fandom with her unique mix of nasty and crazy, which sounds about right.
Then 'crazy intelligent' was mentioned and a link put up to her page. I clicked through and fell down the Tumblr wormhole. Her page is interesting. But what I got from it was: girl is hanging on by a thread! TH might not be having a breakdown (thanks, Gossip Cop for setting us straight on that one), but crazy intelligent just might, and soon.
>>21 There is a clique of Swifties led by that girl Magen mentioned in one of those screenshots. If anyone does anything they don't like, or says anything that contradicts their very specific version of events they've more often than not made up in their own heads, they go after them full force. Magen didn't like the jetanon blog because they were anti-Hiddleswift and posted TS's jet numbers (which are really easy to find, I know we've got them on here a couple threads back), so she instructed her followers to spam and harass them. They sent jetanon death threats and spammed with hate messages from sock puppet accounts for three days until the blog finally deactivated.
>>20 1. Why is TS insinuating that TH was visiting she and her family, when she had already flown her family back to Nashville via NYC? And for the record, your man plus your parents does not equal sexy times!
2. Why did TS apparently invite people over on Sat and Sun in Watch Hill >>21 if she and TH were supposed to be having a private romantic reunion that would have to hold them for a month? Weird.
1) Taylor Swift does not do sexy. She does wholesome and whimsy and romantic. So the article will say her parents and her and Tom had some good wholesome lovely family time. No sexy times talk.
2) Do we know for sure those slide videos were from Sat and not old 4th of July ones?
>>17 An article!! About the fond farewell before he heads back to Oz!! I am so not eating any of my clothing.
>>21 I am supremely indifferent to the super clever one getting it in the neck from all the crazy Swifties. She has been leaping on anyone who didn't toe the party line (eg suggested the relationship was fake or that maybe TH was a plonker for wearing the t shirt). So I have no sympathy at all now she is receiving a taste of her own medicine. She has also sheltered and defended Berlinale despite her appalling behaviour to others.
>>22 >>26 My favorite message was from the Swiftie who talked about RI and said 'she never gets papped there unless it's a holiday or special occasion.' Yes, like introducing your new PRmance to the world. I guess that counts as a 'special occasion' which opens her up to magically being papped in RI.
Okay, the weirdness continues. Apparently the stewardess who saw Tom wearing the black shirt and posted the pics at instagram, jiwashee, said that she saw TH at 11pm Tuesday. But, it's daylight in their photo! And when she was questioned about the time that she saw him, she deleted the comment. And also, the two girls who claimed to have seen TH at LAX on Tuesday, Melissabrown@hobbitboogie and morgan@six_32, have cryptic twitter accounts and have actually tweeted each other before! People are asserting that the plane stunt and weird tweets mean that he's been in Brisbane all this time. Conversely, if TH left for Brisbane on Tuesday at 11:24pm, he already arrived on Thursday Aug 18 at 5:24am on Qantas (they're hours ahead.) And we will know, or not, if HD Brisbane arrival pics pop up. So, the subterfuge continues. My head hurts. Please someone sleuth this out.
>>28 What a mess. If they are pulling shenanigans and he managed to get into LAX without being papped, I'll be surprised if Brisbane airport pics show up - he would need to avoid them too if there is some sort of false timeline he's working with. Unless they just say they were taken on a different date like they did with the pics from Saturday.
This HL article is garbage of course, because the timeline makes no sense.
>>29 Also, someone pointed out that if TH actually flew back from RH on Tuesday, that he could have just landed at LAX like he and TS did on the way to Oz. That would have been the most time efficient thing to do if he was flying commercial on Qantas, the same day at LAX. But the difference between Burbank and LAX is that you can't take pics on the Tarmac at LAX. So TH only must have used Burbank to stage photos of a real departure and arrival from RH, or to fake ones our benefit. Wild.
>>31 Personally, I believe he went to RI. Even if he didn't, that doesn't matter in the larger picture of this relationship. In terms of his and her credibility, yes, those possible lies and manipulations matter, but not in regards to the validity of the relationship.
>>32 OMG! Heezy! on tumblr just published an iPhone screen cap of when the TH arrival photos were uploaded online! The supposed arrival of TH from Rhode Island pics were uploaded online on Monday at 9pm pacific, which means that the photos of TH in front of TSs jet are fake, because The TS plane was not back at Burbank till Tuesday night! Wow! Could someone pretty please post a link who is savvy with a computer?
And now People has there article up. Again, I'm not willing to give them clicks:
Tom Hiddleston Reunites with Taylor Swift in Rhode Island – Courtesy of Her Private Plane
>>34 If you have a few minutes go to wthanon4u on tumblr and check out the recent posts about the photos from not-August-16. Summary is that the upload timestamps are from the 15th and the plane in the background of the pics wasn't at Burbank or LAX when Taylor's jet landed on the 16th, therefore the pictures couldn't have been taken then
>>34 Wow. Thanks for the People info. That People article is annoying. Interestingly, jetanon has now PROVEN that the pictures of TH coming down from the Swift plane in the black shirt allegedly taken on Aug 16th were completely staged due to the fact that the plane behind him on the tarmac was flying on the 16th and thus was not at Burbank,"they were NOT taken on August 16. N582JS made two flights that day, one around noon PST that landed at LAX, and then one that flew from LAX shortly after that flew towards San Diego. It didn't fly the rest of the day!"
TS is in Nashville
Like Anon. I don't see what difference does it make in the big scheme of things whether he actually flew to RI or went along with another stage of pics which to me seems still too elaborate.
They're a MESS. These two are.a.mess. I've run out of sighs. The sigh tank is empty.
I'm not totally sold on the TH didn't go to RI theory, but it wouldn't surprise me. Because every time we thought their mess couldn't get any messier, it HAS.
Apparently if you download a torilla photo of TH from the alleged August 16th arrival date at Burbank, and then you hit properties and right click, you see the metadata table for photo and when the photo was originally saved to the server online. The gals on lipstick alley just double checked. A lipstick alley girl got a photo that was uploaded to the original server on August 16 at 12 am in the morning! And Team Swift is claiming that TH got to Burbank from RI and was papped by image direct sometime between 7-8pm on August 16th in the evening when the TS jet landed on August 16th. It's just a farce. Everyone's checking the meta data records to prove it! Golly!
Exploding with sighs here.
I don't consider this new evidence concrete enough to unravel my new roll of tinfoil. Yet.
I think he went to RI on Saturday and somehow evaded the guy filming the plane's arrival (whether by cunning or bribery who knows). Mad though the last months have been I still just about think it is a stretch too far to say he faked going to RI. What's the point? He has a few days free, and even if the relationship is totally fake they liked each other enough to be willing to engage in PDA in public and to actually genuinely spend a lot of time together. So unless they now loathe each other, if he wants to present a narrative that they spent the weekend together, why not just go to RI for a weekend?
>>38 Exactly, in the end we are trying to determine the type and level of cringe TH decided to perform this past weekend, but we are still talking of cringe.
>>37 1) She has no boobs in the photo. 2) Of course she's wearing makeup to work out, which is a very bad thing for the skin.
>>36 N582JS is another plane
>>45 Yeah, JetAnon used that other plane's, N582JS, log to figure out if Tom did arrive in LA on the dates the paps be tabloids claim. That's what SoSorry means.
>>45 Yes, I know. N582JS is not a Swift a plane. N582JS is a plane that was photographed behind TH, in the photo of him allegedly arriving from RI on the evening of August 16 in the black shirt. And Jetnon is saying that that plane was not on the tarmac at Burbank on the evening of August 16, making the Swift team timeline impossible. She's currently checking the charts to see all of the flights and destinations the N582JS took from August 13-August 16. Sorry for confusion. Love hearing all of the theories and conclusions from everyone!
This whole thing now is making it look like Tom wasn't really in RI. Otherwise why fake the dates? If he went to RI, what would faking the dates achieve?
The only reason I can think of for them faking the dates on those pics and all of this is if he never went to RI and flew out to Oz on Sun, and they wanted to make it look like the relationship was still going strong even though he didn't have time or make time to go see Taylor. Otherwise why lie about the dates?
>>48 I don't think he can have flown out on Sunday because of the pic with the stewardess. If he flew Sunday, she could not have seen him leaving LAX on Tuesday evening. I just do not believe that TH could or would ask a fan not to release a pic for a certain period, or to give it a fake date. Too risky. What if she sold that tale to the tabloids?
It's so easy to spot the fake Twitter accounts paid by celebrities! You don't even need to look at their timelines. Just go to Twitter and type "Tom Hiddleston" in the search field. You'll see the same story ( TH jets into LA on Taylor Swift's private jet) in severam sequential tweet by different twitter accounts (even their twitter profile pics and description are clearly fake and similar).
Wow! E! news long article that say it is not really buying that the TH TS is real and can last. B/c TH is so uncomfortable and awkward in the press, and didn't know what he was signing up for hanging out with TS. It even mentions a snarky lack or RI pics from the weekend! Can anyone link this for me? Its on E! News website.
E! news Natalie Finn's link to the article via her twitter account
>>50 The stewardess never said where she saw Tom. We're assuming LAX because of the tweets and Taylor's flight trajectory and of course the pap pcs.?The stewardess did answer that she met him 3 hrs before from when she posted the pic but deleted that comment. The pic could be from Australia for all we know.
Studio Gal from Marvel has a new alleged update on TH regarding TS lack of showing at the Adele concert and the plane stunt. It's pretty juicy if it's true.
>>56 I'm not really buying what Studio Gal has been selling so far. Also Luke's reply to studio execs is not something that would ever happen in real life.
I've been thinking about it and I don't think the metadata thing and timeline not matching up is that big of a deal because it's just the dates that are off. The rest, her plane picking him up and dropping him off and the jumpy pap video of Taylor getting on her plane but never getting off video, all seem to indicate he was there in Rhode Island with her.
>>57 I'll agree with not buying Studio Gal. How does she know so much about what TS was going to do? She supposedly works at Marvel but knows all about TS's publicity plans with Adele. She also knows TH's Emmy interview schedule (which had little to do with Marvel except at the very end point, i.d., when he'd return). And of course she knows that AMC was paying for his room; doesn't everyone? AMC was sponsoring his Emmy push. That's the mix of crystal ball and the obvious that a catfisher uses. No, no, no.
>>57 I won't agree with the Emmys or that this low key approach is part of a new strategy. I know that Lainey thinks they're going to keep it on the DL until the Emmys and then make their triumphal RC debut. But she's saying that because he's got to work and seems to be done with his Emmy campaign. So there'll be no more (or fewer) trips back to the US. Then it would be the case that Tayto wouldn't have as many pap stroll opportunities. She's just going with the obvious; Lainey can be cheap like that. Because you can bet that if there were an opportunity, they would stroll. Low key is not in their playbook. Well, not in hers. Remember post SnapchatGate everyone and their mother was screaming, 'Tay, stay out of the spotlight.' She couldn't. Paps when they got back from Oz, pap dinner, the daily gym in NYC, IG gardening with the parents. She cannot do on the DL. It's not in her nature. It's only opportunity that's keeping them from pap strolling. They pap strolled this past weekend: the pics at the airport and the articles from multiple outlets.
The Emmys are a conundrum. Remember Kanye is nominated for the "Famous" video with TS's waxed naked body in it. And Beyoncé is nominated for "Lemonade". I don't think that TS will want to face Kanye and KK at the awards at all since they are arch rivals, or face Beyoncé either, because TS is the only one who is not nominated for an Emmy! TS could do a low key date night, and just attend the Emmy parties after the ceremony with TH. TH will probably hang with Benedict and Idris, and they could sit in a booth privately, etc. But, somehow I can't see TS wearing a simple black dress, like Amal Clooney, and being an elegant appendage and a dutiful date for TH. To TS she is a swan, not a dutiful hand maiden. Plus, TH would first, have to walk the red carpet w/o TS, and try to keep the focus on his nomination and his work, while fending off all the annoying "Where's TS" questions. I hope that TH will have to skip the Emmys for Thor 3, and they can end this by latest mid-September. Again I have no proof of this, but I think that the dinner at Hillstone that TS had to boomerang back overnight to LA for was suspect. It was if that was the last photo stunt with him that she could plan. And I hope that the Gossip Cop "relationship may not last" quote is a PR clue. But I think I could be biased because of that. Any thoughts?
>>59 I completely agree with you on the inability of TS to be low key. But my new guess for the end of this is early October. TS doesn't have anything planned till the Formula one concerts on Oct 21 Texas. So If there is going to be a split, she will have to have some positive press on the horizon. And TH is filming Thor 3 though Nov, anyway.
>>59 Except that TH is the one who is working right now and the one who was working in LA and yet it wasn't TS who flew to LA to spend time together but TH. If he didn't want this type of fame he wouldn't have moved from LA.
>>62 Yes that's true. However, if they had continued dinner nights out in LA, they could have been accused of wanting to be seen together, more than wanting to be in each other's company. RI is private, it implies mystery. Plus, its good for TS because it looks like he's chasing her. However, if TS had just chartered a private plane and flown to LA undercover, they would have had 6 whole nights, together, and not 3. Wouldn't lovers want 6 whole days and nights together before a month separation before the Emmys? Why if you're in love or lust do want less time together. Weird.
>>57 >>58 Studio Gal lost all credibility with that post. It read like desperate stan fiction. I've never subscribed to this outrageous conspiracy theory about RI stunting and I'm just not prepared to reach that far without solid proof, and solid enough proof has not been provided.
Despite that, they obviously stunted and fed their fav press those plane pics and articles about their weekend together.
I am back in Aldeburgh for a long weekend and I have couple of crumbs for you.
1) the flat black sandal mules (slides) TS was wearing on the beach were purchased from a boutique there (I saw them on sale). Makes me wonder if the trip to see mama H was spontaneous (thrust on TH by her). I can understand that she might not have parked wellies, but sandals? For a beach trip followed by Rome? All most odd.
>>60 Are you thinking VMAs? I didn't think either KW or B had Emmy noms.
>>65 The theory was that this family get together was planned in advance of Tayto's existence but I wouldn't be surprised if their stop off in the UK and the Rome trip were on the hoof plans. Even after the cozy Nashville restaurant pics, broadsheets and tabloids were still side-eyeing them big time. They quickly threw out the story (I don't think it really happened) of her introducing him to her parents and started working on legitimizing the relationship. What says 'legitimate relationship' more than meeting the parents and taking a romantic trip?!
>>66 Beyoncé is Emmy nominated for the hbo special of the lemonade album! But not Kanye. Sorry I misspoke. Thanks for the check.
>>66 Aldeburgh has some of the best fish and chips anywhere (in summer there are huge queues outside the Golden Galleon the whole time it is open). TH's car is not worth the sacrifice, even though it is the most elegant thing that's been near TH's arse all summer.
The Sun is pushing the RC appearance angle:
>>69 Again, no more clicks for Tayto.
TOM HIDDLESTON and TAYLOR SWIFT have become showbiz’s shining couple since I first revealed their secret relationship to the world in June.Now, after months of dinner dates and secret holidays, they are planning to go official next month by making their first proper public appearance together at the Emmy Awards. British heartthrob Tom is up for the Best Actor in a Limited Series or Television Movie gong for his role in BBC drama The Night Manager and Taylor is set to be by his side to celebrate. An awards insider told me: “Tom normally doesn’t like his public life overlapping with his private life but he is so happy with Taylor that it’s the perfect time. “The event organisers have extended an invite for a ‘guest’ to join him because they know if they walk the red carpet together it will make it the most talked-about show of the year. “While the Emmys may be about celebrating the best shows on television, the organisers that weekend are looking for just one show — Taylor and Tom. “The Emmys red carpet itself would give them the most publicity, and organisers have made it clear to Tom and his reps that she is more than welcome to join him.” Taylor is no stranger to the Emmys having won the Original Interactive Program award last year. But there is competition from other events who are vying to get them both together as guests. I’ve learned the LA branch of Bafta is throwing a private tea party the night before the awards, which will be attended by the best British actors in town. My source said: “The organisers have extended an invite to Tom and his guests, knowing that Taylor loves British tea, Downton Abbey and is a fan of many TV stars from this country.” When Taylor started dating CALVIN HARRIS last year the couple made their first official outing at another awards bash, the Billboard Music Awards. It’s like history repeating itself.
My fav quotes include:
I really can't understand why she has so many bodyguards. There are so many A-list celebrities who drive their own cars and travel comercial. And even those who do have bodyguards are more discreet (usually 1 bodyguard without earphones). She thinks she's the fucking POTUS. So pathetic!
Sorry, I wanted to write "fly commercial".
>>72 I read this and screamed aloud, "SECRET HOLIDAYS?!!!!!"
Fan fiction at its finest. But the Sun has to support the relationship because it broke the story.
>>59 "remember the small fire he nearly started by wringing his hands" LOL! His reaction was absolutely hilarious to watch. For a man who craves fame, he's so woefully unprepared for all the unpredictable, sneaky, invasive questions it brings with it. You're right about Taylor unable to lay low, she has this pathological need to keep herself relevant and constantly update everyone on her life like a Facebook status. But I think Tom likes/ wants that because I do agree with you on him being in a bubble right now and refusing to accept the negativity or even acknowledge that level of negative press to himself. I don't know though if he's really all that bothered about all his fame coming because of Taylor for now. He's probably still viewing it like the MET gala dance, that it got huge coverage because it was Taylor AND him dancing together and not because Taylor Swift danced at the MET with this British actor named Tom Hiddleston. That their relationship is getting coverage because it's Taylor AND him, not because it's Taylor Swift in another new relationship soon after her breakup. Meaning he sees himself (or deluded himself) as just an equally famous half of their coupling and that he's finally getting the recognition he's always deserved. I do get a sense he has that high opinion of himself with all that humble bragging he does. But if they go, I do think Emmy red carpet will be that wake up call that he's been running from this entire time.
>>72 Don't all award shows give out a plus one to their guests lol I doubt Tom's is a special one with Taylor's name embossed on it.
Nice try Sun but this couple isn't shining or secret. But thanks for confirming Taylor's Anglophile obsession.
Btw, I don't know if we discussed it and I missed it but the latest Gossip Cop dropped a breakup hint and considering how everything they say is directly from HQ, it's not a mistake. They've always made sure to say they're going strong but this time when debunking the found ring in sock drawer proposal story, they said "While Swift and Hiddleston’s relationship may not last, an “ultimatum” has nothing to do with it."
>>76 I just keep thinking about his face when he got asked if Taylor was with him at SDCC - that was not the reaction of a happy man. I also think Team Tom specifically asked for no Taylor questions at the Facebook Q&A last week, and when they managed to get that "summer in the spotlight" question in anyway, the mere implication of Taylor was enough to send him into near-breakdown mode. I don't believe he's deluded anymore. To me it looks like he's desperately trying to hold on to his own identity as 'Tom Hiddleston, actor' as it's being swallowed up by 'Tom Swift, boyfriend.'
>>78 Yes we did - but it just goes to show that everyone is independently picking up the same subliminal message from that article.
>>76 He's already experienced that when he arrived in Australia with her. He was there as the star of a big Hollywood film and she was there only as his girlfriend. It should be all about him but the media only cared about her. At the airport and outside his hotel. Only her name was shouted, all the fans were hers (he was only Taylor's boyfriend) and all the questions were about her. He even tried telling a reporter that he rather ralk about HIS work but it didn't work. He was just the boyfriend.
>>80 Ah no wonder you guys don't see an Emmy red carpet! In my defense I just picked up on that imminent breakup message.
>>79 His reaction at SDCC was barely contained lol Now that I've read Gossip Cop's latest TayTo update, I'm seeing what you guys mean. The interviews in Aus were terrible with him trying to talk work and them ignoring him so they could get him to pose with Taylor's fan lol
She might still be there as his +1 without walking the red carpet with him.
>>73 She's most likely getting more than her share of loons contacting her. I'm sure some of them have escalated to a scary level and she's being overly cautious. If that's the reason, I don't blame her (thinking back to several celebrity shootings, stabbings, break-ins).
>>83 I don't think that move is an acceptable one for her. She's all about that heightened visibility lifestyle. She said it one of her interviews a while back, "When I first started writing songs, I was always scared that my songs were too personal — like, if I put someone's name in a song, people won't relate to it as much. But what I saw happening was, if I let my fans into my life and my feelings and what I'm going through — my vulnerabilities, my fears, my insecurities — it turns out they have all those things, too, and it kind of connects us." http://www.npr.org/2012/11/03/164186569/taylor-swift-my-confidence-is-easy-to-shake
>>85 It doesn't surprise me. Her "music" is so bad that it wouldn't be relevant for itself. So he transforms her lihe in a reality show to sell records and concerts. She's as much a realitity star as the Kardashians. At least the Kardashians don't try to hide what they are. What bothers me is that Tom Hiddleston is becoming a reality star too, instead of a serious actor.
TH just tweeted about vulnerable children in Africa. Admirable. Most people do nothing. But Emmy voting is in full swing. And I think TH is trying to reclaim his prior image as a humanitarian/thespian in the press. I think he is waking up to the gravity of the world view that his private looks like a bit like a circus, in which he seems to have second billing, sadly.
>>65 I'm starting to wonder if his house is going through renovation (back in May there was a tweet from an interior designer to TH where she told him to contact her if he decided to do one. It was later deleted, I think it was posted by Theoanon). Maybe TH's family and Rome were his idea to sell the stunt.
>>88 I remember that, though I did wonder at the time if he met the woman at a party and said "oh you are an interior designer, I've been thinking about redoing my house." As small talk but then she promptly tweets him looking for the work! He said something in an interview fairly recently about how when he was home he had lunch with his sisters and thought about redoing his kitchen, which made it sound rather vague and speculative (since this is a man who bought the vendor's furniture when he moved in!)
Blog wthanon4u posted an opinion piece from a long time HW PR friend about The Relationship. Very long:
>>90 That's fairly possible. I even remember him mentioning in an interview that he doesn't do anything fancy in his free time (pre-TS), reading, watching films, spending time with his family and thinking how to renovate his house.
Alternatively, he maybe decided to sell that house and buy a fancier ones.
>>91 I read that this morning (for me) and thought that either all of us at this board have a secret job as a HW PR, or we have a natural talent for it :)
Apparently #TaylorStayHome from the Emmys in trending on Twitter. TH was out to dinner in Australia. And someone on the E! about TH not realizing what he was getting into with TS just commented on the "fake" RI pics.
He Thor looks great! Tom Hiddleston enjoys dinner with a friend on the Gold Coast after returning Down Under to film Marvel blockbuster
>>94 What's happened to Olly, I wonder? He is Tom's go to date when he hasn't got anyone else/is working.
>>93 It's all rather obvious, isn't it? 30+ years in the PR world and there's nothing much beyond the obvious in her post. Perhaps she was thinking we needed a primer when we really need more advanced reading. I've always been of the opinion that very few professions require specific, special subject knowledge: academia, medicine, the law, certain tech jobs. The others just require common sense and a bit of training. PR must fall into the latter category.
