Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
What TS was saying with the LWYMMD video, according to one of her official organs, People: http://people.com/music/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-slams-haters-criticism/
I had to laugh, after the paragraph claiming they were relentlessly mocked about the shirt and I was thinking "that's disingenuous to think that viewers wouldn't see that segment as mocking Tom" - then the next section of the article talks about her addressing her rep for being disingenuous!
>>999 The nannies said the same when he actually wore the shirt, that they were mocking the media and being oh so clever and meta. It didn't apply then and doesn't now.
>>994 This will die down but the possible diss track scuttlebutt will flare up right around TR promo and release time. I wonder if Marvel will give him a pass given the situation and after Thor 2 promo. He shouldn't hide away but maybe let CH and MR do the vast majority, it seems this might be their approach anyway.
Here's the cold hard truth for the nannies on Tumblr and Celebitchy: nearly a year after their breakup (contract ended) their names are still attached, their relationship is still media fodder, he's still being mocked as a result of it.
And the DM picks up the story....
>>2 God, she is unspeakable, and explaining it in People makes it no better. I was wondering when the litany of "people who vaguely criticised Taylor" was going to end. Will we get a video about the person who took the last space in the elevator when she had heavy shopping?
>>7 Best shade of her on tumblr - "immature poop star." Whether deliberate or typo, it sums up her video and general level of classlessness.
>>5 Fans are annoyed that the video mocked TH and K Kardashian's robbery at gunpoint in the tub w a gun.
>>9 Based on the top comments, I'd say it's the opposite. They seem to support it, going so far as to accuse the DM of disliking her for the negative headline.
Again she plays the victim and then the empowered female taking revenge, and it works, not fully, but works. Blurgh.
Quick run down of twitter.
This is from a search I set up last night after the video aired. I blocked her name and Hiddleswift and limited it to only English language tweets. Even then there are 3,000+ this morning.
I'm more appalled at how she's monetizing every single thing, from the collab deals to the merch to how she's using Reputation paraphernalia to generate higher album sales. Ugh talk about the revolting side of naked greedy capitalism. She's basically pulling a pyramid scheme on her fans and they don't see it at all. That's how she makes it to these top selling lists and makes her fanbase appear bloated. Lucky she has her financially cunning mom and dad who are the ones coming up with these schemes while she sits and draws in her burn book surrounded by her cats.
>>13 She's even selling pieces of the wooden floor that the male dancers danced on wearing the TH heart tank tops, with her signature on them! The good news is that dlisted came through!
>>14 W o w...floorboards, wow. Is she gonna market the air from the studio during the shoot next? I really believe her fans are too sense to see what she's doing. It's the exact same formula as her previous albums with amped up visuals (yes that includes all the new work she got done) with just as an aggressive promotion as 1989. There's no new Taylor lol
E! Online using Tom's GQ article statement that he chose to wear the I heart TS TS shirt as fair game for TS selling the heart tops. Playing along with TS in the puppy dog article by taking the high road only hurt his rep. Her name must never cross his lips again. Why doesn't he have a crisis PR team? I fear that tv and online series and theater will be the only jobs open to him in the near future unless he has some unknown career strategy planned.
An OP on ONTD called them 'Tom Hiddleston Shirts' and I'm howling. Not the marketing TH wants.
It all looks to me like she doesn't give a fuck anymore. She's on the bridge, she's burning the bridge, she's torpedoing the bridge, she's trying to sell the bridge. Which must make TH nervous. If she DGAF, well then she isn't really thinking about who's on the bridge and what might happen to them.
>>16 You've said this before, Sosorry, but I wonder what good a 'crisis' PR team can do. If, as we suspect, he's somewhat limited in what he can say or do by a contract/non-disclosure, then any PR strategy is equally limited. He certainly can't fight fire with fire (as much as he may wish), she has the victim act down to a science.
>>16 And here I was thinking earlier that the press coverage of this was fairly neutral towards him (USA Today even called him "poor T. H." For her dragging of him)....
Her mouthpiece People continues selling that this was a job at those who mocked Tom last summer. From what I've seen, there are about as many people who believe that as believe the snogging on the rocks pictures weren't prearranged.
Did the Independent like Tom before Tayto? Because they just called him "that poor git" for getting "tangled up with her": http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/taylor-swift-new-video-vmas-made-a-video-everyone-talk-about-it-a7916921.html
>>18 Its just that I'm just a little sad, from a distance. There probably is no short term PR solution, now. Sosorry to repeat myself. Tom made the most foolish mistake he could make in Hollywood, that is the easiest mistake not to make in the world. He either needs a miracle offer from a director or a producer with whom he's worked before, or a Heath Ledger-like or Colin Farrell-like gradually rebuilding of his film career, brick by brick. Or maybe just do theatre for 2.5 to 3 seasons, and win back the critics in London. My dear.
>>20 The Independent has been favourable of TH since they first wrote about him in 2006.
>>21 I had been thinking a Colin Farrell rebuilding, he who came back from far worse, a sex-tape scandal and some drinking/brawling incidents, but did so before the current celebrity Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/tumblr social media landscape. Tom's best bet is to keep is mouth shut. No comments to anyone, anywhere. Same advice to anyone who gets a mic shoved into their face about Taylor - let her drown in her own immaturity and ridiculousness. Rise above her antics.
>>21 I didn't mean to suggest that you're babbling on! Far from it. I just meant to say that you've mentioned it before as a possible step or solution for TH but that I didn't know if it was really a viable option given the situation. Certainly no need for apologies. It could be an option, maybe he's done it and we'll see something from him.
>>21 >>22 My FIL recently gifted me the McCullough John Adams bio and the HBO series based on it. I said a quick NO to the book, which is a doorstop. We've been watching the mini-series and teaching the little one to be a patriot (That's how you throw tea into the harbour! That's how you sign the Declaration of Independence!). Paul Giamatti did this work after his nominations and awards for Cinderella man and other 'big' movie roles. It's genius work, he's genius in it. He then went on to do a mix of movies and tv.
>>21, >>23 When crisis PR management could have helped the most was during Tayto and right after the GGs, I think, but Tom probably didn't see the need or was resistant to the idea. I do get the feeling that some intervention was staged before the KSI promo tour because he behaved so differently than his usual exuberan/extra self. And RadHam was a savvy move (especially because the ballot approach to ticketing is now in such contract to TS's money grubbing).
>>24 I really, really like Paul Giamatti's work! But you're spot on that for TH to have that kind of career, he'd have to change his path. PG has never been the square-jawed leading man type that Tom seems to aspire to be.
>>24 Perhaps he could get a WW1 period romance HBO movie, like Parade's end for Cumberbatch, or like Eddie Redmayne did in Birdsong for the BBC. Everyone would swoon. Easy Emmy nom. With a Shakespearean production on television in the US, he would walk away with a nom for sure.
>>24 Paul Giamatti is brilliant. Nuanced. Even more so than Tom Hardy. John Adams was fantastic. Please seek out and watch Billions if you haven't. I've always gotten the impression our TH has the range that he needs to dig as deep and as broad as his peers who have Oscar noms and wins (BC, ER, THardy). But his ego made him decide to take a narrow path into a tight leading man box that's so limiting and shallow. Paul Giamatti career is a fantastic example. The late Philip Seymour Hoffman.
I love Paul Giametti. Thought he was so good in Billions.
Either lead in that series would have been a great coup for TH - I've said before that he would be lucky to have made the tv choices that Damian Lewis made (Band of Brothers, Homeland etc).
>>30 Rufus Sewell's name didn't ring a bell for me, but as soon as I googled him and saw his picture -- he is so good in Victoria! Yes, it's a frock coat, but a very classy one. (Now I have many more things to add to my to-watch list....)
>>30, >>30 And interestingly enough, he says "it was always films I wanted to do — but I've kind of changed my mind ... I prefer theater now to film, certainly, because I get much better roles." TH should pay attention! http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511886261/cast-as-brooding-leads-rufus-sewell-says-his-real-talent-is-comedy
Miss TS has just labelled TH as a past"high profile fling", and claims that she felt like her personal life was spinning out of control with him. Hmm...then she should stop calling the paps and fauxmaning for PR, in general. What a crock!
>>33 Just logged in to post that link. Miss Thang is a piece of work.
This is karma sneaking back up to TH from early 2013 ElleUK's 'nothing to write home about' statement.
>>33 LOL! Why meet the parents if it was just a fling? Walks on the beach with the family but it was just a fling lol
My flings don't even know if I have a family much less meet them or hang out with them.
And what was all that gushy bogus shit Tom was saying about her to Josh and Taffy? Lol! A fling! HA!
By the way, I just googled to see what he's been up to since The Man in The High Castle and it turns out he played Alexander Hamilton in the John Adams miniseries that Anon. mentioned. So there you are - you can watch Paul Giametti and Rufus Sewell in the same frame while pondering TH's bad career choices! One for my watch list, definitely.
>>38 I can't wait to see how Hamlet turns out! Hopefully a reviewer won tickets, and we get a balanced and fair review, and not just swooners. Hollywoodlife is trolling Tom to deny to gossipcop. HL claims that Tom thinks being in the video is great because now he is a part of legendary music history...sure Jan. Tom is probably getting his mind and body prepped for Hamlet by running up and down the stairs, backstage at the theater : )
##39 A different rag and source for TH's reaction to her video: "he feels like an idiot for going anywhere near her" - http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/taylor-swift-feuds-140672
Looking forward to anything we hear about RadHam!
>>40 Is this rag friendly to Luke or anti-Taylor in general? Even though it's cool to say out loud that he's made a mistake, that's a hell of a dig at her.
>>38 The fling statement she made: if I'm not mistaken this is the first time she's said anything remotely referential to sex.
>>39 And here's the Gossip Cop response to that HL story. Dancing around the " the shirt was a joke" content by referring back to the GQ article. They're more righteously announced by the rag making up a source. https://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-reaction-taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-made-up/
>>41 It was the one plugging that the Tayto twins were talking marriage, so not anti-Taylor or pro-Luke/Tom's PR. Yeah, having an "industry source" quoted as saying that "Now he sees her as a desperate attention-seeker” could rebound on Tom. Be interesting to see if Gossip Cop addresses it.
The reviews are coming in from Thursday night's dress rehersal and they're good:
@StephenGreif : Terrificly vibrant , Pacey production of Hamlet at RADA, directed by Ken Branagh with Tom Hiddleston and great company in every dept. Bravo.
I am glad he had good "reviews".
Interesting though that they have managed to get the theatrical great and good in for free tickets somehow (though no space for critics, strangely!!). I had wondered whether/how they would do that. The dress rehearsal is the answer. Looks like it was a gala evening with canapés laid on. Not really a true dress rehearsal where the gravedigger finds someone left the skull backstage. It's effectively free ticket night by another name and the real dress rehearsal was the night before.
>>47 It might have been iwith paid tickets, though, for existing or potential RADA donors. They could even have charged extra for the tickets, especially if the attendees were ablle to meet the cast and Sir Ken. But yes, it' seems they shut out the critics.
>>47, >>48 Found this quote on the crazy clever one from the FB post of someone who attended last night - sounds like a donor event indeed: "FB: Oh wow! What an evening I've had. [...] Thank you Derek Smith for inviting me to a wonderful evening and a fantastic production of Hamlet. The evening started with champagne and nibbles and short talks in the building that used to be the Drill Hall. Then we all trouped across to RADA and another drink and thenthe play. The after party with deserts back at Drill Hall with members of the cast amidst drinks and exciting sweet concoctions. Chatted with Kenneth Branagh and Tom Hiddleston."
I'm not willing to call a tweet which employs a skull emoji a 'review.' And the phrase 'beautifully realized' is as hackneyed as they come.
I don't doubt it's very good, and I don't doubt he's very good in it. It's breadbasket for both KB and TH, and tailor made for their respective talents. That was never the issue. The issue, at least for me, was the calculated nature of this in terms of his re-creding process. The evening of nibbles, champagne and chats with the talent but minus actual professional critics does nothing to address that issue.
>>49 How many of these have come out? Are the interwebs flooded with praise, I.e., was RADA's champagne budget put to good use?
That's why I called it a "review" and not a review.
"very lucky to see a dress run of #radahamlet this week. a really strong company, clear and immediate storytelling. thank you! @RADA_London"
plus the one Heynon cited at >>49
So basically this show is for new RADA students to get noticed by industry types; basically an audition. And TH to get his "serious actor" cred back more then the "charity" itself. With "reviews" from probably Kenneth's theater friends and a sprinkle of TH stans.
A few interesting and not wholly intentional revelations in this interview with a RADA bod: https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2017/sep/01/tom-hiddleston-plays-hamlet-london-ticket
No critics so as to maximise revenue (even though it is not all about the money!)
It's the "grief Hamlet" (I bet!)
>>51 Haven't found any new tweets about the final dress/real opening night/whatever the heck that was. It's possible, of course, that many of those attending aren't much for social media. (The few who did tweet weren't generally exactly household names!)
No it doesn't. Article says Branagh became President 18 months ago. Article also says that Kemp recalls talking to Branagh about directing a show, but Kemp does not say when that conversation took place. Could have been immediately after Branagh became President or could have been 3 months ago.
>>59 Sorry, "Branagh rang Kemp back a week after...etc"
It's a good pic. Is the ripped t shirt Hamlet's rended black garment or Tom's normal rehearsal gear?
The text says something about the production having started yesterday (i.e. today) and that tickets are sold out. It suggests there is an article inside as there is an arrow pointing to a 5 in a circle. Possibly the article linked to above?
Front page of the Telegraph: https://lolawashere.tumblr.com/post/164873575827/front-page-of-tomorrows-telegraph-newspaper
>>63 So his clothes have melded to his body. Ditto with the shoes. Great. :(
>>58 The syntax is vague. Anon is correct. Had it read 'Branagh became president of Rada about 18 months ago and Kemp recalled talking with him then about directing a show' the timing would be more concrete. As it reads now, it isn't.
>>63 This isn't the grief Hamlet, it's the Johnny Cash Hamlet! Oh no, he's going to bring out the guitar and sing about missing his daddy.
@MatthewLumby's twitter is a good read, a lot of tweets in a long Hamlet thread. He's the one who commented on the boots.
Many other tweets together. TH sings and plays piano at the beginning:
The Guardian critic got a ticket - https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/sep/02/hamlet-review-lucky-few-see-tom-hiddleston-combine-sweet-sadness-with-incandescent-fury
>>71 And the Times critic saw it as well:
I've used up my Times views for the week, so please jump in if there's anything significant said.
>>72 So the Times review said they got their ticket thru the ballot like everyone else. IF that's true, maybe the Times had every employee submit a ballot in order to produce a winner who could then "gift" the tix to the critic.
More audience reviews (interviewed after the show), including one who didn't think TH was great: https://www.yahoo.com/style/tom-hiddleston-apos-apos-mesmerising-002707294.html
Given that 75% of the audience appears to be female I suppose casting women as Horatio, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern was appropriate!
The reviews have reminded me that Kenneth Branagh is a fine director. I am disappointed that this won't see the light of day to any meaningful number of people. It would be well worth it even with another actor in the lead.
More detailed than the first two. But like them, barely reviewing any performance other than TH's.
Pictures from the program: twitter,com/disneycastle88/status/903784267544657922/photo/2
Nice of RADA to open this on a US holiday weekend when one can make time to pay attention to this!
OK, last one. About the two recent RADA grads in the show and more about the lottery reasoning, with some quiet dissing of hardcore fans: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170902/281479276557276
>>82 It is good that some of the less well known actors got a look in.
As to the "certain people will be on the internet" diss - well, I am not so sure that the audience is significantly less composed of uber fans by having the ballot.
By the way, as career rehabilitation it seems to be working like a dream. It feels
like there is wall to wall coverage of him and (to a lesser degree) the production in the broadsheet press. Last week they were full of TS summer fluff broadsheet articles. They have all vanished. Nobody's mentioned TS in any article or review I've seen (I wouldn't put British journalists past this). Juvenile diss track with indifferent reviews has been completely eclipsed by genuine artistic endeavour with great reviews. Hats off the KB and TH for that.
>>84 Agreed, though I did see a couple of non-review articles this AM that spent more time on Tayto and the tshirt than on Hamlet (Metro UK was one, I think the DM was another.)
>>85 The DM doesn't surprise me. I suspect that will be how he is represented from now until he does something else that enables the DM to pigeonhole him. Before TS it was revealing his bum in "saucy scenes" on tv.
However I felt TH was really in the career doodoo when he was on the front page of the Telegraph because of Tayto, or being the subject of snarky articles in the guardian. He must be well pleased that he is on the front page of both because of his new project.
>>86 This is working out well for him. Plus the good reviews are being magnified on social media, and will probably have extra "weight" with whomever because there will be so few reviews.
Even the BBC had to do a summary of audience opinions from Twitter since their critic didn't get into the first show. I did think the Times review sounded a little snarky, perhaps as a result of the balloting. Is that their critc's usual style?
Sounds like this move is working out favorably for him. Especially in light of how juvenile Taylor currently looks. Actions speak louder than words, and he's starting to look the opposite of what she's trying to frame him as. Combined with the fact his play began it's run smack dab during the current film festival circuit of Venice and Telluride, he picked a good time to get noticed again.
And no more fauxmances. I never thought I would long for the days of "nothing to write home about", but man, if you are seeing someone, especially someone famous, be discreet.
>>82 In the pressreader article, the picture of the couple - is that Robert Redford plus one? If so, that couldn't have been at the play; there is no press area. Just curious.
>>80 Great review: "And as for the main event, Hiddleston? His Hamlet is proactive, masculine, edgy to the point of aggression - and definitely, absolutely sane. His madness is a ruse, through and through. Having decided to “be mad by craft”, he appears wrapped in the flag of Denmark with his face painted in the national colours, like a hardcore football fan."
>>89 Amen! But I'm not holding my breath on the Yours Truly part. She's everywhere...everywhere...👀
He's not out of the woods yet. Remember, TS album releases a few days after Thor Ragnarok's release.
I wonder if he'll skip on promoting Thor and leave it up to Hemsworth and Ruffalo since the film is centered on them rather then Loki.
>>88 I was a bit concerned earlier this week that Taytay's video dig would spill over into the Hamlet coverage, but it turned out that the timing helped. You couldn't make up more of a contrast between his public life and hers at the moment!
>>90 I haven't seen that many of the tumblrites got tickets. (Maybe, unlike the Guardian and the Times critics, they didn't have multiple ballots submitted for them!)
>>92 And I gather than in the past, TS has generally released a second single before the album drops. So depending on its topic, their "fling" could pop up again. If so, Marvel might be smart to use him for promo mostly in Asia, where (based on the KSI promo tour) no one will ask him questions about her.
From today's Times:
A small group of lottery winners — some from as far away as America and Canada — gathered on a quiet back street in central London yesterday.
>>95 Diving fully into the snark by the 3rd sentence, I see. Way to go, Sunday Times.
They should have critics on the wait list for the empty seats! (joking)
Oh Lordy lordy lord.
Taylor's second single has just dropped and it seems to be about her current bf (aka bravest millenial alive) . No specific disses other than references to exes who "tried to hard" and how she's forgotten their names.
I puttered around the reviews and 'reviews' while feeding the young master his continental breakfast.
They are roughly what everyone expected. It was never going to crash and burn like Springtime for Hitler was meant to! Excellent director, excellent lead, some pretty good material - that's going to work out performance wise. What was important for TH, I suspect, was the extra-performance bit (it hasn't just been about the Work for a good while now). That seems to have worked out too: front covers, good reviews, interest (from fans and the media), no mention of her. I don't know if this is going to translate into instant HW offers or Oscar worthy scripts, but it's a start. I half wonder if he's trying to re-do 2008-2011 in brief: Hamlet is his Othello and T:R will be his Thor 1, and he'll be off to the races like Tayto never happened. Clever if it works and worth a try.
>>97 Personally I like my Shakespeare traditional so this sounds a little gimmicky to me: Danish football fan, reading self-help manuals, gender bending (yes, I know, that's a demerit off my feminist card!), piano playing and dancing.
>>98 Well, he did try too hard. And if she needs to refresh her memory as to his name, she can just check the contract - like with all the others.
I've decided that her boyfriends fall into two categories: gay or famwhore. I think the bravest millennial, as you hilariously call him, falls into the former.
A fan pic of Tom arriving at the theatre for a rehearsal.
Does anyone else think that Taylor Swift was mad because Tom Hiddleston is receiving excellent reviews in the press and social media (front pages and articles praising HIS WORK) and that's why she decided to drop her second single? She wanted to steal the spotlight because she doesn't want him to succeed and rebuild his good reputation?
>>102 So he did break down and decide to use a car after all. Probably a good idea for the run of the show since fangirls know exactly where and when to find him. Supposedly (per tumblr) a handful waited outside RADA for hours, tweeted RADA to ask if he could come out to see them, and disappointly tweeted him because he "just left." Sigh.
>>100 You forgot the condoms!
This is one reason I really hope they make this production more widely available (though I doubt they'll bother to). I suspect some of these "update" choices might make more sense when seen in context (whereas some would still just be shitck). For example, my eyes rolled when I saw the mention of face painting. But when a subsequent review said that Hamlet was wrapped in a Danish flag at that point and he was painted like a soccer fan, it worked a little better for me as Hamlet making a political point or mocking his uncle. Still not precisely subtle, but might fit a bit better.
Tom taking a solo curtain call. Nice pic! http://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/164938958985/twhnewscom-on-instagram-repostsave-from
>>103 I do, because the second single probably wasn't slated to drop until October. The bad reviews from all over and Hurricane Harvey took the wind out of the sails on the first single.
I think there is so much Shakespeare performed in the U.K. that the "straight up" traditional approach has fallen from fashion. You see it more here in the comedies (think: Merry Wives of Windsor) or at the Swan in Stratford when they are performing lesser known plays of Shakespeare's contemporaries (and sometimes not then). The best productions I have seen are those which are neither wholly traditional nor wholly contemporary, an approach which I think works well with the Histories, which just don't feel right without a nod to their period of writing and/or the period when the events take place. With plays like Hamlet I am more relaxed because they aren't wedded to a particular time, or place really, references to Denmark notwithstanding. I wouldn't expect a trad Hamlet here, not least because of how many other Hamlets there are this season alone.
'He plays piano and sings- I cried He dances around to a beats pill He dry humps a couch A Scottish and Irish accent appear Leather and swords holy christ the best stage fight I’ve ever seen He looked right at me twice like I can’t even recover from it. There were moments where every single person was silent and it was because of Tom. It was just so amazing.' (A beats pill?!) (Via http://insanely-smart.tumblr , com/post/164940278613/putting-these-quick-hamlet-notes-from)
>>103 TS petty and calculating - never! ;) The DM tells me that she did wait a whole day so as not to drop it on her best friend's wedding. I was surprised.
>>109 My MIL asked me what we were doing for his 1st. It's still a few months off but I gulped nonetheless. He's going to be a year old!! It's especially sobering as I'm due back full-time at work then.
The second song is about Karlie Kloss, who she did go on a beach vacation with. And Joe is the public front since he is tall, has blonde hair and blue eyes, and is younger than TS as well. If you put Karlie's hair on Joe, they are identical! I kid you not.
A beats pill? Accents? You are so right, that is TH all over! (That video JVR put on his Instagram of TH playing with a beats pill, which I bet he had never seen before JVR showed him one; that GQ shoot where he did all the accents). Not sure if I would have liked it - it would either have been brilliant or terrible.
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Article on "growing pressure" for RADA to broadcast or record the show for wider availability: https://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/theatre/tom-hiddleston-in-hamlet-rada-under-growing-pressure-to-broadcast-production-to-a-wider-audience-a3626366.html?amp
>>111 And she forgot that Tom is nearsighted, so even without light in his eyes it's unlikely that he sees more than a blur! That said, the audience is really close - see this shot from before the show: https://mobile.twitter//com/thaisinhaa013/status/904489724831813632/photo/1
>>115 No plans to extend because of Hiddleston's Hollywood schedule? Do they know something we don't, or is that a reference to Thor 3 promo?
The reality is that this was always intended to be a short and "exclusive" run, for all the laudable and not so laudable reasons we have discussed on here.
>>112 I hope my wink indicated that I do believe her possible of what Xanon suggested (even if I don't think it the case in this instance). But don't mention Poor Joe in a wig; he's got a tough enough row to hoe without giving TS ideas.
Praise for Tom's performance, and his self contained approach to the whole music video fiasco after dumping out his "heart" to GQ magazine. Most of the comments debate whether or not the commentators are interested in another Hamlet.
>>120 the article definitely says "Hiddleston's HW schedule"....
I am not sure whether they record NT Live with audiences. I think possibly not - having seen stills from the Donmar production of Coriolanus there are no audience members visible, but they would definitely be in the frame if they had been there as it is such as small theatre (though I haven't seen an NT live so I stand to be corrected).
Apparently Tom and Chris Hemsworth were both guests at former Mean Girls and "Masters of Sex" actress, Lizzy Caplan's, wedding to UK producer Tom Riley on the Amalfi Coast on Sunday. Are there no Sunday matinees of Hamlet? Lucky mister. Tom's stylist, Ilaria Urbinati was there as well, and she posted pics of Ravello on her Instagram.
>>122 No, no Sunday matinees, or eves for that matter. The show is playing Mondays - Saturdays, with a matinee only on Sats. And they're skipping a mid-week night each week. So it's only 6 performances a week.
>>121 I was just speculating (unclearly!) that despite what the reporter was told or may have assumed, we know that KB has commitments soon that he can't break but we don't know the same for sure about Tom.
