The 3rd Genshiken Thread (192)

1 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 00:28 ID:Heaven [Del]

Okay, so I lied and here is a new thread WHERE WE DISCUSS EVERYTHING GENSHIKEN - BECAUSE IT'S WINTER!

And also because Episode just got subbed:

http://a.scarywater.net/solar/Genshiken%20-%2002%20%5BSolar%20%26%20Faith%5D.avi.torrent

43 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 22:03 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>42
I guessed as much... Nevermind.

44 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 22:47 ID:Heaven [Del]

And ADV are the fuckers who won't let it be published in the US.

45 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 23:16 ID:Heaven [Del]

ADV? More than one company owns the North American rights to many of the animes in SWR games. That's the whole problem. IIRC it's hard enough getting cooperation for a Japan release from all the studios without throwing the foreing licence holders into it.

46 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 23:48 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>44-45

Okay, understood.

47 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-21 15:24 ID:k4v3YLPg [Del]

Somehow I managed to get my dirty mits onto 1-31 of Genshiken the manga... RAW. I found it lurking around share, althought I got no clue on Japanese. Someone want me to post a page or seven onto an imageboard somewhere?

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49 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-21 17:10 ID:Heaven [Del]

Nevermind, that's exactly what you're talking about and it's on hongfire anyways. Stupid delete function.

51 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 00:58 ID:Heaven [Del]

Saki was awesome in this one.

52 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-24 02:34 ID:IbLdfjJA [Del]

I was hoping it'd get past the manga translations, but they spent a whole episode on this chapter. Good thing too, I suppose, because we got a lot of Saki action.

And the adaptation of that one 4-koma at the end was awesome too.

53 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-24 03:32 ID:txv/HBAQ [Del]

I didn't get what was the president implying to Saki.
I first thought it has to do with her and her boyfriend in-school activities, but the post-outro seems to say it has to do with Ohno? And no, I haven't read the manga.

54 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 08:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

It's implied that he has hidden cameras in the club room. So he may have witnessed Saki and Kosaka doing something, as well as Ohno changing into her cosplay outfit.

55 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 10:07 ID:Heaven [Del]

I don't know what those responsible for the artwork have thought when releasing this (please refer to http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/res/837.html). It's just horrible at times and it makes me feel really bad for the author of the manga to see his beautiful work hacked up like this.

56 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-24 13:22 ID:aSyUFbIA [Del]

Also: Saki blushing as she was defending the otaku was awesome.

57 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 15:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

You can maintain your cool but you cannot control your cheeks, Saki-chan!

Laffo @ her flipping over otaku & otaple.

58 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-25 06:50 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>55
It's the nature of sequential artwork (particularly animation) that not every frame will be a masterpiece... although I agree, it has been quite rough in places.

59 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-25 08:54 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>58
Manga (or comics in general) are also sequential artwork. Of course, the sequences produced in animation always require some sort of mass production, but that's no excuse to not do a quality check and somehow I doubt that that particular process was carried out correctly in some episodes, esp. the 5th (haven't watched much further but I have heard it doesn't get better later on).

60 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-25 17:54 ID:Heaven [Del]

Face it guys, no one gives a shit about creating the illusion of human movement or even using a ruler for basic chara art (witness Madatan sitting down in ep 05) on tv. Just be happy that they're still willing to employ talented va's.
Well, that's what I want to say, but since today is the day of giving and then a day or two later raping the shit out with small pox, I will give modern anime companies my apology juice.
The Genshiken anime is still a brillant adapation anyway. For everything they fuck up, there's still something awesome like Saki's "ooooooooooooo" mini-scream.

61 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-26 14:18 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>60

Or something like Madarame citing "Nekomimi!" in Ep 4.

62 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-28 22:00 ID:SGgcqrbw [Del]

is kosaka some sort of transcendent entity existing outside the regular karmic cycle all us mudanes have to suffer through?

63 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-28 23:04 ID:Hd+ibtrw [Del]

Either that, or he's looking by the window a lot - from that room opposed to the genshiken club room, in ep1. With binoculars.