A while back I posted an article about EO's most recent project, which is about a fan that becomes obsessed with social media and a celeb called Taylor. It seems EO has created an IG for her character. It's all coincidence - I don't think she's making a veiled reference to Tayto - but the name of the IG is hi-larry. https://www.instagram.com/_welltaylored_/
>>97 I think that her friend Jade-Olivia follows the "official" account, as do a few others from the Avengers cast (not TH!!!!). That makes me think it is as it says, a placeholder to stop imposters. There was a spate of quite convincing fakes in about March, apparently to capitalise on the ongoing THEO traction.
>>97 I do wonder about the character name a bit! My thought is that they were always intending to reference TS as the celeb character, because she is such a social media whore, I mean maven. I am sure it was a decision made long before TayTo was a twinkle in TH's crotch area.
>>99 I just looked back a few posts in the character's IG and I found this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BHWPE7wDO_z/?taken-by=_welltaylored_
"Squad goals", eh? I think I am right.....
>>100 I saw that! I figured it was a nod to TS's SM shenanigans and dismissed it as possible shade simply because I don't think EO gives a shit about Tayto. She must be cackling, like so many of us, about TH getting what he wanted, but really not getting what he wanted.
>>101 That's what I mean. I think it is about TS but not about TayTo.
>>101 I don't think EO runs this IG account. It's a character account, it's obviously run my the film's marketing team. Or it is an account created by someone who read the news about the film and decided to have some fun with the character and TS.
>>102 If I were either member of Tayto, I'd put a thumbs-up emoji here!!
>>103 I think it is EO only because two of the people who regularly leave messages on it are her close friends but she is doing it as her character, so there are inspirational, aspirational, #soblessed posts meant to mirror celeb IGs.
>>98 I just butt in to say that the tabloids didn't lost interest in her, she still gets regularly papped
>>101 I agree, I bet she is, no wonder.
Has Hemsworth started following TH on instagram?
>>96 I just read the article posted by that publicist friend of the WTH tumblr. I agree - all a bit basic. We have picked up that much from our own observations, I feel.
The bit I did find very interesting was that she viewed the relationship the other way round. Most people (news outlets, us, tumblr) have been thinking that it started fake and may become or may have become genuine. She started from the other end - she seemed to think it may have started off genuine but that the tail has started to wag the dog such that it is all now about what the realtinshop can do for their publicity machines.
>>107 I think that these crazy kids did have fun dancing with each other at the met ball! And TH was definitely impressed by TS's coterie of model friends, fame, and how she handles the press. So he thought it would be fun to spend time in Swift world. But my personal opinion is that their body language is so awkward with the off center kisses, and weird handholding, that its not a romantic pairing. Most gals girls have more heat with attractive male friends that they've never hooked up with, then these two have in their pics. It's a waiting game till the VMAs are over and Emmy voting ends. They can't sell a story to a magazine about two very successful people who have access to planes, trains and automobiles, and are choosing not to see each other for 4 whole weeks! Because then, how enamoured with each other could they be? So we have the "will they or won't they Emmy together" stories. Just my two cents.
>>107 That could be because she had little knowledge of TH and his 'supposed' feelings toward women, fame, his private life. She didn't experience the WTF? moments most of his in-the-know fans did with those first few weeks of Tayto. Having started out thinking it was real, I'm now fairly convinced it never was and likely never will be. I've come to see that very little in TS's life is real or honest. And TH's authenticity has been shown to be undercooked as well, despite the constant lip service he pays to it. So why would a sprung-up-over-night relationship between them be anything other than undercooked authenticity and reality as well.
>>109 I didn't mean I necessarily agree with her. I also think it started fake, and is likely to remain so, though it may possibly develop into something (due to Stockholm Syndrome, as much as anything).
I just thought it was an interesting perspective as a matter of generality. We are very cynical about what people will do for publicity, but it suggests that maybe what is more likely to happen is that two stars get involved because they like each other, they met on set, whatever - but very quickly their publicists start running the show. Then the kernel of honesty at the centre gets so overwhelmed that after a time even the participants can't remember what it was, and can't tell truth from fiction. Then they break up, and the cycle starts again.
Wow! The recent dailymail article on TH and his male friend having dinner has been amended to saying that TH is planning on making TS his Emmy date, and the dailymail has added a pic of the Hillstone dinner pap walk. And a video of him running near the hotel they stayed at together before. The the dailymail neutral and just going for clicks, or is Tree Paine involved?
>>111 The Mail very often amends its articles in light of other news outlets' articles, or as events develop. I wouldn't read much into it.
Apparently TS just unfollowed Tom on IG, allegedly. Can someone good with IG check?!
He's still there. That was weird.
>>113 He doesn't show up when I scroll through her following list but when I search his name, he shows up. I think IG takes a few minutes to update it through the search function but reflects immediately in the following list.
I think it was a false alarm, someone just screen capped his name on the list. But I'm not tech savvy.
>>115 I had this weirdness when I checked out Olly Auld's IG (still answering if they have parted company). He appeared not to be following TH but if you searched he was. FWIW I just searched and TS was there in TS's follow list and I didn't need to search.
It's not showing him on her list on my end. Only when I search him he shows up. I don't know what's going on anymore lol
These kids and their social media declaring relationship statuses eyeroll
>>110 Oh, I didn't think you were giving it a thumbs-up emoji. It was just a suggestion as to why her view might be difference from some of his long standing fans (we lucky few included).
It's certainly a surreal Hollywood take on arranged marriages, the publicists acting as matchmakers and doing so in the best interests of their clients.
I think if either unfollowed the other, we'd know. To paraphrase: there would be a great disturbance in the Swifties, millions of voices suddenly crying out.
I'm actually waiting for the day. My only hope is that it comes before Nov so I don't have to worry about missing it.
She's not following TH in my IG.
I also just had a look at that private IG account that may belong to TH and one more person has been unfollowed.
>>117 Olly didn't follow TH until a day or two ago
He's still on her IG on my list, just throwing my two cents in as well.
A lot of anxious hand gestures in this interview!
"New York City comes to Brisbane ahead of Thor: Ragnarok shoot"
The article in itself is unimportant, but the video is funny at one point because the news-reporter goes "favourites Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston, also known as" here I was expecting her to say Loki instead she said "Taylor Swift's boyfriend" lol
I read that apparently Instagram has this bug where if you block someone you follow they don't appear on your following list when you scroll but pop up when you search. So she didn't just unfollow, she blocked...
>>125 He is still showing as her most recent follow when I log in on my iPad. This is all very weird!
>>126 But on my mobile app he isn't showing as one of her follows. Is this just a software glitch?
>>127 On the iPhone app the follows are shown in alphabetical order and I can see him.
Forget TS. The most important and very telling is that almost none of the people he's followed is following him back. Only Mark Ruffalo followed him immediately. Robert DJ posted the infamous photo about Tom but did not follow him back. He only did it when he realised the Media was making a big deal of his post. Chris Hemsworth only started following him a couple of days ago (probably because he harassed him during shootings).
>>129 That's what I'm thinking. Pulling childish social media stunts to get attention.
>>132 I'd give her a pass. She was 17, 18 years old when a lot of this was written. All I can say is that I am very glad that social media didn't exist when I was that age. I found a few of my old diaries from 6th form (last 2 years at high school) and they were HILARIOUS. But I am very glad all that stuff I wrote wasn't recorded electronically, to be rediscovered later.
>>133 I shared it because of this part "A lot of the time, superstars have huge entourages around them and its really intimidating and weird. But Rihanna had one, maybe two people with her. It was so cool to see that."
>>130 Celebitchy poster: But NONE of this has affected his work or who he is. Producers, directors, casting agents, fellow actors and his REAL FANS still love him and recognize that he is the greatest human being and actor ever. Come over to the veranda for some cake.
>>135 Oh yes. Our favourite deluded CB stan.
One reason they might not be following him is that his IG account is crap. 2 pictures?
>>136 Or they don't want to be subjected to the eventual(?) Tayto pics. Celebs have gag reflexes too!!
>>133 A friend...yeah, right, TH.
>>133 When the earth returns to its normal axis, TH will find himself on his knees scratching around for scraps of his dignity and career - much like my auntie Mary scrabbling for her anniversary pearls when she broke the string trying to limbo at a cousin's wedding (He'll manage Mary's desperation, but not her grace, level of drunkenness or volume - 'They're real, HELP!').
'Just sellin papers with my mate @twhiddleston #parttimejob #thorragnarok @taikawaititi'
That awkward hug. CHs face has Ryan Reynolds vibes.
>>143 Does look a little frosty to me, but then I'm a girl. Do dudes feel the necessity of taking their hands out of pockets when receiving a hug from a pal?
>>142 This pic would suggest that they're still buds. CH is probably thinking what most of us are: 1) WTF were you thinking? 2) Hope you're enjoying that bed you made and 3) Glad I only had a few stinkers at the box office rather than a disastrous and embarrassing showmance.
>>145 Is it a hug if two men bump chests with their hands in pockets?
One way hugs are so unfulfilling.
I do not know any men who pocket hug.
I do have one female friend (who bears a striking resemblance to TS) who pocket hugs. It's so uncomfortable for everyone involved we all just air kiss her now.
>>147 Before I would've found that cute. Now it's just cringe. Tom in a suit used to be lovely to look at. Not anymore. It's going to be even more cringe at the Emmy's if him and Taylor both go 😒
The black wig used to make TH look super hot (in my view!). Unfortunately this time it really emphasises how much he has aged in the last couple of years.
This photo just popped up on the feed and I couldn't help noticing it looks like his man- date from the other night. It seems to be taken at one of the recent Emmy interviews in LA.
>>151 That's definitely the same guy. It could also be from SDCC - maybe he works for Marvel?
>>152 That's a job for Hiddlesfashion. My swiss cheese memory recalls those brown shoes didn't make it to SDCC.
Perhaps this guy is one of those childhood friends he has hidden away all these years. I'd be dialling a hug in his position.
>>150 Loki does nothing for me, never has, so I'm not squeeing with delight like so many on Twitter and Instagram. Nor am I forgetting.
>>155 Well, he's killing any ladyboner I may have had. There are a lot of photos and video of him on tumblr demonstrating def-con 5 neediness.
I particularly liked this footage of Tom running in terror from all those fans with camera phones: http://nakedhiddles.tumblr.com/post/149318308455/from-shenaesodonnel-instagram
>>156 Not to get all annoying, but DEFCON is a descending scale of alertness. (I hate myself for typing that.) He's always at 5, maybe 4. This appears to be Level 2 (Red, Fast Pace). At this stage, armed forces are expected to engage with the enemy in less than 6 hours. I'm assuming this translates to him being ready to engage with fans at a moment's notice. This is like the Cuban Missile crisis of his career.
Has anyone else seen the new gossip cop article denying the new celebritydirtylaundry article that the Emmys are pressuring TH to bring TS and he is stressed about it. It says that TS is invited by the Emmy people and that she, "very well may attend to support her boyfriend..." They're just trying to bait people. The word "may" attend is the out clause if TH can't get time off. Such a game. I think that the main thing is that TS has no forward momentum in her career right now, and only the Louisiana donation and the "relationship" to drive her narrative. The only authentic fact is that a couple who claim to be in love have no plans to see each other at all for weeks! Btw, people keep circulating that so many of her relationships could have been faked. And if so, who is TH really romancing? Escorts? Fan girls w tongues missing? Luke? So confused. Any thoughts on Emmys or this?
>>158 Good to know! I'd be dead in a crisis otherwise.
"No I said DEFCON 5!! Where are you all???"
>>160 You can always just do what the British normally do in a crisis...call the Americans.
(Runs out of messageboard!)
He's probably going to turn into a one hit wonder who dated Taylor Swift but after the breakup slowly disappeared from Hollywood and now teaches publicity for actors workshops in London.
"now teaches publicity for actors workshops in London."
You're so mean! And I love it!!!!
>>159 I'm trying not to give GC or any other tabloid story about these two clicks. The DM gets my clicks because it has the best comments. But given CG's MO, this means that he is being pressured to bring her, to some extent. She would love this pap stroll, it would be perfect for her, her image and the storyline of their romance. The RC outshines a grey beach in Suffolk, even Rome. We shall see.
Here's a YT page with some videos from yesterday. I can't watch them - I need summaries or gifs - watching him move and talk is still a little cringe inducing.
>>165 I found it so you don't have to.
First, GC says that the original article in the Sun, which suggested that Emmy producers are desperate for a TayTo red carpet appearance, is false. Then it goes on to the CDL article, which says that the producers are actually pressuring TH to bring TS along.
>>166 Well, I didn't see Chris running with a bag of Loki merchandise to distribute to fans so you are correct that TH was extra on purpose. 2012's kind of extra.
>>167 Thanks for this.
"Of course, Swift is invited to the event...." If anyone picks up on this, they'll issue yet another denial and say she got an invite because she is a previous winner. Which may be true but still doesn't negate this crap PR.
TH has posted a selfie comparison of his rapid ageing
This is Tom sprinting to see his fans. SPRINTING.
>>170 No, I was wrong. I think it is Idris Elba.
>>174 You're right, it looks like Idris Elba completely deleted his Instagram account.
>>168 Okay, I just went and read the video title, so he did hand out Loki stuff. Oh, Thomas, you know you're in the shit, don't you? He is the puppy that won't leave your side and licks your leg when he's piddled on the rug and you're cleaning it up.
Allison, not Michael - but comments are already full of snark.
Not that I could be bothered going through them all but I couldn't see one single negative comment on THs IG, let alone any snake emojis.
This led me to compare with Tay Tays.
The one thing they have in common which sets them apart from all other accounts is that their follow list is alphabetical.
That pic TH posted was right on spot, years later history is repeating itself, TH is again counting on Loki (and Marvel) to (re)build his popularity (the numbers of IG follwers is still quite telling, no matter what veranda women say).
>>179 it's tiring to go through IG comments, but I found this
xxmusic1206DON'T POST ANYTHING ABOUT tayyyy 😒😒😒😒
mariamcstOmg taylor is getting some facial hair
mariamcstSo proud of taylor's new gender
>>180 I think that is a scene in the movie. The commentary said "this selfie though, part of the act and we'll have to wait to see it". It's not that clear but it is there.
'Was she starstruck? Female fan faints on the set of Thor: Ragnarok while watching stars Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston film scenes for blockbuster'
.@twhiddleston & @chrishemsworth visiting Lady Cilento Children's Hospital tonight
Best photo yet
>>183,184 too bad, I liked the idea of his being snubbed so much =P (that's a stupid film to be part of a Thor film)
>>185 it's 2012 all over again I'm telling you, with the difference he now has a gf famous and rich enough to sustain his ego while he goes around pretending to be authentic.
>>185 it's like SDCC, he's going to stay in his bubble and continue, blaming people with camera phones and talking about not letting falsehoods affect your life. Like how his gf goes on all the time about how "you're not someone's opinion of you". It's actually pretty revolting how these two use good advice to defend their fakeness and bought and paid for publicity.
>>187 In his defense - twice in two days! I should head over to the veranda - the presence of CH and their costumes (complete with Thor's hammer) makes me think this was Marvel and not TH. Less 'Contrition Tour '16' and more 'Sorry we closed down your CBD.'
>>193 The guitar, after being selected as his favourite companion and shipped around the globe for show, mysteriously disappeared when the promo for ISTL ended and TayTo began.
New tourist slogan: 'Brisbane is for lovers' ...or maybe not.
TS's brother, austinkingsleyswift, just started following TH on twitter. I think that this was done because of the weekend temporary glitch that blocked TH on TS's list. And due to the fact that she hasn't liked any of TH's tweets, but she liked other tweets online. Plus this couple has no plans to see each other for a solid month, even though she is free as a bird...Weirdness. Ready for Emmy voting and VMAS to be over, and for TH's work schedule during the Emmy awards to be revealed. Its an ensemble film, so who knows? The Night Manager and AMC would probably love to have TH on the carpet to promote, but I can't stand the idea of TS using an appearance just promote herself, because she doesn't have a tour, album, or a single, in sight. FYI, not sure she has the stamina to sit in the audience while Jimmy Kimmel reams the two of them about their fauxmance. That would be brutal to sit through for anyone.
>>197 She's got the deposition for the assault charge to deal with, and whatever other legal fallout results from that. She might be consulting with lawyers doing legal maneuvers with respect to the 'Famous' video. She may be working on new music. She may be doing nothing in between the legal activity. She may be seeing a counselor to help deal with everything. Yep, Kimmel will likely take a comedy shot or three if he's not told to avoid it. It's what he's good at.
What the hell do you people do in these threads? Tom Hiddleston can't be that interesting!
>>196 Ha! Go reporters of Oz, ask away!
I really don't see the attractiveness of TH with that wig of greasy black hair.
>>200 Some are grappling to see who has The Most Knowledge of him. Some are talking trash about the people who are grappling to see who has The Most Knoweledge of him. The rest of us have pulled up a camp chair and are eating popcorn.
Oh BTW, the fandom briefly hit DEFCON 1 because a fake nude pap pic hit the airwaves. Turns out it's Tom's head (from a Night Manager filming shot) on Zac Efron's body.
<<193 Don't drink the beverages, they're laced with mind control drugs.
I agree the hospital visit was backed by Marvel for promotion but combined with the meet and greets, this is excessive even by Marvel standards. Could it be Marvel backed contrition (with the blessing of team Tom)? There was that odd meeting in NY followed by an abrupt change of gears.
>>203 I agree! That's what I've been saying! TH's trip to NYC was the game changer for the whole shenanigan! That's why TS (who was spotted that day yelling from her car in Nashville in a traffic jam) immediately boomeranged back on her plane from Nashville to LA, while TH was flying commercial to LA, for the pap walk that occurred that night at Hillstone. She knew that it could be their last romantic pap walk together, period. TH has served the Marvel fans beautifully with his acting skills as Loki, and his appearances at Comic Con, and they loved the free goodies as well. Marvel/Disney probably was always going to do something with the children's hospital, since Tom Holland visited a hospital dressed as Spiderman, Chris Evans and A Mackie visited a Boston hospital, and Johnny Depp came dressed as J Sparrow to the same Australian hospital as CH and TH, already. The event had such a high level of exposure in order to resuscitate TH's brand. The instagram games are just to keep the Swifties fed. And the links between the two of them in articles are part of the contract, end date unknown. >>198 Don't think TS needs therapy. She probably thinks the general public is crazy for not buying her storyboarded romantic BS.
"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor!" (i.e. everyone but the weirdo in the black suit). Unforgettable meeting all the children @ladycilentochildrenshospital. They're the real heroes. #madepossiblebychf #juicedtv #ladycilentochildrenshospital
>>205 I wasn't contradicting you. CH definitely was involved as well. I was just pointing out Marvel/Disney's charity history, as well. No costumes/comic characters could have been used by anyone without Marvel/Disney backing! I love your point!
I don't think this visit has anything to do with Tom. It's got Marvel/ Disney usual fingerprints all over it. They've always been big on charity and they send their actors to children's hospitals for movie promotions all the time. Loki and Thor are Marvel properties. They wouldn't be swayed that easily by Tom because he wants some good press. That would mean he's pushing his employer to help him with his own image and Marvel isn't going to arrange this at one actor's behest. This hospital itself is a big celebrity draw so based on Marvel/ Disney's history, I believe this was their idea to draw attention to their movie as well as to give back to the city since they are using the country's funds, and Chris is beloved in his country so it makes sense for him to give back. Its focused on Thor, not Loki. If it was at Tom's request, we'd see him more front and center than Chris.
>>207 Marvel certainly gave the visit their stamp of approval. I was suggesting it was orchestrated by CH to raise awareness for his foundation which TH pointed out in his IG comments: #madepossiblebychf
>>208 Yep, definitely a win for all. To be honest, I'm really glad to see Chris Hemsworth get more recognition as Thor this time around. The past promos had centered too much around Tom and Loki before, making it seem like Loki was the main character and not Thor. The big lug doesn't get enough love sometimes.
Help Syrian children and decorate your dartboard!
>>211 Thank you for this article! OMG! Does this mean that Team Tom had the smarts to negotiate an out clause where he looks normal, and TS looks clingy? This way, she can still right breakup song about regrets, while he gets off without looking cruel or like a user!? Wow! Wow!
>>211 There is no gossip cop denial yet! We'll have to watch...
Enjoying the caption on his pic!
Sadly it is Allisn not Michael K (Anon., is he with you?). But a few gems nevertheless: http://dlisted.com/2016/08/24/breaking-theres-been-trouble-in-taylor-swift-and-tom-hiddlestons-perfect-couple-paradise/
>>214 Grrrrrrr. Ugh. Blurgh. Hmmm. Ummm.
The wind down or the fake wind down. After all these are two stunting, attention-seeking PRmancers we're talking about. Could be the wind down, could be the lead in to "they reunite halfway in HI (plenty of beaches and we all know how they love beaches) to renew their 'love' and 'relationship.'"
What is going on in CB land with this news? How is the veranda lady handling it?
>>217 Right there with you. I don't know if this is a real wind down or a "gotcha! happy reunion at the Emmy's" These two enjoy playing it up with the tabloid games so I'm not holding my breath for a breakup wind down.
>>218 CB usually gets things the next day, so we won't know till tomorrow.
>>220 Will the veranda BURN to the ground or will she try to put it out with brownies?
>>219 These kids, or their PR teams, are pretty manipulative. However, it would have been very easy for Tree and TS to construct some sort of BS Gossip Cop denial of trouble in paradise, if that was their prerogative. Therefore, I'm assuming that leaked info of a supposed fight and their conflicting schedules, are faux fact-lets, and are part of their faux-lationship narrative arch. Esp. since TS sells to US weekly, People, and Gossip Cop. If TH wants to go to the Emmys solo, and avoid all Swift questions on the red carpet, he has to get out over the next week-ish or two weeks, to give enough time for the story to die down. TH worked like a dog over the past two years, he has a rapacious sense of ambition, and I think he wants his career to have its place in the sun. He wants to work the Emmys and get a brilliantly written script with a leading part for himself. Of course, I could be wrong : )
>>223 It's her own plant, she's not going to use Gossip Cop to deny her own plant. There's a lot of magazines reporting on this "argument" now though. And the way the language is tilted in her favor, I'm guessing it's more from her team than a joint team effort, either to play up her victim act again "oh poor me my boyfriend is neglecting me for his work boo hoo whyyy" OR both Tom and Taylor are trying to make people think they're on their way to a breakup only to appear together at the Emmy's and get optimum publicity. She could also be trying to piggy back on his current publicity so that she can remind the public again that it's HER boyfriend.
Really Taylor?! CH went to the children's hospital again by himself this weekend, w/o TH, just to visit more kids for his charity by himself. And the Dailymail even shoehorned the old pics of TS visiting the same hospital into CH's article!! Either the Dailymail or Tree is just plain greedy! It's about CH's foundation, and the children! Not TS's image repair! Golly.
Apparently Todrick Hall, a broadway performer from the Color Purple and Kinky Boots, is a friend of TS. Todrick and TS were hanging out all day today, and Todrick just liked a pic of TH on instagram. The Swifties are just hanging onto the twitter follows by Austin Swift, and the instagram likes by TS's friends to hold this relationship together. It's the most immature thing I've ever heard of. It's like high school. Relationships aren't built or maintained online by one's besties of the moment!
>>226 Her brother isn't following Tom on Twitter. I checked. That little screenshot of Austin following Tom is from Instagram.