>>121 Also I was assuming that the NT Lives are filmed with an audience. Partly because of their name, and partly because I've seen a clip of the very start of the Coriolanus broadcast, which showed the audience. Though that could have been edited in. If this Hamlet were filmed at RADA as staged, the audience is so very close that filming would likely show if the seats were empty. But I haven't seen any of those broadcasts either.
>>122>>123 Apparently Chris Hemsworth was spotted in Byron Bay in Australia with his family on Sunday, so he wasn't at the wedding. So Tom probably wasn't there either. I was thinking that Tom had to be pretty confident in his performance skills and his recuperation abilityto jet off to Italy for a vacay middle of his Hamlet run. US magazine must just have wanted the clicks. Silly me.
NT Live is just that Live. I looked at my copy of Coriolanus and there are audience members present. Whether that could logistically happen in the Rada theatre, I don't know. More importantly, I don't think it will happen. That would seem to undermine everything they've said about the ballot system and their use of it, not to mention undermining the actual process of the system itself.
>>126 I don't think that doing an NT Live would necessarily undermine what they said about the ballot system, at least what they said at first - it was supposed to be about fairness in getting tickets. And while there doubtless would be people who got tickets complaining that they had to go through that whole process, and pay X to go to London and Y to see the play when others could just go to an NT Live showing, I think there would be many, many others happy to have an expanded opportunity to see it. (Not to mention that those who saw it live, saw it live and were mere meters away from the performers!)
>>126 >>127 I'm going with Anon. here - they're not going to film this limited run for NTLive. Even if they hadn't had a ballot system and there was nothing about it that would make them out to be hypocrites, and no physical limitations to setting up the cameras and lighting, it isn't going to happen within these 16 remaining days. There are 2 other major Hamlet productions being staged right now; it wouldn't make sense for them to film RADA's.
>>127 This play sounds ridiculous! This sounds like an audition reel for TH or a parody of Hamlet sponsored by Tumblr.
>>130 I wonder if the exclusivity isn't going to backfire on TH, at least a little bit? It certainly hasn't endeared him/KB/RADA to at least one critic (new article from Mark Shelton today: https://www.thestage.co.uk/opinion/2017/mark-shenton-review-hamlet-not-review-hamlet-question/ ). And with most of the coverage coming from twitter reviews that talk about the gimmicks in the production, it may not maintain a sense of "serious actor" after this show vanishes. Already have his google search results are back to being TS related.
>>127 So Sir Ken has not stepped into the role of TH's NO man. Can I dance? Yes. Can I sing? Yes. Can I hip thrust? Yes. The search for the elusive TH wrangler continues.
>>131 He's at the damned if he does, damed if he doesn't stage. Probably not making him enemies, serious ones, but not making friends either, especially not among those who didn't get tickets.
>>133 That is the quintessence of a review of his butt in this!
The Guardian has also jumped in to ask for an NTL broadcast: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/06/kenneth-branagh-hamlet-tom-hiddleston-cinemas
Tom, and his costar from The Hollow Crown and The Deep Blue Sea, Simon Russell Beale, advertise an evening featuring John Le Carre, at London's Royal Festival Hall. Apparently the evening is to recognize his most well we'll knwon character, George Smiley, in honor of his most recent book "A Legacy of Spies", and fund raise for MSF. It's being broadcast in cinemas, apparently.
The supposed reasoning behind no DVD recording (not worth it for fundraising), per a student working on the show: https://twitterDOTcom/bourtney/status/905554262222098432
Another "review," with a few more details: http://imaginaryboyfriendcollection.tumblr.com/post/165058435932/hiddlehamlet-a-firsthand-account-part-i
In case it's taken down, here are a couple of pertinent paragraphs - "Important things must be addressed, so: couch humping. Was SO FUNNY. It wasn’t a full-on dry humping (oh god…I just had to take several minutes to think about what that would be like. I’m back now) but rather a couple of energetic thrusts. Which was enough. This was met with laughter and tons of quietly imploding vaginas, I assume."
>>137 Actually I quite enjoyed this! She makes no bones about the fact that it's purely a description of how hot Tom looked while playing Hamlet, and not a review of the production.
PS I don't think of Hamlet as a sobber. He is too calculating for that. Were these tears of relief at TH's rehabilitation as an actor?
A "faint praise" interview from The Stage:
Costumes by Selfridges, I kid you not. And it is not the grey boots but a different pair!
>>140 So after all that fuss from The Stage about critics having to go through the ballot for tix, I wonder how this person got in to see it....?!
Hmmm. They didn't sell ballot tix for yesterday (Wed) yet there are several tweets talking about seeing it last night, including for pre-show drinks with KB (@pargupta). Also tweeted by the CEO of a cinema advert firm (@cinemalover). And a musician associated with RADA. Look under #radahamlet. One was posted 16 hours ago, the others in the last hour or so. Very interesting. Wonder if that's how The Stage critic got in.
And in the popular arts, (1) the Early Man trailer dropped today and (2) set interviews for T:R were released (see Collider and so on).
>>143 The half formed feet of clay are crumbling. All hail the fairness of the ballot system.
>>137 >>139 I suppose she deserves credit for shamelessly being the drooling, Tumblr stereotype, but I had to stop reading when she mentioned sniffing him whenever he passed. I feel this woman would keep him a pit in her basement: 'It puts the tight jeans on and humps the couch or it gets the hose.'
>>143 cough networking cough
Not surprised. I knew there would be something like this, and there will be more. This is Tom's comeback vehicle while also showcasing future promising talent. It's definitely not art for art's sake. But tbh stuff like this is just business, it's not anything underhanded.
>>146 That sniffing part made me eyeroll. Definitely sheds another perspective on her tube meeting with Tom.
>>147 I wouldn't disagree with any of this save for the pious backstory. If you are constantly banging on about how critics have to go in the ballot so as not deprive the charity of money, and about how the ballot is fairer because it allows ordinary theatregoers a fair chance to get tickets, then don't surrender your "dress rehearsal" night AND one performance to networking events.
>>146 I missed the sniffing part. HAHAHAHAHAHA re Lecter. No wonder he isn't doing a stage door.
>>149 And last night probably wasn't the last "special" performance. There's one more night in each remaining week that wasn't sold by ballot. (I was wondering why they'd do a Mon. show and be dark on a Tuesday. Now we know.) Wonder how they choose who got to attend last night - bet it wasn't by lottery! Interesting choices when it seems as if U.K. theatre is perceived by many as exclusive. It would irk me less if they could just have gotten their stories straight. "It's a fundraiser! No, it's not about making lots of money! Critics must do the ballot - but if your trade paper complains enough, one of your critics will get to see it by iinvitation!" Sheesh.
>>139 Yeah, I thought it was worth sharing a bit since it's well written for a lust posting! I could see Hamlet crying (he is in mourning, after all), but not for 75% of his time onstage. Tom does cry really, really well, though - another talent he got to showcase in this.
So let me get this straight, the woman with the mentality of a teenager who met Tom on the tube also went to the Hamlet play and sniffed him?
It must be creepy that Tom saw that girl yet again. Me thinks he has a stalker now.
>>149 Agreed. I have a problem with that as well. It just wasn't needed. Then again the whole authentic sincerity spiels where they are not needed is something I've always had an issue with when it comes to TH. I understand that he wasn't behind all of the RADAHamlet ones himself but these unnecessary authentic sincerity backstories seem to be a running theme with whatever he's involved in.
Haven't listened to it yet but this audio for one of the accessible performances is supposed to give some details of the staging: https://t.co/FGAHzL4z4n?amp=1
>>154 An anon posted yesterday to the crazy clever one' tumblr about the non-public performance on Wed. The CC one's response was to defend it basically as "it's all about the fundraising." Will be interesting to see if more people pick up on this after the private show next week.
>>137 Here's part 2 of the first row review. It's just as long as part 1: http://imaginaryboyfriendcollection.tumblr.com/post/165192560687/hiddlehamlet-a-firsthand-account-part-ii
There's more unabashed fangirling, mixed with the actual play review.
>>158 Is this going to be a six part series? Another 'review.' The fangirling is front and center and greatly colors any information about the play itself. She also indulges in that timeworn fallacy of assuming the entire audience felt the same way she did. '...the entire audience was hanging on his every word....' You mean they were quiet and watching the play, like a theatre audience, rather than trying to sniff him loudly?
>>159 'Review' is a relative term. Any place she was not talking about his body.
From fans, this is probably the reaction he wanted. That slightly obsessive and very flattering gushing. It helps to drown out those Complaining about the ballot. Considering the reviews from critics are also very good, this is going to plan.
>>158 Didn't I tell you? Snake-hips Hamlet!
>>158, >>161 Oh lawd. Funny voices for the skull? But Hamlet isn't supposed to be playing mad in that scene.... I don't know whether to be annoyed that the rest of us may never get to see this to judge for ourselves whether all the "business" works in context, or to be glad that we may be spared these ideas of what makes Hamet relatable.
A blogger review (not fangirlish) with more details of KB's choices and some of the other performances. Interesting that Ophelia is pregnant? And per this person, Tom is making eye contact with the audience during his soliloquies. http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fthefeministmonster.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F09%2F11%2Freview-hamlet-at-jerwood-vanbrugh-theatre%2F&t=ZTUwNGZkOWQyYzMwNjZmMGY0MTE3NjQ3NzI3OWE5ZDQ4ZjMwZTNkMixRVENHRzUzTg%3D%3D&b=t%3AwtihBn2-rFBsXVQ3xZvuag&p=http%3A%2F%2Finsanely-smart.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F165227234193%2Freview-hamlet-at-jerwood-vanbrugh-theatre&m=1
Why is he catering to his fans so much when those same fans hated him with a passion for dating a pop star. He's 36 years old and still pandering to his over entitled annoying fanbase. He needs to grow up and this interpretation of Hamlet sounds incredibly dumb. I hope Andrew Scott takes awards for his Hamlet. Humping a couch and dancing...he's ridiculous. He's as immature as his fans
>>159>>161 Yeah, these Tumblr fan reviews aren't reviews of the play or his acting. It's just accounts of Tom's looks, his body, and a competition of "he looked directly at me!" "Oh yeah? Well he winked and grinned and looked at me" "pfft well he blew a kiss at me and now I'm carrying baby hiddles so take that bitches". It's all fantasy projection and fan competition.
>>164 I don't think these 'encounters' should be considered catering or pandering. And I didn't intend to suggest this with my comments. This would be pandering if he were actually making eye contact with audience members. Without knowing the theatre, I can't be completely certain, but it's hard to pick out a particular person in a darkened audience from a lit stage. The exaggeration may be giving a different impression of what is actually happening.
>>166 Once long ago I attended a party after a performance of the Histories at the RSC (both tetralogies over 4 days!). The actor playing Jack Cade and I talked about a soliloquy he did when Cade fantasises about the women he will get when his rebellion succeeds. I was on the front row (large theatre with thrust stage, lights down over audience during performance, i.e. bigger than this theatre but otherwise similar in feel and layout). He was standing very close to me and I felt he delivered the whole speech to me as he was looking right at me throughout. During the party I met the actor and told him how unnerving it felt - like the fourth wall wasn't really there any more (something the RSC does well but never better than at this moment). One of the things I asked him was whether he could actually see me. The answer I got surprised me. Absolutely he said. As long as the spots are not right in your eyes, which they aren't as they would dazzle you, on a thrust stage as opposed to a proscenium arch, you can see a lot. He told me that for that speech he always homed in on a young woman in the front couple of rows, and delivered the speech to her. It helped him capture Cade's mood in that speech. These women might not be entirely wrong when they say TH was looking right at them, choosing someone to wink at etc.
If I had just performed Hamlet I'd preen and enjoy the applause!! It's had good reviews and he is apparently one of the highlights (not just for the fans). I think he is entitled to bask in the applause for his performance. (I know you aren't saying he shouldn't)
>>162 I think he and Sir K are trying to walk a very thin line in regards to 'audience.' He needs to win back fans, the Guardian, HW big wigs and Tumblr all while couching it in a robe of charity. It's a big ask.
>>165 You're correct in that there is definitely a fantasy lens when it comes to TH, a pretty thick one smeared with vaseline. Hard to tell what it real and what is embellished beyond recognition with accounts from fans. I saw him at the Times Talk and instantly declared HL the winner of that evening - knock out in the first round winner. Reading accounts of it later on tumblr and twitter, I realized that I didn't have my fan glasses on because everyone was gushing about TH.
>>165 Agree with Anon in >>168 re: thanks for the reminder that we are seeing the production largely filtered through fangirl write-ups. >>168 And thanks, Anon, for the comparison with Coriolanus. I was going to ask those of you who've been at this longer than I have how the tweets/tumbler/blogs for RadHam compare with those from TH's previous live shows.
No idea if this is a regular reviewer or not, but here it is: http://www.westendwilma.com/review-tom-hiddleston-hamlet-rada/
If anyone's interested in more staging details and some idea of which scenes were cut or moved, there's a four-part series here (yes, some fangirling, but not too much - at this point I'm just posting stuff if I think it adds some insight): http://hiddlescheekbones.tumblr.com/post/165272043814/hamlet-at-rada-a-very-long-and-very-detailed
Yep, they're definitely doing invitation-only events on the "dark" nights. Someone from a PR firm posted a photo of the special invitation. She's since deleted the tweet, but it's captured here: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/165294258543/twittercomprmattersukstatus907907769193209857
>>167 I've had similar experiences with actors/ actresses making prolonged or frequent eye contact during a performance. At a performance of Midsummer Night's Dream, the actress playing Helena made frequent eye contact with me throughout her scenes because I kept laughing at the humor she brought to her Helena, it was different than the usual way I've seen Helena done and I was loving it. The actress told me afterwards that I was one of the few in her line of sight who caught on to the humor and that's why she'd focus on me during some of her scenes, it helped with her performance. I think connecting with the character and audience through eye contact is probably a more common practice among theater actors than we realize, and not the love/ lust at first sight some of these Tumblr fans keep trying to insinuate.
>>172 The critic and non fan reviews just confirm what most of us knew all along, that Tom is a good actor and has potential to be a great one. Too bad he doesn't have the patience to keep at it and steer clear of the tabloid aspect. Succumbing to cheap tactics like PRmances with pop stars and pap walks with FWB co-stars take away from the talent he has to offer and make him a non option for good solid roles that may not be lead but could become award worthy with his performance.
>>174 I'm surprised that there hasn't been more noise in the fandom about the reserved nights. (Anons have brought it up several times on the crazy clever one's tumblr, but she's shushed them each time.) Maybe RADA lucked out that the first one came to light long enough after the balloting had ended that people had recovered sufficiently from their disappointment and took the news stoically, or fans are still buying that those shows are for fundraising with bigger potential donors. Maybe those nights do have at least some donors, but the attendees who've tweeted about them are clearly in the business. The great chain of backscratching continues! (I wonder if the PR woman who tweeted a copy of her invitation took it down because she was getting questions, or because RADA asked her to nix it....)
In other news, this article about Cumberbatch's career contrasts him with Tom (though mostly in terms of Tom not having as many haters): https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/benedict-cumberbatch-whitewashing-gypsy-boy/
I think it raises an interesting point, though - has Tom been less successful than, say, BC because he's tried for variety in his choice of roles? (Loki aside, of course.) Or is the difference in their levels of success due to BC having a five-year head start? Or some other factors?
I am not surprised that the fans have sucked up whatever justification RADA provides about the freeloader nights. The well known blogs are by and large deeply and almost perversely uncritical of him and also of anyone/thing associated with him.
My favourite example was at the height of the relationship when GossipCop issued one of its usual bullshit denials of an obviously true story, and her fans leapt in to say that the "source" was Tree Paine (her publicist) and that she was the source for all GC's TS stories, therefore the denial was accurate.
RADA may be watching for certain fangirls. This is the one who got a ticket by taking over someone else's successful ballot - sounds like she was questioned at the box office. Too bad RADA has no way of knowing whether or not money changed hands. https://twitterDOTcom/claireyfairy1/status/908458824381628416
>>181 Shiiiiiiiit. She's considering interrupting the play to ask about the scratches on his neck in a movie from 2007. Completely reasonable, right?? This is HER chance and mean ole HL isn't there to snatch it cruelly from her. Tom totally wants her to ask; she can see it in his eyes.
>>184 I've seen this girl on a very popular gossip site that i sometimes frequent. She loves showing off vids and pics of her meeting him and giving her hugs. Its gone so far that a foreign site that's dedicated to him has a lot of pictures with him with her to the point I think this girl is obsessed and she has admitted traveling far to his sets just to meet him. She's very nanny-esque with him obviously as well.
>>184 Maybe it wasn't Tumblr or online related at all. If she had more than a few pics/ posters etc and he remembered signing other stuff for her before he might have thought she was collecting autographs to sell online.
>>185 That's a rather large leap...from hugging fans to sleeping with them (though I do agree he shouldn't go around hugging random strangers all the time like that because one never knows). I don't think he's been careless enough to sleep with a civilian groupie type fan, though I'm sure he's probably hooked up with ppl in the industry who are fans of his or fancy him. From what I've seen, it doesn't seem like Tom takes any fan's physical features into consideration when he's doing his usual greeting fans and posing with them routines. I've seen pics and vids of him with fans who range from conventional good looks to quirky to average to everything. That behavior sounds more like something Justin Bieber would do...
>>180 did they label you a "toxic" lol Seems like anyone who disagrees or points out any sort of logic to any of these big TH tumblrs, they're marked as a toxic and the faceless anons are set on them.
>>187 I'm not important enough to be a toxic. Also I had been on here for some time before Tayto (and even before Theo) so I didn't care to engage on tumblr too much.
I think he has always been alert to those who sell autographs. I have seen footage from years ago where he refused to sign for people who had had one already. Most autograph sellers are male but he may have come to the conclusion that anyone with multiple pics on one occasion is a seller. Hence he would sign for or pose with fans he had seen before but only if they had one pic on each occasion.
The little RadHam tickets mysteries continue. A young actor tweeted Fri. AM that he and at least one other person were being comp'd by RADA for that night's show. An attendee at one of yesterday's show tweeted that she saw at least four empty seats. A couple of well-known actors (Riz Amhad, Tom Hollander) have been spotted in the house. Did the shows not sell out after all? Are people with tix not showing up? Or (my strong suspicion) did RADA only sell 130 seats but has more seats available for people in the business? (Depending on how it's configured, that theatre can seat up to 160).
>>190 Its totally for industry people. That whole show is not only for Hiddles rebranding but also for Branagh's RADA graduates to get some jobs, agents etc.
I don't like how this play has been advertised. Making it seem like its some charity when its only for a bunch of elite people to meet other elite people. No wonder the UK have a diversity problem with students who can't afford to get into a very expensive school like RADA. It's very unfair for working class people to compete with a "charity play" like that.
>>190 Nanny response: 'RA and THo are such fans of TH that they entered the ballot like everyone else.' Yep.
I went looking for empty seat/comped tweets and the like. Found about a dozen from the start of the run. Also found a woman who described herself as a 'last minute seat filler' courtesy of a friend who works at Rada. Hmmm. The rottenness remains in the state.
>>191 Unknown, to your knowledge, is this the first 'charity play' that RADA has ever done? Have other theaters had charity play short runs like this?
>>193 Good question, Whats. I don't know if Unknown has that specialist knowledge but I bet someone on the board does.
They touted the ballot system as all but revolutionary, so that element seems a first, at least for Rada. When I lived in London I was a semi-frequent theatre goer both on my own dime and on the boyfriend's Citibank client entertaining allowance. I never attended a play at Rada or knew anyone who had attended. Of course I knew of Rada. I don't think they have alumni back to perform/direct in this way but I could be wrong. I have no idea about the fundraising part of this. Maybe every play at Rada is technically a fundraiser as the students don't get paid for it.
Tidbits of possible interest:
Tom, being cradled deep in Ken's bosom; never has his PR been this good. But who else would be as loving as a mentor who's also had his ups and downs.
"Kenneth Branagh interview: 'Tom Hiddleston and I were always honest about Hamlet' "
>>198 Oh yes - Tom's PR team should hire Sir Ken! (Though I did sense that KB might be a mite peeved that most of the attention for the production was for Tom, not for Tom and the director. Even this interview spent more time on RadHam than on KB's upcoming MotOE. And you'll note that KB doesn't talk about wanting to do more Shakespeare with Tom.)
Oh, a question for the UK-theatre goers. What does it mean when a performance is described as "very RADA" or "too RADA"?
>>198 This was unintentionally hilarious in several respects. After an anecdote I heard recently from someone who has met him, I can however believe the neediness of the "will it sell out?" story.
It seems that Cumberbatch did mysteriously manage to acquire a seat for the last night. He must have made his wife go in the ballot too. https://diariesofatravelingclassicist.wordpress.com/2017/09/24/750/
>>201 Can you say more about the anecdote (only if you're comfortable doing so, of course)? And what else did you find funny in the article?
Yes, so mysterious how that worked. Helena Bonham Carter was at one of the other public performances earlier in the week. Maybe there were celebrity smack-downs happening in the parking lot to see who would get a returned ticket!
Ok anecdote. The person I met worked closely with him and still sees him for pub nights out etc. Apparently very charming and gentlemanly but also buttock-clenchingly earnest and desirous of approval (this from a man, and not from a famous one either). Thus far, thus fairly unsurprising, save that the neediness must be pretty noticeable if a regular bloke can spot it.
>203 "buttock-clenchingly earnest" "talking in Serious Deep Voices" - you made my day!
>204 Let's hope no one goes to MotOE expecting to lip read, because you can't even tell that KB has a mouth behind that 'stache.
>>199 Yep, Hamletted out except for one last question: why did he wear such tight clothes, as mentioned in most of the reviews in the latter 2 weeks of the run? Proprioceptive issues? Did he gain weight?
>>203 I've read one or more anecdotes and blind items about that particular personality trait as part of an overall insecurity. So the 'will we fill the seats' quote I said 'really, not again dude'
>>203 My hubby and I were talking about the concept of the alpha male a few weeks ago. We were compiling a list: Harrison Ford, Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, Muhammad Ali, Teddy Roosevelt, George Washington, General D. MacArthur, Idris Elba, Daniel Craig.
>>207 The words "alpha gorillas" were interpolated by me, not without irony, because:
1) they are really not alpha gorilla types
This lack of self-confidence has got to be cutting deeply into the success of his auditions. Maybe not when it comes to Shakespeare but anything else outside of his comfortable acting box. The depths that some of the more versatile actors go to for roles requires he trusts himself. I know that it's been said here that therapy is not something Brits tend to do, but he needs something to build himself up. Private acting workshop?
*I don't know, what do actors do when they need to get their mojo back?
>>209 NewAnon has reminded us that many of his roles were either secured through connections, given to him by directors (because he looked like the character), or when others dropped out and he was the next available 'store brand' Brit. The list is long: Thors and Avengers (Sir K); ISTL, MiP (picked by directors); CP, OLLA (store brand Brit replacement); Shit Island (through legendary/CP).
>>211 Whatever mojo was restored by Hamlet, I wonder if it will last. I ask because I get the feeling, mostly from SDCC, that TH won't be two wheeling with T:R promo, as in the past. I think he'll be three wheeling it with Messrs. Hemsworth and Ruffalo. But then add in the director and other stars and suddenly he's on the middle axle of an 18-wheeler - not where he usually is and not where someone with shaky confidence likes to be.
>>206 Now that you mention it, his clothes/costumes didn't look all that tight in the photo shoot pictures. Maybe he started training for Loki (if he's in A4) and bulked up a little. Or maybe it's from leftovers of that delicious-looking catered food.
>>211 (snicker) Though I think you've hit on something - another purpose of RadHam could have been to rebuild not only TH's reputation but his self-confidence.
>>213 It is sounding as though he won't be as prominent in T:R promo as he's been in the past. He might welcome that, though, since it means less chance of awkward questions about HS. (Especially if TS does something else super-duper public about the album during the T:R promos.)
I think we have said on here before that pre Hiddleswift he enjoyed a very good relationship with the press. Think of all those Guardian interviews - he was respected and liked. KB talked in that interview about what a hard Tim he had in the press and it is true - he was absolutely pilloried for being earnest, too clever by half, and ambitious. Pre-Tayto, TH wasn't criticised at all for those traits, which he possesses to a degree - it was presented as part of an endearing package. I don't recall reading a single really critical feature or interview (I'm setting aside reviews or CB which is snarky about everything and only gets it secondhand anyway).
>>217 The backside of "earnest, too clever by half, and ambitious" are overenthusiastic, butt-kissing, know-it-all, which filled some blind items about him during two specific times: the first Avengers movie run and during the dying month of HS (i.e. after she went back to the US), especially the know-it-all part.
I guess when Thor promo starts we'll see if being the hot ticket in town helped boost his confidence. If not maybe he and Sir K. will have been working for years on staging Macbeth in a bathroom...for charity.
What a minefield promo will be now: Tayto, her album promo and all the potential 'bristle' questions about the two. Remember when the top of the promo cringe scale was yodeling and bad accents. Ah, the good old days.
Hello! Hope all is well. When is baby's first birthday?
>>220 And Tom will have always wanted to play King Scot in an undiscovered bathroom....
>>221 It's good to hear that the press seems to see him as a serious person again. (Though the Telegraph, in that recent Branagh article, did have to get in "Hiddleston, 36, became a household name in the UK on the back of his brooding (and bottom-baring) turn on The Night Manager"!) I guess it's good that he's back to being snarked for dropping his trousers?
Good spot. Very interesting. I see that a major attraction was offering the opportunity to make an extra donation at the point of sale. I wonder how many actually did so, and how much it raised. On these numbers even if every single person paid an extra fiver it wouldn't have raised a lot. I bet a lot of people didn't add an extra donation as the base price was pretty expensive and yeah.
At the BFI Luminous gala:
>>224 I looked through all of the Getty Images (where that photo is from) to find others of him, 15 pages worth, but that's all they managed to get of him for the night. I couldn't even find a video clip on YouTube. How's that for super-low profile?
