Internet Culture @4-ch

Internet Culture @4-ch

Internet Culture, sub-cultures, the people who use the internet and everything else relating to is up for discussing. Let's try to talk about more than just imageboard websites, as there is more to the internet than just them.
  • Label any links you post as 'NWS' if they are not safe for viewing at work.
  • Please don't bother posting browser crashers or shock sites. They'll get removed, and you might get banned.
Rules · 規則
基本的には英語の使用を強く希望します。ただ日本語板の場合は日本語か英語。
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P2P sharing program (7)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-09 03:03 ID:QWipFq7b

well i like to use p2p sharing programs but theres one thing i would like to know and maybe someone has an anwser for that:

WHY THE FREAKING CRAP DO MOST DOWNLOADS STOP WHEN THEY ARE 99,999999% DONE?!?!?!?!
IS IT LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO SHARE ARE LIKE: "HAHAHA THIS MORON'S DOWNLOAD IS ALMOST DONE... ILL STOP SHARING JUST ON THE LAST MOMENT HAHAHAHAHA"

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-09 07:52 ID:hocXPQZK

because they know you'll, in turn, most likely stop sharing the moment you get 100%

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-10 12:50 ID:NRF00qos

With some apps (e.g. early bittorrent clients) the 99.9% problem happens because of this:

  1. Your client requests the final piece of a file from somebody.
  2. This somebody either logs off after this, or queues you way down in his download queue, or chokes you (on bittorrent) or just has a veeeery slow upload speed.
  3. Your client is stuck with downloading from the other client at a very low speed (Or is waiting in queue, or is retrying a dozen times before it gives up), and you are stuck with 99.9%.

Newer p2p clients often fix this problem by using something called "Endgame mode": When only one piece is left, this piece is requested from all other peers at once.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-11 16:35 ID:ku9JWA/j

What >>3 said (was interesting btw, didn't know about endgame mode)

Also see
http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Torrents_stop_at_99_percent

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-08-13 06:25 ID:9Ucdeigj

>>1
Yeah. That happened to me just 5 days ago. Stopped at 98% and I coudn't find the bastard since. How cruel!

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-11-21 13:42 ID:Heaven

This is probably because the Original seeder wants you to seed to everybody else because you have 99% of the file/s instead of you just closing the seed after you get 100%

i think there is an special options for this also when you create an torrent for seeding to only seed 99,9%.

But if youre downloading a movie that is 99,9% you can just close it and the movie will still work :P

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2021-01-02 22:36 ID:z++zyy9I

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Pros and cons of anonymity (23)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-09-20 15:31 ID:zkNVEXtT

Advantages:
* It's difficult to be prejudiced/biased against a poster because of who they are
* The focus is on the idea not the person who says it
* It is possible to say whatever opinion you like without repercussions
Disadvantages:
* It's easier for people to get away with contradictions
* It's easier for people to get away with for instance running away from the argument if they lose and then coming back in a different thread with the same opinions that were refuted earlier
* It's difficult to get to know a person. This means that one has to rely on the assumption of a shared culture to understand how that person thinks (not sure if this is true or not but it's an interesting idea)
* It is possible to speak in whatever tone you like without repercussions
The more anonymous the medium the more extreme the above points get.

14 Name: Bypel!y/zA3nqygs!!j/WxuqrX : 2015-12-09 21:55 ID:Heaven

Considering these disadvantages I have decided err on the side of nature (identity is more natural than anonymity) and make more of an identity for myself.

15 Name: Bypel !y/zA3nqygs!!j/WxuqrX : 2015-12-10 16:43 ID:zkNVEXtT

Advantage:

  • People spying on you can only identify you for the posts they have seen you write.

16 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-12-10 19:08 ID:oP6ua1lX

Disadvantage:

  • People still treat anonymous boards the same way they do regular forums and try to gain seniority by arguing about who's been there longer, even though there is no way to actually tell and it doesn't matter.

17 Name: Bypel !y/zA3nqygs!!j/WxuqrX : 2015-12-11 20:26 ID:zkNVEXtT

One advantage of identity is that reputations could be damaged by committing logical fallacies or using dishonest arguments so there's an incentive to think about what you say and be honest. On the other hand though in some communities reputation could be damaged by simply expressing certain beliefs.