Taylor's demographic is all about social media, that's why she lives through it so much and uses tabloids like her personal Facebook status, updating the world on what she's upto and when. Her fans are still obnoxious though. Just like how Tom's stans and that CB veranda lady are obnoxious.
That's true, neither Austin nor Tom are following eachother. Swifties stirring up rumors again..
The plaid shirt is back and Tom has a giant zit on his chin, but otherwise no news. PS I think his hair looks better now it is getting longer again.
>>229 Strewth that's a big one
I'm posting this with a cringe warning:
More crowd cringe. I think he's started on the hair plugs- the hairline, despite being alarming, looks fake.
The painful smile of a man on his 20th hour of a strong acid trip. I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
Still no GC denial of the fight story. Which means, I think, that it was a plant. Even if is denied now, they haven't rushed into print with it, so they wanted for some reason for it to gain traction.
The snark from dailymail is hysterical: "Taylor, 26, made sure to appear as if she didn't have a care in the world as she headed to dinner with BFF and squad member Todrick Hall."
Its as if everyone is aware that her life is a reality tv show.
Presented without comment (which is hard for me!):
>>233 I just saw the original UsWeekly story and it does seem like a plant, I'll agree, but a strangely positive one.
(My No Clicks for Famewhores policy) Here it:
>>237 The US Weekly story must have an agenda. The Star version of the fight story was very unflattering to TS, since it mentioned TH buyer's remorse and how TS had hurt his career and his image. Maybe the US Weekly article not just for more press, but also to trump Star magazine's perpective. But the lack of a Gossip Cop denial of the more negative comments about TS by Star is evidence that they want us to start questioning their romance. Tree has been defending their relationship vigorously through Gossip Cop, never letting us assume that their rapport is anything but perfect. Instagram follows and dinner pap nights in NYC are just to distract us from the main issue, that two millionaires who claim to be in love/lust, and have access to trains, planes and automobiles have no intention of seeing each other anytime soon. Bring on the VMAs and the end of Emmy voting, so the contract can end, and the breakup can follow over the next few weeks.
>>237 Your last sentence is how I interpret it. The relationship has to be "legitimate" because who cares about the breakup of a fake relationship? However, it also has a shelf life, and they want to get that out there (cf previous comment about how their lurve may not last forever). So they sow the seed of "we really loved each other but..."
Taylor Swift, Weeknd to perform at 2016 United States Grand Prix in October. I predict that TS will have a brand new single for this concert, a duet featuring the Weeknd. No evidence of this, just a feeling. A song with their fan groups would have great crossover appeal, and widen her audience.
>>238 Tom Hiddleston is not a millionaire. Far from that. That's why he sold himself to Taylor Swift.
My goodness! The dailymail just published an entire article on TSs alleged boob job operation, using her gym pics from today. They have too little time on their hands, and very little love for TS...Gossip Cop denial in 3, 2, 1...
For the zit on his chin which looks like he popped it!! His eyes look red...probably still crying himself to sleep.
DM skirts past my No Clicks for Famewhores rule. The comments are too good.
Oh lawdy....'Including Tom, she now has a total of three fake bo0bs.'
The IG news of the day is that TH followed The Rock.
In light of his excessive namedropping of the Fast and Furious series and his unsubtle summer is this his replacement job for Bond?
Also, there's another strange glitch. Looking at his 18 followers, only The Rock is visible- the other 17 have vanished.
It's probably just another phone glitch. Two glitches only on his account in one week is alarming.
>>244 I guess now both Taylor and Tom have buyers remorse :)
>>247 I'm guessing this weird glitch that only seems to be happening on Tom and Taylor's IG is because of that snake removing tool. A quick patch like that would still be buggy and this bug messes with their following/ follower count perhaps.
>>243 That zit was volcanic. I wouldn't have been able to resist. I again think his hair looks nice. Longer and not being blow dried straight. It is much better on him.
>>244 Looking at the side on pics I am thinking that the second boob job was very recent. Even at the Met Gala they look a lot smaller. What is the recovery time on a boob job? Could you have one in (say) mid May and be ready to get jiggly with a man in mid June? Would they not be terribly sore?
"Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian VMAs Showdown NOT Happening, Despite Report"
GossipcCop denies that TS will be in a showdown or a reconciliation with KK or KW at the VMAs, since she is not scheduled to attend the award show. Who wants to bet she will do something photo worthy instead of going the VMAS to draw attention to herself? : ) ALSO, no denial of the fight with TH.
If Tom is telling the truth here, he's not going to the Emmys.
>>244 she could have gotten those saline implant with a port that allows the doc to inject more after the operation in office with nothing more than a local for discomfort. Easy to customize the size. I suppose they can remove saline too.
>>252 She's probably fuming that her pretend boyfriend isn't available for a pap stroll or rock based, off target kissing session! I predict that she'll be papped trying on a wedding dress. She's in NYC looking for a bridal store with a huge picture window.
>>253 But he tells lies. Next it will be, 'I had to travel to LA to buy more Marvel posters because I'd given them all away.'
>>253 I don't believe him. He's just buttering them up and then he'll show up in LA for the Emmy's while her jet ends up en route there too, and ugh proceed with desperate stunting. He's done this twice now. Dunno why he even says all that when he can just stay quiet.
Well someone just hacked Tom's IG. Let's see how long it takes for him to get it back.
>>258 ouch, if he is a creature of habits when it comes to passwords and emails too, this hack might lead to a leak.
His IG has been glitching all week and I suspect, as does New Anon, that it's a symptom of the new IG negative cleansing tool.
This does look like a proper hack rather than a glitch though.
>>259 I second the hope of an email leak. I'd love to see his emails to TS and to Luke, his real love. Maybe we will see the relationship contract documents!!
>>256 He will tell this lie while lighting up a cigarette.
As far as hacking goes, it was below average. I heard his Facebook page was also hacked but didn't see it myself. He's making light of his IG hack in his IG story.
>>264 Looks like he deleted it. I'm sure if you search his tag, you'll see screenshots of it. His story was basically a screenshot of Elite Daily saying Tom got hacked or was it Tom trying to figure out how to use snapchat on there.
>>265 I think also stories haven't been rolled out yet to us plebs in the UK. I can't create or view a story. TH obviously has special access along with the snake remover (can this plug in also be used in his private life?!!)
What did the hackers do? Did they post anything? How do you know it was hacked?
Ignore my question. It's here:
And we have the very first dailymail article in gosh knows how long, without a single pic TH, or the happy couple. Its just about TS! And the phase down continues, I guess.
Time to Shake It Off! Taylor Swift heads to dance class in racy cut-out leggings after boob job rumours and claims of row with Tom Hiddleston
Time to Shake It Off! Taylor Swift heads to dance class in racy cut-out leggings after boob job rumours and claims of row with Tom Hiddleston
Gossip Cop article denying that TH was flirting w 2 girls on set during filming. Unfortunately, for Tree, the bloggers were talking about another situation where TH seemed to be eyeballing this woman up and down. I knew that TS's PR trolled the blogs! Anyway, Gossip Cop denies anything that makes TS look bad. TH losing interest or cheating on TS would not be positive for image:
>>271 Lol okay THAT is really going out of the way to debunk a rumor that wasn't even really going around. That Star story, no one was paying attention to it til Gossip Cop brought it up. Someone has a really think skin. Or a very clear "I'm the victims in this narrative" plan laid out.
It is interesting in the comments, Gossip Cop deleted the video a commenter posted of Tom being flirty with a reporter lol
>>254 'she could have gotten those saline implant with a port...' Oh good Lord. That sounds awful.
>>258 Oh, oh. I was wondering why there were so many posts on a Friday! It's not like hacking a phone, is it. They could only have access to some basic info and then the pics he's already posted. Am I wrong?
>>274 His hack was a total let down and anticlimactic. Much like his relationship with Swift. Shocked us all in the beginning and afterwards it was like trying to get people excited over which shade of beige pops out more. Leslie Jones suffered a serious hack and it's actually newsworthy. Tom's hacked and commented "hi my love" to Taylor and advertised their and their friends snapchat.
>>275 That's too much thinking for a slightly air-conditioned apartment!! To me, the best course of action - which we've always done 'round these parts - is to laugh at him, them and this situation (and all future ri-donk-u-lus situations).
Someone did a mock up of one of the outfits Kanye could wear at the VMAs.
If there is a God, KW WILL wear this. Brisbane has been very good to TH, but I fear that adoration has swallowed up the lesson. This outfit could be a much-needed lesson.
>>27 Pity we Londoners - hotter than Miami this week and almost no British homes are air conditioned.
>>279 Anon - are fans helping, or is it humid too?
>>279 What's the temp? And is it humid? I always question a Londoner's concept of 'hot.' I remember it once got up to 85/30 degrees and people were fainting on the tube from heat stroke. And there was no humidity!
I'd just moved from New Jersey - 90s in the summers, 100% humidity, where I'd had no A/C in my dinky graduate student apartment - and I was watching people melt into puddles when it got to 85 degrees. As a new arrival, all I could think was, I can't believe you people managed to burn our capital city!
Below is a link to a Marvel leaks thread. Who knows if any of this is true, but if it is then there are MAJOR SPOILERS, so proceed at your own risk.
Doing a screen search for Loki will allow you to get to the heart of TH matters.
BTW, TS flew back to Nashville today in her main jet at 12:52pm.
Dailymail article about TH's Instagram hacking, today. No pics of TS at all. Only TS and CH.
Should have called The SITE Manager: Tom Hiddleston's Instagram account is hacked... just two weeks after he signed up
Gossip Cop and Tree Paine actually took time to deny the rumor that TS is hooking up with openly gay Broadway actor Todrick Hall after their dinner this week in NYC! So silly!
"Taylor Swift and Todrick Hall are NOT hooking up, despite a sensational report that implies their friendly hangout this week may have included some inappropriate behavior. Gossip Cop can bust the ridiculous story."
More from James Ivory about his "long delayed" Richard II. "Ivory's choice for Richard is Tom Hiddleston, an English actor who's best known for such films as "The Avengers," the ongoing "Thor" series and "I Saw the Light," a recent biography about Hank Williams. Ivory hopes to lure Damien Lewis, best known for television's "Homeland" series, as Bolingbroke. Depending on Hiddleston's schedule, filming could begin next year."
See also this collage posted by Vin Diesel - the cast of Infinity Wars including TH:
>>288 Is that an official Marvel collage or just something VD - a man not known for his thinking - thinks is official? Because several of those actors from AoS have never passed over into the cinematic universe. And the Coulson character is actually dead in the cine universe. Also Marvel usually likes to keep people guessing rather than spill beans.
>>290 Heaven knows. It did seem to originate from VD though. It would explain TH's apparent lack of projects, which I have found surprising given his crazy schedule since October 2014 and Coriolanus, which showed no sign of letting up.
Any predictions on if Taytay will throw out any flares to distract from Kanye and the VMAs? And what those flares will be?
Given that Tayto seems to have sprung into existence to distract from KK and KW, I'm expecting something but don't know what.
>>289,290 The Russo brothers have already announced that only the first film will be called Infinity War while the second will have a different title, so not only I doubt that Marvel would send out a collage to post online, I very much doubt Marvel would send out a collage with incorrect information.
>>294 Dailymail article about Taylor Swift released from jury duty on Nashville rape case after she tells judge she is already involved in a sexual assault case in Colorado. No mention at all of Hiddleston. Brilliant how the TS PR team uses the good Samaritan jury duty service to deflect from the sordidness of her pending sexual assault case, in which the DJ said that she lied about the assault. And it distinguishes TS girl next door image from those of all of the MTV video award attendees. Wow.
>>294 Looks like she just showed up for her summons, took a few pics, then got excused by the judge and left. I've never heard of her showin up for her summons before so this whole thing smacks of a pap stroll but an "organic" one.
>>295 Lol just posted about it too. I'm the same opinion as you. She deliberately went to make a show about her upcoming deliberation. You can easily postpone your summons for later and she's never answered a summons before. That's why it smacks of PR to me.
>>293 I did wonder if Marvel would send out a collage as a sort of casting announcement; and Vin Diesel is a Class A moron.
>>293 It could be the case that his part is small without any reference to Thor III box office. Rumor is that IWs will have all the main Avengers and Civil War peeps AND cameos from other Marvel characters. There won't be a lot of spare room for anyone.
>>294 I doubt even she could manipulate that into existence but she might take advantage. Is there an accompanying UsWeekly article? "'I skipped the VMAs to do my civic duty!' says patriot Taylor Swift" or 'Tom Hiddleston just loves Taylor's sense of patriotic duty.'
>>297 >>295 So organic- some Swifties caught a glimpse of Tree lurking in the corridors, the timing is suspect as hell (VMAs avoidance/ impending assault case) and her no makeup (but actually packed on so thick you'd need to chisel it off) makeup screams so natural and organic you'd think she was just like you and me.
>>300 When I went for jury duty, I too took my PR person, had my hair and make-up professionally done and took selfies with the lawyers and judge...just normal like!
This is going to sound horrible but I'm just not believing her jury duty trick. This is playing victim on a whole different level. You're not allowed to use cameras in the courtroom. At least here in California you're not. The bailiff will take your phone away. The fact that ppl were allowed to take pics of her with other summoned jurors in the background...Sorry but the case being a rape one and her having her sexual assault deposition coming up, life's coincidences are not this rare and perfectly timed.
>>301 The FUCK. The Actual FUCK.
I'm not going to click on it, but if 'civic duty' or TH are mentioned, it will just confirm that TS is a PR construction and nothing else.
>>302 Same! I also couldn't be impartial because I had just murdered someone
>>304 The article opens with a bleeding heart explanation of her overlapping sexual assault case, then it mentions her CIVIC DUTY is the reason she skipped the VMAs (which she didn't want to go to anyway) and finally glosses over the feud with Kimye.
TH was excluded from this narrative.
>>306 But how will we know how TH feels about TS and her civic duty if Tree Pa...I mean UsWeekly doesn't tell us? Was she nervous about court? Did he calm her nerves by playing a Hank Williams song via FaceTime?
How much you want to bet this case involved a taped confession but TS was dismissed because she just doesn't think taped evidence is at all indicative of reality or the truth? Right, Tay? (Wink, wink)
Even Lainey doesn't believe the hype:
>>308 This is telling as Lainey seems desperate to be a squad member and thus has rolled herself up tightly in a gossip sense in order to squeeze between TS's newly enhanced butt cheeks for a kiss. She doesn't often refer to the man behind the curtain in TS's world.
When I posted the jury service tweet in response to your question about her casting some shade on the VMAs, I was joking. Except it turns out not to be a joke.
why are you so interested in TH?
(genuinely interested, not a troll)
>>311 Personally, I'm not interested in Tom Hiddleston, but Tim Hoddleston...he could get it all day long.
I used to be interested because he seemed an intelligent, thoughtful and attractive actor (could still be - the jury's out). Now I love the hot mess he and his life have become. Admiration turned schadenfreude.
>>308 NY Magazine's funny analysis of how the Swift PR machine organized jury duty, and much of TS's presentational life to the public. "How Convenient That Taylor Swift Had ‘Jury Duty’ the Morning After Kanye Called Her Out at the VMAs."
>>314 NY Mag was the publication that first suggested the RI rock pics were an attempt to deflect from KK's GQ interview. They are having none of it.
Awful possibility that TH actually wrote some of the wooden dialogue in TNM:
>>316 I'm surprised he didn't humble brag about this. Maybe he thought it'd be overkill on top of the summer tour.
Rumor is going around among the Swifties that Taylor is heading out to Australia some time this week to spend the weekend with Tom. After today's unethical jury debacle, their shameless pap stroll will be equally gutsy lol
>>317 That rumor originated on the same blog as last month's rumor that Tom was flying to RI for a secret wedding. Of course an Oz trip could happen, but as of now it has no basis in fact.
I wonder though, now that Emmy voting has officially ended, what do we think is next on the TayTo agenda? They haven't been seen together in a month. Will they continue to keep things low-key? Will they resume the previous level of shameless stunting? Will they break up?
>>318 The swifties are bound to say she is off to Australia because if she isn't then what do we make of the relationship?
I am not so sure. TH has been revelling in the Loki-specific fan adoration. He looked like a man restored. Will he want to revert to ridiculous TayTo stunting where he is an accessory just like her handbag? My guess is he will want to remain a snake-free zone unless and until he decides to go to LA for the Emmys. If he reads in the tea leaves that he won't win, he may not even go to that.
These Swifties predicted she would fly to Oz last weekend so failing that they are now clutching their pearls and secretly wondering if its time to ship TS with another man.
I think her court case is pending for which she has to make an appearance. Surely the latest public civic duty stunt was a precursor of more fun times in court in the near future.
>>320 I read she had a jury service date in December last year, so she would have had to have given a second date when she deferred that one, and showed up for it. To that extent - not gaming the system.
However I am sure these award show go in the diary months in advance. So it does rather suggest that she gave this date because even in December she never intended to show up at the VMAs (probably at that time because she knew she had no video worth submitting and wasn't going to win, and not because of the Kanye stuff).
Swifties have the fantasies of 10-years-olds and the memories of goldfish. They've predicted at least 3-4 engagement parties (I remember the screen caps from TOD) and many reunions in RI and Oz. When they don't happen, swifties go on undeterred without acknowledging that they were wrong OR putting the brakes on their airy fairy dreams for their queen.
>>322 Oh confusion. She has far too many legalities going on at once! I was referring to her upcoming harassment case with the dj.
From what I understand she was called for jury duty in December while on tour. She had a year to reschedule to a date of her choice. As a celebrity I imagine she would have legitimate reasons for exemption yet she chose to make an appearance. The morning after the VMAs. On an assault case just prior to tackling her own assault case.
>>317 He did! I don't remember the interview now (my brain is slowly but inexorably deleting all things hiddles), but there was at least one where he talked about the long nights after filming, spent discussing how to write a scene or something.
>>322 Hater! Giving two, thoughtful, evidence-based possibilities for her actions! She didn't go to the VMAs because she's too good for them (unless she's winning them) and she went to jury service on this date because of the law and America. She loves both. You all are so totes jelly.
>>327 Haha. That's actually what my sister used to call the original Law and Order which I loved and would watch whenever it was on.
'A Few Good Selfies'
>>328 The Normal People versus TA Swift
The Bad Liar (bit of a stretch from the Good Wife, but hey!)
Taylor's big Trump supporters besties are following Tom now. Isn't he on record speaking against Trump? If he follows them back lol how's that going to look?
>>329 Ha. Normal People or truth - either works as natural enemies of Tay.
>>330 I don't know enough about SM etiquette and 'language' to know what this all means, and I don't care. But I'm sure the swifties are already writing that this means the wife will be matron of honor and the husband will be TH's best man (Joey will be busy...not existing or being a figment of TH's imagination) at The Taynuptials - sponsored by Apple, UsWeekly, JBrand Denim and Etro, no photographer needed because 'everyone has a phone with a camera.'
>>332 Most likely. They're currently planning their Emmy debut and what dress Taylor will wear followed by what the two will do this weekend in Australia when they are reunited. I'm not sure about social media etiquette a 100% either, I just know it's significant when one of Taylor's besties or squad follows one of her bfs.
>>334 it's more romantic for her to go to Oz via Europe, obvs. She'll stop off to see TH's parents to ask for permission to marry him. She's a feminist after all.
12 Angry Weeks...though they were more pathetic than angry.
>>334 LOL! I'm surprised they're not using the privately chartered jet theory because Taylor obviously loves her privacy and wants to keep the reunion quiet and private
Oh I have some!
Dailymail article about C Hemsworth and the Thor director,Taika Waititi, out at dinner with of gang of friends at Koi in Broadbeach. TH is not at dinner with them. Smart cookie. TH is being more discreet. As long as he is undercover and there are no new pics of him for the press, he press can't "update the file" on his alleged personal life.
>>337 Could be he was told to stay away, considering wherever Tom goes, Swift chatter follows and overshadows everything. Marvel needs as much attention on Thor as possible since it's the weakest out of all the Avengers movies but also because Thor3 is setting the stage for the last Avengers.
>>337 Look again at the last pic on the left hand side. That's Olly sitting at another table and a TH- looking hairdo sitting next to him. Quite unverifiable but maybe that's how he managed to stay out of the rags
>>335 Imagine the staged but natural photoshoot that would ensue with mama Hiddles who has proven she has no shame stunting for her son. It would be glorious.
>>339 Good eye! The top of the head does look like his. How was he able to get past all those phones with cameras this time?
Tom's IMDB board is all filled with the worse stanning and bullying than the tumblr Swifties, Berlinale and Obnoxiously Intelligent one. They are sharing the hospital girlfriend story and believing every word of it. Has the IMDB board always been that way? Last time I checked that board was during OLLA and I don't remember it being that stann-y.
>>344 Last time I checked was early in the summer, and they were all arguing about whether or not Tom is gay.
I think that TS's main jet flew from NJ today at 2:22. It already landed, since its no longer trackable, so not LA. Maybe RI for either TS or her brother/family? No more relationship stunts, please. I wonder if TH's statement about not coming back to the US before the end of October was true. He as a good pretty good poker face, at times.
New dailymail article on TS. Recap of jury duty, characterization of TS as the victim in her groping case, and pic of C Harris in his undies showing off. No mention of TH at all.
Taylor Swift flashes side glance in NYC while looking cute in khaki romper after ex Calvin Harris flaunted his naked chest on Instagram
Model Jaime King just posted on Instagram that after her young son had heart surgery, TS not only came and held him in the hospital, but TS also donated a large donation to Ceddars-Sinai in her son's name to support Congenital Heart Surgery. Wow. TS is very generous. First the elephants, then Louisiana, then the food bank of Louisiana, now Cedars-Sinai. Impressive.
>>339 Not at the 'cool table' with the star and director. Poor TH, the Met Gala was so long ago, wasn't it? Her awful posture has rubbed off on him, or is scoliosis contagious?
>>346 I don't know if he'll go to the Emmys and I don't know if she'll be there. My gut says no to both, but my gut currently belongs to a small human and he's not at all interested in TH, so I'm not relying on my intuition too much these days. If he does go, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his statement about not leaving QLD anytime soon. He probably thinks going back for a day or two for an awards show doesn't count as it's only for a few days and he's coming right back. We should now expect these types of hazy statements from him.
>>349 I think the interviewer in Oz tweeted that TH just kept the same smile on his face when asked about TS visiting, when he wouldn't confirm or deny anything. Swifties are divided. Some think TS will visit. Others know now that TH, regardless of what TS's plans are, would never ever want to create a frenzied headline in the media. So he's just keeping his head down by not giving anything away. It's been about 2 weeks since his return from the alleged RI trip, and people are getting antsy.
>>348 No one would say that she doesn't act in an incredibly kind, thoughtful and generous manner. The result of her actions is not being questioned and shouldn't be. A donation by any other name (PR maneuver) would still be a donation that does good. I think we - and others - question the reasons behind her actions or the added incentives she personally gets from them. And we of course always question the very public nature of these acts.
>>349 He probably gave one of his vague "I can't speak for her" answers, and they interpreted his non-committal response as something more than it was.
>>353 That is my favorite photo of Tom. He should use it as his profile picture on social media.
>>354 Truly frightening grimace-smile.