BFI again. With a man with an incredibly small head.
A fan had a chance meeting with him today (Wednesday): http://geniaparadox.tumblr.com/post/166045943026/i-am-fucking-losing-it-guys-holy-shit-i-met-tom
Lighting and shadows can age a person, but this photo plus >>224 and >>226 tell me that he's lost a lot of weight because I haven't seen those eyes that sunken and with dark circles since he was at the London Evening Standard Theatre Awards in early 2014, about a month after he finished filming ISTL and he was still gaunt from playing a drugged and boozed up Hank.
I don't relish this; I hope that I'm wrong, that he's still at his Loki skinniness and these are badly lit and angled photos.
Wow...he looks really haggard in these new pics. Especially the one with the kid. Like Whatsinaname said, I really hope it's just bad lighting.
It is bad lighting. New pics on Torrilla from Q&A on “Early Man” with Maisie Williams. He looks and sounds good, calm, and grounded. I’m sorry I cant link from my phone.
>>231 He does look good - provided you like beards! (I can't stand this look on him).
I see from the accounts of this publicity thing that Eddie Redmayne couldn't attend and sent a recording. Mmmmm.
>>233 I was just thinking, one big name busy, the other less so!
Thor Ragnarok premiere! In a really bad Gucci suit! Still has beard! https://instagram.com/p/BaF7aWtA4ZG/
>>236 And though you can't tell from these pix, also still has the long hair. Agree this outfit wasn't his best look - wonder if Yrs Truly was involved or not.
In the red carpet interview I saw (live, so no link) he came across pretty well, I thought. Moderate energy and didn't play too much to the pretty interviewers. Maybe the beard represents the new, mature TH.
Apparently the older gent is his dad (via a CB link). I don't think I have ever seen a pic of them together before. I once saw a brief video of the tow of them at another premiere.
I meant to reference >>237 for the IG link.
>>238 And so speculation continues over why his contribution to the press has been downplayed. Marvel could be wanting to concentrate more on the Mark/Chris/Taika relationship, and they don’t want there to be a chance of any Loki spoilers getting out by accident. There’s the unsubstantiated stalker rumor and the avoiding ts rumor.
Re Yourstruly - Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh! Still, no surprise given that the suit was hideous and too tight.
>>242 TH doesn't have movie star looks either so...His sisters especially his younger sister looks way better then even him.
His father looks really old. They must've made Tom when they were much older then average, even though Tom isn't that old tho he looks older then he actually is which is another story.
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>>242 Comparing the PopSugar video to last night, his dad has a full head of hair now. At Thor 1 he was balding.
>>241 The cast did a press panel today and Tom was there, so he's not completely out of the T:R loop. But there are so many possible reasons why he's not nearly as prominent this time around. Me, I find it nice and calming. Now the top articles about him today feature the beard (ex: https://www.gq.com/story/tom-hiddleston-thor-ragnarok-beard ), though saying it makes Tom look "as rugged as Jake Gyllenhaal" isn't much of a compliment in my book....
Guess who is in talks to play Hamlet in a new Brexit-era film for netflix? Tom, not so much. Emmy winner Riz Ahemd! Thrilled for Riz. Still no Shakespeare on the big screen for Tom, yet. Wonder if Tom was in contention for this?
>>248 Good question. I think that thanks to Night Of, Riz is currently a hotter property than Tom, at least over here. (TNM didn't make as much of a splash.) If this happens, it may make it less likely that Tom will do Hamlet onscreen anytime soon, especially with the BBC doing Andrew Scott's version next year. I hope that if Tom wants to get in first with some Shakespearean role he's been eyeing (cough Benedict cough), he does it soon before someone else from his cohort grabs it!
>>249 Yep, I'm not as driven to watch the Thor 3 videos. The rock, paper, scissors cast game was adorable. But overall, I'm happy that Tom is less of a dancing bear through this series of promos. He seems calm, grounded and mature on the red carpet. With that summer PR madness last year, and TS releasing new singles and filming a London-based music video, I think that Tom is content to just talk about the work w his colleagues and not be at the center of some juvenile PR shite storm. And Marvel is not like Legendary with the Kong interviews. Marvel cares way too much about protecting their franchise profits to let reporters ask any personal questions that would distract at all from the agenda of their films. Sadly, I really think that Tom would haven been asked to do at least one late show in the US if not for last summer. And yes, Chris is the hero and Cate is the new villain, but the full Thor 3 cast on a late show together would have been delightful. Would audiences get false impressions about the plot and think that the film was a Loki revenge movie if Tom did any more press? It's not that difficult a concept. BTW, Domhnall Gleeson is on fire landing parts right now w Ex Machina, the Revenant, American Made, Goodbye Christopher Robin and Star Wars. Can Tom steal his agent?!
Non spoiler review of Thor:Ragnarok from Collider. Apparently the film is a balls to the wall comedy, even more so than the Guardians of the Galaxy series. I really don't connect to the humor in the Guardians films, but I love Taika's humour in Boy, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, and WWDITS, so my fingers are crossed for the cast. Apparently Cate doesn't have much screen time, and her section of the film is not the strongest part of the narrative.
Evening all! Thanks for the Ragnarok links.
I haven't been able to get interested in the publicity material - ironically, given that the movie actually looks good.
>>253 CORRECTION: not cover up to the sexual groping charges against the DJ, but to distract and deflect away from it.
>>253 I read about this. Apparently she held a listening party for her stans (she has to be the only celebrity I know who actually searches out and spends time with the nutters) and she told them it and other songs were all about Joe. That may or may not be true, but it must be what she wants us to think if she told all the stans.
dicks out for Harambe
>>255>>253 TS wrote Gorgeous about her gf, Karlie Kloss. Karlie Is younger than Calvin. Karlie was at the met ball that night. And that lyric about wanting something that she can't have, is about her not being able to have a public normal relationship with her gf. As T has had public fauxmances with Joe and Tom, that's the only way the lyrics make sense. Joe is literally Karlie without a wig on, it's crazy. They have the same eye shape, too. And if you look at the met ball pics of T and Karlie hugging on the dance floor, and the 4th of July pics of T and Karlie cuddling and holding hands on the waterslide, and the pics of them hugging in their Vogue article body to body, it's kind of obvious. They also wear matching necklaces with initials T and K... I just hope that one day Hollywood can stop with these silly games and let poeple be who they are, and stop promoting these fauxmances for the public.
Not a Kaylor, just someone who thinks that the celebrities who have such controlled media managed images are not at all what they seem (side-eyeing you Joe Jonas and Bradley Cooper), and I have my fingers and toes are crossed that TS's name never comes up on a TH blog again, in the history of time. Period. I've just hit a wall where I can't look any more "accidentally" taken crystal clear professional pics of celebrities who are "loved up" and reportedly are "so in love" just when they just coincidentally require our attention to promote their artistic endeavours.
>>258 If Himself isn't going to give us any career news to work with, we're reduced to discussing how much more of an idiot/famewhore/jerk TS has managed to make him look with her latest emission. I think no matter which super-sekret interpretation of this song you pick, it results in TH looking like a total pawn to cover up her affair(s), or someone who hit on a young woman who already had a boyfriend, or TS's beard, or....
>>258 I read this as "look at the state of this beard." I couldn't agree more!
As regards the board, it's still a fun place to hang out, but that loooong since ceased to have a great deal to do with TH. I have this feeling that if we all met up in a bar and he walked in, we'd look up from our drinks and say, "yeah whatever" before carrying on with our own conversation!
>>260 I read that as "TH looking like a total prawn"
All this discussion of 'his team'. There's so little going on I don't think he's had an active team for a while. Certainly not a marketing team aside from a chaperone to openings. The last attempt to resurrect his image was the GQ article in which he came across as a wet sock. I think his agents have him on the disaster sleeper file and by the looks of his beard and visible foundation line, even his Hollywood groomer has been ditched.
Great video of Tom being interviewed onset of Thor 3 at minute 17:24 by children in Australia affiliated with the children's hospital! He dances and beat boxes. If keeps the kids happy, I'm for it, I guess. Chris is interviewd just before that. And their joint visit to the hospital is covered at the beginning of the video.
At a gala opening of a new theatre. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2389079577984841&id=2162417180651083&set=pcb.2389081281318004&source=48&refid=13&__tn__=%2B%3D
>>262 I almost typed "prawn" as I was writing that!
This article about Fassbender has been making the rounds: http://observer.com/2017/10/michael-fassbender-snowman-assassins-creed-movie-star/
So apparently it seems that Tom has gotten a puppy. A fan met him with the puppy and tweeted about it (and from the tweets it sounds like she was stalking him with dedication) The tweets are in Italian but the all the tweets pertaining to the puppy and Tom and their translation can be found on the Crazy Smart one's blog. Fandom discussion is currently at #Tomsettlingdown level. He was with a lady friend so it's a combination of everything.
It's his emotional support dog. It may also be giving him career advice.
Apparently it is a cocker spaniel puppy and it's 9 weeks old. He said last year when he was promoting ISTL that he wanted a dog but didn't have time because of all the travelling. I guess now he has time. I am glad for him, no snark intended. There isn't much point doing a high pressure highly paid job for years on end if the net result is that it makes it impossible for you to enjoy the fruits of your success.
>>267 Read some of the posts about it. I must have missed the part where it said that he was with a lady friend. But yay for getting a cute Spaniel. Settling down (for the moment) must feel good.
In the same way I doubted the cat was his when mentioned in a 'reputable' magazine, I'll wait for a confirmation of his new status as a pet owner.
I think he said in that interview that he didn't have pets because it wouldn't be fair on them since he was away so much. If the pup is that age, he was thinking about getting it before or during the Hamlet run. Long days of rehearsal, performance days and thoughts of upcoming promo wouldn't inspire a sensible person to get a dog. Especially if he was hoping Hamlet would bring the scripts and work in.
>>269, >>271 Apparently some asked the tweeter if the puppy was Tom's, and she replied that she didn't know. (It could have belonged to the woman who was with him.) I think's Anon's point about taking time to enjoy what his success has brought him is a very good one, but I wonder if he's really learned that lesson yet. I have trouble believing that's he'll give up his hard driving approach to his career once the offers start coming in again. (As a recovering workaholic myself, I know that it can be hard not to fall back into old habits!)
There's an Italian style magazine coming out with a new issue on Wed. that has a stop-in-your-tracks beautiful (I'd have said gorgeous, but...) picture of Tom on the cover. Per Google, the headline with it translates roughly to "Do Not Ask Me Anymore" and the teaser blurb refers to him as "an English actor of great elegance and few words (don’t even think about mentioning Taylor Swift!" So we may see another war-of-wills with an interviewer.
Tom and Tessa Thompson talk Thor 3 w Collider on Action sequences
>>272 The cover I was talking about: https://twitterDOTcom/snehzfatema1999/status/925054589623181312
Spotted on I think Thursday on the set of the latest Avengers movie. Maybe the career isn't as moribund as we had feared. Torrilla has pics.
PS had the server for the board been weird for a few days?
>>276 It's not known if it was for IW reshoots or A4, though. Apparently both are filming at the same time.
The sever has been acting up; this is the first time I've been able to get on in a few days.
Against better judgement but with a wildly still high tomato-meter reading, I went along to see Thor. It was a genuine blast! Tom's Marvel payday will keep him in puppy-food for a long time to come..
Sidenote, remember how I said that Tom should emulate Jeremy Irons' career path, and I mentioned a film he did called "M Butterfly" where a 1930s french diplomat falls in love with a beautiful chinese opera singer who is secretly a man? Well, Clive Owen stole my idea for Tom, and he is currently leading the "M Butterfly" revivial on Broadway. If Clive wins a Tony nomination or an award, Tom, that was your show.
I also saw T:R this afternoon. I enjoyed it, though >>279 Sosorry is correct that it's not a Loki story at all. (I think more could have been done with his arc if they hadn't moved Thor's character past caring much about him. I missed that emotional connection and tension between the two of them, which to me are what made at least Thor I more than a comic book movie. Here their relationship is mostly played for laughs.) Tom gets to do more comedy, but that's about it for character development.
Article referencing why Marvel didn't require Tom to do promo for Thor 3. And that maybe with a built-in fan base and a strong social media campaign presence, Marvel just doesn't need to pay for actors to fly round the world first class in order to plug their films. The comments are always fun.
New Early Man trailer and article here: http://people.com/movies/watch-new-trailer-early-man-creators-wallace-gromit/
So apparently that DeNiro imitation paid off for Tom! (Though the typo in the sentence makes it even funnier....)
Track titles from TS's album include "This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things," which sounds as if it's taken from the TH nannies' lament about other fans criticizing Tom and "driving him off" social media. Prepare for fandown meltdown in 3 - 2 - 1....\\
THids did get a puppy. Torilla has pics up. It's a really cute pup! Maybe it'll help him land better roles? lol Just joking. But it really is a very cute puppy. Tom looks his usual self in his usual uniform plus his grey hoodie and that black coat.
Well, TH must be expecting the worst from TS's album drop, because he did a pap stroll with The Puppy! Pix are on Torilla's and various of the Tom tumblrs (sorry, my phone isn't letting me link).
>>284>>285 Puppy pics below! Adorable dog. Tom looks like he is cradling his new pet for its dear life. He needs the unconditional emotional support, I think. Not sure if I buy his cold hard stare-down at the paps, since this looks like a planned pap walk. Am I glad that Tom's not hiding from the album drop? Am I wary that people will link his new photos to infantile pop song lyrics, and compare his puppy pics to you know who's eventual pap walk her new new fauxbeau, Joe Alwyn? Its a puzzlement. The bottom line is that I want more drama from Tom on stage and screen, and less drama in real life.
>>286 His puppy is really cute. I love those eyes, so frickin adorable! Perhaps he did get the puppy to ward off all the negativity he'd been feeling post-Hiddleswift. How much you wanna bet Swift will try to incorporate her own pets into her pap walk with Joe? Her album doesn't release until tomorrow but I saw the lyrics to two of her songs from a bootlegged copy which seem to say she admits to using Tom but also laying the blame for it squarely on his shoulders. I've never been good at interpreting Taylor Swift sings because tbh they sound super high school and I can never tell who she's singing about. Even right now with the supposed Tom song, the lyrics read very high school angst to me. I guess that's her thing though.
>>288 I assumed the hair looked lighter because he washed it lol I'm sorry but his long curls looked very unwashed during the Thor3 promos (he looked unwashed but that's mostly because of the same sweater and jeans combo every single time), looked like either natural hair oil buildup or lots of hair product to tame the curls. You could be right that it's most likely a filter.
>>289 Yes, I know exactly what you mean. He looked grubby - I don't like the long hair and unkempt beard combo. You can have one but not the other. Or you can be Jason Momoa but nobody else.
In these photos he looks a lot better - same clothes but cleaner somehow. Not like he picked them off the floor but maybe like he washed and ironed them.
>>290 I think he just got a puppy because he wanted one, not because he's got a girlfriend. Based on previous observations, I'd say he's still single. He usually dresses better when he's with someone. Like when he was with JA, EO, and TS, he put some effort and kept himself clean and his clothes varied a bit even if it was between 3-4 of the same outfits. Right now it looks like he's not making any effort at all. He probably looks a little clean right now because he was working up until recently. I won't be surprised if the beard and unwashed curls come back.
>>290 I think the more important question is does the puppy want to sleep in his human's bed considering hygiene issues? Please for the love of all that's sanitary, let this man be keeping his house clean and doing his laundry.
>>291 Yeah, I am not getting a "settling down with my gf" puppy feel. More like, I will never work abroad long term again so at least I can enjoy owning a dog.
I am definitely getting an "I did a pap stroll with my puppy" feel though. Am I too cynical?
>>292 I bet it is a slum. He is single and 36 and straight. He said something once about doing his own cleaning (!!). My personal experience is that men falling into this category change the sheets only when hoping for sex.
OMG! The press has reported that Tom has finally moved on from TS b/c he has been spotted cuddling with a beautiful brunette, his puppy! Tee hee! Don't let the bstards get you down Tom! Snuggle with little Bobby and dream of storming the Oscar stage one day, after all of this nonsense has subsided.
>>287 I want to see TS and the new toy boy carrying some of her cats on the pap stroll!
After skimming through all the album lyrics, it seems that one song is all about Tom (Getaway Car), one song disses both him and Calvin (I Did Something Bad), and a couple of others also reference them both ("older men," "Land Rovers and Jaguars"). See https://genius.com/albums/Taylor-swift/Reputation
>>293 Considering what a mess Hollywood currently is, it might be a good idea for him to steer clear. Way too much instability going on currently. Going after the usual biggies for roles is kinda moot at this point.
>>296 Yeah, I wouldn't mind rolling around in some Tom myself ;) (provided he bathes first and changes his sheets)
>>296 To get a pedigree pup in the UK you usually have to say you want a pup while mum is pregnant, or when the pups are tiny. Friends of mine have often gone to see the litter when the pups are 4 weeks old to choose which one they want. They then pick it up some weeks later when it is old enough to leave mum. I don't think this is a spur of the moment thing. If the dog was 9 weeks old when the stalker saw him 2 weeks ago it was born in late August and he probably committed to it during or just after the Hamlet run.
And the dailymail has an article with Tom dancing at the Met Ball, and wearing the heart tank top on the July 4th party, and with TS in Australia, alongside the Getaway Car lyrics. No puppy pics so far. At least the article mentioned that Tom had been formerly private before in his lifestyle. Their entire PR relationship was geared toward selling this album with this gross narrative, as we predicted as soon as we saw the staged beach photos in Rhode Island. The comments are great. The general public isn't buying into any of this silliness. Bonnie never left Clyde in a motel bar, b/c they were actual parters and she was the only member of his gang that he trusted implicitly! And they never saw each other again after the LA dinner at Hillstone. I'm just glad that Thor 3 is not mentioned, and that the DM didn't link the article to Vanity Fair's article featuring Tom as Clyde Barrow w Felicity Jones.
>>299 Ah, I didn't know that timing for reserving a puppy. Still, he probably knew even then that he wouldn't be doing much promo for T:R or filming in Atlanta in this round. So this probably was the best time for him to take the puppy plunge. And a good thing too, because those pix are currently above the many, many Reputation articles in his search results.
Awww, puppy's first pap stroll. :(
>>288 It says he's not sensible. As to cynicism, let us remember that this is a man who pap strolled with his mother, sister and young niece in order to legitimize a blatantly faux relationship. Would he get a dog to have something cute to deflect from Tayto-become-music? I do not doubt that he would. He pretended to be in a relationship with someone for exposure. What's a dog compared to that? How's that for cynical!
Is he nesting or co-parenting the pup with someone? I don't know. He's always seemed a playboy/serial dater to me, two/three on the go, as casual as causal could be. That doesn't change overnight. So while I don't doubt he's 'seeing someone' I don't think she's become a new puppy mommy.
Gossip Cop response from Team Tom below.
>>304 Yep. Tom is too naive to run in the media games of Hollywood. Unlke Calvin Harris who wasn't afraid to clap back by not only defending his song cowriting and producing skills on his Rihanna song with TS, but tweeted that TS controls all of the media and that TS fans who want to believe a fictional sanitized version of TS exist in real life, just need to grow up, and then he claimed his phone had been stolen! Ha! Ballsy.
Oddly, I am currently eating in the Santa Monica location of Hillstone restaurant, where Tom and TS had their last interaction in their fauxmance. FYI, lots of families enjoying the holiday eating burgers and fries, and no paparazzi in sight : )
Why does Lainey hate TH so much?
>>307 B/c Lainey is in the pockets of Team TS. And she gives Lainey, People, US magazine, and Rolling stone scoops. And they get a lot of TS fans to click to their online sights b/c of her. TS is just like most other young artists today. They worked hard, wrote a few good songs by themselves as youngsters, and now they have teams of songwriters and gossip rags, and a even a few newspapers editors who inflate the ratings of their new albums, in their pockets to help ensure their success. So much money is used to promote their careers that they are too big to fail. That line about Tom being too thirsty for PR was always her strategy to hurt Tom. Sad that he wasn't wise enough to stay the heck away from PR relationships in Hollywood, b/c you have to be reality tv star, or young pop star greedy/catty/petty and capable of lying well, to survive them intact. The puppy pap walk has been used by Affleck and Liv Schreiber in their post relationship PR battles, so it was a bit of a tired move from his team. Tom's absence from Marvel Thor 3 promotion was part of Marvel's plan to spend less money flying and housing actors first class around the world, and instead rely on a very controlled social media campaign and their established fan base to increase their profits. If Marvel had wanted Tom for more PR, he couldn't have gotten out of it, if he was contractually obligated to be there.
From a gossip column in today's Times:
"Tom Hiddleston’s diary is enough to make the most hardened workaholic feel like a slacker. The actor has just played Hamlet on stage, and, even though his latest film, Thor: Ragnarok, is still in cinemas, he is already working on the fourth Avengers flick. So it’s little wonder that he wants to escape the rat race. My mole tells me Hiddleston, 36, is ditching London for the country, and has his eye on pads in East Sussex. He’d feel right at home — his Thor co-star Cate Blanchett has a 13-acre pile in Crowborough."
Personally I think Suffolk is more likely, as E Sussex is a long way from both parents (Suffolk and Oxford respectively). Maybe it's an error/mishearing, or maybe deliberate misinformation.
>>310 Probably could be buying a country home instead of uprooting from London altogether. I don't think his acting ambitions have changed so I don't see him leaving London. A country home is more space for his growing puppy and also provides a quiet place for him from his constantly stalking fans that hang around his neighborhood.
Taffy Akner, authoress of the much debated TH GQ article, expresses her twitter feelings of why people supposedly like the petty music of Taylor Swift. Taffy knows how to self-promote, my gosh!
Taffy Brodesser-AknerVerified account @taffyakner 4h4 hours ago
A friendly, sweeping and therefore undoubtedly flawed reminder. Thanks, Taff.
>>312, >>313 And in other Taffy/TH news, who should be interviewed on a podcast and say more about Tom and the "mystery brunette" DM story but Ms. TA: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/write-about-now/id1286555942?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
Two articles below from The Hollywood Reporter. The first says that AMC, the Ink Factory, and the BBC have greenlit John le Carre's The Little Drummer Girl, and mentions how successful TNM was, worldwide. The Night Manager 2 is mentioned in the second link, and it is still in early development, apparently. Methinks that idea needs not to happen. Tom should think like Elsa in Frozen and Let it Go. The second article talks about why limited series shows are given additional seasons. That's obvious. Avarice and greed.
>>316 Also, as one exec quoted in the 2nd article says, "It’s easier to expand an existing brand than to create one in the first place." In other words, lack of originality or desire to take risks, also known as fear of losing money and face.
Here is the Sir Kenneth Branagh "Happy Sad Confused" podcast with Josh Horowitz on MTV. He talks about casting Thor 1, Tom, and Chris Hemsworth at 23 minutes, and his 4 hour film production of Hamlet w Kate Winslet, Julie Christie, etc. Apparently Sir Ken might star in a version of Macbeth directed by Martin Scorsese. If so, Tom should try to nab a part in that film. Fassbender already mucked it up. I'm determined that someone has to be the first actor to win an OScar for a Shakespearean performance since Olivier for Halmet in 1949.
Taffy B-A returns to the Hiddlecow to milk yet more from her one interview!
I am beginning to think she called the paps herself.
Apparently Hiddleston, Coleman, and co are in negotations for The Night Manager 2. Hmm... I do not like this. There is no more night to manage. Period. Unless they have someone of JJ Abrams levels of imagination and innovation to build a new story, and an award winning writer to spin a tale like his life depended on it, I would be truly concerned.
>>321 It sounded to me like the same stuff that various people from the first series have been saying for a while: "it will only be done if it can be the same quality as the first one...." I suspect this will never come to pass, because by the time they can develop something really good, the director and major cast members will have other commitments. (Unless they do "The Night Manager - 10 Years After," hee hee.)
One of the major cast members might not have any commitments....
Maybe he's decided to stick with the proven over the uncertain. From now on he'll only do Marvel movies, ticket-balloted Shakespeare plays with three week runs and Night Manager sequels...and pap walks with puppies, never fake girlfriends or GQ writers.
>>323 So can we call it now? Is he officially a Has-Been? One-Hit Wonder?
My oh my! Kenneth Branagh might be signing on to direct and star in another Poirot detective film, Death on the Nile! Tom must grab the starring role of Simon Doyle, who may be a victim of a heinous crime, or the murderer, himself. The story is about a gruesome love triangle that develops between a wealthy heiress, her brand new dashingly handsome and previously impoverished husband (hopefully Tom), and his heartbroken ex fiancee. It all takes place on a paddle steamer traveling down the Nile, and someone ends up dead. I think a handsomely made, well cast period ensemble piece, would be a good fit for him. Or, Tom should head to France and grab Isabelle Hupert for a steamy french thriller. A May-December romance film with her would rock!
And we have a cornucopia of puppy-walking photos with Tom and Bobby! They are strolling in the park with Tom's Hamlet costar, noted playwright/actress Lolita Chakrabarti (who played Gertrude), who is married to the phenomenal thespian Adrian Lester. Lester starred in Branagh's 1930's set film jukebox musical production of Shakespeare's "Love's Labour's Lost" featuring Alicia Silverstone (embarrassingly.)
>>326 You beat me to it! I wonder if Ms. C is the one holding Bobby's leash because Tom was waving his hands around too much and confusing the pup? Also, that dog has huge paws!
>>327 And now, apparently Lolita Chakrabarti's nickname is Bobbie! So maybe Tom was talking to Lolita in the coffee shop w his new puppy, and his puppy's name is yet, unknown. What a mystery. Let's protect the privacy of the puppy as it begins to navigate the pernicious eyes the celebrity press.