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20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-07-24 14:24 ID:Heaven

Everyone knows it's Matt Miller, deep down we all know.. https://bijou.4ct.org/deep_search/tinychan

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-30 07:52 ID:CwX9FBpQ

>>14
Wow, you're a fag and your posts are retarded

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-30 15:28 ID:NO8g50Fs

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2021-01-01 14:56 ID:BkCfPmTW

>>6
Shii was right

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End of cool japan (29)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-08-29 13:04 ID:oldIYLXR

saw this book mentioned on shanachan i think

> The End of Cool Japan: Ethical, Legal and Cultural Challenges to Japanese Popular Culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Japan is an interesting concept. Gross National Cool is what spawned all this crazy stuff right?

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-03 18:49 ID:xxnI8bKI

>>19
Why do you keep spamming emojis? Is your life so boring and eventless?

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-05 13:51 ID:ppq5RmLH

>>20

Gen Z ruins everything it touches.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-06 11:28 ID:lrzbO0en

>>21
Imagine giving fault to an entire generation for a spammer.

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24 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-08 20:37 ID:Heaven

  ∧_∧
  (  。_。) >>23
_(_つ / ̄ ̄/­_
  \/__/

25 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-09 08:35 ID:7x6bSj8Y

This is dumb, Cool Japan is just a government-funded program to get small children and tourists interested in Japanese stuff.
And the spammer isn't an issue to me, just turn emojis off in your OS, it is interesting to read threads from years or even decades past.

26 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-13 18:46 ID:Heaven

Laziest spammer I've ever seen, if you can actually call it that.

27 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-27 09:18 ID:ppq5RmLH

>>26

I know right if hes gonna troll people on here he should do a better job these emoji spamming faggots are just a attention whores.

28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-29 01:14 ID:Sc38KfrF

I really wish the Japanese dream never ended. China is scary and Americans are soulless.

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2021-01-01 03:42 ID:Heaven

Japan is heinously anus

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Anyone willing to part with a Nevada-tan hoodie? (45)

1 Name: Osaka !8FVFEBTVK2 2005-08-18 22:29 ID:NKC60ER2

Does anyone here have the original Gear Navy Nevada hooded sweatshirt?

The original isn't sold anymore so those who have them, get them on eBay and notify the chans ASAP if you're willing to part: You'll make a killing!

36 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-13 15:36 ID:qk5u0pe5

>>34

Don't we all.

37 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-29 22:04 ID:SBB9mati

Does anyone have Shii's lewd nevada-tan artwork saved?
Or any archive of his "All About Nevada-tan" page on ESK?

38 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-08 21:12 ID:c6VXqZyC

bump

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40 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-10 01:30 ID:Heaven

>>39

>emojishit

sure is reddit in here

41 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-12 00:03 ID:Heaven

>>40
He keeps on posting that stuff all over the site.
I've no idea why.

42 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-14 05:33 ID:qk5u0pe5

>>41

It is really pissing me off to be honest.

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44 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-17 06:31 ID:o1VTsRda

>>37
I thought his lewd art was of a girl from Azumanga Diaoh.

45 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-12-20 08:31 ID:SBB9mati

>>44
Shii liked to draw all sorts of little girls.

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How to start a great new lively textboard bbs? (26)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2015-04-28 02:09 ID:ZP+XC1bY

I would like to create a great new BBS which gets a lot of posts every day, and everyone loves to visit it.

Thanks for you.

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18 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-30 00:18 ID:DARxhG0u

19 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-04 00:35 ID:yiYNI72i

>>13

>no spam
>free speech

Pick ONE.

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-05-05 17:40 ID:Fh5OKfLd

>>19
the nice thing about kareha is that it is simple and easy to set up, so if the mods on your favorite textboard consider your "free speech" as spam, then you can just start your own and build your own community.
but having guidelines around posting behavior is important unless you want your board to become shit. like ok, if you wanna be racist thats cool, just don't spam it. ruins the discussion.