Whatever, I dislike it. LIke there's a 'kill them now kill them now' command behind the eyes.
>>355 It would be my reaction to seeing Swifties en masse.
There's this mild hater-ade from Elite Daily writtten by a self-proclaimed Swiftie (if she is, she's kidding herself, read it).
>>320 The TS main jet flew again, yesterday morning at 10:35am. Did anyone see where it went? Are the Swifties still hoping for an Aussie reunion?
I love this board and love all of you. But two celebrities' privacy has nothing to do with us. Their business is theirs. Time will tell. If you feel uncomfortable about their PR stunts, just ignore them. Just stay away from every fucking gossip site and do something different. If you ignore them, their stunts won't have any meaning.
>>358 I didn't see where it went. I'm sure if it went in the direction of Oz, the Swifties will let us know. Their fantasies must be fed.
>>359 Advice and love are always welcome on this board. But the privacy argument isn't going to fly around these parts. I'm not in the mood for an essay; it's a Friday. But given the past two months it should be obvious that these two and their fans can't play the Greta Garbo card. Privacy isn't a tap to be turned off and on. It's either sacred and protected or it's not.
>>359 I think the privacy ship sailed, caught fire and then sank to the bottom of the ocean with all hands on board.
>>362 >>358 Here here, and what everyone aside from the person who has no name said. If you love this board then you should know better than to 'advise' us on their privacy. We are the most insignificant board with so few contributors it's laughable that anything we say would have any meaning on their decisions or movements. Let us scorn their stunts in peace.
https://twitter . com/twhiddleston/status/771647072932012032
>>365 As if we needed further proof that he wasn't skilled at charades.
Mr Hiddleston reads from John le Carrés' "The Night Manager"
>>367 This has been online for a while but I didn't bother watching it. I used to love watching videos of him but now I can't stand seeing his face.
Curing my hangover with terrible TS
>>361>>362 Hi all! Thank you for being protective regarding the TS jet tracking. If anyone is actually concerned about TS, all planes in the air can be tracked, in general. And as we know, TS can easily turn off the plane logging system such that we don't the dates or times of her flights. TS does this sometimes when she loans planes to friends or family. But usually TS keeps it on so her fans have a personal connection to what she's up to. It's a game TS plays. Like when TH was allegedly in RI, she kept the flight logger on so we could see that the plane went from LA to RI and back, even though the meta data on TH's paparazzi "return to LA" pics indicated that TH was never there. FYI, dailymail catch up article on Calvin H. with one pic of TS and TH.'He doesn't need anybody': John Newman claims his 'strong' minded pal Calvin Harris is doing well since his split from Taylor Swift.
Hysterical skit with TS and TH as puppets, kissing and posing for the carefully placed paparazzi, from an ITV program called the Newzoids! They are both wearing heart tank tops, and TH's bare bum is hanging out like it was in the Night Manager. Wow. Ouch.
>>371 Puppet parody = I guess this means he's officially made it.
It appears the breakup narrative is continuing as planned.
"As Radar reported, after a recent interview Hiddleston sparked rumors over his need for more “space.”
“Tom can’t deal with being a laughing stock and has told Taylor he’s done unless there’s a 360-degree change on her part,” an insider told Radar.
No Taylor tunes in Tom's Top Ten: British actor shakes off his girlfriend's tracks in favour of the Rolling Stones and Hot Chocolate
By Ross Parker For The Daily Mail
Mirror Celeb @MirrorCeleb · 2h2 hours ago
Honeymoon period over for Tom Hiddleston and Taylor Swift as couple enter 'crisis mode' - http://bit.ly/2c4NU5o
I feel somehow deprived that I've never been in a relationship that's had a 'crisis mode.' I further feel that there's a time delay is news of said 'crisis mode.' I would have said 'crisis mode' was when they had to fly to the UK and pap stroll with the Family Hiddleston in order to legitimize a relationship that no one with a fully functioning brain believed in.
Ouch. Wonder if Gossip Cop will deny any of this. How long will this break up narrative continue? Why would TH want this to be the talk instead of his Emmy nom? Why didn't his team think of this before? Odd...
>>382 All of these copycats are coming hot off the heels of the Radar article with little to some embellishment. The question isn't did a birdy make the rounds to all of these outlets; it didn't. The question is did a bird whisper to Radar and to what purpose (break-up or romance reborn on the RC?).
>>383 It would definitely be bold and brave for them to be on the Emmy red carpet together. Since this couple has been apart for quite a bit, it would force people to ask, "why do you two mainly keep company when there are cameras directly on you?" Also, people are tired of them, since their pics tend to look staged. I don't think the public will buy into this couple unless they marry and have children. Its just been publicized too suddenly, too forcefully, and w/o sincerity.
>>383 Here is the previous HG article from which those quotes are taken - written on 12 July! - saying it was fake and he is in over his head. Looks rather prescient: http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/09/tom-hiddleston-has-had-it-with-taylor-swift/#.V8zQuNr1uT8.email
I just caught the headline that TH is 'sick of being treated like a GLORIFIED ESCORT' and that is all I need to read about this coupling for a while now.
As for the 360 degrees my only suggestion is that perhaps it refers to wanting things to go back to how they were before the rock snog. I know I'd be clicking my heels for that outcome.
The Sun just jumped on board with more end of Hiddleswift clickbait. The Sun first reported their coupling w the rock/RI pics. Maybe they've lost their alleged inside sources, who I think was Tree Paine. Still no Gossip Cop denials.
>>387 It's Labor Day here. Even GC and Tree Paine must get a holiday from their labors! Articles this negative toward TS usually receive the GC treatment so it will be interesting to see what they do. They do seem anti-TS, not?
Happy Labor Day to all those who labor!
>>388 Sadly, I don't think that publicists have Labor Day Off. Dailymail just framed Hiddleston as a user for allegedly inviting TS to the Emmys. The knives from camp Swift are out. Incidentally, TH is up for a TV Choice Award for Best Actor for TNM in the UK, so good luck to him for that.
>>390 Sadly, I still haven't learned to refresh before I post.
'Tom wants their relationship to be public, even asking Taylor to go to the Emmys with him, but Taylor wants to keep her private life private."
>>393 That's some shit, isn't it? LOL
Well, this story does fall right in line with Taylor's typical victim narrative.
Meanwhile over at CB the verandah woman, smelling the end, has finally confessed that she "can't stand" TS....!!
Are we not allowed to post youtube links at CB? I posted the newzoids video but the moderator deleted it.
>>391 All dry and not even that windy. Still the parents-in-law are calling about every two hours to check on me...well, to check on their grandchild and the human incubator that's housing it.
>>390 Ooooo, this could get ugly. Pro-TH followed up by pro-TS. Even if the two teams aren't responsible, they must be sitting there like we are, thinking about if the other team did plant it. And wondering what they should do next.
>>396 Made me retch after 8 seconds. Let me try again after a gin and tonic.
Tom just won the TV Choice Award in the UK for The Night Manager! Hurrah!
The Aussies kill me. This is an Australian entertainment show analysing the alleged TH/TS breakup, and the visual arts team printed "Who Cares" over all of theimages of the couple. Ouch. Plus, there is a brand new video of Hiddleston thanking everyone for his new TV Choice Award for Best Actor for TNM, which was posted as well, and Idris Elba and C Hemsworth are in it together! So funny. Way to take back the narrative, Tom.
Team Hiddleston takes back the narrative with an entirely work-related article about the TV Choice Award win for Best Actor, and the Emmy nomination! No mention of Swift in words or pics. Parabens!
'I loved working on Home and Away': Chris Hemsworth crashes Tom Hiddleston's TV Choice Award acceptance speech on the set of Thor: Ragnarok
>>402 I heart Idris Elba so much! "
Oh man that's really awful [of horrible tacky plastic award]. Hi mum!"
'My mums friend met Tom Hiddleston in Byron bay and mum is literally crying to her iPad. Now I know where I get my weirdness from... 😒'
>>405 Your guess is as good as mine. Reasons that come to mind:
a) he doesn't want her there
b) she hates it there
c) Marvel/ management/ PR advised her to stay away
>>390 Hmmm, it all depends on what's your opinion of TH at this point. Even leaving aside that he was the one who organised a massive pimping out of his family members, he has a habit of going public with his romance of the moment at the beginning.
He did just that with JA and EO. Then, when the feedback or the wants of his partners didn't match his agenda, he acted like nothing was going on, just to have another supposedly private but in reality public get together.
So this year we don't have TIFF but we have Emmys speculation game. if he attends, my money is on both of them showing up and walking the red carpet together.
>>407 I like that analysis, Couch. That makes SF the standout anomaly, in that they were public throughout (as far as we know).
>>403 You can tell how downmarket these awards are based on the RC: soap stars, reality tv stars and D-list celebs like Katie Price. Not to mention that I think the nominations are from readers/subscribers of the magazine and the winners are chosen via online vote.
>>413 I feel blessed that I will bring my child into a Tayto free world.
Amusingly this seems to fit the timeline most people guessed on for the relationship arc. Totes legit true love!
Bloody hell. I am in one sense not at all surprised and in another sense amazed.
This couldn't have been more perfectly timed if it had been a fake realtionship from the get go.
And here is comment from that piece of Tree Paine's toilet paper, Gossip Cop: http://www.gossipcop.com/taylor-swift-split-tom-hiddleston-breakup/
Let's not give them clicks:
I popped over to tumblr to watch it burn. Here's a gem from a crazy super stan: "Congrats, you have ran [sic] another girlfriend off with your attitude, hate and lies."
There you have it. It's All. Our. Fault.
>>417 Wow! That "the relationship may not last" quote in Gossip Cop was quite revealing. I did think that if Tom wanted the possibly of going to the Emmy awards alone, and to not have every question be about TS, he had to get out around now. Wonder if Kimmel will make jokes about the romance? Wonder if TS will announce a new duet single w the Weeknd or a new album to distract from all of this? BTW, yesterday was a pretty ugly day of faux stories in the media. Even if its all for show, calling someone a user is a harsh way to malign someone's character.
>>418 What's going on with Miss Berlinale and Miss Crazy Smart? Or is this quote from one of them!!
They were mocking during the relationship so why shouldn't they be mocked during the break-up.
>>421 crazy smart, the bunnyrabbit are now all saying they're glad it's over. havent' seen a post from berlinale.
In general, all the labeled Haters, Hiddlestunt supporters, and Neutrals are nearly back on one accord, and it's only been about 3 hours since the news dropped.
The basic sentiment is this:
>>423 Amended: berlinale is apparently being switzerland, 'swifties welcome to stay', etc.
Stats Britain twitter account is savage:
100% of Britons aren't looking forward to Taylor Swifts next album.
89% of Britons don't quite believe Tom Hiddleston had a desire to be public with his and Taylor's 'romance'.
Tom Hiddleston has spent the last few hours listening to the Wizard of Oz soundtrack.
POSTING ABOUT ALL THIS IS CATHARTIC!!!!!
>>425 She's also said that anyone who has been "disparaging" towards Tom won't be welcomed "back into the fold." Apparently she's decided she likes the cult mentality of certain Swiftie cliques.
I'm sure there's a collective sigh of relief to never have to dumb down and read Swiftie boards or articles again.
I've been ashamed of my ability to hold my own in conversation with tweens.
>>431 Damn, that is genius! Surely it didn't come from a Swiftie. The poor little things must be tres confused right now. So many speedboat 'ships' riddled with holes careering to the bottom of the ocean.
>>431 Remember that look JA had when she came out of the cafe, having had breakfast with TH back in May after the MetGala.
? I like to think that he told her about the stunt, and that look of shock was her realizing that it was beyond over between them, regardless of the sexual chemistry.
>>435 That article was awesome! >>434 Not to be a total girl about this, but JA wore no makeup and overalls on that lunch meet up TH. She is a lovely looking woman, but that's not really an ensemble you wear to wow a man into falling for you. By contrast, her fashion at Wimbleon, Sherlock, and in Bora Bora was on point. Maybe he told her about the Swift stunt, but I would guess by her fashion choice that he and JA aren't regularly keeping company anymore. Her expression was very blasé.
LOL! That's all I can say. LOL! This whole thing, from beginning to end, has been completely LOL!
>>435 Even the breakup articles are hilarious. Thank you TayTo for making this summer an utterly entertaining one for us.
Interesting article from the Scum which had the original scoop.
>>431Some Swifties are actually conceding that GossipCop hinted about the split with the "may not last" quote, and are they are conceding that the PR people were tipping off the rag magazines about the breakup in advance. Sanity is prevailing,and everyone is slamming TS's new smiling "I'm single' gym pics in NYC as being immature on dailymail! BTW, calling your ex-beau a user is not part of amicable breakup...makes no sense.
LOL, it's the gift that keeps on giving. I can totally see TS dumping him (it was her) just before the Emmys so if he goes he'll have to answer questions about that.
I wonder now if he will go.
>>410 "To those at CB who hold fast to the 'No one will remember his stupid antics' theory"
One of the most illogical thing they write. They keep saying that this helped raising his profile, ergo the story is know to a wide circle of people that now know his name, but at the same time insist that it's all limited to gossip websites and rags.
>>439 She looks liberated hahaha
TH had better watch his back, the split might be called amicable now, but TS might have learned Kim's lessons and, if like ti seems from her favourite outlets she felt used by TH, she might sit on stuff until the time is right to cause damage.
>>419 "I’m going to guess that the name of UsWeekly’s source is Nils Sjoberg, because they say that Taylor dumped Tom." hahaha
Trying to take back the narrative with another UNICEF anecdote:
>>447 Same old, same old. Maybe we'll get a photo of him at a cafè reading a Latin or Greek philosopher.
I love veranda woman hypocrisy, when The Guardian and other British newspapers were dissing TH she refused to acknowledge those articles existed, now that they are dissing only TS, she is the one posting links. But she does NOT care about his love life, not at all!
>>449 They are all so hypocritical - the unbelievably clever tumblr woman is now saying she "never trusted" TS, but just held out from criticising because she lurves TH and respected his choice. I do recall her expressing vitriolic loathing of anyone who was even vaguely critical of TayTo, calling them "haters" etc. But it turns out she was a secret hater all along.
>>450 Ah! Not to mention all the bullying her and her clique did to other tumblr blogs, like ToD. You are right, they are all secret haters and cowards, they always wait until they are sure the gf is an ex to start with the insults, to protect themselves from criticism and protect him, their current narrative is: "see he broke up with her, so obviously he was not ok with the PR games, it's all TS's fault, TH is just so gracious and nice that he went along with her wishes, that spoiled brat with fake boobs"
I've been absent due to life in general and trying to wean myself off the Hiddles-drama, but had to swing by after this latest news. It was my birthday yesterday and I think it was one of the best presents ever!
Thanks all :-) THANKS HIDDLES.
Seriously can't believe the angle her camp are trying to play. I think the fall out is going to be very interesting.
>>442 Maybe what TH wanted was a doubles partner to equally play the fame game with. JA was hoping to be publicly claimed as a gf. And maybe EO, distracted by the her engagement ending, was a bit more emotionally open than usual, even though she is a strong knowledgeable woman who has been in the Hollywood game with her twin sisters longer than TH has. And sadly, silly rabbit TH thought he could partner up with TS. TS has the moxie, the status, the income, and the ambition to try this scheme. But TS always intended to play a master chess match with the world press and her fans, using TH as a pawn to defend herself, the Queen, against the Kimye press. And hence, TS never valued TH's fans or his thespian rep. credibility in her chess match. Hmmm...Calvin continues to be vocal. Upon reflection, TS's relationship with Calvin looks suspicious, given that she was on tour so much and they only hung out for hours at a time, allegedly >>440'I've been through a lot this year': Calvin Harris issues thinly-veiled jibe at ex Taylor Swift while collecting his Solo Artist gong at GQ Awards... as she splits from Tom Hiddleston
>>456 We'll see in the following days if this is her camp or the tabloids trying to make some money by creating drama.
"Taylor Swift is a lot of things but she wasn’t alone in the spectacle. There were two willing participants in the Swoki situation and now that that situation is broken, there are two players trying to outplay each other. So please, please let’s not waste our time blaming just one of them when, as has been super obvious, nobody was being forced by gunpoint, both during the relationship and even as it ended."
>>459 Lainey, who must be desperate to become the "Over 40' or 'Canadian' squad member, is unabashedly Pro-Tay, so she will always divert blame away from TS. But she is certainly correct in saying TH played along...even if his eyes were decidedly hostage-y throughout.
>>460 Is she really? Gosh I had no idea. The only full article I read by her was the one about EO and TH a year ago.
>>461 she's a strange one. She likes to style herself as a serious gossip columnist who doesn't just comment on celeb life but has sources, is an industry insider and is in a position to offer up blind items and scoops. As such, she can't slash and burn like Dlisted but needs to handle with kid gloves. She's not as obviously in the pocket as Gossip Cop, but she'll only dig her teeth into the real villains. And she has her favs; Tay is one.
>>448 Anon's husband can suggest some reading. Maybe a copy of Polybius...placed temptingly in the back seat of a running car. Can you deprogram thirst and the need for attention?
>>463 I thought she was connected to serious media, because she interviewed EO and TH last year at TIFF and I didn't think owners of gossip websites had access to actors at important film festivals.
>>464 I suggest Marcus Aurelius's Meditations, that way he can start the speculation about this mysterious theatre's announcement he is supposed to make while at the same time assuming a cogitating expression.
>>466 I always think his cogitating expression is redolent of constipation.
Interesting piece in the Telegraph. Named publicist has this to say:
"What do the experts think? Mark Borkowski, who runs a PR agency and has written a book on the dark arts of showbiz publicists past, The Fame Formula, avers that even though Hiddleston’s name is now everywhere in the run-up to the Emmy Awards next week (he’s nominated for Lead Actor in a Limited Series of Movie) the episode has done him no favours.
Tom looks much younger, and his hair looks fuller in these brand new Australia pics. I guess he's less stressed out, now.
PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: Discussing your Swift romance? Glum Tom Hiddleston has heart-to-heart with friends as he's seen for first time since Taylor split
>>436 SoSorry - I did not say (or imply) that JA was there to try to win him back. I was only commenting on the blank look on her face in that picture of her leaving.
>>472 I apologize unreservedly for misconstruing your statement. Maybe I was just fascinated and confused about their meetup since it was photographed by paps. I couldn't decide whether they saw each other by chance and decided to catch up? Or whether it was a planned meet up as part of THs TNM and Bond press at the time, as it looked good for him to be seen as a desirable man w a pretty woman? And the fact that JA looked so casually outfitted, and bored or put-out, confused me. Since she works in PR and knows the game, and so I assumed she would just be pleasant for the cameras, no matter what.
I found this on Metro.co.uk. I guess they're on Team Tom, since they called him a gentleman for not tweeting about the breakup, and instead focusing on the Education campaign on twitter.
>>470 But...but...but...only gossip mags and tabloids care about this. Everyone else has already forgotten. This won't affect his career at all. Producers, directors and critics don't care.
(This comment has been brought to you by Celebitchy, in conjunction with the three feet of bullshit covering the floor of the veranda.)
What's up with US Weekly putting out a second exclusive saying Tom and Taylor might give it a second go when he's back in America? It's like they're leaving the door open for an on and off relationship narrative. A game to get maximum coverage when he comes back to US for the Emmy's and they suddenly show up together?
The out of them getting back together is at the end of this video http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/taylor-swift-hits-the-gym-after-tom-hiddleston-split-photo-w438370
>>476 US Weekly is her source. I think that since no one believes the whole Taylor wanted a private relationship angle and thinks that reason is BS since TS's whole life is public, her PR team is trying to back away from TS calling TH a fame seeker, and emphasizing the idea that distance/work was the problem, and that she did care about TH. This is also illogical since she is not working now, and since she has a private plane...
>>478 "They could get back together when Tom is done filming and comes back to the States. It's possible they will see each other and make it work." I saw this exact sentence, almost word for word, on one of the Swiftie Sisters' blogs last night. I think Us and/or TS's PR trolled tumblr for 'source' statements to keep her fans happy.
Either made up, or from Team Tom. Ouch.
Taylor Swift Exclusive: Tom Hiddleston Telling Friends He Pulled the Plug on 'Hiddleswift' |
>>480 Ah, the mysterious 'Corio. producer source' has resurfaced. I don't know enough about HeatStreet to even guess at its legitimacy or whether it is a TH mouthpiece. I'd not even heard about it until the previous article about the relationship being real but a way for TH to relax following the stress of...THE BREXIT.
>>481 I really want it to be true proving that he and Luke can play dirty but as you say that's as likely as Brexit being the cause of the relationship.
Thanks for the sass Bette Midler:
Team Tom is fighting back in the dailymail, and in the Sun, which originally ran the RI pics. Wow. I thought he'd go with gentlemanly silence. Respect. Wonder if this means he's attending the Emmy's solo or with his Mom? Hmm....
Some people are saying that all of these sources are from Taylor, and Tree Paine. They're just spinning any tale to confuse all of us so we have no idea what happened between she and TH. And then when Taylor writes album 6, which fans say she is working on now in her old apartment w her co-writers, she can pick whatever breakup story line she wants. Now I'm thinking that this makes sense, since she probably has control of the breakup narrative in the contract.
>>484 I don't believe this came from Team Tom. Painting him as a commitment-phobe who dumps women after three months because he's bored? Not exactly flattering.
>>487 That's bs, pure and simple. There are leaks and there's tabloids doing what tabloids do. Some people are saying that because poor Hiddleston must be protected and all the blame should fall on TS.
>>489 Not sure if anyone just wants to blame TS. TH and TS were both players in the PR games of this summer, after all. It's just that her brand/public image is so specifically tailored to her fan base, and so financially valuable. If you were entering into a relationship contract, and you had TS's kind of power and sway, why would allow the other party but so much room to help define the breakup narrative? NY Post now claims that TS's new album is imminent, btw.
>>490 There are plenty of people who want to blame TS and only TS; they hang out at CB in the veranda and in some of tumblr's more unsavory corners. For some TH will always be blameless.
If this relationship was to deflect from Kimye's GQ article and then tapes (unbeknownst to TH), TS may have been happy to let TH have some say in the break up just to get him to agree.
Colbert and Corden serve some late night photoshopped scorn
And thank you Corden, I want all articles about TH in the near future to start with a pic of him with that tanktop.
>>492 The TS/BS shirt is pretty wild. BTW, did anyone see this UK piece on the pre-breakup last week? Its a pretty sympathetic piece, maybe from Team Tom, about how his work schedule and TS's private plane/worldwide travel, her desire to speak on the phone w the crazy time differences, and constant high tabloid press interest in their coupledom, was physically exhausting for him. Pretty good angle of spin.
Veranda lady on CB is cracking me up. I love watching her fall apart and act like she's better than everyone else and somehow knows a celebrity really well like he's a best bud lol Her comments on the latest CB Tom post about laughing at others believing tabloid gossip about Tom while she didn't are hilarious. Some stans, I swear.
>>494 someone on tumblr posted that one yesterday. I didn't realize it was published last week.
This one just published by the Guardian talks about the toll of the relationship too: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2016/sep/08/shia-labeouf-daniel-craig-tom-hiddleston-toll-of-the-role-taylor-swift?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_a-lifeandstyle_b-gdnlifeandstyle
>>496 Keep up the good work Guardian.