I think Lolita Chakrabarti is Tom's current Ken B. She was pictured next to him at that theater opening and she is a producer/ playwright. Since he's having trouble landing movies right now, he's most likely aiming at plays. Could be they are working on a project together and pitching it together looking fir investors. Would explain them hanging out. I think it's all professional. Unless she's left her husband and holy scandal THids, being the other dude again? Jk, I highly doubt it.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone Stateside! 🦃
We don't get the day off and the turkey but thank you for giving the UK some extra sales for our Christmas shopping!!
Thank you Anon. I don't know about anyone else, but I ate well.
>>328 So it appears that the pupper is called Bobby/Bobbie (spelling is not confirmed) according to one of a number of twitter users running into TH on the street (once with BC and SH over the weekend) or on the Tube.
Avengers IW trailer w an intense shot of Loki/Tom holding the tesseract. Is it odd that I enjoy the stand alone films much more than the Avenger group efforts?
Okay, The Night Manager 2 officially has a writer, Matthew Orton. His resume seems rather limited on imdb.com Is a sequel really necessary? Not really sure what I'm hoping will happen with this project. Haven't read a word about Ben Wheatley's Hard-Boiled adaptation, in a whole year.
>>333 The production keeps saying it's going to be a slowly developing project so they probably need to figure out the direction they want to take season 2 in. I mean if they're lucky it could turn out to be a successful season 2. If not then ouch. Also, is Tom even attached to s2? It doesn't sound like he's been signed on yet. He said he'd consider it, definitely not a confirmation.
Does Orton have a twitter? Watch for the telltale follow from TH. That's as good an indication that he's involved as a snap of the actual contract.
Is it necessary? No. But looks like they'll do it. As has been mentioned: the greenback talks.
>>332 Not odd at all. The first time I watched Avengers I, I found it rather overwhelming with all the characters. I found Age of Ultron confusing and boring, and I haven't made myself watch Civil War yet. I think IW and A4 have "hot mess" potential.
I did make it through TNM's first season, but it was hard going for the last few episodes when it got so ridiculous. In some ways, they might be better off with original material for a second season.
>>335 With KSI, it turns out that what he probably was pitched by Legendary during the CP shoot was not what Warner wanted in the final script - see this from the screenwriter: https://screenrant.com/kong-skull-island-characters-deleted-backstory/. It does explain why he seems miscast or overacting in that role.
Big news - we have confirmation that the pup (HiddlesBob? BobSton?) is his: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgballardandart/permalink/602027433476714/
I do like that he asked this J.G. Ballard scholar to emphasise to her students "that he wasn’t eating his dog"!
So I step away from the board for a week and you all get busy posting!
>>334 I bought the series on iTunes planning to rewatch on a long flight earlier this year, as a lot of the episodes had been watched over dinner, in a slight rush etc. I had enjoyed it but I thought I’d give it a better chance to concentrate on it. Big mistake. It was so lumpen, and TH’s performance felt positively wooden. I didn’t make it to the end of Ep 2. I was surprised how badly it stood up to a second watch.
And I haven’t seen Ragnarok. I am a bad fan!
>>340 Tbh, I was very surprised when Susanne Bier won for best directing. She did a respectable job on TNM but best? I'm not sure...I did try to give TNM another chance but the whole thing felt so stiff and cliche to me. Sorry to all those who loved TNM but I couldn't get into it. Though Tom looked amazingly hot in it. No arguments there. I loved looking at the stills and short TV spots from it lol
>>335 That's what I'm wondering. Unless he's matured a bit, he probably will sign up for it even if it's a shit script. I really hope he doesn't pull an ISTL 2.0 with this.
>>344 You've answered your own question, Sosorry. He starred in two franchises, with tons of other people, and he didn't stand out. In Kong JCR was the stand out according to most critics. In Thor it was Tessa Thompson. So he wasn't responsible for that money and won't benefit directly from that box office success. The TNM splashed in the UK but barely bubbled in the US, again little benefit to him. His GG was tarnished slightly by his speech but more by the fact that every other major award went to Vance and TPvOJ (and rightly so) while TNM swept the GGs in the major acting categories; the win seemed more like an anomaly. And Hamlet...to 25 people.
I liked TNM. It lagged at times, was wholly improbable both in plot and details - knowing even a little about military hardware makes that shopping list he photocopies pure comedy gold - but it was entertaining. TH himself was too. There were some hammy moments and that chuckle was the stuff of nightmares, but it was a solid performance.
I'm a bit scared to post this but it's too good not to.
I just did a job with an old friend who worked on TR. She couldn't stand Tom. Called him a ponce. Said he constantly bragged about being the next Bond and whinged about the hot sun. Not a bad word was said about anyone else, except some erratic steroid induced mood fluctuations from the lead. I've always agreed with her opinions on people.
Hi Anonon! Thanks for sharing. Steroid induced mood fluctuations, ha ha!
The old posh English charm often doesn't go down well with Australians. There was a lot of head shaking and screwing up of her face with utmost displeasure. Could be Tayto induced but seemed more of a general disposition. In terms of the party line, let's just say this person hears much more than anyone else on set and most crew are very tight lipped about gossip. I am being very very bad. Hope this doesn't bite me in the arse
>>348 I believe it. He dated Taylor Swift after all. There had to be some common ground there.
>>350 I don't think it's Tayto induced. I think it's part of his normal personality. It really showed during his earlier Thor 1 interviews but he learned to reign it in after that.
>>352 Do you mean those very old interviews where he was joking about having Moljnr in his pants? I don’t recall many from those days (pre fandom..!)
I could believe every word of this “tea” except him bragging about being the next Bond. He wouldn’t brag about it unless the contract has been signed already. He wanted it too badly to risk jinxing it. I could see him downplaying his interest/hopes of playing Bond for fear of losing yet another role after casting, or being bitter after finding out that DC will continue as Bond, but bragging, no.
Your friend should have kept her tea simpler. The man has been several time to Africa and visited his sister in India often enough when she lived there, he would never whine about the hot sun.
This board posters are so Tayto induced now, they can't even spot bullshit anymore, you are as reliable as Toby.
>>353 No, I was talking about the ones from Comic Con 2010. The one on one interviews where he's sitting with a group of reporters. I think he says the pole dancing line in it. You can see glimpses of that guy Anonon's friend was taking about. Though I do think he might have been bragging more about how everyone keeps calling him the new Bond rather than saying he is the new Bond, just because it's a set and ppl know ppl.
Well, anonon has been posting on here for a long time - about 18 months at least, if not longer. If she has been waiting to build up to posting this one piece of tea then she has been playing a very long game indeed.
We have had the odd visitor offering not especially convincing stories. They usually appear and post a few times before producing their tea, then disappear again.
>>358 Maybe Anonon can give pointers to Tom on playing the long game to prep for s2 of TNM lol
Using the word “butthurt” in an argument on the Internet is only one step up from Godwin’s Law.
Also glad to see that as per usual the moaners claim to think what we write is shite, simultaneously with revealing that they come here and read it all, and care enough to comment.
Fake Couch with a VPN, if you would care to lurk thoroughly and read back through the boards when TR was being shot, I mentioned then that I knew colleagues on the crew. I said back then that it would take time until they felt safe enough to talk and I would endeavour to report back if there was any mention of Tom.
There's nothing like an away job with a pub meal to get tongues a wagging.
Also we don't have an ozone layer here so the sun is punishing and they were shooting through the Qld blistering hot summer.
Anywho, I'm not responding to the unhinged lurker any more.
>>363 It’s good to see you back. Should have said earlier.
Pursegate! That was summer 2015. You’ve been around a lot longer than 18 months.
>>361 I don't even get all indignation and rage. What Anonon shared isn't shady or salacious at all. It's not even that offensive. I thought it was funny. Would've loved to see the co-worker's impression of TH lol
>>365 I first became aware of TH as what the lawyers call a “person of interest” in summer 14 when I watched Thor (which was ages after I had seen him in Coriolanus!!). Found this board fairly soon after but didn’t really start posting until about Feb the following year - in response to some rubbish put about on the nw3anon blog. I was more sceptical about tea then, before Tayto (joke). I started posting regularly at Pursegate - happy days! So many of us became regulars at that point. That’s when Anon. also started as a regular visitor.
It really is funny although my mouth was hugely agape while she told me. The Bond thing is unexpected and the fact that he bragged about what a great Bond he would be does not at all mean he has been promised the role, it just means that the whole time he complained in interviews about the Bond hype, he was milking it hard from behind the scenes. He's obviously hangry for the role. We all knew that anyway.
>>367 I wonder if his ego wasn't all over the place during the TR shoot thanks to Tayto and its aftermath, and that might have brought out the less flattering aspects of his personality. (If I remember rightly, Anonon, you're in the biz; so as you know, it can take a heck of a lot less stress for an actor to start "acting out"!)
I’ve been here since thread 1, so idk whom you are trying to impress with your longevity. Pursegate! Pfft. How about Jane Arthy? Ever thought that maybe some people here have different perceptions of Tom because they became interested in him BEFORE Tayto?
>>366 I started getting into him because of the Hollow Crown. I thought he was a handsome actor who really had some serious acting chops which is why I'm so surprised at how much he struggles to land a decent project and of course, his current drought of projects.
>>368 I'm American too, but I think "ponce" means (in its politest use) "effeminate."
I absolutely agree that he doesn't listen to his team or take advice much if at all, at least until (perhaps) quite recently. Tayto is even better proof of that. Here's hoping that Kenneth Branagh knocked some sense into him while they were planning and doing RadHam. And the lack of work might get through to him too....
>>368 These aktorrs do tend to be more fragile than us normal humans although some are allround solid. As its not my personal opinion that he's a whingeing bragging ponce I won't hang him by it. If I hear similar feedback from others that worked with TH then I'll struggle to be impartial.
It's impossible to hide annoying personality traits on film sets, its like camping together for months. Personality clashes are rife. I also dropped a big clue; this person HEARS MORE than other crew members.For instance I thought everyone got along famously on the shoot we just finished but she informed me the DP and director were fighting.
>>372 Ah, I know which department your friend worked in then.
Makes sense about the umbrella; it was just funny because the crew member wasn't even wearing a hat. (But then, neither did he have to spend several hours in makeup in the wee hours of the AM.)
>>371 Effeminate? Really? That's interesting. Tbh, I have only one British friend and whenever they have used ponce it's usually been with those hipster dude bros who are up their own ass with the mansplaining. Effeminate they are not lol
Let's hope so he's listening to the professionals around him now.
Welcome back Anonon. I think I get the gist of where your friend worked.
I've never heard the term 'ponce.' The report of whinging fits in with some gossip at the end of the relationship that TS's stylist hated TH because they thought he was a stuck up know-it-all. Said stylist was later attributed in the same gossip site as saying that it wasn't true.
>>376 In Withnail and I, our heroes head to the pub after “I” (Paul McGann) has had a bath into which he has unwisely poured a whole jar of bath salts. They are approached by a drunken Irishman spoiling for a fight, who calls “I” a “perfumed ponce.” There isn’t much doubt what he means by this.
All these posts! I thought he'd gotten engaged...or gotten an actual job. I see neither is the case. Instead a board regular has come along and posted something completely believable and it's set a hare running through the lurking nannies.
Why I believe Anonon’s friend: Humblebragging - it’s a thing TH knows intimately, as NewAnon said. He’s always done it, even before the humblebrag to end all: his GG speech. I can imagine him doing his version of Bond humblebragging. The rumor mill tells us he did a tape with Mendes that maybe got to Broccoli, maybe he spoke to her regarding it, everyone was hyping him as the next Bond, his face was everywhere because of Tayto. He’s going to talk about those. He’s going to humblebrag about them - because if he can do it in a room full of Hollywood elite on national television, he can do it standing around set. No he’s not going to flat out say that he’s going to be the next Bond, but he’s going to imply it like it’s part of some crazy wish fulfilment process.
>>379 I believe Anonon's friend, but agree with you and another poster above that he's more likely to have been bragging about all the talk about his being the next Bond rather than about actually having gotten the role. From my past experience, many actors are highly superstitious about talking about a role for which they're being considered until they're signed, for fear of jinxing it. And if he had been in discussions for Bond, wouldn't he have had to sign an NDA? All that said, I can see him being silly enough to humblebrag about being in the running for it between takes when he thought he couldn't be overheard.
I don't think there would be an NDA if it only went as far as TH sending BB his tape, BB acknowledging the receipt of it and saying something along the lines of 'we'll be in touch.' Of course that in TH's brain (well-practiced in cognitive dissonance and soaked in all the crazy of those Tayto days) would equal 'I've auditioned for Bond and Babs and I are in talks about it.'
I believe Anonon because like everyone else said he has a history of humblebragging and being an overly conceited braggert. I always suspected it and the GG speech confirmed it.
I didn't find him that bad in the Thor 1 promo. As a matter of fact, he was more natural in a way. Its when Avengers promo started he started his overly artificial Disney Prince routine that i couldn't stand.
>>378 'Incompetent truffle pigs'. Dotty you always nail it.
As is the case with secondhand information, it is likely I'm not relaying it correctly. We were all laughing quite hard throughout the imitations. I recall she said he annoyed the fuck out of the whole crew with his Bond bragging (he could have just been imitating Bond, who knows) and then she imitated him imitating being Bond and threw in an imitation of him whingeing about the sun.
>>383 One thing that supports the sun whingeing - he started shooting right after the infamous July 4 party. Remember the pictures of Tayto arriving at the Sydney airport and his face was lobster-red? He might literally have been sensitive to any more sun exposure after that. Doesn't excuse the whingeing, though.
>>384 He should have been flushed red from embarrassment after that parade.
It's also highly likely that the reason he had such a long makeup call each morning was to camouflage his tan.
Most actors would deliberately avoid sun before a pale shoot to help things along. The ones that do the opposite with the attitude 'this is how I am, deal with it' for obvious reasons are never my favs and I am prone to giving them a sermon. Sunburnt skin is the hardest to cover. What an arse.
>>383 This just proves what Barbara Broccoli said about Tom; that he's too smug and too weak to play Bond.
He sounds like an egomaniac. He honestly thought he had the Bond role. But his over ambition really got the best of him after his little height of fame and praise with The Night Manager. I could only imagine if he was up for an Oscar or any other sought after role.
>>385 Maybe he's so jaded being known for Loki for so long that he doesn't feel the need to make any effort since the fangirls eat it up no matter what. That wig he's wearing in Ragnarok is awful.
>>385 I read this and then remembered that he had only been twatting around for THREE weeks at this point. Felt like an eternity, didn't it? He had to pick between contracts. Either stay out of the sun and fulfill his Marvel contract or romp in the surf to fulfill his Tayto contract.
>>386 What have you seen about how he's been treating some of his fans lately? I've only read anecdotes about him politely refusing to have his picture taken with random people who approach him. But they've all said some variant of how nice he was in chatting with them.
Wow! Quite a discussion. Cool article on all of the costumes of Thor 3, by the costume desigenr Mayes C Rubeo, including why Loki's costume changes colour in the film due to his emotional arc, and how Chris Hemsworth's body armor was sculpted to fit his body!
I think it's thoroughly possible that Tom complained about the sun. We all get cranky, and we all have emotional limits. He can't be courteous/charming/amenable in any situation. And mannered Englishmen aren't everyone's cup of tea. I have a good gal pal who thinks that the sort of refined countenance of most British male actors (Eddie Redmayne, Matt Smith, Tom, etc) makes them all come off as effeminate, due to their posture, vocal quality, and hand gestures! I'd find it fascinating if Tom actually thought he could land Bond, even as the whole fauxmance with TS went tits up! Or whether Taffy (the GQ article authoress) was correct in her assessment that Tom enjoys doing impressions not to entertain others, but rather to personally revel in his own systematically developed performance capabilities?
>>391 Nice picture of him! Wonder if that's his sister Emma, who's also listed as a reader. (Compare their noses.)
>>392 I don’t think it is. Have a look at the pics of her in that article by her I posted a few weeks ago.
>>393 Sorry I thought you meant Sarah. Emma is quite a lot younger than that lady.
>>392 Heynon, here is Emma:
>>396 I had that impression as well. There was an article recently-ish which describes Emma as a midwife. It came from one of those round table press junket interviews so it could have been someone making a mistake - as people have pointed out you get 10 slightly different versions of the same quote. But I thought it was an oddly specific mistake to make, meaning hard to mishear for something else.
I thought it was in GQ. I can't bear to look or give that article another click but wasn't it when he was gushing about his solidly middle class upbringing. Eyes set to roll.
Surely Taff wouldn't get that wrong. Eyes commencing roll maneuver.
Good to see gossip sites haven't forgotten our sun-hating recluse. Right?
>>400 The commenters are proposing every other actor you can think of for Bond - except Tom....
At the 2017 BFI Luminous Gala:
I took a look at our favorite anon site over the weekend. He or she claims he has a second home. The rest was cryptic, back to implying a secret gf. At least that was my take on it.
>>403 my take on that was that the “second home of sorts” was referring to visiting the GF out of London. FWIW.
Snippet of Tom recording a Hamlet speech in this vid: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3dWiOYnXpE
>>405 I can't watch the video where I am but let me take a stab in the dark: he looks like the most earnest man ever.
Was it for Rada pr? Is he holding a 🐶 while doing it?
>>406 I think something happened with the original link. They are both for this Dragon School audio poetry anthology, but the one with Tom is here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJp1q7BI7tc&feature=youtu.be
Not too much earnestness actually. He seemed pretty comfortable with it. No dog but terrible beard and homeless person hair.
>>407 I'm glad i'm not the only one who finds that look of his terrible. Every fangirl who saw pix of him at the Thor Ragnarok premiere was saying how good he looked. He looked incredibly old with bed hair and a dad beard.
Who wants to bet this is the speech he 'gifted' to the newlyweds? Re-gifter! He's like a really crap Oprah: 'You get my Hamlet speech! You get my Hamlet speech! Everyone gets my Hamlet speech!'
I venture that he'll grab a few copies and they'll find their way under a few Christmas trees. Luke knows what he's getting! Olly's probably off the list, along with Tay, his American team and his speech writer.
Interesting reading of the speech; I'd love to hear more of it. The hair doesn't bother me too much (at that length, mine would do much the same), but he'd look much tidier if he dealt with the patchy cheek fuzz! And the unflattering lighting doesn't help.
And now TS's paid flunkie, broadway actor Todrick Hall, has stated that Tom turned TS into a hunchback like Quasimodo! Todrick alleges that TS would slump over and hunch every time he brought up Tom's name. Maybe this is b/c Tom and TS had a fauxmance which Tom managed to miraculouly extricate himself from, months ahead of schedule! Her new faux bf (who is sadly in the closet) is happy to hide in hoodies at airports, and color coordinate clothes with TS during hand holding pap walks as long as he books hollywood acting jobs. Hard to argue that Tom is a famehore when he's in London, performing Shakespeare for 2 roomfuls of people, MIA with his puppy, and not mentioning her name at all.
>>411 I read that mess, where Hall never positively IDs who the ex is, which leaves it open to interpretation - TH or CH - the speculation of which seems designed to only hurt TH, but for what reason? As a bday present for TS? He has nothing coming up except Early Man.
>>411 Hahahah. I eagerly await the GC denials. 'No, Taylor does not slump her shoulders. Miss Swift's shoulders and posture are second to none.' The public donation to an osteoporosis charity will follow.
Just more proof that Tayto was a Mess-o and Fail-o. Your pop-up relationship didn't manage to avert peoples' attentions from your lies and hypocrisy. Better luck next time, Taylor.
We should open up bets for when he'll actually announce something or IF he'll announce something. Is Tumblr still using the 'Marvel Excuse,' I.e., he's been too busy with Loki to do another film?
Will he show at the site of his most recent triumph/PR disaster: the GGs? Do previous winners usually present? Attend?
>>413 Yep. I should have said that Tom was not the sole famewhore of the situation. He did not use and abuse the delicate flower that Taylor Swfit pretends to be for the public. HS was a mutual use, and Baby Joe has next.
>>414 I don't see any GG nominations for King Kong. But Tom could win a Teen Choice Award for best Actor in a Sci-Fi film to add to his awards cache. Dear me. We've gone from Olivier award best newcomer, and Golden Globe best actor limited series back to teen awards like MTV and Teen Choice. Hmmm...Must process this.
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Tom seems to be losing by almost ten percentage points to Shawn Mendes in the GQ Most Stylish Man of 2017. Voting is still going on, if anyone is interested. Tom made it to the finals before he lost to Prince Federer, last year.
>>418 Guess the Tumblr please to vote him up aren't working!
Hard to muster up any concern over stuff like this when he seems to be MIA. His out of sight, out of mind campaign is successful.
Shows how desperate some Tumblrinas are getting.
Maybe his campaign has been a little too successful, with no new project announcements?
10 second TH video introducing the Early Man trailer.
Despsite being MIA from the world of pop culture, TH has made it to the finals of GQ's Most Stylish of 2017 versus Harry Styles. Tom is beating Harry by only 1.8%. Harry fauxmanced with Swift long ago, but he co-starred in the golden-globe nominated Dunkirk movie and he has a brand new album out this year, whereas Tom starred in Hamlet (sadly performing it for only a few drawing rooms full of people) and he only has an animated film coming out this winter. So dollars to donuts, GQ must be hoping that Harry will win.
Apparently Taffy Akner, the authoress of TH's GQ article about heartbreak and bolognese sauce, is still using Tom for clicks on twitter. She urged voters to vote for Tom over Harry Styles for 2017's Most Stylish Man. Tom just won, btw. Craziness.
Yours Truly's response:
Taffy really needs to stop. She's sounding like unrequited lovestruck teenager everytime she mentions Tom. It's embarrassing.
>>426 “Now he’s one of the most in demand actors.”
I want what they’re smoking.
She has a IV drip straight into her vein with nothing but Tom's Kool-Aid. A grown woman, whose married with kids btw, acting like a lovestruck teen.
Tom must think Taffy and him are friends, or that Taffy has a shot with him since she loves that the Daily Fail mistook her for his new girlfriend LOL!
So Tom's been in two of the biggest box office films this year. He won a Golden Globe for a third production and got great reviews in Hamlet. Only in the minds of the very insane and deluded is he not an in-demand actor. You are all butthurt bitches who can't get over him blocking you on Twitter.
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The phrase 'in-demand' in the film industry means people want to work with you. Since you are in-demand, people send you scripts, they ask for meetings and pitch projects to you, they seek you out. Out of that absolute avalanche of material and work - you're in-demand after all - you take your pick of the best and most promising. You secure work. That work is then announced and produced. Besides for some brief Marvel filming and voice work, Tom has announced nothing and produced nothing in 2017 except a three week run of a play for his alma mater and mentor.
I popped in to say merry Christmas and faecal matter has splattered the board again. Oh the irony of throwing around the words 'insane' and 'deluded'. I don't think you understand that Hamlet wasn't officially reviewed. He may as well have performed it in his mothers loungeroom. I'm not on twitter, never have been. Keep fighting the good fight, I'm sure he will thank you personally.
Tom is a one-hit wonder, lets face it. I'd be surprise if we hear about him after his Loki stint is officially over. You have better Brit actors like Tom Hardy securing roles left and right without lowering themselves to be tabloid fodder.
The opposite of hate is indifference. You people care. You care entirely too much what happens in his life and his career. You can't let him go. You spend endless hours here celebrating every vicious comment, every negative item, stewing in your own venom. Thread after thread after thread, comment after comment after comment. You are here constantly. It is you who has no life other than to somehow try and do what exactly? Surely you must see that there is no other thread let alone repeated ones for anyone other than Tom. That is obsession, not indifference. If there was a rehab for this sort of thing, I'd suggest that you all book yourselves in pronto. Instead, might I suggest you get the mental health treatment you so obviously need. Losing some weight (I guarantee you there is not a skinny one amongst you) and a makeover would also do you a world of good. Oh, and leave your house once in a decade would be helpful too. I'd wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year but your stewing venom and bile shows me that you've never been Happy or Merry in your miserable lives.
The irony of people wishing merry xmas while spouting venom about another human being. Have you all asked Santa that he would finally disappear from the planet for good? After all he is such a low life. No surprise the old posters don't come here anymore, they are probably embarrassed at the cesspit this place has become.
Well, I suppose it wouldn’t be Christmas without a couple of grinches. They might want to think what it says about them that they have never posted here before, but deigned to stop by for the first time ever on 23 December in order to spout vitriolic hate about a board they claim to despise but have plainly read.
Here here Anon.
She sure did hate couch imposters and trolls.
Surely there's a Tumblr set up for farting in the wind 💨
The grinches sound like that ThiddyAstro TH super nanny. She's been currently going on a TS hate rampage on her blog and cherry picking with her astrology how TS is evil and TH is a victim and saint. The grinches sound exactly like her lunatic self
>>440 That's a bit stabby in the dark.
The Grinch is one person with several personalities, a VPN router and the mental acuity of a 12 year old.
My money is on Zhora, Beagle Bitch, Insanely Dumb, or Shaitana
They aren't satisfied with Tubmlr and want here to
Not all of Tom's nanny's are on Tumblr
Personally, I’m not interested in stirring up any hornet’s nest of speculation as to who the new visitors might be - any debate on that subject is all too easily used against the board by those who visit here and then carry tales elsewhere. I don’t want the attention on this board.
I don't want them coming here either. Let them have Tumblr. Here we can have honest discussion about Tom's vanishing career.
Very telling that TH's knight in shining armour, rather than rationally disputing my argument concerning his status as an actor, instead chose to go with the time-honored personal attack. Why argue with reason and facts when you can call someone fat and anti-social? That doesn't invalidate your argument at all.
Merry and much belated Christmas, y'all.