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-05-15 03:51 ID:Heaven

I wish there were more textboard software, other than the already known scripts (e.g. Kareha, Tablecat, Emanon, Weabot, etc.).

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-05-17 19:01 ID:pfqbw7K5

>>21 What do you find lacking in the existing ones?

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-12 12:30 ID:oMyL1NiF

It would be better to draw people to,this site, just make sure they understand and appreciate classic Japanese style internet culture.
Wouldn't want to dilute this place and ruin the atmosphere.

24 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-14 19:17 ID:yxHPb6JM

>>18
Didnt this site inspire a shooter? lol

25 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-24 04:52 ID:9T2+85ai

>>24 That's Github for you

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Decreasing usability on the web (31)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-04-21 07:22 ID:ReD2ZvAk

It seems like the web is getting harder to use.

Or maybe I'm just getting older.

  • I was using a search bar on a website. It had no "search" button ... it was just a text field. I tried hitting enter and nothing happened. The screen didn't change or anything. I finally reloaded and tried again and THEN my search actually returned results.
  • I was tabbing through a webpage, but the links were never highlighted or outlined to let me know that I was tabbed on them.
  • Webpages have become harder to read! I'm serious. There is something wrong with the new age typefaces. It's like someone decided to make a new font that inherited 3 X chromosomes so every character could be big, but skinny.

I am not adapting well to the future at all.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-30 00:43 ID:5q9PTsl0

Bring back Xanadu.

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-06-11 16:32 ID:3+XpAFU0

it's like cable TV now

24 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-02-01 23:33 ID:K8DnlnsE

>>23
drowing in the rising tide

25 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-26 07:13 ID:tA0aTzZF

Fuck endless scrolling! Fuck it.

26 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-27 23:09 ID:LvpQfij3

>>22
fucking Shangrila

27 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-29 02:03 ID:nj6AC9Ec

just some basic html and css skills can create a great webpage with only a few tags. but no serious website would ever do that.

28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-29 21:27 ID:BVL1KDho

>>19
UX is a cancer upon the world. I don't understand the point either, people in the mainsteam aren't gonna give that much more of a shit about the title being a different font and taking up half of the screen or the header resizing itself depending on the direction you scroll, so why not just give the actual content and keep things simple? I mean more often then not these sites are too ambitious in their UX and it becomes actively infuriating to work with. Wouldn't being a simple and direct news service be better at making viewers subconsciously prefer one site over the other? Isn't that why Yahoo Japan still holds its classic design?

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-05 11:08 ID:R6yJ1vZ+

>>25
dude
you do not have a fucking idead of how much i hate this shit
really
i hate too much

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31 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-07 22:02 ID:OVNBlGgT

>>30
dude
just stop

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sadpanda (7)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-07-29 15:38 ID:oxVMhGg7

What are you guys's thoughts on its demise?

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-08-02 06:35 ID:T7OPkBpI

Time to buy more hard drives and move to finland

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-08-08 20:07 ID:Heaven

it's back lol

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-08-23 01:03 ID:nQm3RRQM

anime butts drive me nuts

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-01-04 09:56 ID:Heaven

>>4
based

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-08-25 09:03 ID:4DOqhBmb

>>2
Only to be killed at a later date. Or bought by some American/Chinese corp.
Google Hentai. Tencent Hentai. You name it.

Backup now before it's too late.

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GET THE INTERNET OUT OF THE REAL WORLD (96)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-12-30 05:10 ID:kZAlYyKU

ITT discussion of people who use memes, jokes, or lingo in the real world. If I hear one more person say "lawl" in real life I think I am going to die

87 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-04-28 09:57 ID:tgnYFmJ4

yeah, pretty much. Also, nice sage.

88 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-05-20 19:54 ID:lmUE1mkp

>>85
I can't even decide on whether or not any of this is for the better or worse. I really fucking can't.
As with everything else in life, it all comes down to sheer complexity--the myriad of variables that create a myriad of results, whether good or bad.
It's not like everybody's unable to survive without their sanity intact or anything. The one good thing that's come out of this is the sheer amount of power you have over yourself, but, still, this is also boils down to option.
Also, results drastically differ upon region to region. Hell, even from school to school. The district next to mine is the complete fucking opposite to everything here. The schools there are absolutely chaotic and would cause any poor soul attending to become a shell of a human automatically. Then there's the district above us, who have almost nothing going on despite being a major metropolitan area.
Reality comes with a lot of surprises.

