Free as in beer, that is.
After Opera offered free licenses on their 10th anniversary, they have now decided to make their desktop version of their web suite completely free of charge. Opera's main income was from mobile devices all the time, but is this their way of trying to establish a larger user base?
The suite can be downloaded here:
http://opera.com/
(Split off from this post: http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1110769901/73)
As for myself, I am currently running Opera; because it's free, and because the OS X port of Firefox is slow and buggy. Opera runs way faster, is way less bloated, and also surfs faster than Firefox.
I've been a Firefox user since the late Firebird era, and Opera never gave me the same feeling while using it, so I've been holding onto the good old bird because of it's unique feel. In OS X, Firefox doesn't feel the way it did anymore. That's why I will give Opera another try, it's a decent browser after all.
SAFARI IS NOT AN OPTION.
Pretty cool, always nice to have alternatives. It seems fast enough, etc. Just gotta figure out how to customize the toolbar placement more (;´д⊂)...
>>2
What's the prob with safari? I haven't used it for a little while, but previously always found it to be very nice. You are right about the osx firefox though, too clunky (⊃д⊂)...
>>2
tried shiira?
>>3
There are several things that I didn't like in Safari, and while it might be possible to customize the browser, I was not able to make it work the way I wanted it to do.
>>4
Not until now (posting from Shiira). This software has excellent OS X integration, but I'm missing mouse gestures and some other things. Shiira might become my browser of choice if I can alter it to my liking.
I have now installed Cocoa Gestures, and that left me with a pretty nice browser.
>>2: Have you tried Camino? It's a Gecko-based browser but without Firefox's bloat. http://www.caminobrowser.org/
I also find it odd that you can speak of wanting OS X integration, and yet fancy Opera. That program does some rather ugly un-OS X things... Just like Firefox.
>>7
I never said that I wanted OS X integration, did I? It's a nice plus, but I'd probably never use those features anyway. Neither Opera nor Firefox takes any special adventage of OS X, but Opera doesn't act as slow and buggy.
I'll give Camino a chance later.
So software that garishly clashes with the OS is okay with you?! Might wanna go back to Linux.
>>9
Are you only thinking of the visuals? In my opinion, performance is the most important task. It's not like I look at the browser itself either, the first thing for me to do with a browser is to remove all icons. A web browser is something you use to browse the web.
Also, this shareware OmniWeb browser thingie which was supposed to be awesome just sucked, and required paid registration. I don't get it. Why do people want to use something like that. The official website said that every time you use OmniWeb, you'll think "Wow, this rules!"
I bought a Mac to be able to use the Adobe applications at first, but later realized that OS X is utterly awesome. I enjoy working in OS X, isn't that what counts?
Opera has to start focusing on their horrid user interface. To be fair, I haven't used the windows version, but the mac version is awful.
The windows version is wonderful.
At least once I've stripped most of the eyecandy away. What's with this recent desire everyone has to skin their app? Is this Winamp's fault?
I agree that Opera's interface is horrid. The main window has a million buttons that perform actions that are not very clear, and change into other buttons, and generally aren't actually very useful.
The preferences, if I recall correctly, are also a complete mess.
Which is why you customize it.
If you're willing to download extensions to make Firefox usable, why aren't you willing to alter Opera's interface to make it usable?
In any case, 8.0 fixed up a lot of the interface issues.
I don't download extensions to make Firefox usable - it's near perfect out of the box. I download extensions if I want some more esotertic features, and most of the time I don't even bother with that (apart from Flashblock, which really should be part of the base distro).
I've long since gone past the point where I feel I have the time to nurse each program into usability by obsessive tweaking. I want programs that work fine out of the box. Firefox does, which is why hold it in such high respect.
Perfect? Yikes.
I could vent quite a bit of hate about that. FF is positively hostile to dialup users.
I'm not usually on dialup, but even when I am, I've not noticed any problems with the base Firefox setup.