Did everyone get what they wanted from Santa? The in-laws gave us the usual: a very much appreciated check toward our mortgage. My parents gave us a wine and food box subscription. I sold my hair to buy hubby a watch chain...just kidding. He got new gloves, I got a pair of earrings. We were awful parents as junior got nothing new. We wrapped some of his toys so he could enjoy the experience of unwrapping things, which proved to be a hit with him. We're thinking we can keep that going for two more years. He liked unwrapping and lying under the tree and looking at the lights.
>>448 Merry/Happy belated Christmas and Boxing Day, and early Happy New Year, everyone!
Love the O. Henry reference - another reason this board rocks is that we get stuff like that. We had a small Christmas this year, which is fine; mostly books for me, with a few small surprises.
Happy Christmas, Happy New Year, and best wishes for 2018. I had a quiet Christmas, where my son came over for a couple of days. He got me some much needed throws for these cold days and nights. What I need is to get these drafty windows taken care of. Then I had a date with a new guy to see del Toro's "The Shape of Water." I recommend you all check it out. New Guy and I went out again Wednesday, and then again last night for the New Year's Eve. I guess I can say everything is going swimmingly.
Belated Happy Christmas, and Happy New Year to all! Just returned from the holidays with my family. And apparently there was a Tom sighting in London by an Italian girl on facebook, yesterday morning. She saw TH on a coffee run while she was eating breakfast, and she commented that he looked cute and available, whatever that means. Now, just hoping for a project announcement.
Apparently Tom didn't make the UK GQ 50 best dressed men of 2018 list by the magazine, despite being voted the American GQ Most Stylish Man of 2018 by the fans. Interessante.
Bit o' snark from the Guardian when mentioning Early Man? "Our paleolithic power couple prepare to unite the tribe against an evil predator, Lord Nooth, voiced, perhaps inevitably, by Tom Hiddleston." Inevitably because it's a villain role? Inevitably because he's been consigned to comic-book/animated movies?
TWH fan for 6 months and naive to how celebrity-Ness works. After finding multiple blogs/threads I'm now enlightened and now kinda heartbroken, disappointed and disillusioned. He's human, a faulted human male. My head is spinning, what to believe, what's true, what's B.S. Drugs, alcohol, s&m, gay/bi/tri, horndog, liar, exhibitionist, pretender, moody asshole. I'd like to go back to what I first believed, charming, gentleman, kind, articulate, honest, clean, noble...an enigma. I do feel bad for what's happened to his career and hope the best for him.
>>451 Three days on the hop? Woohoo. I can only dream of such a romantic social life! We stayed in on NYE like two (three) hermits. 'Too damn cold' was our joint opinion.
>>449 He wasn't really bothered with the unwrapping or the toys but he's in love with the tree. He's still staring at the lights like a zombie on LSD. We're a little afraid of what will happen when we take it down. Mother dearest: Suck it up. It can't be Christmas all the time, kid.
>>453 Any comment from Yours Truly after she crowed about the public vote? Didn't think so. But what do those people at GQ know about style, certain fans will say.
>>455 Say what you will about our status as fans, the Guardian officially hates him so whatever they meant by 'inevitably,' it's bound to be a dig.
>>450 If your FIL is willing to try cooking, I can recommend the "How to Cook Everything: The Basics" cookbook by Mark Bittman.
>>456 Welcome! I'm still a relatively new (since Aug. 2016) TH fan and I can relate to what you're experiencing. I also felt really confused/conflicted the more I read about him, but eventually I learned to ignore the way-out-there, extreme opinions and settle somewhere in the middle. And I also hope that his career comes out of the current apparent slump.
Hi all! Not sure how to drive this thread yet to tag responders. Thank you for the kind responses compared to other thread sites which were either vicious or oblivious. I prob should have called myself Clueless since TH is the only celeb I've ever dogged, so please bear with my questions.
Why is it such a big deal over who's dating who, admitting it, keeping it secret ( and I just heard of relationship contracts) wow.
>>459 oops I guess I figured out posting. Thanks for the advice too on what to believe etc
I wasn't a lurker here. As soon as I read the first page of threads I signed on cuz this is like my kind of Disney ride..up, down, fast slow but it doesn't kill you...does it make you puke!??!!!
I first met TH on CP. If my ex of 30 years ever looked at me like he looked at Edith in the toy room attic...we'd still be married and in bed..sigh. I'm 55 freaking yrs old, so a little embarrassed at crushing. I live in hell...I mean Phoenix. 4 months of 72 degrees then endless months of 120. My second meet was Istl which I liked..grew up on country music, and he did do a good job coming from a whole diff environment. Then I met Hal/Henry..so pretty...but had to use the closed caption to understand wth they were saying. Plus don't hear so good...what?
Ps. Dirty secret.......I coughed out a few bucks for autographed Loki pic and a Liddlehiddle coriolanus tee....no one knows about the pic
Allegedly Tom pulled out of buying this 4 million pound country pile in Wiltshire, which he had viewed 3 times, and which is owned by comedian Michael McIntyre. Friends say that this was b/c the deal didn't include some of the furniture from the house. Do friends talk to the media? I hope not. Anyway, the DM mentions the TS fauxmance, the heart tank top, etc. They even put the word romance in quotes to question its validity. Ouch. Can't wait to see pics of Tom attending the Early Man premiere coming up.
>>466 The house in question is pretty lovely. Pool, tennis court, pond, small garden, garden house...
>>466 Scooped again - you're good! The DM also loves to run unflattering pics of Tom with their stories, don't they?
If anyone missed it, the UK premiere for EM is this Sun., the 14th, and the 3 principals are confirmed as attending.
>>460 I think the reasons that it's a big deal about who he dates vary. For some, he's their Internet boyfriend, and they get distressed when he's linked with anyone. For others, it's interesting only for the question of whether the relationship is real, fake for publicity, or some combination. And every reason in between.
>>471thanks for the info. Poor TH..another kick to the noogies.
No new BFI building and no house. He needs some happy stuff.
Another unmentionable site says he has some jobs in the works but couldn't say what of course til it was a done deal. I hope so.
So someone saw him yesterday? I wonder how he really looked. Beardy T is ok if it's groomed, but bushy hair/beard screams feral wild man that's losing hope (or just lost comb and razor....)
Brutal slam on TH by the Express! I was looking up information about dreamy Grantchester, Happy Valley, and War and Peace star James Norton, who incidentally is Tom's RADA alumni mentee. Reportedly James can't ever get Tom on the phone (Tom has been quite busy with Hamlet and trying to rejuvenate his career, though.) And the Express states that after watching James Norton in his new show, McMafia, James could be the next Bond, as long as he avoids wearing a "tiny, tight white I Heart TS vest! " Dear me. Tom is MIA, and the UK press just won let that crazy PR summer go.
Hmmm. In the same way I felt/still feel odd about the dog, I now feel unsure about the house. That is a large outlay, even if a mortgage is involved. But I'm thinking more about the upkeep. On that sort of home it would be massive. If he didn't have the inclination to employ/pay for his erstwhile lady maid, how is he going to feel about gardeners, pool people, driveway people, tennis court people, unless he's going to be mowing, cleaning, spreading gravel himself! That's a lot of money for a man who doesn't seem to be working much, and really didn't have any huge paydays with his other films. I'd guess Kong was his biggest pay check to date. What, $5m, $10m, maybe even $20m (that seems unlikely)? Then tax, agent fees, etc.
Welcome Elvie! Enjoy the board.
>>466 Good spot Sosorry.
>>474 All of this. If it hadn’t been for the earlier story, that he was looking (which was a while ago, in another paper and thus not obviously a setup to make this sound truer) I would not have believed a word. This really isn’t an obvious choice for a single man, especially for one who is not really into interior design. Not is it the house for someone without a reasonably secure disposable income - though TH is someone who doesn’t care for his clothes, so maybe he isn’t focussed on issues like upkeep.
I wonder if he wants someone to think he's one of the beautiful, Cotswolds dwelling people with major bank. Someone of the female persuasion. 'Yes I fauxmanced, yes I wore that shirt...but look at my manshion!'
Maybe he's given up on acting and is now a dog sitter/waker who flips houses.
Now for another edition of Show or No.
Event: Golden Globes
Betting no show. Beard and hair too big to get out of house. Caveman furs still on live bear and Thor is using Ts club in place of mumu. He's currently being groomed but it will take til Early Man premier to get thru the hair.
>>477 I’m hoping no show. No real reason for him to be there publicly, and too much risk of him saying something dopey with the focus on anti-harassment.
>>478>>477 Tom was seen running this morning on Hampstead Heath! So I guess he's a no show for the golden globe awards tonight. I vote that he maintains his goatee. His War Horse Press Interviews looked very nice.
The Telegraph, ostensibly discussing James Norton for Bond, spends a chunk of time dissing TH and how he blew his chance thanks to Tayto: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/01/07/next-007-must-just-pretty-face/amp/
Bond may haunt his press coverage as much as TS will....
Apparently Tom got the Early Man french accent gig b/c Nick Park saw him do the impressions of DeNiro, etc. on the Graham Norton show in 2015. Okay...
I just finished all the Hiddleston threads. WOW. Some of you were are so spot on about some of the happenings. Made me shake my head a lot at TH. And I also laughed hard enough a few times to threaten undie change....old bladder easily startled by sudden laughter, coughing, sneezing, startlingly and 15 lb fat ass cats jumping on it.
Sad that TH is no longer active on twitter since his phenomenal director in Crimson Peak, Guillermo Del Toro, won a Golden Globe Award for his new film The Shape of Water, last night! I only wish that CP had had a better script, and that it had been as fully realized as TSOW was. Fingers crossed that Tom magically has a new project to announce on the 14th at the Early Man premiere.
An article exploring why ALL of the Marvel leading players, including Tom, can't open a movie at the box office in their efforts outside of Marvel. And it trashes all of their movies outside of Marvel! The said that not even Hiddleston could save Kong: Skull Island from King Kong tropes, and that although he never delivers an uninteresting performance of on camera, that what Tom is best at is Loki. I disagree. Most of the movies they criticized had terrible scripts! And a couple of the actors like Chris Evans, Evangeline Lilly and, and Chris Pratt are just not verstile actos who are capable of multi-layered performances.
Oh no! 95 year old Stan Lee, former president and CEO of Marvel and co-creator of Iron Man, Spiderman, and X-men, has been accused of groping his nurses, harassing them, and requesting oral sex in the shower. My dear. His pic w Tom is below.
>>485 I think that article is all over the place. For example, it gives some examples of non-MCU movies in which Hemsworth did well, then picks one in which he didn't. Another: their argument barely stands up with, say, Jeremy Renner, who generally has an excellent track record away from Marvel.
>>487 I agree. And, I think that the industry and the public's obsession w franchises doesn't allow audiences to become but so loyal to an actor's career choices. Leo D and Denzel W are the only sure things at the box office. And even Denzel just faltered. Plus movies have become very expensive.
>>488 We'd likely do better in predicting TNM2 by throwing darts randomly at a multi-year calendar!
>>484 Rather than announce a new project I'm afraid he's going to be wearing a sandwich board reading: Will Act for Money.
It may be that these sites that are saying he's working on confirming new projects have some insider info but I doubt it. More likely wishful thinking on their part or a gamble on the obvious answer. I mean at this point he must have something in the works, right?
>>481 Remember how it was just we monsterous toxics who were harping on about Tayto? Everyone else had put it behind them and moved on.
Wasn't he possibly involved in Lockards Silent Night?
>>494 Have I missed something? are there sites out there saying he is working on confirming new projects?!
After the GG no show, I have been wondering what is actually going on with The Drought. There were some there who had not been nominated and were not associated with nominated projects. I find it hard to believe as last year’s winner that he could not score an invite if he wanted one. So what is going on?
Is he maybe involving himself in the rehab of the BFI house since the bid for the new one fell through?
Geez, I just feel bad for the guy.
>>495 I thought Elvie had mentioned these up thread.
The post-Tayto drought is unique. Even his previous drought was because projects fell through, I think (it was before I entered the fandom). Still he was able to secure others. This one seems to stem from a complete lack of non-Marvel projects. I fear that, after several years of being the lead in his recent non-Marvel roles, he may think smaller, ensemble parts are beneath him. (I can't help but wonder if he only took the Early Man role because Redmayne's in it. If ER signed on, then it wasn't beneath TH to do it.) Turning things down is of course his right but it's going to drastically cut down on the roles he'll have on offer.
I know I said the dog wasn't a rent-a-dog for a pup stroll but...reaching for anonsy's discarded tinfoil hat....
Have a good trip.
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Shall we keep an eye on James Franco's career now? He was only accused of being a perv so that's not as bad as dating a girl and being misunderstood in a speech.
There's a photo of him from today with Maisie promoting EM. He's alive and looks good. Don't know how to apply pics to post.
URLfile:///storage/emulated/0/Download/tumblr_p2g98nAj9L1u5j9sco1_540.jpg hope this is it.
>>504>>506 Another pics of TH and MW
Same TH...same shirt...good that some things don't change...uh..literally.
>>502 This is an over-simplification of those two situations that I can't let go without comment, even though you are being sarcastic. If these were accurate summations of Tayto and his GG speech, then our criticism of him wouldn't have been warranted, and we would indeed be the toxics were are often accused of being.
>>504 Not sure of the original source, but the pix are on twitter here: /bestofmaisie/status/951842353995755520
Still bearded, be-curled, and in his blue sweater. I wonder if that sweater is like Linus’s blanket for him.
>>510 Hi..didn't mean to ruffle feathers as my point was that I think it will be interesting to watch how one is treated vs the other with I think Franco's indiscretions and then going to the GG dressed in black to support against harassment is a hypocrisy too. So basically which hypocrisy will be considered/treated the worst. And for me, I wasn't insulted by the speech which I watched months later, I cringed some but saw where he was going with it too. I also tend to lean towards finding something positive in any situation, give the benefit of the doubt. That's just me with anything :) Sorry, don't want to get on anyone's bad side with my opinion :)
Just a p.s. new to the fandom so didn't see things as they happened and even tho I've been reading blogs and threads remembering timelines etc are hard for me so I'm probably going to get things bassackwards. Just trying to contribute.
>>514 Elvie, you haven’t got on anyone’s bad side. We express robust opinions here and we don’t always agree with one another. Also some are less critical of certain behaviour and some are more so. For example I think on the GG speech I was more of the “clunky but well meant” side (hard to remember now). Others were more critical. It’s a broad church. The only things we don’t tolerate are ad hominem attacks and a refusal to accept that others are entitled to a different opinion.
>>513 'Like' being the key word. TH is a very good looking man. But Robert Redford in JJ...it makes you realize the existence of God. So handsome, so rugged...so American!
>>514 You didn't. This is what we do here. Nothing against you personally, just the over-simplification of the reasons for why TH was and is criticised, and may be struggling to find good projects. Please don't be afraid to express an opinion in the future! Somethings we agree on, others, not so much.
Have a good trip.
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>>510 Thank you Anon. for putting it in a really concise way.
While i don't think TS is a victim I feel that the majority of sites tend to vilify her a bit too much compared to TH when it came to HS. TH is just as guilty in lying and being an attention whore as TS, but at least we expect TS to do what she does which is whore out her famous BFs'. While I think TH has always been an attention whore starting from his instant popularity in the first Avengers film, he just didn't have an accomplice who was A-list to show off his smugness and daresay even snobbery. It showed a really ugly side to him which turned a lot of people off fans and non-fans alike.
New pic of Tom and Maisie at the EM promo.
Pix and vid of Tom at the Early Man premiere today on torilla:
The Dragon Book of Verse for which Tom recently recorded is available for purchase (UK only). Two Shakespeare soliloquies (click the blue thumbnail to see the list): https://www.dragonverse.co.uk/product-page/a-selection-from-the-dragon-book-of-verse
He looks good. A little thin? Not too many wide, toothy, laughing smiles in the pics.
Ahaa! I got it! One time he referred to his semi bearded self as looking like a Scottish farmer, so he must be doing a film about a Scottish farmer!?!? ;)
Dear me. The DM has done an article on the EM premiere and Tom, and 3/4 of the article is about the fauxmance w Swift. Since they call her songs catchy, I bet the TS PR team had a had in it. They analyze the Getaway Car song lyric, post the Rhode Island pics, mention the heart vest, it has the LA airport pics of both of them, and the Met dancing pics, etc. Such a bore. Sadly Tom made a terrible choice in co-creating that famewhore summer. TS doesn't have a career w/o referencing fictional drama and petit feuds, since her songs from this album aren't even being streamed on spotify anymore. And no one cares about the last video.
>>526 Or maybe the DM is pissed that Tom didn't talk to the reporters, so they constructed a TS article as a rebuke? Apparently he chatted w the children for a long time though, when Eddie Redmayne and Maisie Williams didn't, for some reason. Tom looks a little fuller in the face, IMO. He was manorexically lean for ISTL. Plus, he likes to keep himself so lean from power running, which can make anyone over thirty look haggard in the face. So I think this is better.
Stop clogging up 4-ch with these dumb threads on a second rate character actor. I get your bored but why not go buy yourself a dildo and fuck yourselves to death with it. If you'e lucky, your cats will eat you so your families won't have to pay to bury you.
>>525 Maybe he's going to become a Scottish farmer, hence the search for a manor house.
>>526 Well 'Actor has long hair and beard' can't fill up an article. As he's got nothing else to offer them except his supposed real estate dealings, they're going to fall back to familiar ground. The DM had a lot of Tayto's 'photo exclusives' including the mum stroll, and the most obvious example of them calling the paps: the paps on the runway and up the motorway. I wonder if whoever wrote this article knows from those exclusives that it was all as phoney as a $3 bill and put the GQ bit in there as a wink and a dig.
>>522 The less than enthusiastic smiles may be due to the fact that his dates (that we know of) were Luke and...drumroll...his mummy. Wonder what she thinks of the state of his follicles!
Is the general fandom still blaming Luke for Tayto and calling for his head?
Have a good trip.
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EM reviews. The movie seems to be getting very good reviews, as a kidde-era Brexit allegory. They say that Tom's french accent is rather broad. But Tom seems to be referencing the comedic 'Allo 'Allo! BBC series set in WWII era northern France, so its meant to be a farce.
The times he’s smiling in these pix are when he’s with the kids, a couple with ER and Masie, and one where Luke is saying something in his ear. So he’s still capable of smiling; he’s just lost that hyper level of glee he used to have.
>>532 No pap stroll with Mama, I see! Back to the previous approach of keeping family out of the limelight. Who could possibly have thought that her starring role in Tayto was was anything but coincidence.....
A kiddo-era Brexit allegory? Jesus wept. Is that the Guardian? Has to be the Guardian. Everything is about Brexit to the Guardian.
>>532 She was. If you search on twitter, one of the most popular tweets is a video of a kid who attended the premiere. He interviews TH at the afterparty and momma is alongside yucking it up. I nearly wet myself as she didn't do her hair for the premiere but did do it for Tayto. Hmmmmm.
PS Good to see ER got time off from his job as a Paddington Bear clothing line model to attend. 'Styled by yours truly, P. Bear.'
>>535 I saw that - I didn’t see him posing with her on the red (green!) carpet for the press though.
Cute video of Tom, as he does vocal exercising/beat boxes with MW for EM Press.
Celebitchy getting in its two cents about Tom’s look for the premiere (half funny, half snarky, but I do like the term “hiatus beard”): http://www.celebitchy.com/562782/tom_hiddleston_his_scruffy_ginger_beard_are_here_to_make_2018_slightly_better/
Smells like ancient dry brittle and unused pussy in here.
Smells like leaking depends to me
>>539 Celebitchy thinks that Tom looks like Maisie and Eddie's father? Ouch! And they were contemporaries at Eton, and Eddie is about to become a father for a second time? Dear me. I'm glad that Tom isn't as vain as some guys in Hollywood, b/c that kind of comment would drive some pretty boys straight to a dermatologist to get some major chemical peeling and laser resurfacing done to the old puss!
>>537 Well some things are sacred. Also she might have refused to be photographed with him until he shaves and gets a haircut.
Here's an ONTD article on the premiere. Following on from the OP's question, it quickly devolved into a summer o' fuckery rehash. Amongst my favs were posts ridiculing the Nashville restaurant photos and one which called Tayto a 'dumpster fire.'
>>542 I think the father remark was as much about their different outfit choices as anything else; compared to his co-stars, he almost looked overdressed. And he’s so much taller than Masie,
>>543 I loved the quote of “This whole debacle is like someone bringing a small flightless bird to a gun fight”!
Also the early comment re: sending every man in the U.K. a tub of moisturizer....
The video of Tom's mom at the EM premiere is below, and mummy Diana appears at minute 3:06. And, Tom's premiere style made the GQ's best dressed list of the week at #7.
Short EM interview w/ Tom: twitter;com/TomTheNextLevel/status/952920765606907909/photo/1
Note the line about “not an exhibition of my work but of theirs.” An example of the new Modest Tom?
Tom's 5 minute video interview for Early Man with Theupcoming. It seems as if he is just as committed to promoting this film in an artiulate way, as he is to his other films. His reluctance to talk to reporters probably stems from the fact tht he doesn't have a new project to announce, and he doesn't want to come off as such a a shamless self-promotionist after the GG speech situation and Tayto. FYI, the James Ivory Richard II project is in pre-production as of August 2017. His recent success as the screenwriter of this year's Call Me By Your Name, should give Ivory some heat to get Richard II made.
>>545 This was my favorite tweet from when KK released the tapes of TS being a lying liar. I missed the early weeks of Tayto because of real life, so Receipt Gate is my Tayto jam. What a surreal night. With everything that had happened, no one thought it would get more ridiculous and then KK made the internet explode!
>>548, >>549 According to the crazy clever one, RII became listed in IMDB Pro as in pre-production as of this past fall. So maybe it's a inching a little closer to being made someday. Which might contribute to Tom's shaggy look - it's easier to have a beard and get rid of it for a role than the other way round. (The fake beards in KSI and HR did not look natural on him.)
A behind-the-scenes EM video showing some voiceover work. Tom's bits start at about 2:12, and include when Nick Park was giving him a massage to get the shaky voice for the bath scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwux8aJ7ck
>>550>>548>>549 My hunch could pay off! James Ivory's Richard II could still come to life! James says that Tom has agreed to play Richard and Damian Lewis will play Bolingbrook, and he's still looking for financing. Yay. The dream has not died! If Call Me By Your Name is Oscar-nominated, and wins a few gongs, this could help turn Ivory into a recent awards contender whose projects are still worthy/marketable to greenlight!
An upload of Tom’s two recordings for The Dragon Book of Verse: https://t.co/rW3hP1cgsY?amp=1
We must be desperate for TH gossip. Gossip cop denied that following the Golden Globe Awards, Chris Hemsworth had set Tom up on a date w Angelina Jolie via a messaging app and texting, and that they have been chatting ever since, and are planning a dinner date in LA, soon! Ha ha! Angie's life is a fascinating and passionate whirlpool, but I think Tom needs his life to remain a sea of calm : )
Eddie Redmayne on this video at 3:52, thinks that Tom should be a wizard in one of the Fantastic Beasts/Harry Potter prequel films! My dream was that Tom and his lovely beard would be cast as young Dumbledore in his dark wizard-catching years! Darn you Jude Law! I'm still hopeful that we'll get Tom with a wand in hand, at some point.
>>556 That, or playing the young Emperor Palatine in a Star Wars prequel!
I wonder why, with all the EM promo, none of it seems to have been with just Eddie and Tom together. (Each of them had sessions with Masie, and there was at least one with all three of them.) Probably just as well because Tom might have regressed a bit from his new adult persona. Tom 1.0 has only peeked out a little from the vids I've seen.
Kinda hard to tell, but from the "Would you rather" with Maisie
He hath trimmed the face beast!
>>558 Maybe! I thought I could still see some face fungus creeping up the cheeks...! He’s very enamoured of the old beard. Strokes it a lot and has referred to it on a couple of occasions.
>>551 This is kinda my point. It’s okay to do an animated feature (even after TPF!) because ER and people like RF have done it. I know he said he loves Aardman but he also said 'I've always wanted to do a movie about a journey to an uncharted island,’ i.e., he’s given to exaggeration.
An article noticing that Tom was absent from the Marvel 10 year anniversary photo, despite portraying one of the most beloved and multidimenional characters! Preach!
The Guardian dragging out the GQ interview again - they’re still on the side of it hurt rather than helped him: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/08/quincy-jones-said-what-star-interviews-that-got-us-all-talking
Tom’s 37th birthday. 🎂
Post from Instagram with a pic I haven’t previously seen from ISTL. He looks pretty committed to smoking that cig, I’d say....https://instagram.com/p/Be-rgZVnoyO/
>>562: But isn't that what all of you have worked so hard for? To see Tom's career in ruins and for him to be the punchline of jokes everywhere? I thought you'd be celebrating. Or is it just too much work for you to go and find someone else to tear down?
Pic of Tom walking puppy, Bobby. The DM rapiers out for Hiddleston and Jude Law. Says they both are dressed as if it is for their midlife crises. Ouch!! Dark.
>>565 Meant to also say, that I understand that some well-off preppy guys like to wear their clothes over and over until they are completely worn out, and I admit that I don't like men who dress like vain peacocking city boys, I don't know what Tom's statement to the public/film industry is. He looks pale and very unkempt in his personal grooming. And when you're not working or scheduled to work as an actor, that's not the best message to project to the world. You just look as if you don't care what people think of you. As an actor, your appearance is your business office, in a way.
>>565 I feel a bit sorry for Jude Law. One may or may not like the coat, but it was intended as a fashion statement, and with the exception of the boots the items are all clean and pressed.