"Lost in Showbiz has grave reservations about the suitability of Hiddleston for Bond, particularly on the basis of an interview he once gave in which he explained that as an actor, “I can’t turn off my intelligence”. But following his high-profile three-month relationship with Taylor … well, things have merely crystallised. No offence, but I don’t go to the movies to watch my country being covertly defended by someone who’d wear an I Love TS singlet. You might as well give Isis our nuclear codes or make Boris Johnson foreign secretary."
>>497 There were a lot of comments everywhere about whether or not BB would be swayed by The Summer of Fauxlove. The Guardian makes a good argument for.
I think we have confirmation from E! news that Hiddlston will attend the Emmys, and all alone! This is a lovely even-handed treatment of the split, stating that their short coupling was loving but too much too soon. And ending with his attending the Emmys for sure. Wow. Mature. But I don't believe TS is going to fly under the radar going forwards. Her Greenwich Hotel pap Night pics just proved that.
>>499 I wouldn't say this is confirmation that he'll attend the Emmys. The wording is open to interpretation, and frankly I don't think E! would get the scoop on that or have an inside source about who will and won't attend. It's E.
>>501 Tom getting the James Bond gig was so far from my mind that I didn't even think of the possibility that the "Tom hates commitment" story was meant to call Bond to mind.
>>502 For the record, I think that TH has the work ethic and the looks to make an intriguing Bond after Daniel Craig finishes his contract (Gossip Cop already denied that DC got a 150 million dollar offer to continue, btw.) But only if Swift turns up lying down nude and comatose on a bed, and completely coated in gold paint, will this whole coupledom remind me of a Bond film : )
>>502 I vaguely recall discussing with slight derision a tabloids declaration of his 3 month dick alarm just before the summer of Swift as being suggestive that he is a Bond-esque manslut, not a 35yo virgin who romances in books and poetry as his fans were led to believe.
Perhaps this has all gone according to plan (aside from Selena Gomez, THAT wifebeater and all the hand kissing. I don't think Bond hand kisses across tables.
After parting from his so-called girlfriend Taylor Swift, 26, Etonian actor Tom Hiddleston, 35, has also fallen behind rival thespians vying for the role of James Bond. Bookies have reduced Hiddleston’s prospects of succeeding the current 007, Daniel Craig, after Craig was reportedly offered more than £100million to do two more films. Might the Hiddleston-Swift romance be the creation of public relations types? I am advised that Tom can still rely on the support of Luke Windsor, 32, described to me as his ‘friend, publicist and nanny’.
>>505 My goodness. Is this columnist asserting that Luke and Tom are a romantic item, because that would be one of the first times that the mainstream press has tried to imply that to the general public?
2. GossipCop has just verified from Team Tom that he never, ever, ever went ring shopping for TS, nor was he ever planning on proposing over. This faux breakup is becoming as testy and as unpleasant as a real one!
>>507 Eh, I took it like they're pulling out an old chestnut to fill the paragraph. Someone is always implying that, somewhere.
Below: This is the second article (can't remember the first) that said it's waiting for TH to say something directly about his breakup with TS. See the first sentence:
I returned after 2 weeks of travel through the former Yugoslavia. Can somebody tell me what I missed?
My goodness! Now Taylor and Tree Paine are asserting in the UK papers, that the claims that Tom grew tired of her, and that he is a commitment-phobe, are definitely quotes from Team Tom for sure! So she's the self-proclaimed victim who will rise, again. This is just messy...
>>509 OOO the Dalmatian coast and Dubrovnik are my favorite places. I'd much rather hear about your travels.
You haven't missed much. They split but it was as exciting as opening a bottle of flat warm champagne. After endless weeks of ghosting each other they finally admitted it was over and the tabloids are fighting over whodunnit to a collective yawn.
Cogitating expression AND thinking man, Oh Lord!
>>508 Harris stating that he imposed his conditions on her and she accepted them for so long was interesting, clearly TayTo was a circus because TH was ok with it being a circus (which everyone except for CB's nannies knew already), TH could have drawn lines like Harris did but he didn't because he wanted to be a celeb.
Lucky 13 :))))
Apparently, Podrick from GOT on HBO thinks that the new James Bond should be more macho than Hiddleston, b/c Hiddleston couldn't even handle Swift as a bf. Ouch. The men of 2016 are so catty! It reminds me of my high school days.
But seriously, this is why he was never my first choice if they're going to continue to the brutal killer mode they've been in with Daniel Craig, despite some of the bare-hand killing scenes in The Night Manager. He's missing that final layer that says Definitive Bond. He looks too debonair.
>>505 the interesting thing about Eprahim Hardcastle, according to a poster on the latest CB thread, is that he (a pseudonym) publishes a lot of blind items and gossip, much of which is very reliable. What was interesting to me was not the comment about Luke, which I just took to mean what we all know, which is that TH is unaccountably reliant on Luke even though Luke is the most shit publicist ever. The interesting bit is that Mr Hardcastle doesn't think it was a real relationship. He has heard something on the grapevine, I'd guess.
>>518 Or he has eyes like the rest of us!
Actually, I'm not sold on the reliability of Hardcastle. I don't read him religiously but his column catches my eye often enough. He's a bit like us: he's good at reasoning out the not-so-obvious. He's doesn't often mention sources - and he doesn't even just stick to celebs and entertainment: he once wrote about Erdogan and Merkel. I've never seen him post a blind item, so that's strange - maybe I've just always missed them.
From the latest Dlisted thread:
>>520 I couldn't see this either. British people do swear more than Americans, as you will recall, and posh British men often swear a lot. But still rarely the c word. And especially not directly of a woman. So a posh British bloke might say "X was behaving in a really c-ty way today" but not "Y is a c-t."
>>519 Verandah woman is pouring hate down on TS. Nothing we haven't said here (self-obsessed, permanent victim, immature, why does she alway wear that "hidden vibrator"' smile etc). But she has been jumping on anyone who even vaguely criticised EO so it is hilarious seeing her engage in the same behaviour. She has gone a bit nuts. It's like someone turned on a tap. She hasn't even been going on about the mimosas much because she is so focussed on sticking the knife in Swifty.
'She has gone a bit nuts.' HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! This made me laugh out loud for some reason.
Do the real/fake split runs along nanny/sensible fan lines. It's hard to admit your fav is problematic and whored out his family and personal life in a completely fake relationship, and did so all for attention/publicity. It's a crummy thing to do.
>>523 they all are in the "real" camp.
There is one poster on CB called bonzo, who is totally one of us. She has had an eye for his thirsty shenanigans for several years, so she thinks it is all of a piece. Other normal fans think: real(ish) but definitely sucked dry of all PR potential. Some other sensible bod said, celebs don't do normal relationships. For them, the PR benefit is something you just always consider and factor in when choosing someone (like some women date only rich men - they may find and genuinely be in love with a nice guy, but somehow he will always happen to be rich).
USW has had a troublesome and very clever rewrite.
>>526 This screed was TOO LONG for the board.
>>527 Part III:
Still, the pop star — famous for turning failed romances into hit records — knows how to shake off a split. The insider says she has been spending time at her homes in Nashville, New York City and Rhode Island, hanging out with her parents, stockbroker dad Scott and former finance-exec mom Andrea. (She also reported for jury duty and was excused from a rape case August 29.) “She’s doing OK — just living her life and not talking about Tom,” says the insider, adding that, yes, “she’s been writing a bunch.”
>>528 Oh thanks, I gave up on the copying and pasting.
She's really done her research for this rewrite, I'm mildly impressed. Even digging out that oft refuted ancient quote from a Russian source as proof that he's a hopeless romantic. The 'TH family source' stunned by his PDA on the heels of his hidden romance with EO... clever dick, Tree, so clever. Who can argue with that?
>>529 They've basically called him thirstay, which we all called him anyway, they've just circumnavigated Tays thirst in the process.
>>531 Instead of her own thirst, they've played up her unmatched attractiveness and desirability. Men just fall head-over-heels for her, they can't help themselves. They woo her, display their love for her in over-the-top ways, are heartbroken when SHE dumps them and then they immediately start making plans to win her back. She's the perfect woman.
>>532 I'm just so happy to let her go nuts over there in the corner where I can't see her anymore right where she belongs.
>>532 Let's not forget what a sad comment on TH's maturity it is that he spent 2 months with Tay and exhausted our collective supply of tinfoil.
>>528 E news on tv just reported that their age differences, on top of the distance between them, was the reason for the split, and that she realized after talking with him on the phone this week that they are better matched as friends. Now we have listed every excuse under the sun from TH is a user and a fame enthusiast, to he dumped her ruthlessly b/c he was bored, to he desperately wants to woo her back, to they're better off as friends. Also, C Harris just liked Taylor's video at the Tommy Hilfiger fashion show of her singing to This is What You Came Form their song. Drama, drama, drama...and all fake.
>>522 The festival of insults. Funny to watch happen but a measure of their hypocrisy. In the end TS is the same now as she was 3 months ago, but 3 months ago the same people who are insulting her now were saying that TS at 26 had every right to jump from bf to bf and be public with her love life. Because of course you couldn't speak ill of someone TH was dating. The length at which they go to protect him and divert the attention from what HE decided to do is unbelievable.
We have this article from CraveOnline:
>>538 Then there's this article by CraveOnline that links back to him and EO:
>>538 The tumblr anti-Swifties say she was dumped by Harry Styles and John Mayer for being 'boring' .
I know nothing of about Harry other than he's in 1D, but I've heard tons of gossip about John Mayer having a huge sex drive.
Sexual incompatibility is more common than people admit, I think, and I wouldn't be surprised if hers is far more reserved than her boyfriends' due to general life stress, being young and insecure, and pregnancy worry because, statistics.
>>541 She is a nice girl from the conservative South, with a reputation to consider. And she suffers from arrested development from age 15 when she got famous. So there's that.
I am not necessarily saying she is a virgin now, though it was rumoured that was why she broke up with Styles and others. I think she thought CH was the one and surely during a year long relationship they did the deed. However I agree with you that she probably doesn't have a huge sex drive. I am far from convinced she slept with TH. They didn't radiate throw down (all those closed mouth kisses), and they were never really alone (bodyguards, Ryan Reynolds, mum), so lots of excuses for a person with low sex drive to not have it happen. And TH went for a lot of runs when she was visiting in Australia. I just didn't get the vibe that as soon as they were alone together they leapt on each other.
>>539 This article about EO is a copy of an article from the end of November, post Laser Night gate. It was the reason why I thought that whatever was going on with EO ended, because if you notice the article isn't flattering for TH so the general idea was that it came from EO's camp.
Since the other article you posted, about TS, is equally unflattering, I suppose it may be TS's camp. Or Maybe EO called TS and they had a chat :)
Someone who has instagram and can check, TH unfollowed someone didn't he? He follows 10 people now, they used to be more or my memory fails me?
>>544 JVR has shut down his account and the numbers have been subject to a glitch ever since hackgate.
Shifty is still hanging in there.
I don't see him unfollowing but I'd love it if he used the snake removal tool to erase all I❤️TS photos.
>>545 Thanks. I didn't doubt TS would still be there, but remembered a different number and I was curious.
He wish he could do that!
This Morning commenting the end of Hiddleswift, nothing juicy, Schofield didn't talk to any close friend of TH, but there's nothing else to post.
>>545 JVR has shut down his Twitter as well. Most odd. Is he having a meltdown in the editing room now he realises he actually made Shit Island?
Did anyone else notice how the veranda lady developed this sudden, irrational hatred of Kanye West while Tom and Taylor were dating? She was suddenly all over his posts commenting on how he invented misogyny or something. I wonder if that will stop now that she finally snapped and let her hate for Taylor flow.
>>550 Yes, and for Calvin Harris, who was characterised as a "whinger" for daring to say negative things about TS after they split!! The kind of negative things that veranda woman is now saying about, er, TS...
>>550 She was the main reason I couldn't handle CB. When I first came into the fandom and tested the waters there, I found it wasn't worth it to wade past her unfunny posts about her pretend drinks and baked goods. She was boring with her one trick ('drinks in the veranda!!'). That board could benefit greatly from a 'Block' feature.
>>553 *your and *something's. This baby better give back my brain when it comes out. I roasted a chicken yesterday for dinner. Turned on the oven, put the chicken in the baking dish, seasoned it and set the timer on the oven. Timer goes off, I go to get the chicken out...it's still sitting on the counter. I'd roasted an empty oven.
>>554 It's a mystery. Every time someone brought up that EO was in Hawaii with TH, she kept saying that all she could see was a blonde girl that looked a lot like Erin Moriarty and that anyway she doesn't care about TH's love life therefore anyone claiming that the girl was wearing the sweater EO was wearing at the ISTL's premiere in Savannah was not being sensible! Her and the aracne woman enjoy insulting people like that while pretending they don't.
>>555 On the other hand Anon. your sense of humour is wonderfully intact.
>>554 Right? I'm not even a crazy Tom fan but I started lurking in those threads because the comments are so bonkers. Veranda lady likes to mention that she's a big attorney (idk if you heard?) but she's there commenting constantly throughout the day, shutting down anyone who suggests TH might not be perfect with her SENSIBLE FACTS and cheesecake role play. I'm honestly kind of fascinated.
>>556 Yes I remember that! I know some on here didn't believe the initial Twitter reports of her visiting, but we did all accept that the person in that picture was EO! The veranda woman then kept saying that EO had just flown from LA to HI "as friends", which in her life apparently happens all the time
>>560 Yes, I imagine her working in a law practice like Saul's in Breaking Bad. Spending all day filing her nails and posting on CB.
>>560 And welcome, by the way. Come sit down by me on the veranda (just a kidding!).
>>563 Oh, you. *raises martini glass **dies a little inside
>>558 How do I make the bold? asks the woman with baby brain.
Captcha: exblong, which is how I'd spell exblonde
>>560,562 And voila!
A lawyer? Okay. I'd be quick to side-eye that. Someone who cannot see facts when they are clearly presented in front of them and who can't form coherent arguments doesn't seem the sort to sit the LSAT, secure a place at law school, survive law school, pass the Bar and then find a job. Mind you, I have an MA and it took me TWO go-rounds to cook a chicken, so....
>>565 First click on "More options..." it's next to the "Reply" button. Then click on the Formatting menu and pick yours:
>>560 Welcome! And you've found your way to the right place for 'not even a crazy Tom fan.' We tend to be sensible but snarky. We don't nanny or blindly defend the little mite, and we're pretty mature about disagreeing with each other.
>>567 of course I forgot to have wakabamark on default so my text turned bold instead of looking like this bold
>>567 Thanks. I had previously tried the usual HTML but it didn't work. Will try again.
>>569 That was the board fault, I didn't pick any formatting and it turned bold anyway!
>>542 Anon, I'm back and forth (no pun intended) on whether or not they ever slept together. I'm inclined to think they did it a couple of times early on - the rare times they were truly alone (June - RI and her NYC pad). How could TH not resist trying?
>>553 He'd been going on a lot of anti social media rants lately. Maybe someone finally told him to walk the walk? Or he's lying curled up and crying into his King Kong plushie.
>>572 I had heard about Josh and his social media harem. Like Drake. Poor Kat though. I can't stand her but she seems like a good egg.
I tend to head to the spa/salon before an important event. Is he getting over the 'break up' or getting ready for the RC?
>>574 I hope he was getting a facial peel and some moisturizer with SPF.
>>574 I'm guessing getting ready for the red carpet so whatever treatment he's gotten (facial ones esp) have time to undo all the damage to his skin by the time he gets to the Emmy's. Those Brisbane pics were NOT flattering.
>>575 Seriously. Though I will say seeing his pics are a good reminder for me to slap on some sunscreen everyday. So that's good.
Brand new video from Newzoids of Tom and Taylor singing a duet about their faux relationship and the paparazzi. Hysterical. Ouch.
Triple threat plug for Byron film fest.
>>572 No worries I didn't assume anything of the sort, I just remembered that detail about the oldest article and the similarity of the new one.
>>580 they seem to have recorded this the same night of the Irrelevant Tv Award.
Speaking of girl squad, I've just remembered that Anonon posted a video of Martha Hunt being asked about TH and that she barely kept herself from eyeballing at hearing his name. That was at the beginning of August, a 180° from her previous stand on this relationship. So maybe the girl squad knew that it was going to end soon.
>>583 At the very least we have a date on when TS made up her mind.
Maybe that trip to RI was TH's attempt to avoid an ending. He flew all the way there with a present even if TS was the one with free time. I suppose he might have watched the video of her kissing the billionaire and remembered what happened to Harris after their dance at the Met Gala.
>>584 Well, speak of the devil, the very unreliable source that is HL claims Selena has been giving TS sage advice (from her hospital bed in rehab). Like the rest of the world she thinks Tay should avoid boys for a while.
>>578 that is harsh and funny. It's a British show isn't it? Ouch.
>>584,585 the article in the Mail saying Frederick Forsyth knew it was definitely not TH as Bond appeared on 7 August. If FF knew by then, TH probably had known for a while longer. No point continuing with the showmance, and she was out of the woods on the KW saga by then.
>>588 It truly has been an awful idea and a poorly executed one.
He destroyed all the good work he did up until the Met Gala. And while it wouldn't be realistic to say this guy is back to square one, he is probably back to 3.
>>589 Hard to know where he is, isn't it?
For all the stans saying "it has not harmed his reputation in the US/the UK/wherever they hail from" or "only we fans have kept up with this saga, there is no problem in the mainstream" I think the reality is that it has harmed him.
>>583 >>586 I know that I'm repeating myself, but I'm pretty sure that Team Tom ended the appearances clauses of this contractual relationship, right when he returned from a one-day trip to NYC. Hiddleston was seen eating lunch at Balthazaar in Soho, after being seen for the first time with his Brooklyn-based business manager at Comic Con. Soho is where his lawyers have an office, and he was seen at Marvel HQ in NYC. Hiddleston flew commercial back to LA in one day, and Swift boomeranged back from Nashville, chased him back to LA after a one-day trip, to make the Saturday night pap outing an Hillstone, and the alleged Church Key outing, of which the pics do not resemble Swift at all. As a I saw the Hillstone pics after his NYC business meetings, no joke, I said aloud that they would NEVER be seen in the same pictorial frame again. Under the k, after Hillstone I think that Tom had fulfilled the number of times he had to be seen with Swift, and his team chose to fulfil the obligations to the narrative by other means. He was later spotted with her Toyota sequoia at the gym. He was spotted allegedly arriving from RI with her plane, but the meta data of the photos and the paparazzi in RI indicated he never ever was there, and just changed his shirt on the tarmac to make it look like he got on the plane. Even the gossip mags wouldn't state that Tom was him RI, only that US magazine "reported" that Tom was in RI. One even said that Tom was "allegedly" in RI, or that he was in RI "according to sources", meaning Swift's PR team.
>>592 That pap night at Hillsone was July 28, btw. Also, Swift has a troublesome relationship with fake bfs. Below, Vulture indicates the manufacture nature of the Gyllenhall pairing. Also, if you look at the appearances she made with CH, TS spent 3 hours with him at the night club on NYE, she spent fewer than 10 hours in Colorado with him for the snow-man building pics of Christmas vacay, and he was only in the Bahamas for two days their vacay with the swan raft and four bikini changes of pics for their Instagram pages. This was validated by the timing and location update on their Instagram/twitter accounts. There was a full-on three month absence of pics following CH's happy ending massage parlor pics (which people say he staged b'c the paps were there when he arrived), and afterwards they would only make restaurant appearances to hotspots after the calling the paps when their was doubt they were still together. IMO, Taylor the woman is private, but she presents a deliberately manufactured public life for her "Taylor Swift" brand to get her fans to invest in her life travails, to which her lyrics correspond to in achingly specific detail. Articles below.
FYI, Gossip Cop has just debunked that Tom was dropped from the role of James Bond. I think Team Tom has learned a few new tricks. Lets not give them clicks.
Tom Hiddleston has not been “dropped” from an upcoming James Bond movie, despite a sensational report. Gossip Cop can debunk the misleading story. RadarOnline blares in a headline, “007 BUST! More Heartbreak For Tom! Hiddleston Dropped From James Bond Movie After Swift Split?” The accompanying story says Hiddleston “can’t catch a break.” The site writes, “Just days after news of his split with Taylor Swift, 26, went public, the 35-year-old actor could be canned from the James Bond movie he has been gunning for.”
TS nominated for a Clio Award as Creative Director of the Apple ad- as if any further proof be needed of her involvement in the plagiarism.
>>595 He was tweeted by firenbrenie pointing out that TS was responsible for the creative side. I recall he tweeted "oh shit" or something in response so he knew the truth. It seems so long ago, though, and was before SDCC. I can't imagine his departure was directly caused by this (and surely anything he said about TS doesn't matter to TH now they split!). It may have been the backstory to a more generalised social media meltdown.
I have to post this for the spectacular header photo which includes a mistaken picture of a Thor cosplayer.
>>596 I seriously doubt it was a contributing factor, but JVR's dislike for TS must have escalated due to this nomination.
I imagine he's overwrought with work which is the main reason people shut down their social media- so there's less distraction to get on with the job.
>>597 I honestly think that's Chris Hemsworth's stunt double.
I was joking about saving that tweet for posterity but it's rich indeed that she's been nominated for an award... for her maybe-plagiarism. Someone let New Firenbrenie know if the Clios have a Twitter!
Sadly this emanates from HL and it is presumptively bullshit (TS I worked TH while making TNM...errr!!) but it is too joyous not to post:
>>601 "There is no time for outside drama on a night that might never happen again for him." Shadey shade!
>>601 The author is correct: Vance's name should already be on that statuette. I binged the TPvOJ and even CGJr's hammy acting was on point. TNM was very good, excellent at times, but OJ was a strange combination of actors that added up to perfection.
>>603 They did learn to use emojis recently so there's been a lot of...that. It kinda makes me miss the veranda.
>>603 They may spell it "verandah".....?
You know how I feel about TPVOJS. I have banged on about this before. It started a few weeks ahead of TNM on British TV. One night after watching Ep2 of TNM we watched the first episode of OJ (hubs had read a New Yorker review and wanted to give it a try). Then we watched the second....and the third.....and the fourth. We were utterly gripped - and I say that as two lawyers who rarely if ever watch legal dramas (except the Good Wife - for the shoes, and because I heart Diane). TNM was not flattered by the comparison.
>>602 It's harsh but true. It's his first US award nom. And it's been a bit dry for other 'major' award noms/wins: Olivier in 2008, ES in 2014. He's just not doing the work that get serious award noms/winds. Twitter was alive with congrats for his recent TV Choice award, but talk about nothing to write home about!
>>606 Hey, he did get "serious award wind" for ISTL...
>>607 HA! Fast fingers, faulty brain!
It gave audiences serious wind...and TH was up his own ass about it... before every critic sharted all over it.
>>606 It has been a huge summer of miscalculation for him and his "team".
Even if it was real, it was incredibly badly managed from a PR perspective - how we laughed at the ineptness of PurseGateGate, but little did we know! Ok, so you really, really lurve each other, but as O. Wilde memorably observed, stop washing your clean linen in public.