89 Name: sage : 2020-05-20 19:56 ID:lmUE1mkp

lol holy shit, sorry for the obscene formatting. I haven't posted on a textboard for quite some time.

90 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-06-14 13:04 ID:yx5N+BZF

I've used net speak irl, but it's always been on reflex. I've said pic related during a presentation and called something based on reflex once or twice, privately though.

The worst net speak irl I've seen is politics. My college has speeches and every few a freshman, who's obviously got all their info from twitter/Youtube ranters, tries to debate people with degrees and years of experience in their field. They use meme speak only their online groups use, which is disrespected every were else, and they always start with loaded questions.

91 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-06-27 10:41 ID:IFt2srJg

sometimes my friend says out loud DEUS VULT

92 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-08-07 17:38 ID:eJeHFjyP

>>90
I've accidentally called things based around my friends irl too, pretty embarrassing. It's actually kind of a difficult term to find an equivalent for in real words though, not sure what should be said instead.

93 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-08-25 08:08 ID:jr+ZohTZ

>>92
It's hard because you are stuck with stale netspeak.
I don't have to use 'based' irl since English is not my language, but any netspeak word can be traced back in its meaning and origin and translated to something else. Of course, some of the value the word carries is lost this way.

The bad part is the lazy attitude of replacing whole sentences with e.g. "that feel when" + insert meme I see adult people use.

94 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-26 07:44 ID:1+KkYnzL

When I find something amusing---but not amusing enough to actually laugh at it---sometimes a "lol" escapes from my mouth. It was a habit I started as a child.

95 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-26 08:23 ID:f5abjmrU

>>94 i just breathe slightly faster than normal

96 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-26 21:54 ID:wsMELXxI

I used to use internet jokes irl back in 10th grade, wondered why people didn't think I was funny.

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What's your least favorite website (41)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-04-04 02:49 ID:yAJllslA

What site do you hate the most? What site looks the worst, doesn't work, or just has fallen in quality over the years?

32 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-06-14 12:48 ID:3dmUgKsg

Honestly 'the worst site ever' would be some half finished project by a board teen or some sketchy site made to only datamine not one of these big sites.

My popular worst site ever would be Discord. Personal vendetta because all artist critique groups moved on there and the site sucks for that. It's impossible to have a 1 on 1 conversation about art when any rando can jump into the server and derail it. Also I use discord then abandon it a lot so I need to make a lot of new accounts. That doesn't sound bad, but they require a new email, that can't be a throwaway or old one, every time and some times they ask for a phone number.
>>8
It also sucks when people use social media as their platform because they think it can mean they can post stuff besides art. They can do whatever they want, but I hate it when I have to scroll past 20 meme repost for one doodle.

33 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-06-19 22:46 ID:e99lLOpN

Any site where users can create and moderate their own boards (reddit, 8ch/kun, etc). I don't think people realize just how much of a misfeature it is. You almost always end up with 15 boards dedicated to the same subject, each with a different take on it.

You're not going to have a board for politics, you're going to have a board for liberals, a board for conservatives, a board for communists, a board for anarchists, and a zillion other boards where you can go to avoid interacting with people you disagree with.

34 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-06-20 16:01 ID:zD4Qxhkk

>>33

>zillion other boards where you can go to avoid interacting with people you disagree with

in other words, S A F E S P A C E

35 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-06-24 15:28 ID:Heaven

>>32

>Honestly 'the worst site ever' would be some half finished project by a board teen

Those are good, nowadays the idea of owning a website on your own is a completely foreign concept and anything that does come up just requires some bootstrap template or site builder.
Even if its dumb and something that the teen will forget about or look back on with mild embarrassment, there should be more of those sites around.

36 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-07-12 03:39 ID:nX212ion

zdoom.org

37 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-07-14 02:56 ID:Heaven

>>33
I don't really think that is a problem inherent to user board creation. The problem is that they allow infinite user board creation instead of limiting it.