Is that a hole I see in the front of Tom’s jacket? Also, I don’t think we can now dispute that the jacket is just filthy (I recall a debate last year about whether we saw a footprint or a trick of the light). As for the boots, it may have been a lot muddier than expected when he was out walking the dog. The acid test will be whether he bothers to clean them off.
There are more better pics of TH n Bobby on LA S of 65 but for some reason I can't repost from kindle so maybe someone else....he doesn't look as bad as DM has him looking.
Sigh...more better? I's educmucated...it's on LSA autocorrect!
>>568 Many much much better pics of Tom and Bobby on torilla. It looks like the DM falsified the color of Tom's pics to that they could feed their mid-life crisis narrative! The bsterds! Tom's coat is faded, but it's not dirty. And his jeans look pretty crisp, as well. And Bobby has a fashionable new coat : ) I really hope that Tom is growing out his hair for James Ivory's Richard II,and Ivory said 9 hours ago “At the moment I’m very optimistic it will happen.” Yay!Apparently the script is by Argo screenwrtier, Chris Terrio. But CT also wrote the Justice League script. Hmmm...
Torilla has pics as well.
The reappearance of the dog indicates he is his. I had wondered if he belonged to another family member, perhaps, as he had not been seen since the first pics (I think).
>>570 We posted at the same moment!
Have a look at the middle photo in the top line (2/9). Looks like the left sleeve is pretty filthy, though I agree that some of the problem with that coat is that it looks dusty where it has worn shiny where it rubs. Not that that is much better (!!).
>>568 The additional pix are on Torilla: https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/orj360/6e14d388gy1fodzunjga6j20qc13itg9.jpg
(Hope the link works - it’s to the first of the series.)
>>572 I suspect the coat’s condition is a combo of thriftiness, dog walking, and thumbing his nose at the paps. But he’s never been skilled at thinking through the impression he makes.
>>573 I imagine he is aware when he is being papped. The first pics of him carrying the dog were blue steel to the max. He so obviously loves dogs that I am sure he is like this in private: http://www.smallstepsproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Tom-Hiddleston-Joost-Vandebrug-1.jpg
>>575 Sigh. Just looking at that pic and remembering why I ended up in the fandom. Tom with short black hair, a huge smile and - remember those days? - clean, relatively new and flattering clothes that were chosen by him (rather than being bought by Yours Truly at such humongous expense that it’s no wonder he baulks at replacing them).
>>575, >>571 Despite his having said he "doesn't see" the paps, I've come to agree that he must be aware of them. Or at least he always adopts that face when he's out and about as a protective measure. That's a sweet picture of him with the dog; and in all the others I've seen of him with dogs, he's been interacting with them a lot.
>>577 Did she? I didn’t hear about that. She is a real class act if so. Though if he wants to win the propaganda war he will have to dial up the fashone a bit. I am not sure a revenge pap stroll in a coat with holes in it is sending quite the right message!
>>572 Sorry, I meant that the clarity of the image quality of the photos is much much better on torilla,then the images on the DM. Sorry! I should have been much clearer. In the words of former Kodak spokesman Andre Agassi, Image (image clarity) is Everything!
CB doesn't think the photos are too bad. Maybe dlisted will comment later on.
>>578 Allegedly, she did, but I’m basing that on tumblr, not original (re)search :). Funny that tumblr didn’t erupt over that, but did over dog-walking pictures.
>>578: Isn't that what you want? For TS to savage Tom? For his career to end? For him to what? Suicide? Talk about class acts.
I wonder how many of you have trolled other sites to make sure they all engage in intense discussions about Tom's rapid fall to keep the memes going.
And Crazy Days has a Tom blind today too.
What is with the sudden uptight super nannies in this thread all of a sudden? There meltdown is insane.
Apparently Tom was seen, filming something for the BBC, and watching a 3rd year play performance at RADA?!
>>586 Apparently the RADA sighting was true, but not the filming sighting.And the girl just went private on her twitter, so...Oops.
>>585 You lurk at places where Tom's fans are at so why can't we lurk where his enemies scheme and plot?
I hope he doesn't work again if it means it will give some of you the opportunity to drag him some more.
>>589 I wondered about that. I think it might be just the project to get him off the bench. I do wonder if he has been saying no too much (as previously discussed, nobody seems to think he has had no project offers at all). Sure he would accept something from Sir Ken!
As for our tedious little visitor (and yes I do think there is just one of you, as Anonon has previously suspected, due to your strangely repetitive comments): if you don’t like what we do here, then go somewhere else. Or go mad and set up your own thread on 4-ch, maybe. But don’t waste our time with this pious cant about not approving of what we get up to here (since you lurk here and clearly can’t drag yourself away) or the utter bullshit about us wishing him dead. Show me one single post in which anyone has said that.
>>591 Even if he’s not keen on an ensemble role, I’d think KB could help him to see its benefits. If nothing else, it would be a great networking opportunity given the level of the others actors KB is likely to attract to the project.
>>592 This troll has also been on the LSA Tom thread as well accusing members of the same things as well. This person is mentally disturbed.
Why do you think you have the right to have a place where no one will troll you? And LSA? That's literally slumming. They still hold out hope Tom will pull a Prince Harry. I find it funny you think there's just 1 of us who've decided to visit your little psych ward here. Guess its b/c you've been using multiple id's and just think everyone else does too.
>>595 Pic of Tom at the Nuffield Theatre Theatre!
>>597 Happy smile - hanging with his peeps at the theatre. Good to see!
I read recently that Harriet Walter and others “joined” him as a patron of the Nuffield Southampton Theatres (https://www.nstheatres.co.uk/about-us/news/harriet-walter-and-craig-david-announced-as-new-patrons-for-nuffield-southampton-theatres). Since he did that q&a in early 2015 I am not aware he has done any event for NST. He was originally named as an “associate actor”. See http://www.whatsonstage.com/southampton-theatre/news/07-2014/nuffield-southampton-50th-anniversary-season-hiddleston_34939.html.
>>599 From those articles, it looks as patron and assoc. actor are both “ambassador” roles. Probably something he can do as much or as little of as he wants and has time for. So a positive of his current situation is that he seems to have the chance to support organizations he cares about.
Tom looking good here.http://joemonster.org/mg/58675,28
Tom is still in the industry! And I think that he and his PR guy, Luke, have taken a page from the TS playbook by refocusing on charitable donations, and notifying the press about it, just like his peers do. The British actors have joined forces to fight sexual harassment just in time to promote the BAFTA film awards. Tom, Emma Watson, K Knightley, Emma Thompson Gugu M-W, Jodie Whittaker from Return to Cranford, etc. have made donations to a fund for victims of sexual assault, called the UK Justice and Equality Fund. Tom gave £10,000 and Emma W gave £1 million, and he made the contribution by name, on a GoFundMe page. Hmmm...I guess this is Tom's answer to the the Harvey Weinstein fallout, the Time's Up Movement, and acting in a Woody Allen film. Hmm... Processing. Given Tom's last 1.5years in the business, it was probably best for him to stay quiet on the issue, and let his financal contribution speak for itself. I'm a little wary of the Time's Up. The agents are heavily in involved in this. They agencies need good press themselves, b/c they knowingly led actresses to meet with a violent predator, when they many knew about Harvey's crimes.
Tom and Eddie R's Early Man has premiered in the US to roughly 3.2 million dollars so far at the box office so far, over President's Day weekend. I guess EM is family oriented counter programing to Marvel's Black Panther, which has swung quite a large ax this weekend.
Short i’vue with TH in Empire. Current project: improving 5k s time but not with Bobby cos he is too young. https://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/171058629121/zhora-salome-empire-magazine-april-2018-x
Apparently Sir Ken gave Tom a special copy of Hamlet (the one that Derek Jacobi had passed down to him): https://mobile.twitterDOTcom/IamMental_Leaps/status/965709646278295552
Seen at a performance of a play in London - participate in a “University Challenge” skit.
Yay! James Ivory just won the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay for Call Me By Your Name! Richard II funding, here we come!
>>609 Tom wore his Early Man Premiere styling to the BAFTAKids event at Kensington Palace, March 6, 2018. Still bearded, not smiling. Genuinely great to see him. And I'm glad to see that he's comfortable chatting to journalists again : ) Kids are psyched about Avengers: Infinity Wars and Tom has to protect that fan base.
Taylor Swift shows that it is possible to go off the grid with one’s Britishactor boyfriend: http://www.celebitchy.com/569429/grazia_taylor_swift_has_gone_off-grid_in_a_big_way_since_meeting_joe_alwyn/#comment-15867323
To Anon. and others who recommended the John Adams miniseries: I watched it in advance of a vacation in Boston. Loved it (and found it very useful when going round museums to be able to recognise and contextualise Benjamin Franklin etc). Paul Giamatti has cornered the market in grumpy yet principled lawyerly old gits (cf also Billions). Stephen Dillane was unexpectedly foxy as Thomas Jefferson.
>>614 I was joking about the press, b/c a little boy with a microphone interviewed Tom : )
Oh no! New Dailymail click bait article w new pics of Tom walking Bobby, and rehashing the TS fauxmance with rock canoodling and the tank top incident. It's her team's PR for the release of her next music video. He seems to be wearing a new grey scarf, the Hamlet grey suede boots, and black gloves.The article promotes Avengers Infinity Wars, as well.
>>619 I don’t think that is a new scarf - Torrilla’s pics show it has a hole in it!
So Luke wilson is now Tom's publicist? Do tell! You're a fucking idiot.
>>619>>622 I don’t think it is contractual, personally. It just feels to me like DM click bait. She has a single out, so boring everyday pap shots of him have a value for the time being - though surely getting more and more limited as he goes out every day doing the same thing in the same clothes (I am now sure designedly a la Leo di Caprio or whoever it was who always wore the same clothes to reduce the value of the pap shots).
>>623 I don’t really think it could be contractual - just that it would be a funny passive-aggressive way for Tom to fight back if it were!
>>621 Luke Windsor. Silly me! Maybe puppy Bobby is chewing up his clothes? Or maybe it's just Tom bashing the heck out of his clothes, as usual.
There's a shoe print on his coat and his scarf has a hole in it. He knows he's going to be photographed yet he chooses to dress like someone who doesn't wash themselves or there clothes. He has to get his act together, this depress person he's become is getting odd and crazy now. I'm surprised he hasn't snapped at someone.
Those are the clothes he uses daily to walk his dod and play with him in the park. If you ever had a dog, you know that you always come home with dirty clothes.
I'm sure that when he gets home he takes a shower and changes to normal clothes.
I've had a dog before and my clothes were never dirty even if I played with him in the park or yard. That's a bad excuse, especially since he's a celebrity and he knows he's going to be photographed. Image is everything to celebrities. Is he trying to make people feel sorry for him or what with this sad man image he now has.
>>628 If Tom wants to dress comfortably and not bother with personal grooming, and be understated in interviews, maybe he's still trying to prove to the world that he's not a publicity attention whore? And maybe he's also trying to lose some of the interest of his young Teen Beat fan girl base, as he approaches 40? This does seem like quite an over correction, though. I still hope the beard is for Ivory's Richard II.
There is this misconception that Tom's fan base consist of a bunch of teenage girls when in actuality it's more a bunch of twenty somethings and middle age women. It resembles the Twilight fan base. His popularity is teenage-like but the fans are most often adults.
>>630 pop walk shmock walk....who cares!!?? I enjoy current pictures of him. Don't care how he's dressed either. At least he's comfortable. Don't think he's pathetic. I don't wear heels and make up to clean stalls and when I'm out with any of the animals I wear what's used and comfy in case they slime me. I'd still be a big fan if he was gay or got married with kids or came from mars as long as he was happy. His career will be what it will be, there's been a lot of good actors that never made it big and others that did that shouldn't have. Que Sera Sera
>>630 Perception in the GP maninstream news is interesting. After the TS fauxmance split, E! news discussed Tom arriving at LAX from London. And even though Tom was clean shaven, was reasonably well dressed, clean cut, etc. and obviously his PR had called the paps to cover his arrival, E! remarked that no one really seemed to care about him in the tabloids anymore and how calm and relieved Tom seemed just walking around by himself, no assistants or fans in sight, and the hosts concluded that Tom just liked his life to be low key. Not sure Tom can ever prove that he's not a famewhore. But in Tom's head, maybe he thinks that compared to other actors who look 100% styled when they call paps in LA (to the same Au Bon Pain, the Brentwood Farmer's Market, Whole Foods) the identically clad Mountain man puppy pics seem less staged to the casual viewer.
>>632 I guess. But from what I've heard from the GP is that people feel sorry for him and that he might be depressed or something. I don't know if he wants that type of reaction because that just plays into some type of victim complex like you-know-who loves to play.
Also, looking back at TH pics outnabout, the only time I found that he looks grubby is with Bobby. Granted it may always be in the some of the same tried and true clothes and shoes...
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Elizabeth Debicki has confirmed basically nothing about TNM2. I'm glad that TH has a gig, and yet I am no longer interested in Roper and Pine squaring off again. And Pine seemed kind of ambivalent about Jed at the end of the series, unlike at the end of the end. The book has been adapted and it has no sequel. There is no more night to manage. Think like Elsa in Frozen, and Let It Go. Or make Olivia Coleman the lead maybe, and start over...Hmm...Like a LeCarre novel meets Fargo, and Olivia has a hot affair with her sexy ex-lover in the CIA! I've solved it!
>>637 I meant, Pine goes off w Jed in the novel, but I didn't feel like those crazy kids would make it in the movie. Or maybe they just made it look ambivalent in the movie to leave people in suspense.
Interesting little blurb on another site. I have not read TNM but I guess at the end there was something about him having grown a Cornish beard. Hinting at gearing up for TNM 2. Thoughts?
Pics from Dan Cagney on facebook, supposedly of Tom walking with a woman and his puppy, Bobby, in Hampstead Heath Park. The pics are incredibly blury. The poster seems to take post pics with actors a bit, so it could be true.
>>641 And the speculation has started, though very quietly. It feels to me as if, between the dearth of project announcements and the question of Loki’s fate, the fandom is holding its collective breath.
Tom with Bobby annoying an Eve. Standard person - 3rd section of this:
>>643 Lol the article calls him an A-list celeb. Sure, I guess with the upcoming Infinity Wars.
So puppy and a girlfriend now. Add in all the talk about the country house and seems like Tom could be settling down. Then again, his relationships so far have been more flings and non committal stuff that fizzles out after the 3 month infatuation mark ends so let's see where this one falls, serious or another short term girlfriend.
Nice to see you again NewAnon. It’s been a bit quiet round here recently - Sosorry and Heynon have been keeping things going by adding links.
>>642 I don’t feel like the fandom is very excited about this. It looks vaguely like him and there is a dog in the frame, but as NewAnon says the photo was taken from space using a Box Brownie camera so who the hell knows.
>>645 There's almost been more discussion of dogs in coffee shops than there's been of a potential gf. Of course, the dog was described in detail and the woman is a collection of out-of-focus pixels. And as someone pointed out on tumblr, would he really be letting his grooming go to hell if he were seeing someone?
Maybe the woman is JA. He was spotted with her in a cafe before the infamous Met Gala where he met TS.
Whomever it is Tom is at a better time at his life, and considering his age, to settle down since it seems he's not traveling for work nowadays.
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>>649 It is slightly hard to tell, but is this person saying she scared him by running after him?! Because she thought it would be her only chance.....Reminds me of the fan who got into the same Tube carriage and chatted away with him till he got off. No filter. As ever he is unfailingly polite, but god.
>>650 It is pretty scary come to think of it. A stranger just running up to you and asking questions and even telling you there life story, i get images of his fans saying "He's perfect" and that he "saved their life" shivers
>>645 Thank you, Anon! Life has been a bit crazy since the new year and deprived of my celeb gossip fun :( When google alerts popped up that Evening Standard article calling him an "A-list celeb" and bitching about the pup for no reason, I couldn't resist anymore.
>>652 I think he strings JA along. When he said to a reporter "she's nothing worth talking about" after she said to that other reporter that she was his girlfriend that must've been embarrassing. FWBs don't proclaim you as their boyfriend, she obviously was duped by him.
Apparently TH went to another play and it was mentioned on twitter. This was by an all-female theatre company. Glad to know that he's still passionate about the arts, and that he's enjoying himself in his time off. Yes, Tom had to step back from the GP. But he needs a new publicist ASAP, and a new branding strategy going forwards. Unless Tom is comfortable doing theatre and scooping up supporting roles in films, from now on. Fingers crossed that James Ivory secures funding for the Richard II film.
Why the obsession with Tom Hiddleston? He's all but retired now. His career is dead and even if he wasn't, he's gay, gay, gay.
Tom will be at a Comic Con (not San Diego) in June. Poster shows him clean shaven (!!)
>>657 Huh. Interesting. Last of his Marvel obligations? Or could this mean he'll be in A4 after all? Wonder if the panel, with Chris H and Chris E, will be on "Life After the MCU." Still, it will be a sighting of Hermit Tom.
The DM chose Tom as the best style icon for men who are in their thirties to emulate! Yay!
He's still gay. He's always been and will always be gay. Fawn all over him if you like but you are wasting your time. You're pathetic, wise than actually. No one will hire him bc he's such a hypocrite. No studio wants to hire someone and be embarrassed by it later the way they were with Spacey. His career is o-vah.
Gay is safe for them. Probably never seen a real dick in their lives, and never will.
Tom has seen plenty of dicks-either in his bubble butt ass or his mouth.
Explore Twitter a little more closely and you'll find out that Tom was having Easter lunch with his boyfriend.
Tom will be doing IW PR in Korea w/ some of the other supporting cast: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2018/04/02/0200000000AEN20180402007000315.html
>>668 so he'll be there with the rest of the has-beens then?
Even if Tom came out at this point, he still could not get cast in anything because he's PR and box office poison.
James Ivory keeps alluding to Richard II, and claims that the investors are looking at the project with, "renewed interest." Is this the truth or Ivory's wishing, hoping, and dreaming?! Fingers and toes crossed. There is also a video of Ivory talking about Richard II on the page below, in Toronto, and people woop woop a bit when Hiddleston is mentioned.
Also, Ken Branagh has just announced a brand new tv project for a novel called A Gentleman in Moscow, by Amor Towles. Maybe there is a part for Tom?
It'll be interesting to see if James Ivory gets financing since Shakespeare films don't do well in today's market. Maybe Shakespeare inspired but actual Shakespeare is a tough sell. He could always go to Netflix or Amazon. Netflix is already doing David Michod's The King with Plan B and Timothee Chalamet playing Henry V.
>>674 I wish Luke Windsor no ill will. But fingers crossed that his comapany is merging with some other PR company where Tom can get some crisis PR management. ASAP.
>>675 Well, I think he's terrible at actual PR. He can do the basic stuff, that most PR interns are capable of, but when it comes to the hard stuff, Luke is not good at all. Tom's bad PR in 2016 could have been fixed very easily since Taylor had been unmasked at that point. A good PR agent worth his salt could have easily steered away from it all by focusing the attention on Tom's charity, his likeable personality, his TNM success. There was a lot to work with.
<<674 fuck off. He's not "fame hungry" anymore than any other actor.
Now TNM costars Hugh Laurie and Alistair Petrie want to help write the script for TNM2?! WTF? Petrie says that Le Carre has to sign off on any script for the BBC to continue it. What is happening to the script that the BBC hired a writer to craft? Or do Hugh and Alistair just want attention in order to give the series a PR boost in the papers? Hmmm...
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Lots of pictures on torrilla of TH at the London event for IW today.
The beard was trimmed, and maybe also the hair: http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4226724960678990
>>681 I was just about to post but you beat me to it. New clothes! And importantly, new boots which look more durable than the suede ones. I thought he had trimmed the beard. He looks nice.
Just been looking at the Torrilla pics in more detail and I have the following additional thoughts:
1) EO’s leather dress is excellent.
>>683 Agree about the side beard, but I was so pleased that he trimmed most of it and the hair that I let that slide!
I don't generally like brown footwear with blue suits, but those are nice boots.
Tom looked good. His personality was off. He seems to be going for the aloof demeanor now. Lol he's always one extreme or the other, dancing bear or angry stoic. Though he had a good medium at the Early Man premiere.
Olsen's dress made me cringe. Just the shoulders part though. But her makeup and hair looks great. She definitely takes good care of her skin. Is it just me or did it seem like Elizabeth was acting more like how Tom used to at premieres? Her overall behavior was very early Marvel Tom.
>>685 From skimming Tumblr, it seems that he showed up very late, did maybe a couple of quick interviews on the press line, did nothing with fans, and blew off the rest of the press line like this: https://twitterDOTcom/SteveHargrave/status/983054895984070657one
>>686 Tumblr and I seem to have been wrong - he seems to have been at some StarlightUK event for sick kids - see the reply to this tweet — https://mobile.twitterDOTcom/EntNewsShowbiz/status/983059378021588993
>>686 And here’s a link to some of the smiling pics: https://mobile.twitterDOTcom/amestris_star/status/983085309058539521
There's a video of Tom's speech onstage at the IW viewing event. So Tom has moved from wearing free brown leather Ariat cowboy boots post Thor 1, to free grey suede Aquatalia boots, then to wearing free grey suede Kurt Geiger boots post Hamlet @ RADA, and now to wearing brown leather Alexander Mcqueen boots post IW?! Lucky guy!
Apparently, Tom met with children before the IW event, the same as he did immediately before the Thor 3 premiere, where he also skipped over the red carpet journalists and he was late to that event, as well. This scheduling and his muted personality seems to be his new strategy for avoiding negative press. Hmm...methinks we need new projects, not avoidance.
Him blowing off the press line is very funny. Aloof with the press but laughing with other actors/fans.
I forgive the EO shoulders because the high crossover and her legs look great. Good shoes too.
Tom has a brand new navy polo coat. It has a cool collar. He's seen here on twitter, posing with a fan.
Via Twitter @Mister_Floow
>>693 He looked good and pretty cheerful, considering he was just off a long flight. And with arms that long, who needs selfie sticks!
Torilla pics of Tom smiling onstage at the South Korea fan event, wearing a tight light grey suit! He looks happy. Has Tom bulked up at the gym, or is he going for that offbeat 1960s Beatles' style of wearing a suit in an incredibly fitted way? Confused. A man has to be quite petite to pull that look off.
>>695 The fit is off - more than usual for a slim cut suit I feel. No word from yours Truly on her Instagram, so maybe it fits less well because she hasn’t had them tailor it. The look is not miles away from his pre CP Comic Con look - the grey jeans and grey jacket. Maybe he picked it himself!
>>695, >>696 The jacket of that grey suit almost looks a size too small for him - it buttons way above the waistband. And the pants just didn't sit right; in some pix it looks as though the fabric was stiff. Now,the bright navy suit with waistcoat he had in later pictures worked very well, I thought.
Also, finally letting a stylist at his hair and beard has improved his appearance greatly!
Of course celebitchy had to like the Taffy GQ article. At least they think he looks handsome, and they're incredibly happy to seem him up front and visible on this tour, unlike the Thor 3 promotion.
The DM complimenting the four who’re in Korea but taking a swipe at Tom’s beard anyway: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5607961/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Tom-Hiddleston-look-dapper-join-Pom-Klementieff-Avengers.html
Wanna see how long it takes.
Link to all the videos and interviews from Korea - https://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/172991140301/all-interviews-videos-with-tomhiddleston-during
Torilla pics of Hiddleston strolling among his fans in Shanghai, promoting IW. Luke is there, too. He's wearing the uniform w the Hamlet boot and his torn Nike run cap. I guess their plan is to show how popular Tom is with his fan base and avoid all spontaneous press interviews. TS is releasing the Getaway Car song about the fauxmance to coordinate w the release of IW.
>>706 That running cap isn't just torn - the brim looks chewed! Maybe the plan is to keep the focus on what he's wearing so people discuss that rather than anything else? (He wore that misfire of the ill-fitting greige suit again in Shanghai. Oy.)
Tom talks about Shakespeare for quite a while during an interview for IW in China, starting at minute 6:22. Tom says that he has no plans to go back soon, btw.
>>708 Tom has no plans to go back to the theatre, at this time.
Article in which Benedict Cumberbatch calls Tom, Hiddlebum, and he talks about visiting Tom's house recently and seeing a Loki lunchbox in his kitchen.
>>710 Quite a fun interview - I liked the shade he cast at the ghastly Martin Freeman, who is a right miseryguts and moaned.
Oh dear. Apparently, none of the IW cast members was such an SOB to an interviewer this weekend at the Marvel press junket, that the studio officially apologized and pulled the "the cards" (the tapes)of the interview, to endure that there wouldn't be a record. B/c Tom is one of the more well known faces in Avengers, celebitchy used his face in the header to the article, although they say in the article that it could not have been Tom, since he is so unfailingly polite to journalists as a matter of practice. The guessing game to name the rude Avenger, is on!
>>713 It's Anthony Mackie. Tom is too much of a suck up, he wants everyone to love him.
At around 2:25 in this vid, the interviewer asks Tom if he can do an impression of one of his cast-mates. Tom demurs, saying "That's all in the rear-view mirror; I'm not allowed to do that anymore." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2i_SLAQPpU
Article about TH and Loki - warning of major spoilers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/love-loki-tom-hiddleston-saved-marvel-dull-predictable-villains/
Also a link to a podcast with Variety. I haven’t listened yet but apparently there is a lot about Hamlet in there. http://variety.com/2018/film/features/tom-hiddleston-avengers-infinity-war-loki-hamlet-1202783878/
>>717 I haven’t listened yet either, but there’s a photo from it of him reading from the dictionary (to test the effect of his voice). She evidently didn’t ask about future projects, though.
>>716 Very good article - but warning that the IW spoilers start early in it. To see it ff one doesn't want to mess with the Telegraph's paywall, it's posted here: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/173361835033/for-the-love-of-loki-how-tom-hiddleston-saved
Apparently, Maninhat productions is going to film James Ivory's Richard II w Tom, in 3D? Shakespeare meets Avatar? WTF?!