>>609 That headline is generous. I predict the following:
If he shows up: Taylor Swift's ex casts a lonely figure on the Emmy RC
This picture reminds me of how much of a neglected nerd this boy is. The picture is, of course, from the night of the Met Ball, when the head cheerleader paid attention to him. He's wetting himself with long-delayed teenage joy. Sadly, the head cheerleader is an asexual, manipulative, dishonest snake.
>>603 Oh hell yeah the Best Actor Emmy belongs to Vance. I too binged on after watching TNM and it was hard to turn off. I'm currently rewatching TNM (I'm on Ep. 6) and except for Episode 3 (which I lovingly refer to as Tom Hollander's forgotten Emmy reel) the show was too hit or miss scene-wise to match TPvOJS.
>>612 TNM felt like a triumph of style over substance. Great titles (also got nominated!), beautiful locations, quality cast - but the script wasn't that good. And on second watching TH wasn't that good either. I was fooled by the endless appearances of the Hiddlesbum!
>>612,613 I agree, TNM had a beautiful package and some nice scenes, but overall a terrible script that made the characters unrealistic and the story stupid and it didn't benefit from the update to modern times. TH was stiff and awkward in it.
You should keep in mind that in the novel Pine is often referred to as the "close observer". He observes quietly and when he acts he does it also quietly. He uses his brain, not his muscles. He needs to show a poker face all the times, never show what he's feeling or thinking. I think Tom did a great job. It's not easy to act that restrained and expressionless.
sorry about the typos. "All the time" instead of "all the times".
>>613 Anon: Having sat as the foreman on the civil suit proceedings of a murder trial, I'm glad mine was lowkey in comparison to TPvOJS. We were not sequestered, thankfully.
>>614 Couch: during the TNM rewatch I was able to see what you initially said back in March or so when you said TH's acting suffered because he looked like he wanted convicted to or convinced of what he was doing. It was the expression, or lack of it on his face in so many scenes. Exhibit A: Poolside with Corky, Jonathan Pine looks at him while squinting with his mouth partially open, not steely-gazed like Bond. I also blame the direction. The only thing that saved the scene was the shot of his ass as he turned around to face Jed on the other side of the pool.
>>615 As someone who read the book in 2 different languages, TH's Pine is nothing like the original. Pine in the book doesn't smile continuously like a salesman, for instance. TH did an awkward job, whether the fault was his or not is irrelevant. And I think people misunderstand what a poker face is supposed to be, a person under cover is not a person that never makes faces and keep smiling awkwardly. The Americans (the tvshow) is a better example of what under cover is actually supposed to be like.
>>617 You just couldn't buy TH's Pine, he didn't look like a former military nearing his 40s. He wasn't smooth and poised, he was permanently corrugated or smiling sheepishly. He looked like someone who had no idea of what he was doing but was happy he was given fancy suits, in a fancy house with a fancy girl...Basically TH's summer (that's also mean but it's one of those days).
>>618 I agree. I know it is hard to play a part where the character has to conceal his feelings from others. But (for example) Alec Guinness did a brilliant job of being one of Le Carre's inscrutable and all-seeing spies in Tinker Tailor and in Smiley's People. He is a flawless example of how to appear to other characters to do nothing or give nothing away and yet to convey to the audience what he is thinking. There were whole scenes in those series where he didn't speak a word of dialogue and yet his facial expressions told a whole story. It was a consummate performance and those series set a very high bar as to how to do Le Carre. Unfortunately TNM didn't in my view live up to them.
>>616,620 Yes exactly - Tinker Tailor and Smiley's (both the series and movie remake) had great examples of how to be a spy. Didn't Tom watch those? Did Susanne Bier? Savvy I guess to me he did not show his poker face enough.
Sun article. Celebrity stylist of K Kloss says that the Hiddleston/Swift pairing was always doomed b/c they could never be a normal couple, and TH was just part of the TS show. And even though the people around TH were initially very excited about TH being seen with TS at first, their fans, esp Swifties, hated the idea of the pairing, that their reputations just kept taking hits from all sides. Truth. Can't believe that he blamed the Swiftie fans, though! They seem to want to believe anything positive in the press about TS. Plus, Did anyone see David Duchovony call TS the queen of the publicity stunt on twitter, in reaction to her walking with Zayn and his Gigi as they romantically hold hands with an iphone between them? Ouch.
He should miss out on the Emmy for that annoying laugh he did throughout the series. God, I hated it. I HATED it. It should go into Room 101 along with that stupid pose he always does.
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed TNM. It was great entertainment, and TH did a very good job; sure he's no Alec G., but who is?! There was eye candy, some very short love scenes, and TH trying to be tough, which was sometimes cringe-y but also sexy on occasion. But in comparison to Vance, well, there ain't no comparison.
No clicks for The Sun who first brought this monster to our poor eyes!!
>>624 I don't think it was so much that fans 'didn't like it.' Plenty did, especially hers - or in the case of some at CB: pretended to like it and did support it. The problem was that so many people either doubted it or just didn't believe it was real. And the relationship couldn't be 'normal' because they decided not to be normal.
>>623 Thinking man and that weird soundless laugh then eheheh. Yes, those are for room 101. So are the gratuitous "thinking about things while lying shirtless in bed with the covers pulled down to my pubes" scenes. I don't like being played.
Okay. Apparently CelebNow magazine has come out to throw Tom under the bus, stating that he teased TS because she didn't read books or know Latin, and bragged to her team about his Cambridge degree. And he left her "stranded" w/o a key outside of a gym, and left her waiting while he was a on set. I think that is just having a job : )Anyway, she claimed that he was a control freak trying to run her life!
>>627 Urrrrggggghhhhhh. Are these leaks? Are these PR narratives? I can't tell anymore because no one is winning at this point, no one's reputation is being rehabilitated.
If you are leaking: STOP, Tayto. Just STOP. So many are side-eyeing you, so many are disgruntled. Don't.make.us.hate.you.
>>628 Too late for many, including me.
What in the hell would make someone print such abusive nonsense? What was it that he told her 'No' to that made her become so vindictive? Or, Tree?
For a good, hearty chuckle check out Firebrenie's twitter avatar/cover photo ( https://twitter
Tom will be presenting at the Emmys.
Good. It's a chance for some redemption while taking a painful ribbing from everyone, getting some of the jokes out of the way and moving forward.
>>631 Look at the consolation prize! That's going to be FUN.
>>631 So when he said he wasn't going to be leaving Queensland any time soon, that was another lie. I do wish he would be a bit - what's the phrase? - more non-committal?
>>634 I think perhaps to him "not leaving Queensland" = not done with filming, "I don't smoke" = he doesn't smoke heavily or regularly, and so on. He probably doesn't see it as lying, even though it comes off that way to a lot of people.
>>635 Almost forgot, contracted acting job as Very Happy Boyfriend to Taylor Swift = "not a publicity stunt."
It does make one wonder about other times he's potentially skated around the truth. "Definitely hetero" comes to mind.
>>631 A braver man than I. I don't know if the writers/host will go easy on him. They may; perhaps it's an unwritten rule in HW that Emmy writers don't openly mock Emmy nominees. I've never watched the Emmys so I don't know how cutthroat they are with their references or jokes. Any consequences from this summer may be kept away from the cameras and hidden from our view, instead going on BTS with producers, directors, casting agents, etc.
>>639 I think operation shameless damage control takes precedence which means lurching on to the only accolade he has and going full throttle.
Apparently Kimmel stated TH is not fair game for his ridicule now that TayTo have split. In other words if Tay had accompanied him he would have been ruthless.
>>635 I think that's called lying by omission.
>>639 I take his presence as a sign of the nothingness that awaits for him after Thor3. From what I read, A-list actors very often don't even attend the Emmys, even if they know they'll win. He is probably going to use this for networking, trying to sell the idea that the serious "I'm not interested in the circus of being a celebrity" "Some things are sacred" thespian is still there.
>>641 I respect Kimmel for that. If he is proceeding on the basis that it was a real relationship, then it would be a shitty thing to mock a guy who just split up with his GF.
>>641 And yes I totally agree he may have nothing in the diary after Thor 3 hence he will currently go to the opening of an envelope. I think he is going to be hanging around my hood a lot come November.
>>642 By that logic it would have been rude to mock them if they were still together. Anyway, it's not like he has to slam him, but TH earned a few jokes at his expense after these past 4 months.
>>641 I agree. He's business networking and hoping to use the cache of the Emmy nod to acquire a leading man role with a wonderful script. His resume is great and he has a cerebral presence. If the monkey movie lands well, in addition to Thor 3 (Marvel movies don't fail), I think that 2017 could be a comeback year for him. If not a film, then another prestigious tv film like TNM, for an Emmy win. And more Shakespeare like Much Ado, or R2. He probably needs a crisis PR team though. Hollywood seems to have the attention span of a knat. Honestly, with his training and ability to play character parts, he could probably be in top tier ensemble films for a while till he finds the right leaning man role. Colin Firth did that for a long time with Shakespeare in Love and the English Patient. Then he got Pride and Prejudice, then Bridget Jones, then A Single Man and the King's Speech. He should think more about the journey and not the now, I think. But I'm not a pro : )
>>644 I think it's different to tease someone who is in a relationship and is as far as you know happy and secure, and teasing someone who just split and maybe got dumped. Wonder what Kimmel will actually do.
>>646 I see a difference too, but I suppose in my view if someone thinks a relationship is real than I find mean to mock it because I don't like mocking something that is good. While if a relationship was created for PR purposes and to manipulate people's perception of you, than you are fair game.
And it begins. During Emmy week no less. Will she drop the single on Emmy night lol
>>648 Kelsea Ballerini has already knocked this rumor down, "in clarification to prior tweets, Kelsea is in the studio recording her second album. These recording sessions have had nothing, nor will they have anything to do with Taylor Swift." She like this tweet, so its true, thank goodness. No more drama.
>>649 That's so odd. Because the audio sounds exactly like Taylor. Is she saying the song has nothing to do with Taylor and it's a collab or that it's not Taylor's voice on the song? Because if it's the latter that's a stretch because it's definitely Taylor's voice.
Kelsea Ballerini liked this tweet confirming that she is not working on new music with Taylor after fan speculation. It's on her twitter update page KBUpdates @KelseaonTour, so its legit.
>>651 lol I think her friend messed up and is now backtracking. It sounds exactly like Taylor. But oh well I guess the "official" statement is its not Taylor. Until we find out later that it is Taylor and Kelsea gets kicked out of the squad for not teasing the song the way Taylor wanted it.
>>650 Kelsea also just liked a pic on protectingSwift on Instagram again confirming it’s KELSEAS song and not Taylor’s. So we can believe it. Yay.
>>653 After what she pulled with Calvin and that this is what you came for song and had him say all he said about the son while they were together, yeah sorry I'm not buying what she's selling. A few months down the line we'll see drama about it probably. Just to clarify I'm not saying the song is about Tom but it's definitely Taylor's vocals on that clip.
>>652 These girls are too silly. TS and her rogue squad members can create drama where there is no drama. The wording of nor will have nothing to do with Taylor Swift is a pretty hard line denial though. How will they get out of that lie? How did TH somehow go from Shakespeare and the West End to high school antics and reality tv drama?
This is ridiculous, but I remembered Anon description at the time and it made me smile.
"Taylor Swift dumped dishy actor Tom Hiddleston after realising what her future life would be like on the Suffolk coast.
>>656 LOL Ran screaming from the red trousers, huh? Looks like she's gone in the opposite direction, because the new rumor is she's picking up with young actor Zac Efron, about whom I know nothing: http://dlisted.com/2016/09/15/taylor-swifts-next-boyfriend-might-be-zac-efron/
>>657 So many chuckles on this post. Especially this 'to do' list:
>>658 Tom Cruise! Maybe being audited by the Co$ will cause her to wake up from her infantile bubble, she'll run screaming (again!) and the Co$ will declare her a 'hostile being' or whatever they call the rest of us.
>>659 She belongs in the Co$. I just rewatched the Southpark episode where Tom Cruise is tapped in the closet with John Travolta and R Kelly and the only person missing was TS
>>658 Do you mean this account also followed TS and unfollowed her now or after SDCC? Or that this account had first followed and then unfollowed people related to TS?
>>661 The account is on complete lockdown. I can't see who it's following so there's a chance I have it wrong but as I mentioned a few threads ago I watched it very carefully during the filming of SI and it was liking posts of obscure crew members with no fan followers and less than a handful of 'likers'.
Someone else on here mentioned they think they've found his private account and it's different so really who knows.
>>661 No, don't worry, I forgot that you said it was private, somehow I thought it was public, but since I don't have instagram I can't see the follows anyway, that's why I asked. It's no big deal.
>>664 Still in Australia! I thought he had already left for LA.
>>665 Flights are usually late evening. I'd expect a sighting in about an hour if he is leaving tonight. TH has managed to quite literally fly unnoticed since splitting with TS which is not suspicious at all
>>666 hahaha I'm curious to see if paps will approach him at LAX.
Meanwhile, the snake slithers over to the next victim:
I"m waiting for the site to load so I can cut / paste the text. Stand by.
Taylor Swift and Zac Efron are reportedly DATING!
>>670 He's 5'8" so I expect a collection of flats to be worn until this contract is over, and of course she'll pick out his Christmas gift from him.
Also, the tabloids are feeding up a Belated Happy April Fools Day!
He was spotted behind stage at the Emmys:
Stood next to Tom Hiddleston a few minutes ago, he is the coolest dude. I understand the appeal the ladies have for him now. #workadventures
He is at the pre- Emmys party (pics 39 and 41). It is a fact that every man in these pics apart from Courtney Vance looks 850 years old (and most of the women except America Ferrera).
>>675 And Kitt Herrington. But look, TH managed to make it through LAX without being papped! Is Tina Fey part of the presenters? Because given her past spat with TS...
>>676 Of course Taylor's crazy fans will say that it was only because of the association with her that TH was papped at airports. Which is also bullshit because she has been flyin around since they broke up without any pics.
>>678 Pfft, they say that TH's stans say that to was all her fault. In their insistence that their favourites are genuine people, TS's fans and TH's stans are identical.
>>675 Was just coming in to post this. Also, Torrilla's got all the pics up.
>>677 A couple of mentions already about matching up those TH and PC and making TS 'jealous.' Apparently TS was invited to attend one of the parties, so there's speculation among some of her stans ("I won't believe they really broke up until she posts it on her IG/TW! He made her look so happy!!!) that she may show up to be with TH. They haven't gotten the memo...
>>681 I"'d say it is pretty apparent from her IG that she has broken up with TH. Her posting frequency has gone right back up since the news came out - she posted maybe 15 pics during the "relationship", none of which was of him, whereas in the last week she has posted 5 or 6. For whatever reason it looks like she was on an almost social media moratorium, which ended very promptly with the end of TayTo.
>>658 Speaking of IG I found this detective work by Anonon very interesting (about the private IG account that is possibly his). Rumour has it that he has a private Facebook account as well. I did take a look for that using a few educated guesses, but never came up with anything.
>>682 Maybe it was part of their agreement - no couple photos on social media, mutual follows only. Makes the clean up after the scheduled breakup that much easier.
>>684 That is exactly what I had in mind but didn't express very well.
Did we ever find out who this guy is? We've seen him at SDCC, Oz and now the Emmys. My hope is he's Luke's replacement; more likely: a special consultant on 'fixing absolute clusterfucks,' which suggests they knew it was an absolute clusterfuck circa SDCC - while most had called it by the Selena Gomez concert (the rest following suit somewhere around T-shirt Gate).
>>686 Yes the pingy dude that goes everywhere with him and even seems to live with him on set and go out for dinner dates.
I'd like to think he's the Hollywood version of a mafia 'cleaner' but it seems something more.
>>687 I just feel like someone is trying very hard to convince me of something, you know? Tom Hiddleston, Heterosexual Male!
>>688 This is what I'm thinking.
I also can't stand shaved solid beard lines, it's up there with excessive use of hair gel and ponytails. Such men alway have far too many opinions on fashion
I was I'd wake up to infinite posts (not here) of TNM winning everything because (according to TH's stans at CB) TH has the Emmy and was the presenting the last and most prestigious award, instead he presented Outstanding Directing and TNM won nothing.
>>690 It would explain the willingness of his mother and sister to participate in the stunting over the summer. If one of my close family members asked me to do that pap walk purely for PR visibility, I'd decline. If that family member was a very closeted actor and was trying to keep a heterosexual image in order to keep his career from dying, I'd consider helping him out.
>>687 I read that Priyanka Chopra has a reputation of going after married men. Or at least she did while she was working in India.
Not going to be surprised in the least when Tom and Priyanka come out as a couple by next week eyeroll
>>691 Suzanne Bier won for "outstanding direction of TH'a arse" - really, a travesty as that was not a madly well directed series.
I correct myself immediately, Susanne Bier won the Outstanding Directing award (the NYT didn't list her!). I should have known, why else TH was presenting that award
>>686,687,688 Normally, I would have said it's his new bodyguard/driver. The one he used from Corioulanus seems to have disappeared. Not normally, nothing would surprise me anymore.
As for him and Priyanka, the article is unsurprising but I don't blame the media for writing one, because I don't doubt TH would go for it, the guy would do anything right now to fix his image. But mostly, given his modus operandi of these past 3 years, we know that by next summer he is going to have another romance.
>>694 Seriously though, if they give The People v. O. J. Simpson: American Crime Story the award for best mini-series how can they not give the Oustanding Directing award to one of the directors? It's a contradiction.
"Tom texted me that he wanted to do a tux with piping on the lapel, which Gucci has been doing recently, so we had two Gucci tuxes made and then pulled a few other options from them. We ended up going with one of the non-custom options, which never happens, because it fit him really well. He's been doing Thor so he lost some weight in the waist and gained some weight in the chest and it just ended up being the best cut on him."
>>699 The boots are even in the background of the photo.
>>701 I hate how she insists on doing his hair. It looks lovely when it has a curl and she straightens it back from his receding hairline.
>>704 Yes! It doesn't help improving a situation that is becoming more and more evident.
>>698 1. Firt, Suzanne Bier has the prestige and the name. since she is an Oscar winning director. already. That's a HUGE advantage in TV world.
2. You have to the remember that most of the people in the Academy are not actors. They hold/held positions in front and behind the camera. Although it's great to watch two actors in a room spar using wonderful verbiage, the TNM required Suzanne to do more than that. She guided English speaking actors as well as actors who spoke other languages besides English, handled muriad locations all around the world. This included filming in cities with many extras in crowd shots, and in small isolated towns. On beaches and on the water. In the snow and in the desert, during the day and night. And she accomplished filming gorgeous and explosive action sequences with explosions, and fight sequences as well. And this directon made the series glossy and exceptionally emotionally easy for viewers to engage, and esp. easy for voters who are not actors to respect, since Bier had to command such a variety of skills as a director.
>>707 1. Her name, prestige and previous work are irrelevant or they might as well avoid going through the motion of picking nominations and give it to the one with the best resumè. This is not a job interview.
2. And that's how she got her nomination, but to win, one must prove to be the best among all nominated. If she had been then her series should have won more, an Outstanding director that is good with explosions but can't bring any award to her actors? Viewers clearly engaged just as well with The PeoplevsOJ. so Anon is right, the award to Bier was a travesty decided in advance, ergo TH presence.
>>708 I think she was given the win because she directed the entire series. TPvOJS had a few directors who worked on different episodes, which maybe led the voters to perceive the actors as being more independent. Of course I'm not saying the directors didn't matter, but the voters' thought process may have been that a single director who led a cast of actors to multiple nominations was more deserving than a director who was only responsible for a few episodes, even if that series' actors gave better performances individually.
>>708 I wasn't saying that Suzanne Bier necessarily deserved the win for sure. I was just saying that despite how well Te OJ movie connected with fans, members of the academy, who are not thespians would find a diversity of skills to praise in Biers work throughout the entire series, The academy is not made of tv fans, and it's not made up of just thespians, like the SAG. Like when Gravity won at Oscars, it was because the film had such great visual scope, not because it had the best script, and not because it had the most subtle and multilayered acting.
>>687 Re: Eonline article matching up TH and PC at an after party: she has a steady bf - a fiancé, according to google. So I'm more apt to believe E! is shit stirring. Plus that was not the only party he attended. If she is spotted at more parties with him tonight, then I will say there's a spark.
That was the funniest press to come out of this thing tonight
>>711 a spark of a friendship not her jumping to another guy while Tom jumps to another high profile romance.
Emmys 2016: Tom Hiddleston Says He's Still Friends with Taylor Swift : People.com
So, did the reporters scream this at Tom on the red carpet? And whose press team leaked this info, Tom or TS? : )
Check this new article on Tom, Swift, and flirting with Priyanka at the Emmys in Vanity Fair. Its as if the reality tv relationship PR situation with Swift has tainted our perception of Tom's motivations so much, that all we can see when he talks to a woman or when there is article about him are the machinations of his/the Hollyood PR machine. It used to be fun to look at Tom's pics, or chat and gossip about him, but how we just wonder about how we are possibly being manipulated, and for what specific purpose, and by whom?
>>704 Everyone, look at how far my hair has receded! Look at how thin it is! Can everyone see my hairline and melasma?
Dude, you want to recapture your youth...have your youthful hair. Let it get long, let it get curly, stop scraping it in the direction you don't want it to go. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp?
>>717 The tabloids do what they always do, they are not forcing anyone to read their silly articles.
As for perception, nobody's perception was tainted by TS, since TH's freely decided to every single thing that happened.
>>716 How convenient. And conveniently comic. And just a little unbelievable. But that's my skeptical self.
>>720 you are not alone, first thing I wondered was why would this girl travel all the way to Suffolk.
>>714 This seems a plant. Does People even have a reporter on the red carpet? Is that the only reporter TH spoke to on the RC because there aren't too many other RC interviews coming out, i.e., none.
From which camp? I know not, I care not. Hopefully it's an extended hand and both sides can stop behaving like their permanent residences are listed as 'the playground.' The relationship was a ruse, does the breakup need to be as well?
>>699 Sadly her presence - I won't call it employment - for a non-movie or press/ promo event suggests that she is employed not by a studio but by TH. Can we safely say she styled him on July 4th? Did TH text her saying that he wanted to wear something both emasculating AND embarrassing? She is such a good stylist!
>>722 Actually I can see Mama Hidds being in the Big Smoke for some artsy fartsy shindig. But the ringtone thing, if meant to be serious, seems the bullshit part.
>>725 Anything can be - that poster reminds me so much of nw3anon I can't help but taking everything with caution.
>>725 The woman said she was in the team for the Antony Sher Lear at the RSC. This is currently playing in Stratford and the RSC is a theatre company with which TH has had no association. Emma Hiddleston is not in the cast. Maybe Mama Hiddles went to see it in Stratford - maybe not. Can't imagine she would get special treatment if she did given TH has zero to do with the RSC, or that this poster would meet her even if she did. If Mama Hiddles went to London, why would this woman meet her, even if it was some arty shindig? Shouldn't she be working at Stratford still? Sounds like bullshit to me....
>>724 She's a terrible stylist. She seems to think that telephoning Gucci and saying "make Tom Hiddleston a dinner suit" shows that she is a genius, as if anyone with half a brain couldn't pick out a nice dinner jacket and some cuff links and surprisingly make it fit well given it was custom made.