If the website limited the max amount of boards that can be made and pruned crappy ones then you wouldn't get splintering like you do in 8chan and reddit.

38 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-08-25 09:01 ID:hUwLdwtf

>>21
wikia is FANDOM now. Remember that. If you started making a wikia website about history of your town or something like that, it will now be FANDOM, with big ads to Superman or Boku no hero academia everywhere.
And there are no alternatives. Gamepedia is FANDOM too. The only wikis that are not FANDOM are self-designed and self-hosted.

39 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-09-06 07:38 ID:noWxdCYl

Wikia/FANDOM is a work of Satan

40 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-09-11 09:50 ID:NYmgsw9T

Twitter Tumblr Facebook 9gag I Funny Buzzfeed Reddit modern day 4chan and modern day Youtube are all absolute cancer and i hate every single one of them.

41 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-07 02:00 ID:RW83j0PH

As others have mentioned FANDOM is straight up super shitty, it looks awful, filled with ads, and worst of all, it buries the good non-FANDOM wikis due to SEO bullshit.
Nexus Mods and mugenarchive also come to mind as fucking garbage.
And fuck Discord for those people that host downloads on it like ygo percy.

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SEO = scum (5)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-08-11 16:31 ID:jzch7MA2

or is it just me?

Search algorithms are designed to return the most relevant results to a user's query. Which is generally a good thing, a positive service they provide to internet users (of course while making some money for themselves in the process)

Search engine "optimisation" exists only to subvert that process and return your site higher than anyone else's, regardless of how irrelevant it probably is. I'm always put off a site when I see visible signs of this practice; ie user-unfriendly URLs with long strings of keywords in them, page titles with same, semi-hidden pages bearing strangely-worded paragraphs and so on. As well as marking them out as a user of what I believe to be an unethical marketing technique, it just looks unprofessional - like businesses that name themselves AAAAAAAAAAAAAAJohn's Used Cars to be first in the phonebook.

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-09-21 13:21 ID:9mpPyo7g

SEO's are scum. SEOs are no different than Nigerian scammers or fucknoids who sent out mass spam emails.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-09-27 22:52 ID:Heaven

>>1
a lot of search engines actually rank sites lower for doing things like that. get a better search engine, and stop seeing that shit.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2009-10-01 12:52 ID:eMB3a24v

>>3
What is your understanding of a "better search engine" I wonder, and what adaption does it have to reality? That is, which search engine would you say is "good enough" (for some value to be enough)? If the answers google, read this: Google recently has changed its search engine to help wikipedia. Wikipedia has a major bandwidth problem and it strives to keep it low, that's why there's the "star" feature which makes an article read only for most users. These stars are given based on bandwidth consumption for the particular article (notice the calculations are more sophisicated than the sum of bytes transfered, since that'd mean a long article or an article with lots of media would rank high much easier than corresponding short one). If the article gets visited a lot, then it gets the star. Also, don't forget that Wikipedia does not stand alone on the matter of its existence, else it'd be dead time ago. Another problem of Wikipedia is that it got linked too much - simply too many people reference Wikipedia. Google ranked it higher than any other link in most results for which there was an article for it. That of course is something good, because wikipedia articles are up to par (for NON-technical endeavors). But google is massive, and wikipedia had to look for a way to free itself from such heavy weight put on its shoulders by google. The contract roughly was:
Articles which address diachronic concepts or factualities are still ranked on top; (th. Wikipedia dominates the academia using google), Therefore, articles which are regularly changed (in content, not appearance), such as present pseudo-historic commentary, trends, fashion, products, etc get a lower ranking; in particularly, there's a minimum 2 ranks distance (wikipedia is bound to the third position or lower, depending on its relevance to the query and of course the competitor websites which demand a place higher than WK), and other websites get to have their content 'highlighted'. That pleases both Wikipedia and everyone who was unpleased with the mass of Wikipedia (every advertising agency, even google). So you can see how this occured. Google became biased, more than it was before, if any. Lo - search engines return scrambled information: you have to fiddle through it with some criteria and judge.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-09-11 04:30 ID:c1zh/cej

SEO is just a symptom of the cancer that is the advertisement-supported web.

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