ITT lies about the world we were told growing up (95)

1 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-20 13:25 ID:APwSVyHg

terrorists hate us for our feedom

2 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-20 13:45 ID:Heaven

>>2
It's a lie! They hate of something else.....

3 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-22 19:01 ID:IcBZZ0mV

If you just work hard enough and put your mind to it, you could be President/Prime Minister/Chancellor/King/Oligarch

4 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-23 17:34 ID:yqg7hvZc

>>1

You're right, they hate our "feedom." :P

5 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-23 20:45 ID:zbIuFbZe

i lol'd

6 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-24 15:29 ID:Qfb8gnM9

"America: the land of the free and the home of the brave"

"America: Land of Opportunity"

"Cheaters never prosper"

"The truth is the best policy"

"If you use XTC, your brain will overheat and you will die on the very first pill"

"Marijuana is addictive"

"Marijuana can kill you"

"recycling paper is good for the environment"

"Milk is good for your bones"

"Every vote is important"

"For the people, my the people, of the people"
oh, and dont forget about the food pyramid they teach you about in health class.

7 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-24 16:57 ID:oSQHWTUM

>oh, and dont forget about the food pyramid they teach you about in health class.

Wait what, that's a lie?

8 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-24 20:37 ID:aLJzk4E/

Oh, yeah. It's way overloaded with carbohydrates. Makes you part of the obesity epidemic.

9 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-25 16:44 ID:Qfb8gnM9

>>8

yeppers. thats actually the one we use here in the states. go figure, the people who advocate our food pyramid are the people in the food industry that sell grain. lousy eating. It doesnt even define a serving. Most nutritional experts will warn you not to go by that. The obesity epidemic is what we got after the food pyramid came out in 1992. Thats why our parents and gran parents were thinner. They had real, balanced meals and mandatory gym every year in school. now its only one year of gym in high school and we eat utter crap. most people eat canned garbage like chef boyardee (bleh! i dont allow anyone in my front door with a can of it) or tv dinners like red baron pizza when they dont eat fast food. thats why most of us are fat. Then theres people like me who eat real, wholesome food but our portions are just too fucking big,.

10 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-25 19:07 ID:WMo5WbaW

We're all unique and special individuals.

11 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-26 04:25 ID:B2K0LofH

Diversity is strength.

They bully you because they are jealous.

You learn from your mistakes.

People are naturally good natured.

People are naturally malicious.

Most people are stupid.

Anarchism/nihilism/emo/punk/greenday/fight club is non-conformist.

12 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-26 20:25 ID:WMo5WbaW

There's an old man at the top of the world that keeps tracks of all your good and bad deeds. If you've done good things, he'll reward you. If you've done bad things, you get nothing.

13 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-26 20:56 ID:DrZx72qm

>>11

You DO learn from your mistakes, if you're not an idiot.

People ARE naturally malicious, ignoble, and corrupt.

All people ARE stupid.

14 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-27 16:10 ID:B2K0LofH

>>13
Huh? Are those lies you were told as you were growing up or what?

15 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-28 03:58 ID:J27rv5vG

>>11

How the hell don't you learn from your mistakes?

Sure people might be stubborn as hell, but in general, I'd say we learn from our mistakes. You'd have to be dense not to realize that. If you fuck something up and pay the price for it, chances are you're not going to do that again. If you do do it again and, like last time, fuck it up, then you're an idiot.

16 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-28 08:13 ID:q/7OaEJ5

being headstrong and stubborn is a sign of manliness

Everyone wants to be like america

america is the best country in the world

17 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-28 11:07 ID:Heaven

Turns out a black man didn't invent peanut butter.

18 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-28 13:23 ID:J27rv5vG

The American Civil War was fought over Slavery. WWII was fought because of the Holocaust.

19 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-28 15:53 ID:Qfb8gnM9

If you ignore them, the bullies will leave you alone.

The truth will set you free.

20 Name: Lincoln was a Fag : 2008-07-29 17:50 ID:DrZx72qm

>>18

Protip: You can quibble abou states' rights and tyranny and blah blah blah, but the American Civil War was fought over Slavery. Hurkendur.

The South was locked with the North over "Free soil" legislature, and threats of secession were increasingly common to protest their passage. When California became a state in 1850 with overwhelming support for being a "free state," the balance tipped to the free states' favor at last. From this point on, tensions increased dramatically and fights broke out in congress resulting in serious injuries. Before the civil war, there was a lot of civil strife in the Kansas-Nebraska territories, among other places, over precisely the issue of slavery.

Only an ignorant fool can say the Civil War wasn't about slavery. Sure, there were other factors, but without them the Civil War would have still likely taken place. Without the issue of slavery dividing the country, it never would have happened.

Dumb ass.

21 Name: Lincoln was a Fag : 2008-07-29 17:50 ID:DrZx72qm

>>18

Protip: You can quibble abou states' rights and tyranny and blah blah blah, but the American Civil War was fought over Slavery. Hurkendur.

The South was locked with the North over "Free soil" legislature, and threats of secession were increasingly common to protest their passage. When California became a state in 1850 with overwhelming support for being a "free state," the balance tipped to the free states' favor at last. From this point on, tensions increased dramatically and fights broke out in congress resulting in serious injuries. Before the civil war, there was a lot of civil strife in the Kansas-Nebraska territories, among other places, over precisely the issue of slavery.

