When is a community "dead" (10)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-02-10 17:51 ID:vzXIJ3MU

I've always had trouble defineing the difference between a website that is slow like 4-ch or tgchan, and a website that is dead like 99chan or 7chan

I feel like the unity of the community has a lot to do with it. 4-ch has a "core" group of dedicated users as well as a style of posting that is specific to itself. The threads all feel like they're a part of something greater; as if they were all connected in some way

7chan, whilst it gets more traffic, has no core userbase that consistently returns to it. All of the threads exist in a vacuum, and there's no specific flavor to the content

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-02-21 12:21 ID:DZrv+/qe

Pretty much any web site that's not one of the top 10 is "dead" by the standards of the modern web. This is because everything is considered to be in a constant state of ongoing development and updating, meaning if something isn't growing then there's a problem. This leads to people demanding daily uploads and constant validation, who of course means that to stay up-to-date with goings-on becomes almost a full time job. The idea that you'd only connect to the internet briefly has died, and a computer that doesn't have an internet connection is almost considered half a device these days.

This seems like a tangent, but I think it goes a long way towards answering whether something is dead or not because it demands that standards be set. I'm a "new" user to this site, having only been browsing and posting for about a month, but I have taken to its slower pace and that I don't need to check back in (even at a mental level) every hour.

I think such a usage of the web leads to the best experience for the user in the long-term even if its not as exciting in the short-term.

So I think the question shouldn't really be "is this (or any other) site dead?" and more "should it be like a site that's 'alive' at all?"

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-09 05:32 ID:nyqJjpeF

>>2
I don't think these are reasonable critiques of OP. 7chan, while more active than a site like sekai yon chan is absolutely "dead". What OP identified, I believe, could be better stated as complexity and engagement. It is not entirely requisite that an insular group of posters exist, but it is necessary that their exists some sort of mutual understanding. In a space where everyone is coming and going and there's nothing guiding the discussion the discourse never progresses beyond shallow formalities.

A community, I propose, is dead when new users cannot be added or make substantive contributions.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-28 05:06 ID:7Ly+5IyA

>>3
more like when the old users push newcomers away
then blame the new people rather than admit that they're too deeply ingrained in their old ways and it's off-putting to people who aren't in on all the numerous dumb in-jokes and bizarre expectations

why is this site dying?'' mixed with fuck off, newfag''

adapt or die

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-28 05:06 ID:7Ly+5IyA

I meant: "why is this site dying?" mixed with "fuck off, newfag"

I keep forgetting that this particular textboard has fucked up markup

I'm still thinking in terms of world4ch/tinychan

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-04-28 05:50 ID:Heaven

>>5
You can set no markup

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8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2018-05-30 00:41 ID:DAXaXL8M

This is why chatting like Telegram, IRC, and Discord is so much more popular. It is easier to tell if it is dead or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoonEdit

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-06 12:11 ID:1jB3Z7b4

>>1
I think you had a pretty good handle on a definition in your OP.

The separation occurs between a [dead community] and a [dead website]. They are very different things. You can have an incredibly active website that has less of a community than Facebook. Or a very slow website like 4-ch that has a cohesive flavor and is used by pretty much the same people, or type of people, for decades. The relationships dividing them are simple mathematics.

10 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-09-20 09:54 ID:LynJYcKk

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