>>728 I've come to dislike most of her styling choices for him (I haven't checked out other celebs who use her). I chalked it up to me just disliking her vision of hipster style.
"The house band included Ray Parker Jr., Steve Jordan and Mayer, who provided the night's bitchiest moment when he played "The Thrill Is Gone" as Taylor Swift's ex Hiddleston was leaving the stage. Oh, dear John."
Tom and Gwendoline Christie:
>>728,729 I hope you both realize I was joking when I said she's good (I think you do)! Although, if she did style him into that t-shirt, she hit the brief perfectly as it was both emasculating and embarrassing! Earn that money, sweetie.
Mystery Man was Tom's +1 last night. There's also a possible identification of him as Tom's agent from NYC, although I'm not sure how to confirm if that's true.
Michael K. Sees you TH, he sees you.
>>733 Holding Tom's tub of hair gel for 5% of his earnings. I could do that job.
1) Yes, I know
2) I don't want to think about Tom and any dark tunnels he's travelled recently.
Tom doing an impression of either a tortoise or Michael Douglas:
No point of re-shipping GOT actress, G. Christie and Tom. As of August 6, 2016, she is still with her partner of nearly four years, the outstanding couture fashion designer Giles Deacon. Smart girl. Finding a very tall, talented, and straight fashion designer as a beau! Reminds me of when Gene Tierney and Grace Kelly were both smart enough to court Oleg Cassini in the 40s and 50s, before he later went on to dress Jackie Kennedy during her White House years.
>>733 There are now conflicting reports on tumblr, saying that Tom's manager from NYC is a man named Jon Rubinstein, who looks nothing like Mr. Beard. Google confirms it. Back to being a mystery.
Want a giggle, darlings?
So TS was in Nashville on Saturday. But on Sunday evening EST, her plane took off from Nashville and landed in Burbank in the evening (an hour or so after the Emmys wrapped). Today it headed back to Nashville at around 4:00 EST.
>>740 I remember Anonon first spotted that he was the same person in the DM pics and the SDCC pics. I then recognized him last night fairly quickly (the beard is an easy spot and my ability to recognize faces is the only faculty not being impacted by my time as an incubator). I don't think we saw him before SDCC. He seems new.
>>740,742 I just Googled the shit out of this Jon Rubinstein and used all my imagination to add an ugly beard and hair to him. While the face is similar, his hairline aint. Jon's is in deep recession, rather like TH, whereas our mystery beardy dudey has a very pronounced and alarmingly straight hairline (rather like his beardline).
Conclusion: it's the same man with hair plugs or (most likely) a completely different person.
>>742 Supposedly his agents, who, along with the show producers, were 'yelling at him' for allowing the stunt to overshadow his promotion of TNM during the Emmy voting period which ended on Aug. 29th.
>>743 Yep, there you go. No pics of them together Sunday night have surfaced. I think I read that it's already flown back to Nasville?
she flew in to attend a party she was rumoured to have been invited to but one TH did not attend
>>745 It was probably a family member using the plane. Her brother has been filming a movie in Los Angeles so the jet could have been picking him up, or bringing someone out to see him.
>>745 option 1 is least likely or we would have seen pics
Option 2 is just kidding cause Luke is with him and I find it hard to believe he would say " ok you two kids run off and have fun and DONT FORGET TO USE A CONDOM!"
Option 3 seems more likely
>>744 Does he has LA agents? I thought his agent was London based.
>>743 He doesn't have BFFs: he has Luke and Olly. And while he may be planning to exit the closet (who knows!), I don't think he'd show up at an awards show with his boyfriend only a few weeks after splitting from his high-profile girlfriend. If TH comes out as gay anytime soon, the gig is up, and both he and TS will be in the shit.
The dailymail has reprinted the pic of Tom laughing with the blonde fan outside of The Brunch & Co. coffee shop in Australia from last week, along with his pics with Priyanka from Emmy night and suggesting their after party flirtation, to frame him as some sort of lothario. The dailymail just wants clicks, or Luke and Co are just throwing anything up at the wall to see what sticks, to get out from under the TS Summer drama.
>>750 His US Agent is, or was, WME (Willam Morris Endeavor). They signed him in October 2011. Before that it was IME.
The last time I checked over to his IMDBPro site (which is partially blocked for me by a popup since I'm not a Pro subscriber), it listed his UK/US management (Hamilton Hodell) and WME for his US agents.
Back on Mystery Man again, I've looked at some more photos from different angles and I think he may indeed be Jon Rubinstein after all. Ignoring the hair and beard and looking at facial features, bone structure, and especially the ears, I'm about 95% sure it's him.
>>755 It's such a shame the only available reference photos are completely hairless but there's been a remarkable transformation if it is the same man. I too see similarities in his face shape and obviously it makes the most sense if it is him. It's logical that micromanaging stepped in during SDCC and has not left his side for one second since.
In the time between his managers last official press shot he has had the 'stein' chiselled off his nose and his hairline sewn back in- all very plausible in the world of Hollyweird I guess.
>>755 it does, now that I found a picture of him without beard.
>>756 lol! I just caught what you said at the end lol I don't think it's Jon Rubinstein though. The noses are completely different though like Anonon said he could've gotten a nose job but I dunno. There's also the difference in the length of the face.
Hang onto your hats for another desperate Oscar-grabbing publicity tour for ISTL. There was an "actors only" screening last night at which TH did a q&a. This lady has lots of tweets:
>>755,756 The Jon Rubinstein you are talking about is this one https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonrubinstein and this one http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/authentic-sells-scripted-tv-series-848957 ? Yes, I agree with anonsy, the ears are the same.
>>760 It is easier to see the similarity from the 6,000 year old LinkedIn photo.
Here is a question: how many hangers on does TH now have?
He's headed back to Australia:
That same instagram account also has a clip from the ISTL Q&A that I did not listen to.
>>762 I laughed when I read that Rubinstein's management company is called Authentic Talent and Literary Management, no wonder TH signed up with them, he is so authentic! But they are based in Brooklyn, was TH anywhere near them when he was in NY in June and then in July? Can we infer that him acquiring a second agent in the US means he can't find scripts?
>>764 Thank you, because I almost thought of making the sacrifice of watching the over 20 minutes q&a, now I'll pass.
>>683 Re: trying to decipher his private IG - Anonon and I have different guesses. The one I'm looking at has a lot of the right people behind the scenes but it has a few verified accounts like they don't want to have to switch accounts just to look?
Meant to say that what is sad is that I can't recall the company name so I can't look up the account. My guess was that maybe he friended Tom's private FB account..
>>768 you can try the older threads, I think I posted the link to that photo last year.
The only thing I don't quite understand of Rubenstein is his presence in OZ. His company doesn't about PR so I can't find a reason for him to be there or at SDCC.
Anyway, this is their website http://www.authenticm.com/
>>768 I don't think I'll ever know unless we become friends and I will never send a request.
There is no way to see who the account follows, verified or not. That is the nature of private accounts from my experience. All you can see is the name of the account, their profile pic if they have one, the number of posts and the number of people they follow. JArthy's account, for instance is also on total lockdown.
>>771 The only frame of reference I have for that is the show Entourage, which is heavily influenced by the life of Mark Wahlberg.
His best friend is his manager and 'manages' him constantly and his agent and whole team step up the nannying whenever he does bad things that require fixing.
>>772 I kind of assumed that TH would have a private IG if he had one, not a public one under a pseudonym. That and the never posting any pics part makes me think Anonon might have the right account. Also it would seem to me that there is no point having a fan account if you keep it private, so it doesn't sound like a fan account.
>>774 No the name is a dead giveaway it's either him or a fan pretending to be him. He's never been imaginative with his account names.
I doubt a fan would be able to maintain the ruse with close colleagues for such a long time either.
>>775 What is it? If you don't want to post the name, give me a good hint or point me in the right direction.
>>776 Have a look at his initials plus a number, no picture, very British emoji
>>777 I think I find it, just tell me if the numbers of post/follower/following are correct: 32/25/366
New Anon was right, he is an underling from the West Coast office who has not had a Hollyweird makeover
>>780 I was just about to post, I haven't found the possible Tom IG but I did find Jon Rubinstein's IG and his recent photos show him with no hair and no beard.
>>780 He apparently runs the LA division of Authentic and also manages Brie Larson.
>>778 Damn - I still can't find it. Maybe I am being too obvious!
>>784 I haven't found it either. There is one account I did find that only has four photos of birds and kittens. I'm going to pretend that's his.
>>784,785 think simple, all of his initials and two numbers, the first two numbers you would associate with him.
>>786 Got it now. I'd have thought the numbers would have been in reverse.
>>785,787 Still nope. I thought I was being obvious. The only number I associate with him is a 4 digit one but his initials and that number bring up nothing (well they bring up an actual fan account)
>>787 Remember that with private accounts the only ones who have access to their photos or activity are the followers. That will be only his most loyal and trusted friends.
I can't remember now but I think it jumped around 6 extra followers at the beginning of summer and dropped most of them in stages after SDCC.
>>789 Still nope. Two letters? I thought it was numbers. I must be on completely the wrong track. Never mind.
>>790 Yes, it's 2 numbers Anon. Ok, let's see if I can help you. Initials, that's easy. The other two, your hint would be an ID, the first 2 field, without zeros.
>>792 hahaha we are so covert we should be spies.
Yay! Found it! >>775 You're right. He really isn't very imaginative with the name. Maybe he really is very naive lol
OT The second greatest couple of our times has just split.
T I could see TH swooping in.
>>797 I'm more shocked about the reason for the split than the split.
TH will stay single until next summer. I think Luke put him on probation.
>>797 Huh? Let me look at the news.
Ha, the gossip rags have been hinting about this for months.
>>798 That we know of. With one very obvious exception, boy likes to keep it on the DL.
>>797,798,799 I'm really worried (I'm not) that UsWeekly is already writing an article with the lines: 'When he heard about the divorce, he sent Angie flowers and called her the very next day. Tom's so ready to be a step-dad.'
>>795 Thank you! That was about the only combination I hadn't tried!
Only thing that makes me wonder - as anonsy said - is the order. It would be very unusual for a British person to put them that way round. It is really deeply ingrained that we don't do it. Maybe it was because he has spent a lot of time in America recently. IDK.
>>803 I wondering about the date as well. Perhaps 81 and 92 - were already taken. I also wonder at the little crown. Would he do that? Isn't that an emoji put into the description line - he's only recently started to use them, probably after Gigi Hadid gave him a lesson.
>>803 re: the order of the numbers - maybe it was to through people off, as in 'a British person would never us 29 so it can't be him'
>>801 Yeah, I'm with you. Mystery Man is not this guy either. I was watching some clips of Tom at Emmy's and arriving at the after parties, and Mystery Man is an entirely different guy. I still think he's a junior manager that Rubinstein has tasked with babysitting Tom for the time being so he can fly everywhere with him. But otherwise Jon Rubinstein is Tom's official main manager it seems since it's his name that shows up when you look up info on Team Tom.
>>801,806 Hmm Mystery Man is perplexing.
He seems to be a man who's very comfortable with his shameful beard whereas both men we have considered prefer to be cleanshaven.
I'm going to look in hairier pastures from now on.
>>804 As much of a luddite he seems to be, TH would have been subjected to barrages of emojis through our darling JArthy and friends. They replace as many words with pictures as humanly possible.
Think she just posted the pic late or did Hiddlepiddle lie again about leaving for Aus when he wasn't? I don't know why he'd lie to that one lady, he seemed to know her personally.
>>808 She posted some of her photos from Emmys night the day after, so I'm thinking it's just a late post. You're right, he did seem to know that woman from the screening personally and he even told her exactly when his flight was leaving.
Jimmy Kimmel just bashed TS and Tom, by saying that since Brangelina split, they should be thankful that they won't have to be on the covers of all of the tabloids anymore. Where was this joke during the Emmy telecast?!
>>803,804 The crown is perplexing, he doesn't seem to be such a Royalist (does this word exist?), but maybe he thought it was a good way to indicate his location without writing London UK?
>>801,806,807 The only sure thing is the company and that Rubinstein is completely shaved, on his instagram he posted photos of his trip to Japan 2 weeks ago, no hair or beard. So either Authentic has a thing for employing people who all look like each other, or this guy has nothing to do with Authentic, in which case I go back to think it's his new bodyguard and that would explain his presence in OZ. If Beardy follows TH back to London we'll know for sure.
"Star Tom Hiddleston, who lost to Courtney B. Vance’s Johnnie Cochran, said the highlight of his night was being able to open the envelope and announce his director Bier as the winner in her category. She too was absolutely beaming at the Governors Ball before rushing off to AMC’s party. Hiddleston, by the way, is staying in town to do a special screening and Q&A for the SAG Nominating Committee tonight that I will be moderating for his terrific performance as country legend Hank Williams in I Saw The Light, which Sony Pictures Classics released earlier this year. Once awards season ends with his first Emmy nomination, another begins with hopefully some remembrance of his remarkable work as Williams. Sony Classics certainly hopes so; the distributor will be campaigning it." http://deadline.com/2016/09/emmy-awards-winners-and-losers-celebrate-into-the-wee-hours-what-you-didnt-see-on-tv-1201822521/
Q&A with Taika Waititi
"How far are you in filming Thor: Ragnarok?
>>800 Pretending to be on the DL at least, but I think he always attempted to make it public somehow, BoraBora was exemplary in that, or Papnight. I think his next will probably be a mix of the previous pretension of privacy with some very public events, because these last are the ones that bring publicity.
>>815 I always thought Bora Bora was JArthy's revenge after he tried to shove her back in the closet after Wimbledon.
I think you are right though that we can now see a pattern of revealing then hiding. He teases us with Wimbledon or Pursegate, and then having whipped up a media frenzy zips his head back into his shell.
Mystery Man solved! His name is Brandon Liebman. Talent agent for WME.
>>817 What is it with these hipster beards? Why do men grow them?
PS good spot.
>>818 Thanks. I basically googled everyone on Team Tom and found a hit lol
Wonder what his talent agent is doing traveling with him like this? Don't talent managers usually do things like this and not agents? Maybe him and Taylor were actually a full blow showmance contract then.
>>819 I have to say I have always been bemused by what a "manager" does in this context. Agent I can see, publicist just about (though I read in the context of the Brangelina divorce that AJ hasn't got one, or seemingly anyone else in her teeny entourage except her agent and her lawyer. Which makes me think that a B list star like TH could possibly, just possibly, manage with a smaller crew). What does a manager do? What is there to "manage" if you have a publicist, an agent and a PA?
>>820 Great question. Everything I've read on agent vs. manager makes it out to be that a manager is an extra suit to find work and negotiate contracts. Used to be a time where the agent did that, and creative agencies had lawyers on staff. Apparently that's changed because an agent has may have as many as 150 clients, while a manager has at most 20-25 and can give more person attention.
>>820 This one is interesting:
So both Tom and Priyanka Chopra are represented by WME. If these two become a couple, I'm calling Operation Damage Control. It's too obvious.
>>820,821 Do managers have areas of expertise? Managing showmances (let's say), managing showmances gone horribly wrong. It's not for nothing - as has been mentioned by several here - that Beardy showed up post-TapeGate, i.e., when the shit really hit the fan in Tayto Land. Perhaps Beardy is WME's Showmance Whisperer.
>>824 It would be a poor decision. The best damage control for Tom right now would be to lay low for a while and keep his love life out of the public eye. I think the flirting article was either E! making up a story about "Taylor's ex" to get clicks, or a plant from Tom's team to combat the "Tom is sad and humiliated" tabloid stories. The fact that they are represented my the same agency makes me lean towards the latter, as it got both of their names (and multiple photos of her dress-twirling) in the press. I don't see it going any further than that, though.
>>824 I would hope he's learned his lesson (and a painful one at that) in regards to fauxmancing: Let the work be the public face, keep the private life as private as possible. You know, 'sacred' maybe!
Now if he could only learn the same lesson with his groomer and stylist - a painful lesson to make him change his ways, a Claire Danes level lesson.
>>825 I've always assumed the Beard is a nanny who chaperones naughty children. A Mr Fixit.
Surely the irony of referencing his permanent man- date as 'The Beard' is not lost on anyone..
>>827 Remember before TayTo, during the US promo tour, TH suddenly had a all the flashy suits. He hired the top stylist and makeup artist and plugged himself harder than ever. He was omnipresent.
SI casting for a bar scene shoot in NY this coming Sunday.
>>829 Always a good sign when the CEO of the network airing your latest and greatest oeuvre cracks light at your showmance. :/
>>830 Well, I guess it is only September and it's not meant to hit theatres until March, but The Peanut (as Anon unaffectionately calls him) flew that cast and crew to three continents over about six months, so it can't be a promising sign that they still need more material.
>>832 Reshoots happen after the first edit if the powers that be find a hole that needs filling. Considering Peanut shut down his social media a few weeks ago, I would imagine that is when the shit hit the fan.
Also, it may not be coincidental that TH followed quite a few SI cast members the day after the Emmys. They may have attended a pre- screening together.
Romantic what? Have they been inventing her private plane routes again?
>>825 They most likely have an area (or areas) of expertise based on their previous employ. Former agent or entertainment lawyer, something caused them to accumulate a huge network.
Long article about TayTo and conspiracy theories is apparently important to Vanity Fair: http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/09/taylor-swift-tom-hiddleston-celebrity-conspiracy-theories
The takeaway is that the immediacy of social media means the content has crossed over into mainstream media, regardless of how trashy. What was normally relegated to the National Enquirer is now part of the 6pm news. Which makes sense since, at some point starting 15 years ago or so, TV news divisions were taken over by the networks' entertainment divisions.
>>826 I feel the same way. I didn't think him and Taylor would happen after the MET gala but we all saw how that turned out. Maybe it was a tactic to get Priyanka's name and her show some more press and to make Tom look like a sexy desireable bachelor again. Or maybe it could be a longer con. Tbh, after this summer I don't know anymore lol
>>830,832 Bar scene in NYC (or pretending to be elsewhere) says to me "expository scene". In other words: plot implausibility and/or incomprehensible chaos that needs explaining in a scene where they all sit down with a beer and tell us what's happening. That in turn says to me that this project may be in trouble.
>>829,831 Ouch! That basically sounds like he was grateful the lead actor was such an imbecile but it was also embarrassing so he will pass at casting him again.
>>830,832,838 Calling it Shitty Island was prophetic. But then again, when Keaton and Simmons left the cast we all said it didn't look like JVR was good enough. SI will cost way more then $200m in the end and that's without counting promotion and press tour.
>>838 It's not just about box office though, it's also about what impression of you people walk away with. In that sense, even HR wasn't very good. And it wasn't exactly a critical success, the average of critics at Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritics is around 60%.
Rather than QUEEN Taylah, I think the jump in late ratings can be attributed to China. 40m isn't to be scoffed at and at least TH can say he's big in China
>>842 Or, after a stressful day of chasing humans, Kong needs a few beers to calm down.
Kong, Skulling Drinks Island: Memoirs of an Oversized Alcoholic Ape
I think Anon may be on to something. Nothing like a bartender and a patron to explain away plot holes. 'What's got you looking so blue, mister?' Asks the bartender as he wipes down the bar. 'Well, I thought a showmance would be - oh, wait, I'm acting.'
You ladies are on fire today. A great ape walks into a bar and says...
>>845 Hahahahahah! Suddenly Skull Island becomes a biopic for HiddleSwift.
>>845 I would LOVE to see J. K. Simmons as the acerbically witted bartender. Anon., you need to start writing this.
captcha says : slutt
If there's a Lord in the heavens, a TS song will be playing in the background of the bar...even if it's set in the 1970s. I'm down for that anachronistic mistake.
>>849 She can write one for the movie, called "We are never, ever, making our $200 million back on this movie."
I'm looking forward to the promo tour in which TH attempts to get deep and meaningful about a giant monkey movie. You know words like 'mythology' and 'reimagined' are going to be thrown around, along with 'anthropomorphic.'
>>842 I wonder if TH will start getting offers to do commercials in China. Big money, I hear.
Is that Jane Arthy behind Tom?
>>853,854 Face shape looks wrong to me. I think it's pre-Jarthy - a little too ancient.
Are you still hoping to make Richard II with Tom Hiddleston?
>>856 Again! James Ivory is TH's biggest fanboy. I remain sceptical. If TH wants to do it that much, he would have made time (especially since he hardly has a busy diary that we know of after Thor). TH has also never announced it or even I think mentioned it as a project he is interested in. I increasingly feel like JI is one of those annoying people you meet at a party and say "oh yeah, that sounds interesting", and the next thing you know they are trying to flog you shares in their company or whatever.
Bit of random gossip from a not necessarily reliable source: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/150816754278/hm-very-interesting-that-his-us-agent-meets-him
I mostly want to know what it is so I can publish it on tumblr and annoy the unbelievably clever one. She said on another post it was a novel.
>>858 I remember them all talking about The Scarlet Pimpernel some time ago.
Amazing how she acts like she knows something but knows nothing. Her arrogance (and Berlinale girl's) remains out of this world.
>>858 She's teasing a rumor after admonishing people to not during Tayto? Are there any clues to be had by looking at his Twitter or IG account?
I went ahead and anon messaged her my guess. I was wrong.
>>862 I saw that - wondered if it was you!
I haven't seen a thing on Twitter or IG about any new project for TH. She claims to be a film student and producer so maybe she has heard something on the grapevine. Or maybe not!
>>858 Bah! I gave a look at WME headquarters in LA and it looks nothing like that parking lot where TH was seen. It seems to me this is wishful thinking.
>>863 I had it wrong. I thought she was a freelance entertainment journalist.
Re: IG/Twitter, I was thinking more along the lines of him following people over the past 6 months that may leave a clue - a particular writer or director or producer?
>>863>>866 She calls herself a writer/ producer/ film student on her tumblr and Twitter. But I know she was parading herself as being in public relations in her earlier days. Which leads me to the natural conclusion of she's none of the above and just a stan parading as someone of importance in the entertainment world to be on the upper rungs in the hierarchy of the Hiddleston fandom.
>>858>>862 I'm guessing she's teasing the rumors about The Voyeur's Motel. There were some rumors floating earlier this year that since Sam Mendes wants to make it into a movie that Tom would be cast as the main character because it's a mix of Night Manager meets the sex of Laing or something like that. But it died out pretty fast because of a murder controversy surrounding the book and the author and who the main character is based off of. And then of course there were the Bond rumors and Hiddleswift.
>>868 I knew someone on here would know! I haven't been keeping up as I don't follow her (too nauseating). I hadn't heard the Voyeur's Motel rumour but it sounds like that is what she is spinning and that the murder stuff is the "controversy" she is alluding to.
>>868 The Voyeur's Motel rumor came from the Bond Reddit board, i.e., Sam Mendes shot an audition tape for Bond with TH because TH was going to star in Mendes' next film which was meant to be TVM (that seems to be up in the air because of a plagiarism/honesty issue with the book's author).
>>870 Forgot to add: The TVM rumor also led people to speculate that TH did in fact meet Mendes in London recently but that there was no Broccoli and he was meeting Mendes to talk TVM not Bond.
>>870 I gather the book is a piece of shit, even if any of it is true. Norman Mailer it ain't....