64 Name: asciic!gy8a4NxnD2 2004-11-29 10:29 ID:Ib5qJOHw [Del]

Yeah. If you have the manga raws, the colour title pages from Chapter 31 show various scenes in the club room on TV screens (including Ohno changing with the curtains shut), but maybe that's just artistic licence.

65 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-30 01:15 ID:7ln1FeKA [Del]

So, what's the intro a parody of?
With the shadows receeding slowly in the room.
Is this a Gundam parody?

66 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-30 04:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

It reminds me of Gunbuster if anything..........

67 Name: Wheeker!NpHAcztVYA 2004-11-30 22:07 ID:4L+TY2Bg [Del]

WAi! I love Ohno...a character I finally can relate to...sigh

68 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-11-30 22:15 ID:0YK4A7Lw [Del]

wheeker digs bald strongmen?

69 Name: Wheeker!NpHAcztVYA 2004-12-03 00:58 ID:Jn+odKXQ [Del]

maybe I do maybe I dont....tho I wish my boobs were bigger than i could totally be her.

70 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-07 11:42 ID:Heaven [Del]

Ohno-tan age

71 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-08 22:59 ID:jUwWfr5A [Del]

OMG age like usual for new fansubbed episode
The extra wallscroll gag at the end was perfect.

72 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-08 23:59 ID:VjmMwF0g [Del]

I liked the Puyo Puyo bit better, myself.

Can't help feeling sorry for Saki-san though. Hopefully, as the post-credit bit hints, she'll at least learn to love the pain.

73 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-12-09 01:10 ID:/eeslJIQ [Del]

> It's amazing that he'd last for 30 minutes!

I lol'd. Also, at the "IMOUTO!?" bit.

74 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 01:50 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

One thing:
the voiceover guy says Saki never played a game again. But the outro shows something different.
Bad translation, bad scripting or comedic lie?

I was surprised at Sasahara, for all his sister bashing, he actually stood for his sister against Saki. And his sentence was very mature, "Please do not hit others for things I have brought on by myself" or some such.

75 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-12-09 02:07 ID:/eeslJIQ [Del]

The ending was probably just meant to be from when she was practicing.

76 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 03:45 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

But up to now, all the endings have been following the story sequence.
story -> ending/outro -> post ending -> preview.

77 Name: asciic!gy8a4NxnD2 2004-12-09 08:52 ID:RYKN6ESA [Del]

ep2 had a scene from the episode (kissing), so it's not unprecedented. But Kugayama and Tanaka weren't there when she was first practicing... maybe it was implying she never played games with Kosaka again?

78 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

> "IMOUTO!?" bit.

what?

Also: Great episode. It's just too bad that the art just won't improve.

79 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:39 ID:VjmMwF0g [Del]

Ep 7 (just out): Kuchiki-san makes my eyes bleed. I mean, most of the lesser characters are badly drawn, but he's not even badly drawn in a decent way like Kugayama. He looks like he crashed in from Family Guy or something.

80 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:40 ID:Heaven [Del]

> But up to now, all the endings have been following the story sequence.

I wouldn't give such formal considerations too much credit. The series hasn't been very consisent with that. For instance, episodes 4 & 5 didn't have any opening scenes before the opening sequence & the theme.

I am thinking that the voice-over guy is just used to create some sort of more epic feel to certain story elements, and since that is always done in an (at least partial) ironic way, I wouldn't rely too much on it as some sort of reliable source.

81 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:41 ID:Heaven [Del]

AAAAAAAAAARGH

> Affected anime series by Media Factory Inc.
> The decision to no longer list any anime series (present and
> future) of Media Factory Inc. currently affects these series:
>
> * Genshiken (including Kujibiki Unbalance)

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83 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 10:09 ID:VjmMwF0g [Del]

Big deal, you have to check another website. Unless Solar drops it.

84 Name: 81 2004-12-09 10:12 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Unless Solar drops it.

Which is exactly what I am fearing.

85 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 13:41 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

>...the art just won't improve.

