Globalisation and neoconservat/liberalism are good things. (20)

6 Name: Citizen : 2008-04-16 18:46 ID:Heaven

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> onoz, south korea has long work hours. I guess that's why they are all trying to sneak their way into North Korea and Vietnam.

South Korea: Better than North Korea.
sorry if that doesn't really impress me. also please address the other points i raised about south korea.

> Chile has one of the the highest economic freedom ratings in the world.

Yes, Friedman's miracle. Twice the GDP of their neighbors, and it only took 20 years of bloodshed. But I'm sure all the dead folks appreciate that their surviving loved ones can buy several different kinds of breakfast cereal (assuming said loved ones are not tremendously poor).

> Chile elected a Moscow crony before the government was overthrown and there is no proof anyone from the CIA had a gun to Pinochet's head and forced him to start a coup.

i'm not even sure what you're arguing here. the cia didn't force pinochet to coup? how is that a negation of the us's responsibility on the matter?

> Chile became a democracy in 1990 after 20 years, North Korea still isn't a democracy after well over 50 years. The free market prevented Pinochet from creating a complete totalitarianism.

you're going to have to explain this one to me

> Do western socialists believe the west exploits poorer nations or that economic interactivity is in fact beneficial to these nations by facilitating the sharing of technology, expertise and investments?

i don't think anyone argues that the people of poorer nations would be better off if we pretended they didn't exist. but that's a false dillema: we don't have to choose between helping them in some ways and harming them in others or doing nothing.

> Or maybe the USSR shouldn't have declared war on Finland?

okay?

> Democracies can declare war on each other, but with poor arguments like this it cannot be said the democracies are equally aggressive to the Stalinist dictatorship

yeah, but you're arguing the end of history sort of thing where once western democracies take over the world, war is over. as that web sight lists, that doesn't happen. even if they aren't as hostile as dictatorships they still can and do make war.

> the Stalinist dictatorship you have just admitted to supporting.

when did this happen?

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