Do deleted posts necessarily have to be replaced with a system message? (9)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-16 14:07 ID:qbPZwD1O

Is it done for the sake of transparency or is it a software limitation? If it's the former, then it's just clutter and almost as harmful to the health of a thread as public ban messages on 4chan-based imageboards. It isn't like you know what, when and why it was deleted, only that something used to be there.

Just my two cents, anyway.

2 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-16 15:08 ID:Heaven

This is how most 2ch-like softwares have traditionally handled post deletion. Kareha simply followed Shiichan and 0ch and others which were doing it even before here. It's written firmly in the software I don't even think it can be turned off.

3 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-16 21:39 ID:Heaven

I mean, 2ch's software is kind of shit. Remember when it was about to go down in the early 2000s until the UNIX board optimized it a bit?

4 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-18 05:39 ID:PAbB4I17

The software of 2ch is even worse than kareha lol it can't even delete posts, thats why "deleted" posts have all their fields replaced with あぼーん and im pretty sure mods had to do that manually, probably still do? would explain why moderation is so rare

5 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-18 05:57 ID:Heaven

Oh yeah and they have a whole board for reports because they also lack a proper report system

6 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-10-19 02:34 ID:uhZThS+T

Yes. If you simply delete the post, it affects the message count and the >>reply system. Consider a reply that says >>3,6-8,11. When 7 is deleted, manually updating that >>reply string to >>3,6-7,10 is just a lot of work.

>>2-4
Obviously, you have never programmed a textboard before.

>>5
Kareha is public domain software. Why don't you program a report system if you're so clever? It shouldn't be that hard; client-side JS or no.

7 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-11-28 04:49 ID:Heaven

>>6
I wrote a textboard script last year, actually. I don't know why you assumed I have never programmed one before.

8 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-12-01 00:09 ID:hEZsAzfP

>>7
It probably sucks

9 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-12-07 01:43 ID:Heaven

>>6

>When 7 is deleted, manually updating that >>reply string to >>3,6-7,10 is just a lot of work.

It shouldn't be too hard, have the textboard assign different ids to posts internally, and then calculate the required post numbers when serving up the page. Replies to deleted posts can show something like ">>deleted" That said, Kareha stores threads in plain html, making anything of the sort impossible or at least unpleasant.
It would also fuck with the existing culture around post numbers, and make it harder to keep track of replies to deleted posts, so I really don't see any upsides for it.

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