I think that for a "real life" anime the art doesn't have to be impressive. It's even better as it shifts the emphasis on the story rather than the pretty pictures. The parts where the art has to be real good should be the Kujibiki Unbalance segments, IMO.
Actually, I didn't think the art was bad in ep6. And earlier? The only ep that comes in mind is ep5 [IIRC] where I thought Masarame (sp?) was drawn sloppily, but he wasn't even one of the characters talking. he was a side character in that scene.
Real life isn't always pretty so I wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional, to not try to "beautify" the anime.

86 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-12-09 13:55 ID:U+ad41xg [Del]

>>79

He looks exactly like he looks in the manga. He's supposed to be more crudely drawn than the other characters.

87 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 14:01 ID:Heaven [Del]

> I think that for a "real life" anime the art doesn't have to be impressive.

But it shouldn't be a sub-par, inconsistent, anamotical disaster like it has been for some episodes now, either. Hands being smaller than faces, mouth position wandering within the face without reason, perspectives wrong... &c

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89 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 14:35 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

Eh?
Hands are smaller than faces, you know. ^^;

90 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 14:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

you know if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer

91 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 16:04 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>89-90

Please study anatomy!

92 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 16:08 ID:Heaven [Del]

Also, put your own hand on your face. From wrist to middle finger, it should exactly go from chin to the part of your forehead where your scalp hair begins.

93 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 16:47 ID:Heaven [Del]

Mine's approximately 3/4 of an inch shorter.

Also, 3 inches narrower.

94 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 17:41 ID:JPy3gCqA [Del]

wtf? Everybody is Random Anime Otaku??

95 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 17:41 ID:JPy3gCqA [Del]

test

96 Post deleted by user.

97 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 17:52 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>96

http://4-ch.net/req/kareha.pl/1101590839

Also, custom Anonymous names have been 2ch and world2ch features LONG before 4chan ever came around.

98 Name: FUCK 2004-12-09 22:07 ID:Heaven [Del]

from solar-fansubs.org

As some you might be already aware, Animesuki has received a notice from Mediafactory, Inc. It is a Japanese company which holds copyright to some of the series we've been subbing (Genshiken and Rahxephon). They requested Animesuki to remove the links to the series mentioned.
While we haven't received such a letter so far, it's clear that the company doesn't want their work distributed. So far fansubbers have been operating on a kind of unwritten agreement with the Japanese companies: sub the series, but only until it's licensed. However, this seems to be no longer the case, at least with Mediafactory. Thus we're removing our releases of Genshiken and Rahxephon OVA from BitTorrent and XDCC bots and ask you to stop distribution as well.

99 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 22:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>98

also see : http://www.solar-fansubs.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=119&st=0&#entry885

Anime-Faith still has it listed, though: http://www.anime-faith.com/

Man, this is pissing me off.

100 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:12 ID:Heaven [Del]

Trying to get my hands on some raws for 8 & 9. If my Japanese 301 skills are sufficient to acquire any significant comprehension of the episodes, I'll share it here. Or someone who actually knows the language can beat me to the punch.

101 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:21 ID:Heaven [Del]

Share infos:

Episode 8

[アニメ] げんしけん 第08話 「量産型製造過程における比較研究」 (CTC 640x360 XviD102 qt3) [CRC_65F1].avi NWM1Ro2wJ3to1 273,965,056 143c0765b719a7b8d4da746219b7b7f33532d388

Episode 9

[アニメ] げんしけん 第09話 「特殊閉鎖状況下における説明義務の有無について」 (CTC 640x360 XviD102 qt3) [CRC_A910].avi NWM1Ro2wJ3to1 247,281,664 6423d072878755693e978dca8a0356c57af91ea2

102 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:22 ID:Heaven [Del]

Another heap of Share info:

Episode 8

(アニメ) げんしけん 第08話 「量産型製造過程における比較研究」 (640x360 WMV9 120fps).avi 185,815,040 ebaf5527a6f3296f42cb2f6375882310c505c829