Is this new? Maninhat had this on its website as “news” in 2012(!) and also, see this: http://www.4ye.co.uk/2018/04/will-james-ivorys-3d-richard-ii-finally-take-off/
>>720 My antivirus antimalware filter blocked that site. hum...
>>720 I have to agree with Anon and the article in >>721 - it doesn't really sound any closer to being made than it has for years. And Ivory's new desire for 3D probably isn't helping. That would make the production much more expensive, would require movie chains to give up 3D showings of more profitable movies, and might even keep it out of the art houses. I doubt it could bring in enough non-Shakespeare/Hiddelston fans to compensate. He should consider staging it for NTL broadcast instead.
No spoilers; this article includes another “what will happen to his career besides Loki?” section: http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/before-and-after-marvel-how-has-being-in-the-mcu-affected-the-careers-of-its-actors.php
Does anyone know if there any chance that the WWII serial killer thriller film, "Silent Night" is still a possibility?
>>726 My apologies for the late response (darn life getting in the way). Searches just now only brought up the articles about it from 2016, and the script seems to have been around since 2009 at least. But one of the cos. involved still has it listed on their website as in development: http://whitehorsepics.com/films-in-development/
Tom spotted on Twitter, walking in the park w his puppy, Bobby, while wearing shorts and mismatched socks for some reason. He heard some fans talking about IW and just jumped into their conversation.
That S. Sudan documentary may finally be released this fall: https://www.thetalentmanager.co.uk/talent/61843/sanne-van-den-bergh
Though there's no date on the production co's site: http://www.appealfilms.com/productions.html
>>728 Hi all! Sorry I haven’t been around - pleasures of work.
Mismatched socks photos now on Torrilla! Bobby looks very glossy and well. If these were indeed taken last Saturday, it was a very warm day in London (Royal wedding day!!) and I am mystified why Tom would go out with a puffa jacket. He must really feel the cold!
Tortilla pics. Is Tom wearing new black Nike sneakers finally? How did he, as a serious distance runner, wear older sneakers for so long? Not great for ankle support. Are those new shades? Tom seems to wear his dress socks or whatever long socks he finds in his collection instead to run, instead of athletic socks. I don't quite get this...Are those new shades? Bobby is so big! Good to see him out, though!
>>731, >>732 We’re back - hooray! Supposedly the mismatched socks are an Eton thing: http://youareadistraction.tumblr.com/post/174191958902. Wonder if Tom thought to wear them after that book was published last month?
Apparently Tom visited a children's hospital in London. What a worthwhile way to spend time, and it's wise of him not to build the visit into a big self-focused PR push for himself, with pics.
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Apparently Charles Cumming, spy fiction author, has been hired to help screenwriter Matthew Orton write TNM 2 teleplay. Not a fan of sequels, generally. I guess the BBC really wants this to happen.
>>744 If this is the next project for TH they better get writing!
On a sort of related note, I saw that Nina Gold, about whom Heynon posted that long read article, was the casting director for Patrick Melrose, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. Since he and TH are friends, I really did start to wonder if Heynon was right when she joked that “why is it never me?” anecdote being him!! I could just see them sitting down to dinner chez Cumby in Tufnell Park and him buttonholing her.....
Tom was seen walking his puppy, Bobby! The poster casually burned TS in her tweet.
>>748 And she burned Tayto, too (about the lack of smiles - from a man known for his ear-to-ear grins).
A compilation of Tom pictures from a BAFTA event today: at hiddlesfashion on b l o g s p o t /2018/06/bafta-summer-party-2018.html. Apparently he's now an ambassador for a new initiative for them; another good step in rebuilding his cred.
>>749 Pics of the BAFTA event up on torilla also.
Reminds me how passionately I dislike the beard. I feel it somehow makes him look scruffy even when wearing a suit. Also his hair has now achieved Beaker-like proportions.
>>750 "Beaker-like proportions" - bwahahahaha! That's perfect!
The beard has grown on me, but it's so much better when he's let a stylist trim it. No stylist was involved with BAFTA - one of today's pictures was shot from behind, and his suit jacket is creased and even crumpled at the bottom.
Tom looks great. He has a beaming smile while shaking hands w his fellow Eton alum, Prince William. I feel as if Tom has channeled his War Horse-era look. Glad to see Tom getting his groove back. If Stella could do it, so can he.
MSN UK posted a recap video of Tom's career for no apparent reason: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/other/in-depth-tom-hiddleston/vi-AAyNlw7
The crazy clever one thinks this may be a soft reboot, and for once, I'm inclined to agree. Especially as it closely follows the 2-year anniversary of Snogging on the Rocks, which passed without any fanfare as far as I saw.
I think there is a real possibility it is exactly that, especially combined with the appearances of the last month or so - hospital visit in the UK, BAFTA for kids etc. I am not saying he was a bad or thoughtless guy, but he never did that kind of thing much in recent years, partly I am sure through lack of time. I am slightly setting aside the hospital visit while filming Ragnarok - first, everyone does that visit on the Gold Coast apparently, second TS did it so he kind of had to, and third, the PR nightmare that was Tayto was developing by then.
“I said that the Brazilian fans love him and wish someday he will go to the Brazilian Con. And then I asked what they wanted me to ask: “They wish you could come back to social media. Maybe post pictures of your dog…” And he said, looking into my eyes, “You see my dog is part of my personal life and I don’t post personal stuff anymore. Because social media has this thing where you say something and people twist.”
>755 He has learned. This also might explained why (according to tumbler) about 600 tweets recently were deleted from his account.
Tom was seen relaxinat an oyster bar in Seattle, after posing w fans at Ace Comic Con.
Tom was spotted awarding the Lifetime Achievement Arts Award at the South Bank Sky Awards to B Cumberbatch. There is a pic.
>>758 Another picture and slightly longer quote on Twitter at /SkyArts/status/1013465410153435136
While it’s always nice to see him, I hope he’ll have more on his plate soon than handing out awards to other industry members.
New Dailymail article from one of the four TNM 2 writers, British spy author, Charles Cumming. It's happening. Not sure how I feel about this. Link below.
"Le Carré didn’t write a sequel to The Night Manager which, in the past, would have been a problem. ‘Le Carré has never allowed one of his stories to have a [film or TV] sequel that is not based on a novel,’ says Cumming. ‘So our job is to write a season that’s going to be even better than the first one, but also stay faithful to the tone of the world that was created by le Carré and to the characters.’We know Tom Hollander’s Corky, killed by Jonathan Pine (Tom Hiddleston), won’t be coming back. Hugh Laurie’s Roper was last seen in the company of some very disappointed arms buyers, but you’d have backed him to talk his way out of it. Olivia Coleman’s Angela Burr will have finished breast-feeding by now, and Pine and Elizabeth Debicki’s Jed have a romance to finish.‘All I am permitted to say is that le Carré has given his blessing to the project,’ Cumming says. ‘The four of us in the writers’ room are sworn to silence. Some characters that the audience know and love will be returning, other will not. The locations will be sumptuous, the plot as thrilling and as thematically complex as a le Carré story should be. We are all aware that the bar has been set very high in terms of audience expectations. The challenge facing us is to meet those expectations, hopefully even to surpass them.’
>>759 yes indeedy. Awful Cumberbatch hat BTW. He's indoors for god's sake.
>>760 I share your doubts. "The locations will be sumptuous"...which kind of concerns me. Having watched TNM for a second time I thought it was a triumph of style over substance - loads of money spent on it but with some really duff plotting and dialogue in places (not throughout). I am assuming that TH will be one of the loved characters that does come back. I can't imagine they'd proceed without him as in fairness he was one of the main reasons the series was a success.
>>761 I mentally referred to all the scenes in Roper's compound on Majorca as "Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous!" For the next go round, it would make no sense to do TNM2 without the Night Manager himself.
Personally, if this ever happens, I rather hope they do without the Hiddlesbum. Although he talks good game about only getting naked when it serves The Work, it seemed gratuitous to me in TNM. Were Pine's shirt and jacket so short that they wouldn't cover his backside in real life?
>>762 That is a really interesting article.
When TNM first came out I recall us discussing how uncomfortable the sex scene looked, and Anon. (where did she go? We miss her!) saying that he looked unsure about where he was “allowed” to put his hands. On the bare boobie, or not?
So Tom was seen yesterday in London, marching in a certain parade there. With his boyfriend in tow. He's sticking that big foot of his in the closet door and stepping O-U-T!
Of mild interest:
“@twhiddleston just told us at work that football is coming home. Loki has spoken. #ItsComingHome“
Readying himself for a football BBQ: https://hygge-in-fall.tumblr.com/post/175789413776/close-enounters-of-the-celebrity-kind
>>766 So the vacuum purchase is to clean up the mess afterwards? (Condolences for England’s loss, BTW....)
>>767 Some Henry vacuum cleaners can be used to vac up water, so I guess useful for drying tears! I am not a footy fan....!
Tom is at Wimbledon for the Men's Final today! Tom still has the beard and glasses. His suit pants look a little short, and he looks a bit crumpled from the car ride, but I'm so happy to see him out enjoying his favorite hobbies. Tom, Eddie Redmayne, and his wife Hannah are all sitting in the royal box, it seems. The first link is of Tom in a close-up pic in the box. Yay!
An Nytimes article that details the etiquette/procedures and privileges associated with the Royal Box at Wimbledon.
>>772 interesting article - I didn’t know any of this. Lucky Tom.
Pictures of Tom in London, taken earlier today. He was spotted crossing a bridge after leaving The National Theatre. He's holding a black binder. I hope that it contains a new play that he's considering!
Another sighting of Tom in London. A woman says that Tom chatted with her girlfriend for 10 minutes, at work.
I>>774 Apparently the BFI, and also maybe the Old Vic, are in that direction too, so there are several possibilities. The binder is a good sign!
Well, the Seattle con couldn’t have been too rough on Tom, because he’s doing another one for Ace. Mid-October in Chicago: http://www.aceuniverse.com/
>>776 Yes they are! So is an IMAX cinema so Tom could just have been out to watch a film - though as you say the papers are a good sign....
>>777 I read that the going rate is £500k for one of these cons (!!!!). If you aren’t otherwise earning that is amazingly good money, which must be attractive. For 3 days’ work I would put up with it, even with the proximity to the crazies.
However this is a supporting role (it’s all about women’s voices) so it is unclear how much screen time he will get.
So apparently Celebitchy is claiming that the problematic Johnny Depp, alleged abuser of his ex-wife model/actress Amanda Heard, "pulled a Hiddleston" by dressing up in character for Comic Con-Con, by appearing as Grindelwald for the Harry Potter Wizarding World franchise. And they're review of the Depp attempt is "Blah, nope." Depp pulled a Hiddleston: he showed up to Comic Con as Grindelwald, and spoke to the audience in character:
>>779>>780 Apparently the director/writer of "Leading Lady Parts" is playwright Jessica Swale. Her most plummy leading roles are written for women, and I thought that her last play "Nell Gwynn" was only okay, but this is a great networking opportunity for Tom, that is for a great cause. Jessica's Twitter comment and the funny Teaser youtube trailer are linked below:]
Godzilla: King of the Monsters is bringing back a character from Kong: Skull Island. Is it Tom Hiddleston's James Conrad, now played by Charles Dance?
>>784 That is a terrifying thought, especially after the Beard of Doom in the reshot bar scene....!
Apparently, TNM 2 has yet to be officially recommissioned?! Are the writers just brain storming for a paycheck at this point? Wow. I thought that Tom was depending on this gig to begin the next chapter of his career. Still not a sequel fan. Very wary.
Tom just performed Move It on Over w Rodney Crowell in London at Nell's Jazz and Blues Club on Thursday. Bless his heart! He looks and sounds a little rusty and nervous. Glad that he's still keeping up his friendships. Gosh, I wish that ISTL had had a different script and director.
>>786 Let's hope he's not depending on this to happen any time soon. At this rate, it will be "The Night Manager - 10 Years After."
>>787 They should have given him some spoons to play, or something to do with his hands; he's not used to singing without a guitar. But once he was a few verses in and his voice had warmed up, he relaxed. Wish the video quality were better so we could see his expressions. Agree about ISTL!
>>787 How ironic that his greatest acting role is trapped in a film that I cringed over.
Rehash article in a humanitarian mag about Tom’s UNICEF work. Soft launch for the rumored release of his doc this fall? http://www.borgenmagazine.com/hiddlestons-unicef-humanitarian-work/
Tom's scene in the short film, Lady Parts, is posted here on twitter. The film posters of Tom behind Gemma Chan's head, as she is chatting on her mobile, are soo funny!
>>791 Apologies for the source, but I found this very funny: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/176630838753/gemma-artertons-times-up-inspired-short-leading
Remember the famous “Tom auditions for Thor (the part)” story? He claimed to have gained something ridiculous like ten pounds of muscle in 6 weeks and then wore a blonde wig to audition for the part - and was shirtless. As we recall, he desperately wanted that part and had been lobbying KB for it (running into his dressing room wielding a water cooler bottle as a hammer). It was always previously told by him as an anecdote about his determination/amazingly improved physique (I recounted a secondhand story about him attending a BBQ and showing everyone his (not substantially increased) muscles).
>>792 That was an odd moment in that story, wasn't it? Who knows why Tom felt the need to tell that to his castmates, or why one of them felt the need to repeat it (and add "And it’s not just women, by the way. Men get it worse to some extent.").
>>794 IIRC he got nekked in CP for teh wimminz, to make female nudity better/more acceptable by evening up the numbers - or something. There has never been any real understanding that garatuitous nudity is demeaning for either sex. Is this his epiphany?!
>>795 Nudity in American films is only questionable for me when the writing isn't brilliant, the sex scenes and the nudity in general aren't both propelled by character development in a realistic way and not solely b/c of director's personal fantasies or by the male fanboys' personal fantasies just to sell tickets, when the actors are not treated w respect/courtesy and are not well prepared w intimacy training before for they arrive onset to film the scenes in question, and when the actors are pressured/coerced beyond the bounds of what they've contractually committed to. America either needs to be like Sweden, where male and female actors seem to be filmed nude all the time equally and audiences of all ages are not ethically judgemental about or shocked by any nudity, or we need to go back to a time like the 1940s when the actors kept their clothes on but sparred w witty dialogue.
Pointless Bustle article about private Tom as become, and sicusses his love life: the real and fictitious including those falsely created by Hollywood gossip mags but clearly nurtured by his publicists; and of course his PR fake relationships.)
Sorry my keyboard messed up the link!
>>797 Someone at Bustle was really short of copy today...!
While we’ve been snoozing (cmon, Tom!), Tumblr shut down some blogs for posting copyrighted photos. So the crazy clever one is now at https://insanityclause.tumblr.com/ .
>>800 I was just going to post about this but you beat me to it. Seems like it is one particular red carpet photographer who has finally got sick of his stuff being thrown into the copyright soup that is tumblr.
I had also been meaning to post that the crazy clever one has been finding/being sent a lot of sighting of our hero down in Hampshire, in various spots - Winchester, near Portsmouth and the like. Holiday home or visiting a new special seekrit friend?!
>>802 I have a vague recollection that that sighting was London. I recall wondering if he had had a vacuum cleaner that broke or if it was a first purchase (!). You are right though - I think he was also seen in a DIY place down in Hampshire.
Oh good grief - Tom was just a clue on Jeopardy: “He won [a Golden Globe] for The Night Manager, but a Norse trickster god may have messed with his speech.”
Alive!! Seen at a q&a for a special showing of Unrelated. Torrilla has video - Joanna Hogg asked people not to film it but predictably someone did anyway.
In other news, the insanely clever one has posted a few sighting from Twitter of TH with a woman (unclear whether always the same one). Latest today. Do we await another fandom meltdown?
>>805 And lots of nice still pictures from the Q&A too. His body language is interesting - much less manspreading than in the past.
Reaction to the latest sighting-within-20-feet-of-a-female seems rather subdued.
>>806 Torrilla has some better quality pics and I have to say, he looks great. Beard trimmed, hair not too full of product and swept back, and there’s quite a gun show going on inside that dark blue jumper, which is both clean and devoid of holes. Looks like he has been using his time off to lift weights! He reminds me a bit of Ken Branagh at the time he made Frankenstein.
>>807 >>805 Apparently the director, Joanna Hogg stated that she and Tom had lunch together directly before the Q&A. Someone suggested that Tom could have been catching up w another friend from the Unrelated cast last week, when he was seen eating pasta w someone at an Italian restaurant and he was wearing bashed up clothes. I don't think anyone has the energy to over-analyze sightings w/o pictures in random parts of London, b/c he could be hanging out w anyone under the sun.
>>807 He does look great, doesn't he? (Even if the hairline has moved a little farther back, who cares when he's got that mane going! And he has that developed-upper-torso/thin-waist that he had during the KSI promo that I think suits him well.)
He attended the GQ Man of the Year awards this evening. Pics on Torrilla as usual - nice velvet dinner jacket though I do think on this occasion the hair looked more scruffy for some reason! I don’t think it goes so well with evening wear. Not sure if he won anything.
>>810 I haven't watched the awards videos yet, but it looked as though he may have presented, at least. His hair looked as if he's back to using way too much product. Plus the lighting and camera angles at these kinds of events are much less flattering in general than more controlled setting like the panel at the ACE con.
>>810 >>811 I'm still trying to figure out Tom. When Tom first was on these red carpets he was so natural at presenting a warm and enthusiastic and grateful countenance. He was always leaning into the camera, physically owning the space, and there was light and engagement in his eyes. After The Night Manager success, at the country music awards and the GG awards Tom even swaggered quite a bit. Was TH always faking his confidence and was he also faking his desire to work a room? Did Tom never actually enjoy film promotion and its intense levels of attention? Is he still wounded from the summer of evil? Now, Tom is kind of just the human equivalent of a blinking yellow light. He's just so guarded. I'm curious to see how this career reset evolves. Tortilla pics and dailmail article about the GQ Man of the Year Awards.
Yeah, I saw after I posted that he presented. That made me think it definitely is a rehab exercise. Ok, he has attended before and maybe won (?) but that was a long time ago. Ok, he and JG were both in TR - but in pop culture terms that was also a long time ago. Is he the most obvious person to present to JG? They aren’t best mates. I thought when I saw him attend that maybe Cumberbatch was going to get an award.
>>812, >>813 In the past, Tom might have been faking his confidence some times - for example, assuming he was telling the truth about being nervous when accepting his GG, he didn't look nervous. But I think a lot of his enthusiasm, etc., was real - as Anon mentioned, think of the vids where Luke almost has to drag him to the next red carpet stop!
>>814 I saw a short video on Torrilla and the baying from fans/autograph hunters was unreal. I don't blame him for not liking that but he used to deal with the same thing much better - there have always been professionals on the rope line.
Tom is participating in some capacity in a literary debate early next month: https://www.intelligencesquared.com/events/dickens-vs-tolstoy-simon-schama-john-mullan/
>>816 I think these debates have readings - I am assuming he is doing one or more!
>>816>>817 Tom continues to leave the Summer of Terror Teenie boppers behind by reciting the work of classic authors. Love it. Can Tom please call whomever helped Colin Farrell rehab his career, b/c Colin is in the new Oscar-contending Steve Mcqueen movie w Elizabeth Debicki and Viola Davis, and Colin Is allowed to smile when he talks to the press. Colin must know the secret!
Tom is currently attending NYFW, he's wearing a Ralph Lauren Tux, and he is standing near Kanye West. Okay...what will they talk about?
>>819 Aaaaaaaand he’s right back into the celebrity life. Guess he could always fall back on his spokesmodel career!
Tom is in the latter part of this video. Oprah is making a toast at the high table w Ralph Lauren, Anna Wintour, and Hillary Clinton. And Tom is on his mobile : )
>>821 He usually has such lovely manners, but he's addicted to his phone!
More pix from the Ralph Lauren event:
>>823 the comments on the CB article are interesting. Some nice ones about how after metoo being ambitious and a bit needy are not perhaps the worst sins.
I also thought it was perceptive to observe that he looks like a wet weekend on the RC( though obviously enjoying the event once inside) in part because the reboot is focussed on him not appearing to be thirsty. I had assumed it was primarily because he now loathes the paps as a result of Tayto.
>>824 The tone of the CB comments was quite different, wasn't it?
I think his if-I-were-any-moe-subdued-I'd-be-dead look on the GQ RC could have been for both reasons, really. He unclenched a little for some of the RL pix, possibly because it was in the US, possibly because the focus was more on the clothes than on him - here are a couple of the ones I mentioned in >>823:
>>825 Torrilla posted some pics of TH when he was publicising ISTL in Toronto - the relative minimalness of the unclenching at the RL event is noticeable when you look at his happy little face in those pics. Also I think wearing clothes he picked himself. Happy days before Yours Truly and TS got hold of him.
>>826 That's exactly what happened. I don't doubt this was planned way before the Met Gala. What his delusional fans seem to not realize is that he's super ambitious and will do anything to get to the upper echelon of Hollywood. He always says what everyone wants to hear and that's constant flattery and charm. He's very shrewd.
>>828 God I have done that so many times! Very annoying. There is a way to get back to your text but I can’t remember which it is - I think when it says wrong captcha you have to press the back button in your browser. But I always forget which it is and do something which loses the lot...
Or you could highlight and copy the message before you click on the reply button.
>>827 I concur. The actors we respect the most, regardless of their era in the industry, we know very little about: Montgomery Clift, Brando; DeNiro; Mark Rylance; Ralph Fiennes; Daniel Day-Lewis; Oscar Isaacs...Tom needs to recognize that. Brand new pics of Tom back in London on the Underground. And he was spotted by a fan at Pret a Manger. Also, a video clip of his paparazzi posing pal Lizzie Olsen, in which she praises his ediquette in remembering the names of and in writing thank you notes to the entire cast and crew of ISTL. I think Tom is quite kind, but also so image conscientious.
Who is Phil Wang and why does he hate Tom? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=254&v=TvcOva3m8PI
>>832 Phil Wang is a comedian and he's in a comedy show. I don't think he hates Tom he's just saying that for the show.
>>831 Interesting point. All of those you listed, though, had the advantage of establishing their careers before the internet, with the new expectation of being able to know anything about anyone almost instantly. Oscar Isaacs - I guess I haven't watched enough movies in the past few years, but I had to look up what he's done, and I have seen him in at least one film. Therefore, I think that to some extent, Tom has to be conscious of his image so as not to be lost in the crowd of all the millenial actors. (And think of how much information and entertainment we're now bombarded with - it can take being a bit "noisy" to stand out.) So that makes it even more unfortunate that he damaged his image.
Working my way backwards, to see if I can reconstruct some of my pre-captcha thoughts from the other night.
The main reasons I don’t think that the SoS was planned too far in advance:
>>836 The PR thirsty Team Swift started following Tom way back in 2014, b/c they're always desperate to portray her as a sexual being. This is partly why her PR relationships are so utterly unbelievable. She's not a Rihanna or an Angelina Jolie, or a Scarlett Johansson-type (and who is, by the way?) She is just a stiff model wannabe who knows how to awkwardly attempt to hold hands w a man while mimicking his style of fashion, and looking down at the ground demurely. And then her fans, others suburban girls, live through the fantasies that her PR team create in the tabloids, which is why they are so protective of the fictional narratives. Anyway, they followed Tom after relationship expert and future Real Housewives of New Jersey star Siggy Flicker was asked to analyze a potential relationship between them for an US magazine Valentine's Day article. And Tom didn't follow back till right before he presented at the CMA Awards in 2016.
Career news! Tom and Elizabeth Olsen will be doing a Loki/Red Witch tv series for the new Disney streaming service under Marvel Studios?! "The actors who portrayed these heroes and villains in the Avengers films and their spin-offs, such as Tom Hiddleston and Elizabeth Olsen, are expected to play them in the streaming shows." I'm nonplussed.
>>838 It sounds prettt speculative TBH. I see Marvel has not commented!
Not sure of the credibility of the Standard but they're saying that TNM2 may not happen.
>>841 Two inaccurate statements in that article:
>>836 Sorry for not responding to this earlier - a lot to chew over re timing. I’d be interested to know if you now think it was fake (separately from the question of when exactly TH bought into the publicity plan).
I just keep looking at how she has been with her new lover - almost totally off grid even though she has supposedly been seeing him for more than a year. There have been maybe two or three stories with fake (ie arranged) pap shots, and maybe one or two with genuine fuzzy as hell pap pics. It feels real in a way that a lot of her other relationships just haven’t (not only Tayto).
>>843 I’m still mulling my answer to that - more to come. In the meantime, I found this for potential discussion, related to Tom’s film career going forward: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2018/sep/13/juicing-work-outs-monetsising-self-obsession-acting-mark-wahlberg
The reintroduction continues: https://www.jw3.org.uk/event/ahjw3-speaker-series-tom-hiddleston-and-josie-rourke , and it’s sold out, of course.
The reintroduction continues: https://www.jw3.org.uk/event/ahjw3-speaker-series-tom-hiddleston-and-josie-rourke
Sorry for the duplicate - I thought captcha ate the first one!
Taffy is still milking her 15 minutes of fame, now with the lovely comment she apparently made to Tom of "Tom, this has been the best week of my life. You should try to enjoy this more. I know it was tough with the Taylor stuff, but this is really amazing."-- https://www.celebitchy.com/593530/taffy_brodesser-akner_has_a_great_story_about_tom_hiddleston_apologizing_to_her/
>>848 I saw this a few days ago - was going to comment and never got round to it. That woman is a piece of work isn’t she? Does a hatchet job, then milks it frantically for weeks on end, then mills it again while revealing she has been a complete bitch!!