Only an ignorant fool can say the Civil War wasn't about slavery. Sure, there were other factors, but without them the Civil War would have still likely taken place. Without the issue of slavery dividing the country, it never would have happened.

Dumb ass.

22 Name: Citizen : 2008-07-29 19:14 ID:J27rv5vG

>>20

I'm the dumb ass? I said that the Civil War was fought over slavery. I never said that it wasn't involved in the lead up to the war or played an important role in dividing the country. But the Union did not go to war to free the slaves as we are taught in our younger years.

23 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-02 02:56 ID:yGla3pJA

You said "The American Civil War was[n't] fought over slavery."

It, in fact, was.

Now you're saying that the Union didn't go to war to free the slaves. Hey, idiot. The south struck first, at Fort Sumter. It was the South who was the aggressor, and they WERE fighting it over slavery.

Thus, the North went in to quell the rebellion and found a convenient moral argument in anti-slavery.

Slavery was at the core of every aspect of the civil war.

24 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2008-08-03 01:55 ID:Heaven

> Hey, idiot.

Classy.

25 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-03 16:10 ID:ahd588q5

Atheist are bad guys...

26 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-06 20:43 ID:ggUsgjPd

>>23

Who cares? America ended up losing that war anyway...

27 Name: oh brother : 2008-08-09 11:12 ID:getg70Br

People living during the American Civil War didn't call it the "Civil War" -- they referred to it as "The War of Emancipation."
So yes, the war was mainly fought over slavery.

28 Name: 13!/iibSBz1i6 : 2008-08-09 13:19 ID:Heaven

Americans are nice people

29 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2008-08-10 19:07 ID:Heaven

> "The War of Emancipation."

Propaganda, man.

30 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-14 13:50 ID:ggUsgjPd

America is the best and mightiest country in the world

Europe is a fools dream

31 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2008-08-14 18:20 ID:Heaven

Well, it's certainly the mightiest -- at least alongside Russia. It has enough nukes to completely carpet any country it wishes -- or the world.

It just lacks political will. Fortunately.

32 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-15 00:10 ID:psNO9193

33 Name: 67!Z.W.btgjGg : 2008-08-15 01:46 ID:Hyr+MGnY

>>31
again, try attack China if you dare....

34 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2008-08-15 15:46 ID:Heaven

>>33
I'm not from the US, bright guy, nor am I a fan of the country.

This is today's reality: nuclear stockpiles in the US and Russia dwarf everybody else's. That includes China.

35 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-16 13:39 ID:IcBZZ0mV

>>31,34
When the amount of times a country can kill everyone on earth over with nukes ever becomes a factor in judging it's military prowess, you just let us know.

Until then, just a few nuclear ICBMs are enough to secure your don't-fuck-with-us status.

36 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-17 23:17 ID:ggUsgjPd

>>34

Mutual assured destruction, pretty much makes having them worthless... yet NOT having them a weakness.

37 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2008-08-18 17:36 ID:Heaven

>>35
It's not a major factor because of lack of political will.

Fortunately.

38 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-19 02:26 ID:Heaven

>>36

But one day someone will use them for the lulz, and it will be a sad day.

39 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-20 15:35 ID:PRNAFDmv

>>36
that would mean that having nuclear weapons is not worthless.

also, a lie from my childhood: "[America] is a free country".

40 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-21 00:50 ID:m8Ikc3lo

That we live in a democracy.

Pretty much everything they ever said about drugs and sex in health class.

41 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-21 20:19 ID:pl5mjtCt

>>40
nods

42 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-22 11:32 ID:+ZDhJSem

Just to say, the civil war was fought over the issue of slavery, but it was only an actual war to prevent the south from seceding. The WAR was over keeping the nation together, even though the main issue generating the ideological split was slavery. The war itself was then attributed more directly to the idea of freeing slaves for propaganda purposes (it looks so much nicer than WE DON'T WANT THEM LEAVIN' OUR CLUB BECUS THEY LIEK OWNIN SLAVES BUT WE DUNT).

43 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-26 15:20 ID:nZstlKz+

>>42

Actually, a lot of northerners liked the idea of owning slaves as well. It's that "northerner" really meant "urban dweller", and it was inconvenient to own slaves.

Furthermore, while many negros were slaves, there were in fact black slavemasters as well. See:

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

for some details about that.

The American Civil War always was about taxation. Washington continued to increase taxes to cover increased armament and social programs that many southerners thought benefitted more urban (northern) populations more. They were probably right, so they formed the confederacy with the goal of seceding from the union, and keeping federal taxation minimal.

The emancipation proclaimation was a kind of a hail-mary play; Lincoln, a white supremecist, became sympathetic with the idea as a means to preserve unity. It worked, but the reprecussions are still felt today- other countries were able to abolish slavery by expiration, something that probably would've done a lot to resolve racial tensions in the US. Instead, using the abolishion as a weapon did nothing to empower blacks, and probably caused more to promote racial segregation than the slavery itself.

44 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-26 20:03 ID:Heaven

>>43
doesn't explain things like bloody kansas and the compromise of 1850.
of course the northerners were horrible people. it was the 19th century, everyone with the exception of a few dozen philosophers and men of letters were human waste. but to say that it wasn't about slavery is a lie.

45 Name: Citizen : 2008-08-28 08:49 ID:Heaven

Yeah, what >>40 said about the drugs and the sex. Also alcohol.

...

And that it wouldn't hurt once I bit the pillow.

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