Episode 9

[アニメ] げんしけん 第09話 「特殊閉鎖状況下における説明義務の有無について」 (704x392 WMV9 120fps).avi 160,080,670 7671ad3dd627c580d3153d7e0269547a5e305e55

103 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:23 ID:Heaven [Del]

And another Share batch:

Episode 8

げんしけん 第08話 「量産型製造過程における比較研究」 (640x360 DivX511 120fps TVS).avi 92JeyRfcya 242,424,892 ae351318b4bf1803f379b629b7f6d3227f0d60a1

Episode 9

げんしけん 第09話 「特殊閉鎖状況下における説明義務の有無について」 (640x360 DivX511 120fps TVS).avi 92JeyRfcya 214,992,168 0884fa6541d8560a14b7538910b11461f4ddea12

104 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:35 ID:Heaven [Del]

Don't suppose this Share thing runs on UNIX?

105 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:58 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>104

Ask the people in ttp://tedel.com/shii/download/

106 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-10 10:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

If there are any fansubbers who want to take it on them to continue subbing the series, either with hardsubs or softsubs but certainly without any credits to them as some sort of official fansub group, Share and the English clusters might be the way to go. Does anyone know of anybody being interested in this?

107 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-10 13:37 ID:JPy3gCqA [Del]

Ep7: this time I noticed the "real bad art". ^^;
When the prez arrives in the room - Madarame has a jacket and in the next scene he is wearing a shirt. Also the perspective of the table/room/characters is terrible. Madarame seems to be the one getting the most bad art abuse.
While in other places the art was okay, especially Saki. Lots more effort goes into Saki generally.
Poor Madarame...

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109 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/12(Sun)22:14 ID:Heaven [Del]

Anime-Faith is continuing this as a solo project (state of affairs as of December 10th):

http://www.anime-faith.com/

110 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/17(Fri)07:12 ID:O/YEWZiE [Del]

back on top you go for 08
animation wasn't great, but it had soul unlike the past few episodes
i really like the attention paid (/additions) to madarame's dialogue in this episode

111 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 04/12/17(Fri)16:27 ID:DS4PZJSo [Del]

>unlike the past few episodes

ah come on - all the eps have soul, IMO.

112 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/17(Fri)19:55 ID:Heaven [Del]

i was not referring to the overall soul (i would never insult yokotosama) of previous episodes, simply that the animation was obiviously farted out by a curry robot that was fed kimchee.

113 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/17(Fri)22:16 ID:Heaven [Del]

Seeing the preview at the end of episode 10, do you think Ogiue will make her first real appearance in the anime in that episode? It's basically covering the same episode in the manga.

If not then, hopefully episode 12 then!!!!

114 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/17(Fri)22:27 ID:Heaven [Del]

Also: This bit wasn't exactly the same in the manga: http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/src/1103286102535.jpg

Props to the anime in this regard!

115 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/18(Sat)00:14 ID:Heaven [Del]

lol what

(アニメで英会話) げんしけん Genshiken - 08 「海外におけるAnime文化振興の問題点とその功績」略して「お知らせ」.txt 626 872681969e436e22c1056c8f8374cf19d1aa213b

            お知らせ

Solar が翻訳から撤退し、Anime-Faith の単独翻訳になりました。

それに伴い、第8話からオリジナルのファイル名の形式が変更になりました。
オリジナルのファイル名を残すことにしているので、日本人用のアイキャッチを
付加したファイル名が下記のように変わります。

(アニメで英会話) げんしけん Genshiken - 07 [Solar & Faith].avi

              ↓

(アニメで英会話) げんしけん [A-Faith]Genshiken_08[0C51A46E].avi

何が起きたかお知りになりたい方は、こちらをお読みください。

http://www.animesuki.com/doc.php/legal/mediafactory.html

http://www.anime-faith.com/

116 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/19(Sun)10:10 ID:eAVpRR/e [Del]

1985 genshiken? "otaku no video"

otaking

http://www.gazo-box.com/old-anime/src/1103380392550.wmv

117 Post deleted by user.

118 Name: lolocaust!rsvcwx6Axc 04/12/19(Sun)11:02 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>116

Awesome. I remember watching that anime for the first time. That was 1997..