>>870 And the super clever one is full of shit also. How funny that she got this off Reddit. Not that I am remotely surprised, but it's nice to have it confirmed.
>>874 If it is the fishing hook she's casting, it most certainly came from the Bond reddit. I got the Bond info from someone whose main board is reddit; I posted it up thread or in #12. I didn't mention TVM then, but remember the reddit source mentioning it at the time.
>>875 Several people suggested it was TVM and strangely she has gone all quiet. Ha ha ha.
Crazy Smart (I think it was her) has in the past boasted about deducing his next project from SM follows and the like - always after the fact, of course. So if we assume she's using this same strategy and do likewise ourselves ...
>>876 That's the life of a busy film student/producer...always being pulled away from spreading rumors on tumblr.
>>877 Early May 16, right after the end of the "polishing the turd" publicity tour. The trouble is TH follows over a thousand people. Hard to extrapolate much from that.
>>877 PS I had a feeling Brian Grazer was at SDCC - or at least the 24 reboot was heavily trailed there. I assumed that was the reason for the follow.
>>879 You're right. As I said, the problem with taking anything from SM follows is...they're SM follows! I will say that he seems to follow more judiciously than in the past. He racked up a good number of follows quickly but has slowed down, probably a part of his step away from SM in general.
>>860 anonanon, are you new? Welcome if you are! Or welcome back if you've been here before but have been away.
If you want to reference a previous post, just click on the number of the post and it will show in the comment box.
>>882 Yes welcome! I had misread your handle for Anonon, but I see now that you are new (I think!!).
>>880 Was he there? That could be, although TH's follow was well before SDCC. Still maybe TH knew he'd meet him there and followed beforehand. Either way, Crazy Smart's sudden silence suggests TVM was her 'insider' info. And she can fuck right off with her 'I don't want to stir up controversy' bullshit. (Insert 'Sure, Jan' gif)
>>884 oh yes you said end of May. Duh. I thought it was July.
I have noticed that he often now follows people when the project he worked on with them actually comes out. Bizarre.
>>884 also Crazy Smart is calling it her "dream project". I know this got good reviews in the US but it was universally panned in the UK. The general view was that the emperor had no clothes, and that it was both pernicious and without artistic merit of any kind.
Thanks for the welcomes. Sorry about blasting in about that insanely smart person but she just irritates me TBH. Every fan should basically be on the same level and it shouldn't be a pissing contest.
Have been enjoying lurking your board :)
>>887 Don't apologize; you are not alone. Both of them annoy 95% of fans, and 100% of posters here.
>>886 There's no accounting for taste. If it is TVM she's talking about, then it might be her 'dream project' for a number of reasons. Maybe she thinks it's the sort of nitty-gritty, Oscar-winning role that TH was made for. Yes, this http://4-ch.net/img/src/1474678654993.gif was made to play a sexual deviant.
>>889 Yes, she has confessed, now a lot of people have guessed.
Meanwhile I saw on her tumblr that Berlinale Girl has found out that the blonde that TH was photographed with in a cafe just before the Emmys is a journalist. Berlinale is castigating her for stalking TH by hanging out in a cafe waiting to meet him - this being the woman who waited outside the Donmar for a fan encounter and chased TH down the street!!
>>887 It's always a pleasure when someone delurks and says "I've been here for ages!"
>>890 Waited for him, chased him, and let's not forget the incident that gave her the nickname "Berlinale" in the first place. It's amazing how she misses the irony.
The journalist's name is Amy Price, and she interviewed the Thor cast weeks ago. She's now written an article about the DM's mystery blonde story.
>>890,892 Again, not breaking news from Crazier of Crazy and Crazier duo, insiders that they aren't. TCM actually responded to the DM's article with a tweet with that info and several comments in the DM article mentioned she was a journo.
>>890 Chased him down the street? What? I hadn't heard that. I thought she had just defended the naughty fan behavior, not actually been a part of it. How was she let into the TNM screening? Shouldn't TH's people be handing out her picture to security?
>>894 I don't think TH has steady security since early 2014, when it was Faisel (sp?) the driver/security guy, so no idea who's been watching out for him since.
Hahahahaha! Makes a change from the usual blind items!
>>896 LOL! Is this his way of making up for all the jet fuel he burned over the summer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6oIYQpvGs from 19:00.
I guess it's good that he's being mocked for something other than a failed showmance.
>>896 Colin Firth seems the better guess as his wife is all about the environment. She has an environmentally aware fashion label and only wears environmentally friendly outfits (whatever that means) on the RC.
TH maybe does the same but I've found most guys do with pee - it's just a little pee and no TP in the bowl!
PC and TH backstage at the Emmys - this link cuts directly to them. They're on camera for about 2 mins, PC much more animated and flirty than TH, then someone comes by to probably tell them it's time for them to present and the camera cuts to the press room. The sitting lady in beige to the left of PC is looking her up and down.
I love this man
Good to see him letting off some steam
>>902 Also from that same tumblr is a post with pictures and even more info about the WME guy who was with TH in Australia and at the Emmys, to add to what's been discussed here:
Oh hello Mr Gucci
>>904 Well I'm not surprised. I have expected him to get an advertising gig for a while, as he does wear a suit very well. We must pray that there are no men's cologne ads (a la Johnny Depp).
Every high end menswear ad campaign of the last 10 years has looked like it sprang from the imagination/loins of Tom Ford's secret love child with Elton John. So I am not surprised at the slippers, the dog etc.
God, I just zoomed in on the last pic. The spotty suit with the man Mary Janes. I am speechless.
>>905,906 I was initially more affronted by the fur leather and lion slippers but now you mention it, the man mary- janes are quite something with those Fauntleroy socks.
The juxtaposition between these images and his real home life is hilarious.
Those slippers actually made me laugh out loud. How is it that he has more chemistry with the dog than TS? Did we see that soulful look at any time during Tayto?
Yep, GQ is taking the piss (don't whisper it near the veranda) and in what appears to be a quasi advertisement for Gucci and its designer.
The photoshoot in underpants brought him ridicule so they decided that an effete dandy was the best he could pull off, but once again he looks ridiculous. What's this habit of pairing him with dogs all the time anyway?
I bet Luke is crying that GQ doesn't consider his client as a favourite exempt from mockery.
whuds goin on in dis dreahd boys
is 4-ch alive?
what the fuck is doing on
"Tom texted me saying he wanted to wear a Gucci tux with piping because Gucci had told him to wear a Gucci tux with piping."
PS anyone think he is looking very skinny at the moment? Torrilla has a pic of him sitting down with Hugh Laurie at the Emmys and he looks ISTL levels of skinny around the jaw. she also has a pic of him in profile in his dinner jacket (where he is getting into a car with beardy weirdy in the background) and he is pencil slim.
"It’s tempting to imagine this richly hued mise-en-scene captioned with the words: “Mr Hiddleston and Ms Taylor Swift welcome you to their tasteful bedroom.” The text might then go on to say something like: “The dynamic power couple, shown here locking eyes after signing their nondisclosure agreement, are enjoying some time away from their busy careers, in their palatial Lake Como mansion.”....
"As for Hiddleston, who always seems as if he’s been beamed into the modern world by a malfunctioning teleporter" hahaha
As I said, the result reaches new levels of ridiculousness.
>>908 The slippers and the Mary Janes lol Well at least the suits are nice. Every single fashion mag covering this Gucci shoot and announcement is enjoying making fun of Hiddleswift in it. The stink of the TayTo summer is going to stick with him for a while longer. Gucci or no Gucci.
For what shall it profit a man, if he gain a Gucci contract, and suffer the loss of his dignity, credibility, 1/3 of his fan base, the respect of journalists, his privacy - shit, this list never ends.
Will Gucci keep him around if this is the press they're getting? Sure, people are writing articles about Gucci and showing the clothes, but the piss taking is harsh! Will they want the model and campaign ridiculed like this?
>>912 Clenchng your jaw for two months straight while you hold back the screams/tears until your face is in a pillow would account for the slimline jaw.
Running everyday to relieve stress and being off your food because you'd made the biggest mistake of your life would account for the slimline body.
>>913 A more laughable and unlikely headline: Ms Swift welcomes Mr Hiddleston to her bedroom.
>>909 Just looked at the photos for the first time and Couch, your words popped right into my head before I read them. I haven't even gotten around to the commentary articles.
>>918 Maybe she's been hitting the champagne a little too hard but according to the veranda lady Esquire, The Guardian, and GQ are all praising the whole thing.
I showed the photos to Mr Anon, who I hasten to add is a metrosexual Londoner sufficiently in touch with his feminine side to own a flowery Etro shirt. One might think he was the target market for this particular ad campaign....
Mr Anon's response: "Why is he with those faggy dogs?"
>>922 Most people on CB are however saying that (a) the shoes are terrible and the styling is at best effete; and (b) that he looks dead, at least behind the eyes and possibly literally. My favourite comment was that he looks like one of those Victorian death photos where they dress the corpse and prop it up on the sofa. Once seen, this cannot be unseen.
>>924 I was thinking wax figure meets Noel Coward but yeah....
>>922 The delusion is strong in this one. STRONG.
>>923 Raise your hand if you love Mr Anon. (Raises hand) I'm going to assume the dogs were later shorn of their locks in order to make TH a beautiful, blonde hairpiece. Look for it during promo for Shit (Shit, We Don't Have Enough Material) Island. Yes, two 'shits.'
>>922 Did we ever give you a proper greeting, Name?(?) If not, welcome!!
And so it begins. Did Gucci not see this coming? http://4-ch.net/img/src/1474924618954.png
>>928 Thank you! I'm really shy (even online) and have been a lurker for a little while. I tried testing the TH fandom waters on CB and oh boy was that uh...jarring. I really like this thread though :)
>>930 Welcome de-lurker. I can't even read CB any more, they've sucked the fun right out of it.
Michael K does it again!
Twitter is mistaking the hounds for TS
>>929 Nope - the photoshoot was allegedly in May and scheduled for the October issue, before Tayto was a thing. Guess they didn't have the power to pull it.
>>929 Does the "I [heart] T.S." in this case mean "I [heart] These Slippers"?
>>923,926 Raises hand! Of course, without the dogs the effect instead of effete dandy would be whiny spoiled mama-boy brat.
The problem really is him, with someone like (much as I can't stand him) Vincent Cassel or evevn Luke Evans it would have worked better.
>>933 I wonder when. I thought he was back in the UK for most of May. I can't remember whether he flew to the US before early June for TayTo.
>>937 I looked back to the May board. He returned to the UK after the Met Gala, appeared at a school, the Globe, was spotted with Mendes, with JA, at that private members' club near Susannah Lipscomb. Not a single sighting at an airport. I wonder if he filmed this last thing before leaving LA in very early May. That does jive with the time he was using the services of the new US publicist, the stylist, the groomers etc. Also broadly with the time he shot the W mag thing.
>>939 Either that or just before that comic-con in Philadelphia.
>>940 I forgot about that. FWIW Hollywood Life says it was shot in July.
According to Berlinale (who will keep drifting across my dash via others even though I have blocked her), anyone who laughs at these pics don't know nuthin bout fashone. They aren't aimed at low lifes like us, people, so we should just butt out (who are they aimed at, then?). Especially, and I quote directly, we should stop using the shoot as an excuse "to hate on him and especially Luke." So there.
>>942 I was sitting here thinking I disliked the photoshoot because I don't feel Tom fits with Gucci's over-the-top image and terrible shoes, but thanks to Berlinale I now know that I'm just a hater with no style who thinks everything is Luke's fault. Thanks, Berlinale!
>>942 Bahahaha how I love thirdhand advice from a woman who has never worked on a high fashion shoot with a celebrity, let alone any facet of the industry.
To be honest, my house looks a lot like the Gucci set, it's an aesthetic I adore but I'm a woman with an eccentric and eclectic wardrobe and a lot of male friends who dress like this ad. TH, as we all know, lives in a rather modest house wearing the same dour clothes every day. It's incongruous enough to warrant hearty chuckles.
>>944 Blaming Luke for bad choices in TH's life (starting in May)? Doesn't make sense, because neither one of them got to pick the clothes. But no Berlinale, I won't stop thinking that bad choices have been made as of late by a certain publicist.
>>942 pffft I'm not laughing at the clothes, I'm laughing at his terrible execution as model. I worked in fashion, do people think that models dress like they do on the catwalk? They do not, but it's their job to make clothes interesting when they wear them. The photoshoot looks ridiculous because TH doesn't have the features and charisma for it and because of what he did this summer, how he dresses every day is beyond the point. In every day talk he hardly speaks like in a Shakespearian play, would that be a good excuse not to play a Shakespearian character well? No.
I agree with all of this. He is not a great model, the styling is all wrong for him, and yes he does look like a twink. I am also however laughing at some of the clothes. We all know that some of the fashion in adverts or on the catwalk is more directional than many people would wear. Equally there is a line between directional and hideous. Man Mary Janes with a huge carbuncle of a buckle, worn with white tights, are over that line in my view.
>>948 you are so right -inspiring desire is what it's all about, which makes the "not for you" argument even more ridiculous. The ads are meant to make everyone want a piece of the designer even if it "just" the perfume or a wallet (which for many fashion houses is where the money actually is). If it makes people fall about laughing it hasn't done its job.
>>949 I for one went out and immediately bought a pair of bright white socks and an Afghan hound.
>>950 I am too poor for that but I am training my pet rabbit to lie across my feet and pretend to be slippers. It's all about the aspiration!
>>950 I hope your hound is wearing the socks
>>946,947,948 Couch is right, the best models are a dream to watch in action. They simply do not take a bad shot.
I'm a little surprised how passive TH is as a model, he is so animated on film, yet it seems he completely surrenders and acknowledges he's out of his league working in print.
>>952 I think it has something to do with not being in a specific character as well. Photos taken to publicise a production are posed but they are beautiful - for example a lot of the CP ones, in which he certainly doesn't look dead-eyed. He also looked utterly gorgeous and unfazed when posing almost naked for the HR sun lounger publicity shot. But when he is himself or playing a "character" created for one day for a Gucci shoot, he sometimes loses the thread. The W mag pics were him naked, not Laing or Sharpe or whoever and he clearly felt uncomfortable with that, even though he loves showing us his beautiful body when in character.
>>953 Exactly. If the suits were more classic, something he would wear himself he would have felt more comfortable in them. I'm sure he hated them as much as I did.
The only way he would feel comfortable in this type of clothes would be if he were posing as a character.
Regarding the W mag white-boxers shoot earlier this year and the female photographer - I wonder what she did say, if anything. And if she did, why didn't it work? She couldn't say "pretend you're trying to hit on me or person X" to get the come-hither look?
>>955 'Look like I'm holding you hostage.' Snap, snap. 'Yes, that's it. You are alone, frightened. Now take off your clothes. Good. Don't forget I'm holding a gun.' Snap, snap. 'Is your willy trying to crawl inside your body? Excellent. Let's see that on your face.' And W magazine perfection was born.
As for Berlinale: lady, fuck off, fuck the fuck right off. I'm content knowing she made an ass out of herself in front of her prince and is widely considered the worst apple in the whole bushel. Her words and actions are nothing but derisible.
>>956 Don't forget that the hostage situation involved a giant dildo, hence the "what are you about to do with that?" expression in the underpants photos.
I do think that the W problem had a lot to do with the near nudity in a non acting context, combined with a lack of any kind of story or styling. Usually there is some "story" to take away from the voyeuristic element - eg Idris Elba in a boxing ring. This was all rather grimly transactional - let's have a look at Tom in his knickers, standing in a hotel room because - well, because we all want to have a look at Tom almost naked and showing us the outline of his willy. He wasn't even given a change of clothes to style the shoot up a bit - he was papped at the hotel where the shoot took place in the same suit and shirt, which were his. They literally slapped a bit of makeup on him and told him to take his trousers off and stand there.
>>956 Yeah, and he is following Hiddlesfashion now, so the ass-kissing WORKED!
I think that these days she has to kiss ass to get the ID on his clothes. In the old days it wasn't such a fast moving target. New cardigan? No worries, we have 2 years and 500 wears to ID it.
When is Yvonne arriving?
"She gave me Instagram followers and I made people believe she could breathe with her mouth closed."
I love it when satire reaches three levels deep to a sex joke,
>>960 Oh that's the best one yet! LOL! "Oh, I wanted Bond. I could taste it, like fine wine licked off the belly of an Italian heiress in the midday Riviera sun."
Ah if only Tom would've dated an Italian heiress or ANY heiress instead of the tweeny pop star, the famewhoring and the thirst could've had some sexiness to it.
>>960 This is the best! LOL The caption for that photoshoot should have said just that.
That TLO article is the best thing I've read in ages. Bloody hilarious.
For those who thought his photoshoots couldn't become even more questionable, meet TOUGH AS A FEATHER; LEATHER TOM DOES 70s GAY PORN and some kinda prison mugshot.
>>965 Are those leather dungarees he is wearing in the shot after the prison guard photo? Without anything under?
This is the "Tom does an impression of every member of the Village People" photo shoot.
I am eager to see Berlinale's defense of these photos.
>>965 Photos first: neo-nazi fashion, how lovely. And I'm not even making fun, SS it's all I could think about. Yuck.
>>965 Interview, Anon. I need your sense of humour because I don't think I can sum up this piece of shitty interview as it deserves, they spend the whole time complimenting each other.
On the bright side, veranda woman is probably seething because she hates Cumbersome and, like with EO in Hawaii, she pretends TH is not best friend with him, even if TH attended his wedding, so there's that.
>>970 They did, right? At first I thought maybe I was just being cynical but the whole time it's just a bunch of patting each other on the back for their accolades. Tom says nothing he hasn't already said before though the Sudan experience was new for me. And also building roads to carry equipment for Skull Island in Vietnam. I stopped reading his interviews during HiddleSwift because it was a load of shit so I don't know if he mentioned all this before.
>>969 The photoshoot is odd and yeah, very neo-nazi...Not liking it. Only redeeming aspect is that he modeled better in this shoot than the Gucci and W one. Probably was channeling all that anger he felt when no one believed his "authentic" relationship captured by "phones with cameras on them".
>>972 I skimmed a good bit of the interview, but I quit reading altogether at the "unsolicited photos" line. I scoffed and got annoyed and didn't care to finish.
I'm actually afraid to click to the article. Will the modicum of appreciation I have for the man survive? Will it harm the baby? I'm fan-ing for two, I can't just think about myself.
>>967 Leather overalls? Good Lord in heaven, why are you testing us? I've replaced alcohol with cake so I might need to wait until I have a slice or two in me before I read the article.
>>974 He could have very easily not said a word about HiddleSwift and avoided the topic completely but of course the public must be told how the couple was just so famous and the paparazzi just kept invading their personal space and hounded them every second of their relationship taking "unsolicited photographs". Such a pathetic attempt at constructed fame.
>>978 And also insult the readers, for expecting questions about it, followed by complementing each other for the umpteenth time.
>>975 I suggest a slice for after, just to be safe. The baby will probably develop a sixth sense for pretentiousness.
>>974 Did TH say that? Fucker, DO.NOT. Your weak Jedi mind trick isn't going to work on us, on most. We remember what went on, we remember you pap trolled most of your summer away, AND involved your family.
He needs to not mention photos or privacy for a good, long time.
>>972 Read before you post, Anon.! So Cucumberbitch said 'unsolicited.' TH, you're forgiven - this, and only this.
Still, MK, come on in!
>>981 It was Cumberbatch who said it, which made it seem like even more of a setup to me - it wasn't Tom making his ridiculous camera phone statements while he was caught off-guard. I'm going to borrow Couch's very appropriate word choice - I felt insulted.
>>982 I went straight to dlisted after seeing the photos. I just know Michael K will have something to say about them.
>>979 They do think most of us are like a certain subsect of their fandom that will believe anything and everything they say or imply. Even the media was calling those pictures staged. Only the mags that were getting the exclusive deals were fawning.
The actual leader of the CB ladies (not verandah lady tho she tries very hard) called it #epicfail. Lol! So far no one is loving the shoot or the interview itself but it's less than 50 comments in. Tumblr seems to be the only one loving the whole thing.
People took the unsolicited but and ran with it, and now all the Swifties are calling him out on using her for fame, that she's never mentioned him at all publicly and is staying private, yet he continues to talk about their relationship despite it being over. Scroll to the comments below to get a flavor. http://www.people.com/article/tom-hiddleston-taylor-swift-benedict-cumberbatch-interview
>>985 It was an obvious setup, which adds insult to injury.
Nothing like drooling over an unnatural photoshopped cover.
I clicked. Those pics made me laugh more than the Gucci slippers. I understand the whole concept of modeling being a passive activity with the photographer and stylist and creative director being the 'directors' of the shoot. But these pics are comic, just comic. It really should be as simple as saying, 'No, you're not going to make me out to be a budget neo-Nazi biker from a leather fetish gay porn movie. Come up with another idea.' He cannot say 'no' to bad fashion advice: t-shirts, fur slippers, leather coveralls.
>>988 I can't quite figure out what they did to his face there. Is it the chin?
>>987 They are partly right though, Cumbersome apologies to us ignorant third state for not going to ask about a subject he himself brought up in the middle of an interview when there was no need to mention it. Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta.
Anon may be the only person to get this but all I can think of is Herr Flick. Herr Flick, Herr Flick. Which makes me think TH would be perfect for an Allo, Allo reboot. He now has the wardrobe.
>>990 Anonon will correct me if I'm wrong, it seems they lowered his cheekbones with those shadows and covered the forehead of his. And his eyebrows, less droopy.
>>993 I was looking at the wrong photo - the one where he's seated in the chair is where I think his chin has been edited. In the actual cover photo, definitely the eyebrows and forehead, and the nose too. I can't decide if the cheekbones are photoshopped or if they just look odd because of the lighting and the fact that the rest of his face has been altered.
>>991 Oh no, they're completely right. After this summer, he shouldn't even try parading the privacy angle anymore. Uniess he was being blackmailed by Taylor, he embraced the constructed publicity shamelessly and wholeheartedly.
>>994 Yes the chin was made rounder and maybe slightly shorter. I'm the same about the cheekbones int he other photo.
>>987,991 This is called apophasis: mentioning something by saying you won't mention it. Cicero used the shit out of it during the Philippics and the Pro Caelio. Cucumberbitch must be a classical scholar. :/
I love that he mentions it to, seemingly, deny the constructed nature of this relationship and how it was present to the public, but really does TH a disservice by bringing it up at all. Those who didn't believe are reminded of his frankly terrible behavior during Tayto. Those who believed - Swifties - accuse him of using the relationship and her for publicity. Naked in a thorn bush - no move is a good move.
>>997 Naked in a thorn bush is a D/s themed photoshoot I could get behind.
Tom wears a leather flasher mac - not so much.
I cannot WAIT to show these to Mr Anon. What will his reaction be?
Quite a feat, Mr. H, to appear on both ends of the fashion spectrum in one week. Effete dandy to leather daddy. Now I'm sure this CDAN entry was about the former: http://crazydaysandnights.net/2016/09/blind-item-5-1105.html
This foreign born A- list dual threat actor not named Cumberbatch who just went through a recent press disaster, got to feel fulfilled when he was able to cross dress while shooting a new ad campaign. It was subtle, but he loved it.