Pretty harsh words, and uncalled for, calling her a bitch. Obviously Tom didnt think the interview was bad since I'm sure his publicist gave the ok to run it and Tom himself was liking Twitter posts that approved of it the day the interview was released. I'm sure he's still friends with Taffy now much to your displeasure. The disgusting ageism and misogyny of his fanbase never fails to surprise me.
Oh rly? Well, it never ceases to amaze me how many sanctimonious nannying cunts there are in Tom’s fanbase, who lurk on this board in the hope of sucking up some gossip simultaneously with pretending to be above it all and whingeing when we say something mildly critical. Piss off back to your nanny blog on tumblr.
Mildly critical? You mean with your foaming in your mouth outburst and misogynistic language. Calling women a cunt or a bitch because she told a funny story about the media calling her "mystery brunette" because she was photographed and hugged Tom and mistakenly thought of as Tom's girlfriend. Good thing Tom is charging $200 plus dollars in dealing with you psychos. I don't blame the man in not dealing with his toxic fanbase, especially on social media. Poor guy.
>>852 No, I’m calling you a cunt, actually.
I’m calling her a bitch for telling him “I know it was tough with the Taylor stuff but this (meaning her 5 minutes of fame at his expense) is really amazing.” Anyone else - meaning anyone who’s been on this board for more than 3 seconds - think that was a bit self-absorbed/unkind/bitchy?
>>852 “Tom is too much of a suck up, he wants everyone to love him” - that was you as well wasn’t it?
You must have a personality disorder if you think you can post stuff like this and then throw around dirt about his “toxic fanbase.”
Talk to me when you can stop with the ad hominems and using derogatory words like cunt, bitch or whatever type of crap you think up. Can you do that? Dont worry I'll wait. Until then you can take your own advice and fuck off.
I notice you aren’t denying it was you who said these things, and that you are in no respect able to answer the criticism that you consider yourself free to say whatever you like while getting on your high horse about others’ views that don’t satisfy whatever mysterious morality criteria that exist in your head.
And I will make one further observation about you and your ilk.
People come in this board and say all sorts of critical things: Tom’s losing his hair, he looks like a scruff, his interviews are extra, his relationship is fake. There has been robust disagreement over the years about whether those things are true or not, but the rule has always been, no criticism of someone for expressing those views. Everyone has a right to their opinion.
You're projecting. A lot.
>>857 Well said.
>>849 I was wondering, myself, if this event was to make a project announcement quietly, maybe one with Josie Rourke. But given that he's recently turned up at a couple of well-publicized events, you're likely right that his rehab/reintroduction rollout is kicking into a higher gear.
Warning long post. Dgaf if no one reads it or not especially to the person whose it aimed at. This is for posterity sake more then anything.
>>857 So you're taking the "free speech" approach as in "no one judge my opinion and I can say whatever I want without anyone judging it". I called you out because you called Taffy, for no apparent reason because of an innocent remark she said, a bitch. She didnt call Tom names and also reassured him that he didnt need to apologize about the Daily Mail thinking her, a married woman, as his girlfriend. She was telling him it wasn't his fault and she found the claim funny because he was scared of a type of Hiddleswift fiasco again. You on the other had judged this woman for no apparent reason a bitch because she didnt reply the way you wanted to. Do you even know what the definition of a bitch is? Apparently not since you're reading into something that isn't there with her and with me.
You who have turned this whole discussion not about asking me why I think you calling Taffy a bitch is misogynistic but of projecting onto me of being a troll because you got PTSD from some other people who didnt conform to your ways and thinking I give a flying fuck about being some actor's #1 fan when, as you've quoted from my past posts, I do no such thing (and even if i were I'm doing an awful job of it with calling out his ego, sycophantic fans dont say the stuff I've said about him).
On Torilla, a couple of pictures and a short video clip from the "Dickens vs Tolstoy" event today. Lots more of both on social media/tumblr. A video should be posted by the organization in the next 10 days or so. His hair may need its own postal code soon, but he looked good (in uniform, but good).
And now Tom will be performing alongside David Suchet, Patrick Marber, TNM castmate Russell Tovey, Hollow Crown/Deep Blue Sea castmate Simon Russell Beale, Kristin Scott Thomas, etc. in a charity gala celebrating Harold Pinter's birthday, "Pinter at the Pinter"! I'm still wondering what his next project will be. If Tom is really doing the Loki online series for Disney, what does this cerebral thinking man re-boot of his career have to do with that? Is that just about money?
And now Tom is taking a classic pap walk, while walking Bobby with a tall "mystery brunette" in London. Let the madness begin.
>>865 The DM calls her a pal, and also notes that Tom is currently single. Tom's slightly questionable PR team is back, and it is in full effect, gosh help us.
>>864 Well, no one has officially confirmed the Loki series (even Tom's PR tweeted about it and then deleted the tweet). Maybe he and EO will be asked about it at the Chicago con - they're doing a panel together.
If he does do it, it could just be for the money. Maybe he's going for the sort of life where he does a lot of small charity/passion projects, and does something more pop-culture oriented now and then to finance the rest. I hope there are some videos from the Pinter performances - Pinter's work is so [pause] stylistically different [pause] from anything I've [paaaaauuuse] seen Tom do before.
>>865, >>866 Funny how this comes only a few days after some tumblr anons were commenting that we haven't seen him out with Bobby in quite a while. From what I've seen, reaction to this has been surprisingly subdued (though I haven't checked Twitter - taking a break from the political firestorms here, which have been stressing me out a lot. Thank goodness for new Tom content.)
>>869 I think that we're just calmly bemused at the lack of creativity of his PR team. They're definitely well intending one-trick ponies. Remember when Tom took a pap walk w that brunette in the short skirt, while walking in his neighborhood, and she was a regular at Ginger and White? Now we have another brunette on a scheduled neighborhood pap walk, and she is apparently in the TH fandom, and became a local resident and a regular at Ginger and White to meet Tom?! Joanna gets press for her singer/songwriting career, he gets a little press for the day. Also reminds me of when Tom was seen out and about w his RADA chum Sian, but the photos are even more benign.
A few more torilla pics of Tom on the pap walk, while talking to a mother and a daughter who are either fans or they are asking him for directions.
Celebitchy is pretty biased against Hiddleston: "My vibe from the photos isn’t “hot and heavy.” I’m not even sure that Tom is capable of looking hot & heavy with someone in candid photos..." Ouch. but maybe it's good that even Tom's critics acknowledge how he's consistently pulled back from the press and from PR shenanigans, and is trying to get back to a more grounded life.
Lots of pictures of Tom (and other participating celebs) at the afterparty for the Pinter birthday event tonight: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/tom-hiddleston-attends-an-after-party-for-happy-birthday-news-photo/1051850720
Very excited Twitter sighting of Tom on the tube, w a script in hand, perhaps.
Sosorry. This is the full handle for the twitter sighting of Tom on the tube. She wrote quite a lot about the sighting.
Pictures of Tom, Michael Kors, Kate Moss, and his his old Suburban Shootout costar Ruth Wilson at an MK cocktail party.
Apparently the chance of The Night Manager sequel is not looking good. I'm kind of relieved about this.
>> 878 Not surprising at this point, and probably just as well that it won’t happen if they can’t come up with. a great script.
Excerpts from the Pinter celebration: https://www.facebook.com/PinteratthePinter/videos/347313169169223/
>>872 "Celebitchy" is the title of a series of pretty nice clothed JAV. I thought I'd let you know.
Tom Hiddleston and Richard Madden attend the press night of 'I and You' at Hampstead Theatre in support of his Tom's Early Man film costar, Maisie Williams. Richard Madden is kind of wearing Tom's uniform w brown chelsea boots instead of grey, and he's just starred in this year's The Night Manager, The Bodyguard. Wild.
Guess who’s doing another comic con? TwitterDOTcom/ACEcomiccon/status/1056249060070440961
New pics of Tom buying two new pairs of Hunter boots at the Hunter store on Regent St in London.
>>882 The salary for those conventions must be pretty good. Or maybe he signed a K agreement to do a certain number of conventions w ACE this year.
>>883 Now let's hope he buys some new jeans to replace the ones that sprang a hole at the last con!
Cons do pay off really well for popular celebrities. That he's doing so many in a row suggests a contract, a lead-in to something Loki, or a last chance to cash in on that role.
Tom was just seen in classic white tie and tails at the Annual Banquet of the Worshipful Company of Shipwrights, held at the Mansion House in London. There is a great pic of the invitation, and a short paragraph about Tom's Scottish ancestors who worked in the shipping industry on the hiddlesfashion blog. I'm not sure his messy hair and beard go with such a distinguished dress code, but it's great to see him out and about. Tom's image reboot continues, but what is he rebooting towards? Hmm...
Deadline states that the Loki/Scarlet Witch w Hiddleston and Olsen series is one of several "potential series" tipped to be offered with the new Disney streaming service, along with a Winter Soldier/Falcon series, set for late 2019. We shall see...Btw, why wasn't Tom cast in Kenneth Branagh's new film about the life of Shakespeare starring Ken and Dame Judi Dench? And apparently, casting for Ken's Poirot sequel Death on the Nile has started and includes Armie Hammer and Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot. Fingers crossed that AH didn't swipe the romantic male lead part of Simon.
Apparently the reviewers are not claiming that the new LeCarre/BBC adaptation of The Little Drummer Girl is as seductive entertainment as "Hiddleston's buttock-baring spy romp" Night Manager hit. I guess that's a compliment of sorts.
>>889 I suspect Armie Hammer wouldn't have been announced for the DOTN cast unless he will be the romantic male lead, alas. But also maybe just as well for Tom - the release date for it just moved almost a year later than originally scheduled: https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/murder-orient-express-sequel-hit-big-delay/
Summary of the speakers' event with Tom and Josie Rourke last week: https://www.ahf-jw3series.com/event/tom-hiddleston-josie-rourke/
There will be an official video of it soon, they say. Some very nice pictures in that post! I particularly like these:
>>889 Kevin Feige has confirmed that there will be streaming series, but didn't say with which characters.
>>881 (This finally should catch me up on his appearances) He's back to his glum "official pictures in the UK" face in these.
Quite a contrast to how much like "old Tom" he looked at the Chicago comiccon, for example: https://66.media.tumblr.com/5106277d13a3795457ce44c270f936be/tumblr_ph1hodDbTJ1t6jp58_500.jpg - there are tons of photo ops pictures on SM in which he's genuinely smiling and laughing.
Tom at the Breakthrough Brits by Reception Burberry in London.
>>895 Not one of his better hair appearances.
He’s doing yet another con, this one as a replacement for Seb Stan - see tokyocomiccon on Twitter.
Tom Hiddleston is officially confirmed for the Loki Disney series. Wow. I'm numb. Should be a solid paycheck, but how does his career as a dramatic actor evolve as well? Does he do plays when he is not filming? Is he still going to fight for supporting roles in dramas? I'm confused.
>>898 Boy, it’s starting to feel like “what career as a dramatic actor”? At least based on what we have (not) seen for the last 2 years, except for RadHam. His Brit and MCU peers all seem to be getting work, and he’s getting... convention cash. I wonder if he’s working on moving into producing or directing and is building up a large sum with which he can bankroll projects.
Tom (or someone on his behalf) tweeted about the Loki series: twitterDOTcom/twhiddleston/status/1060955612413079558/photo/1
I find myself more excited by his return to social media than by the series itself.
I wonder how it feels to have tanked your own career.
Interesting event - looks like a cross between poetry and a play: https://www.the-print-room.org/theatre/poetry/dead-poets-live-the-broken-word/
New pics of Tom walking Bobby today in London from Torilla. He's wearing the uniform, of course : )
Tom just posted a new work project on Twitter w a brand new video!! Speculation is that this is a teaser trailer for a new TV adaptation of the lauded Harold Pinter play Betrayal. That is currently unconfirmed, but Hiddleston did wear this suit, while appearing at a London gala honouring Pinter just last month.
>>905 Very interesting. His scene at the Pinter gala was from "Betrayal." I googled, and it hasn't had a major production in London for about seven years, which seems to be a typical amount of time to pass between its revivals. And as of the date of that Josie Rourke interview, her last production at the Donmar hadn't been announced yet.
>>906 I also meant to say, a Rourke/TH collaboration would help explain that otherwise rather random interview/career retrospective event.
>>905 - >>907 Yup, it’s Betrayal but with another director: https://www.pinteratthepinter.com/the-plays/betrayal
Tom filled in for his Hollow Crown co-star, Jeremy Irons, w George MacKay, Yasmin Paige, Faaiz Mbelizi, and Toby Jones on stage at the for Dead Poets Live: The Broken Word reading. He wore his old 2015 McQueen suit w black leather boots for the event, and changed into his uniform for the reception. Apparently, Tom specifically said that he didn't want to take pictures during the after show drinks reception, but here are a few of the photos of the event and the reception. ALso, a pic of Tom riding the tube, a day or so ago.
>>909 I didn't know he was filling in for Jeremy Irons. Funny, given that in the film of Betrayal, Irons played the role that Tom will be doing on stage.
Video from the Dickens v. Tolstoy event: https://youtu.be/gLXpYJDdEUI
Al Pacino will be starring in a film adaptation of King Lear. Team Tom should try to nab him a role in this. Maybe Edmund, as his friend John Macmillan just played that part in the BBC version w Anthony Hopkins? Or Edgar, perhaps?
>>912 That could be good - per the Guardian article, Pacino's "Merchant" made better money than most Shakespeare films. It's supposed to start filming next fall, though, which might conflict with the Loki series going into production.
Torilla pics of Tom walking Bobby on Nember 27. He's wearing a new black Nike windbreaker, and black Nike running shoes.
>>914 Any dog owners out there - is it an obedience training thing not to interact with your dog while out for a walk? Or do we think the paps just can't sell those pictures?
>>914 More dog-walking pictures here: http://www.justjared.com/2018/11/27/tom-hiddleston-flashes-a-big-smile-while-walking-his-dog/
Behind-the-scenes shots from the Betrayal trailer - some nice b&w photos of Tom: https://www.facebook.com/pg/dusthouse/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10155675245926384
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Tom's arrival at the Tokyo comic con - this picture shows him wearing (gasp) new pants and new shoes (though the same uniform): https://www.weibo.com/torilla#_rnd1543635161833
Arrival at the airport yesterday with Luke in tow: https://www.weibo.com/1846858632/H4TFfqB1u?from=embedded_weibo&type=comment#_rnd1543635245614
Apparently Tom Hiddleston was mentioned in a story in The Cut, in an article alleging that Priyanka Chopra's relationship with, and marriage to Joe Jonas is completely fake and for PR purposes. Well, Duh! Allegedly Priyanka wanted a PR relationship w a famous celebrity to cement her status worldwide status, and the article said that Tom didn't make it to be her selection. I knew that Emmy Awards onstage twirling session would come back to haunt him! No more hanging out near thirsty people, or being thirsty yourself, Tom! They had to cave in and remove the article, though.
>>921 Though not hanging out with thirsty people could be a challenge, given his profession (especially the movie industry).
Speaking of which, I was sorry to see that no sooner had the new Loki series been announced, his rank in the Bond betting jumped up again. I so wish that would stop.
Tom at a BFI event last night with Prince Charles:
On Twitter at /BFI/status/1070702520396320769 (more pictures on torilla)
Pics of Tom visiting with staff of a children’s hospital today: https://www.instagram.com/p/BrGSqFFA38e/
This Week in Hiddlesland
Ending Dec. 23, 2018:
Oh dear. The oral surgeon father of actress Maddison Hasson, who played Tom’s teen bride in ISTL, Billie Jean, has been accused of sexually abusing at least four women while they were under the influence of anaesthesia and in his care at a clinic in North Carolina. This includes one count of 2nd degree forcible sex offense. I hope that these women receive swift justice under the law. Those poor women. Of course the DM used the picture of Tom w Maddie at a premiere of ISTL. This story is so disturbing.
>>927 The thought of someone you ought to be able to trust taking intimate advantage of young women is bad enough, but to do it when they were under anesthesia is despicable. I hope they throw the book at him.
At least the DM didn't use the ISTL picture at the top of the story, and restrained themselves from somehow working TS into it!
>>928 Thanks for the welcome back. I think that people are just waiting until more of the Betrayal PR really kicks off, or news of an additional new project pops up. Tom looked so awkward, guarded and self aware in the pics of him leaving Craig's restaurant in LA. It's like he has his fingers crossed that no one calls him a famewhore for doing pap strolls, and that no one writes about TS in the DM articles. Pics of Tom leaving Barbara Broccoli's pre-BAFTA party at the Savoy Hotel from Torilla. Please no more silly Bond conversations till Daniel Craig is finished with his last film!
Pics of Tom attending the press night for Ivo Van Hove's new production of All About Eve w Gillian Andersen and Lily James. I love Ivo Van Hove, but All About Eve is a pretty perfect movie, and doesn't need to be a stage play. Neither does Network or To Kill a Mockingbird, IMO. His Betrayal costars, Zawe Ashton and Charlie Cox were there, too. Tom's wearing his burgundy sweater under his navy pea coat, which is a nice change.
Very nice rehearsal shots of atom and the rest of the Betrayal cast: https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/tom-hiddleston-betrayal-pictures-harold-pinter-rehearsals-a4068396.html
>>929, >>930 Interesting contrast between these sets of pictures. In the first two (Craig's and pre-BAFTA), he's scarcely smiling at all, even in the posed shots at the party. But he's all smiles in the ones for the press night. Because he had company for that event (his Betrayal co-stars)? Because he knows he's about to have to do more events as promo for his play and he needs the story not to be about how glum he looks? At least he finally trimmed his side beard and the dimples are once again visible.
Tom and his co star Zawe Ashton were spotted watching Martin Freeman and John Heffernan performing in the play, The Dumb Waiter, at The Pinter Theatre.
Twitter sighting of Tom and Zawe Ashton at an art museum.
>>934 I hope that was "homework" for Betrayal, or cue the rumors....
Article on the new Loki Series, and the new Scarlett Witch/Vision series. Apparently these new Marvel projects will work in the same timeline with the Marvel films, and they will be supervised by the same creative team as the films, contrary to the other Marvel shows so far. The actors will sign on for only 9-10 series at a time. Hopefully Tom will get to executive produce the series, make some serious residuals, and negotiate a pay raise after season 1.
Pictures of the cast of Betrayal.
Apparently Bobby was waiting at the stage door: twitterDOTcom/cumberbatchlive/status/1103425177419988993/photo/1
>>937 These photos seem to capture the mood of the stark setting very well. And could that be a new blue sweater? It’s even tighter than usual.
Video of Tom and his costar Zawe Ashton seen leaving the theatre together, in his car. Heading to a party, maybe?
>>940 Could be - he looked to be carrying a bottle of something alcoholic. But it also looked as if he got in the front seat of the car, while Zawe was in the back, so I doubt that this glimpse together means anything.
I like that Bobby has been there for every performance except the matinee day!
>>941 I agree. Apparently co-star Charlie Cox was also in the back of the car, that's why I said co-star Zara, and not rumoured gf, or anything. And Yay! Even celebitchy and the commentators are calling out Taylor Swift for her silly Elle magazine article, and for her habit of orchestrating PR relationships and PR friendships for beneficial press to sell albums. Since all of her stunting partners, including Tom, Karlie Kloss, and even Kim Kardashian have emotionally moved on, and are not talking about her, and that TS is the problem. Wow! Where were they durnig the summor of terror?!
Pics of press night and solid reviews for Betrayal, and Tom! Hurrah. Dailymail critic review was mixed.
Tom unknowingly photobombs group in restaurant:
Random recent bits I’ve found interesting:
>>941 Oh, the Celebitchy commentators were busy defending the reality of the Summer of Terror during it, IIRC!
>>943 That first DM review read as if the writer had to be restrained from including Tayto and the Shirt of Shame yet again. The second review was more professional, though they singled out Zawe as the best of the three: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-6808407/Tom-Hiddleston-powerful-presence-Betrayal-Zawe-Ashton-steals-show.html
>>947 thank you! Good to see he’s out and about again, in his element.
Tom interviews film composer Nicholas Britell, composer of If Beale Street Could Talk and the HBO show Succession, on the Only Artists program on BBC Radio 4. Tom is in his cerebral element. And of course he mentions The Last of the Mohicans soundtrack, and he quotes his lines from Othello. Tom needs to improve his classical musical references, though. We all love Debussy Claire de Lune, but enough of that, already. It was mentioned in the teeny bopper film, Twilight.
>950 He was probably too busy perfecting his dance moves (in his misspent youth in the '90s) to have spent much time on the classics!
Clip from another BBC interview, this time with Tom and Zawe about Betrayal: https://twitterDOTcom/BBCFrontRow/status/1108431700512698369
The full program is here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003d97
Tom Hiddleston is a racist, communist, fascist, white bastard that raped his mother and sister, mutilated and ate six baby children, and is in complete support of genocide of the entire human race.
Tom’s commercial for Centrum vitamins is linked below. Um. Hmm. Ew?! I’m not a fan of this commercial. But I hope that Tom was paid well, and that the commercial is well received in China. That’s all.
>>954 And the gentle teasing about Tom's Centrum Vitamin commercial commences.
"Through the transitive property of A equals Tom Hiddleston and B equals Centrum, A plus B means Centrum is now an aphrodisiac. That’s just math."
>>954 I can't stop snickering about this! I'm with you - it's so cheesy, and then a little creepy when the very young woman appears at the end.... But the comments I've seen from people familiar with Chinese ads say that this one is typical, and cute; plus his Mandarin pronunciation is apparently perfect.
>>955 The comments on that piece are a hoot!
More gentle coverage and comments: https://www.themarysue.com/are-we-dating-tom-hiddleston/
Some coverage of fan reactions to the A: Endgame Loki poster that Marvel dropped yesterday:
I Best comment in this one: “This is the creepiest commercial I have ever seen, and I am including Matthew McConaughey’s “Driving Lincolns While Stoned” anthology.” https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/tom-hiddleston-vitamin-ad/?amp
What has this world come to? A gossip columnist sticking up for Tom and The Commercial? And it's not an April Fool's joke! https://www.laineygossip.com/defending-tom-hiddleston-and-his-centrum-vitamin-commercial/52335
>>960 I hadn't gotten to the comments on that piece - too funny. (And see - we're not the only ones who wear tinfoil hats when needed!)
963 Tom looked good at the Olivier Awards today: http://www.justjared.com/2019/04/07/tom-hiddleston-looks-handsome-at-laurence-olivier-awards-2019/
Whoever styled him did a much better job than the person who claimed credit for him at Zawe Ashton's book premiere. Today, he was wearing something other than his blue peacoat, the beard is closely trimmed, and his hair looks clean!
No streamed or recorded Betrayal: On Twitter: /JamieLloydCo/status/1115252013464522752
Tom and his Betrayal costars, out at a play together. I Wonder what play it was.
The only thing I've come across recently, besides stage door pictures and Loki (Endgame complaints, series speculation:
Thor 4 with Tom, Jeff Goldblum, Cumberbatch, and Cate Blanchett directed by Taika! I'm excited and yet fearful that Tom will never escape Marvel.
>>967 Apologies for the delayed reply. That's a good find, though it seems rather speculative to me. Even if it pans out (and I'm with you in having mixed feelings about that), it may not be for some time. Taika seems to have a lot lined up for the near future: https://deadline.com/2019/06/taika-waititi-flash-gordon-animated-movie-thor-ragnarok-jojo-rabbit-fox-disney-1202637059/
>>969 Also, while I don't doubt Tom's sincerity as a BAFTA ambassador, I think it's a clever move on someone's part to have him maintain a public presence in China. Their film market is only going to continue to grow, and his popularity there might help to persuade producers to hire him, even if he's not a major box office draw in the West.
Tom is making his Broadway debut along with Charlie and Zawe in Betrayal! Yay! Tom’s first Tony nomination could be on the horizon! We shall see. Here we go!
>>971 I know - that's such great news! I hope this will include a good profile interview or two (about something in addition to Loki).
Lots of pictures of Tom with the Cumberbatchs at today's Wimbledon men's finals on torilla's page: https://s.weibo.com/weibo?q=%23Tom+Hiddleston%23&from=default (hope the link works - I have trouble with weibo links)
Hope he was comfortable in that suit for the 5-hour match!
Tom's in NYC for Betrayal and it posted on the Gram: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz-9uFqglus/
This is Tom’s new Sirius radio interview about his arrival in NYC, his Pinter play Betrayal, Shakespeare, his Broadway debut, etc.
Forbes article that includes Betrayal sales - looks like mixed results so far: https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeseymour/2019/09/09/tom-hiddleston-is-selling-just-fine-on-broadway-as-industry-slows/amp/
>>977 it'll go up to positive in just a few days watch!!
Anyone in the U.K. may now have access to the NT Live recording of Tom’s Coriolanus performance: http://www.playbill.com/article/national-theatre-releases-archival-production-tapes-in-new-educational-initiative
Betrayal is running a 2nd round of Meet-and-Greet package evenings (the first ones were this past Thurs. and Fri.): https://broadwayplus.com/shows/betrayal/
Wonder if these were always planned or if they need to fill orchestra seats.
In addition to the live performance, the Betrayal cast's appearance on Live from Here (the former Prairie Home Companion) will be broadcast live on Nov. 16th, and the video will be available until late the next day:
"Watch Live: See the show from 5:45-8 pm ET on Saturday, November 16th, via our video livestream on YouTube. The stream will then be available to view until Sunday, November 17th, at 11 pm ET.
A new modeling gig! http://www.hiddlesfashion.com/2019/11/bosideng-x-tom-hiddleston-2019.html?m=1
Crimson Peak is on a list of hottest movie sex scenes: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2013/09/53441/movie-sex-scenes