119 Name: Random Anime Otaku 04/12/26(Sun)13:01 ID:c3BBF0yj [Del]

120 Name: lolocaust!rsvcwx6Axc 04/12/26(Sun)21:58 ID:GFGekKXa [Del]

Ogiue キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!

http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/res/1836.html

121 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/01(Sat)10:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

122 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/01(Sat)17:52 ID:Heaven [Del]

Madarame has issues.

Discuss.

123 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/01(Sat)18:41 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>122

> Otakus have issues.

fixed.

anyhow:

BEST EPISODE &c

Made me laugh and smile a lot. Madarame's "hahaha" dance near the end was the creme on the cake of that episode. Surprisingly good episode for such little plot. Maybe I was pacified by the implied message that Madarame has the hots for Kasukabe - major plot development but not played out, so this episode was more of an overture to the romance (or misery) still to come (plz plz plz season 2!).

124 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/01(Sat)22:30 ID:Heaven [Del]

Also: Madarame is awesome because he is buying his ero doujin with the Society's budget.

125 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/03(Mon)15:35 ID:20o/bnBr [Del]

>>124
He is studying the social place and art style of pornography in the visual culture

126 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/04(Tue)06:42 ID:+XF9DgNz [Del]

Found something interesting in Lament of the Lamb vol 3:

"A child with a mole in the path of their tears is destined to have a sorrowful life full of them." - Japanese proverb

Luckily Ohno-san's seems to be off to the right a little.

127 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/09(Sun)23:24 ID:Heaven

( ・∀・)つ Genshiken AA http://aa5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/kao/1103363034/

128 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/17(Mon)23:40 ID:Heaven

Not to sound impatient but isn't the sub for ep.10 LONG overdue? What's up with faith?

129 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/20(Thu)17:45 ID:/PxjGXga

They're down half their staff, be patient.

130 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/23(Sun)03:59 ID:1OomBwvM

That's no excuse for working on dogshit (To Heart: Remember My Memories) but not comedy gold.

131 Name: <ヽ`∀´> 05/01/23(Sun)06:29 ID:Heaven

>>130

Do you demand apology juice and compensation?

132 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/23(Sun)07:21 ID:Heaven

134 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/23(Sun)18:38 ID:Heaven

yay :D

135 Name: !WAHa.06x36 05/01/23(Sun)21:03 ID:MSsAAfBN

Going to ComiFes with a tan is pretty embarrassing, isn't it?

136 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/24(Mon)04:27 ID:Heaven

I think I'd find just going in the first place embarassing enough...

This ep reminded me of when I look at cosplay photos, and within them see one that's obviously a gal, with really tanned skin and major make up and nails, but dressed as Puchiko or something. Makes me laugh (^-^)

137 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/27(Thu)11:11 ID:Heaven

Episode 11キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━!!!!

http://www.jasio.net/tracker/download.php?id=39&name=%5BA-Faith%5D_Genshiken_11_%5B0F1ECBB2%5D.avi.torrent

And I still haven't watched episode 10 yet!

138 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/27(Thu)12:17 ID:Heaven

Episode 10:

BEST EPISODE EVER!

Lots of nice, good working jokes, a little fanservice, the art was at a good level (only one instance put me off, Madarame's huge head @ 19:51) and the plot and character development was nicely embedded into the episode's storyline. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! Now I am going to watch Episode 11. Here's a thread for pictures of Episode 10, btw:

http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/res/2720.html

139 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/27(Thu)18:33 ID:M6G01Fk6

Episode 11:

BEST CHAIRMAN EVER!

Saki breaks things again, Ohno gets a chance to be assertive, but... cut short?? Crying ASCII, stat!

140 Name: Wheeker!NpHAcztVYA 05/01/27(Thu)22:21 ID:GKYqFyJb

I want Ohno's boobs...T.T

141 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/28(Fri)13:58 ID:Heaven

I want Ohno...T.T

142 Name: Random Anime Otaku 05/01/29(Sat)15:59 ID:Heaven

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