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1: [User input] Please post your thoughts on these pressing matters (18) 2: [Spam] Moderation requests [Cleanup] (441) 3: Write me a list of things broken and wrong with the site. (81) 4: [Suggestion] Otaku Board (12) 5: [SSL][HTTPS]I'd love to access 4-ch.net securely.[Encryption][Using 4-ch at work] (8) 6: 【Unworkable】Thread overlap (2) 7: A New Hope (2) 8: delete my profile and post (2) 9: /sexual/ links (10) 10: Banners (11) 11: 2ch portal update please? (14) 12: [Handheld] The mobile reader support and requests thread (61) 13: Let me post a new thread (3) 14: /dqn/ requires another move of old threads to the archive. (1) 15: How can I/we help 4ch? (21) 16: Problem with Mercury.css maybe? (2) 17: I wish for many boards (3) 18: RSS on /dqn/ is broken. (1) 19: WebIRC (1) 20: Please unban me from #4-ch! (3) 21: auto board (1) 22: A Single kareha board in image mode. (3) 23: [SIDE MENU] Web chat (2) 24: [INFO] Questions about board usage [I BEG OF YOU] (2) 25: Images & Boardtitles (6) 26: Captcha refreshing not working... (3) 27: [SUGGESTION] New boards (16) 28: I request for 4ch to become less restrictive again (16) 29: verification codes don't work in safari 3 (mac) (3) 30: Board dedicated to drugs (5) 31: [Users] We need more. (11) 32: [Confusion] Spam and Troll Policy (1) 33: requesting removal of thread (2) 34: Paranormal board? (4) 35: I want a way to delete misfires (2) 36: Front page change (5) 37: Nuke Romance (3) 38: Please ban religion threads in /science/ (4) 39: I think 4-ch has too many boards and it is ruining our sense of community and togetherness (8) 40: About 4-ch mascot (4)

[User input] Please post your thoughts on these pressing matters (18)

1 Name: bps : 2014-03-06 14:11 ID:Heaven

If you have strong (or weak) opinions on any of the following things, I would like to hear what you think!

  1. Probably some of you have noticed that DQN takes ages to fully load. This is because the old hit counter image (the frying pan thingy) has stopped working. Should I remove it altogether? Replace it with a new one? If so, what, and does it matter that the counter is reset? Maybe I could just put a fake one there as a sort of memorial, with some fake number? In any case the loading thing bothers me a lot.
  2. Is it time the default anonymous name on DQN is changed again? What would you like to see it changed to, if at all?
  3. Banners! Should we have a competition or something? Do you prefer things as they are? Please see this thread for more info: http://4-ch.net/req/kareha.pl/1393544046/
  4. Has anybody noticed any spam since the new year/change of server? Are you happy with the level of moderation (or lack thereof)?
  5. Any other thoughts/suggestions? Even super trivial ones.

I'll monitor this for a long time and act accordingly if people have any input.

9 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-05-04 19:30 ID:I3cCZrsL

>>8
I've been meaning to do this for some time already (I think I mentioned it on IRC or some other thread here), but I was referring to a different loading issue in >>1 (i.e. not when posting but just browsing).

Anyway, I will archive things eventually.

10 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-05-13 23:39 ID:RQaRQ4iZ

11 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2014-06-12 22:29 ID:5yEsSE5G

>>10
These scripts are still sitting on the server, so I will make a note to reintroduce them publicly. I guess this will coincide with me actually archiving the old parts of DQN. The academic year is almost over for me so I'll do it soon.

12 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-06-20 13:40 ID:Heaven

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13 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-08-18 16:15 ID:qOpX/0if

From my understanding of how Kareha works, the amount of threads shouldn't increase the time it takes for the script to run in most cases. The entire board's cache shouldn't be rebuilt on each post, just the the actual thread, subback.html, the board index. You guys should try and profile what's actually happening when you experience slowdown so you can fix (or ask someone to fix) the problem at its root.

14 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2015-08-07 12:36 ID:5yEsSE5G

>>13
I have fixed the long loading time that occurred when posting on DQN (or any other large board, if one existed). A description of the problem:

Every time a post was made, Kareha would iterate through every thread on that board and check its number of posts, age, and filesize. If any of these values exceeded a maximum defined in the board's configuration file, then the script would close the thread. The problem is that Kareha was closing already closed threads, which involves rewriting that thread's file. The solution was to not do anything if the thread was already closed, which cut loading time by a good 20-30 seconds on DQN.

15 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-07 15:10 ID:1K0hmpZd

>>14
Gosh, thanks! Keep up the good work.

16 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2015-08-25 13:16 ID:ZrTMoPi3

Hi again guys. I want to ask your opinion on a new feature:

For each post, how about putting at the bottom of it (or at the end of the line with name, date, ID, etc.) a list of posts that quote it? For example if >>2 and >>3 quote >>1, then underneath >>1 there would be something like: Replies: >>2, >>3.

Another cool thing I have wanted to do for a while is this hover-preview of posts that you get on some imageboards. If I hover over a link >>1, then I get a pop-up box next to the link showing the actual post >>1. This requires JavaScript so I understand that it might not be so popular. But it might make navigation a bit more natural, since when you click a post link, it will take you to a new page showing only that post. I think this behaviour is a bit outdated (although I don't intend to change it).

Let me know what you think!

17 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-25 13:31 ID:nUVZXXoy

>>16
I find both suggestions sound. Make it so.

18 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-09-03 22:47 ID:gEhvz6k8

>>16
I'm not particularly fussed either way about the listing replies thing, but the hovering to show posts sounds like an excellent idea.

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[Spam] Moderation requests [Cleanup] (441)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2006-06-15 12:32 ID:4tY/FN8M

If you spot something that needs moderator attention, post about it here.

Specify the exact thread and post number(s) if possible.

432 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-07 15:55 ID:jAWXOlRs

>>431 thank you, I may need it sooner than I would like.

433 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-08 06:44 ID:0Sfzp5XL

435 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-24 07:45 ID:AUv2aJWu

436 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-30 14:08 ID:izu3htUm

437 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-30 14:52 ID:fnTTkNEa

438 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-09-01 10:13 ID:ipCab/0r

439 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-09-02 11:10 ID:T0DXe8SH

440 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-09-03 12:05 ID:shPd2cIR

http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1440684211/

>>97 spam

sorry to ask this every day, this spammer is getting annoying

441 Name: Some mod : 2015-09-03 17:31 ID:Z2vkN/T+

>>440
Yeah, that spammer keeps falling through.
I think maybe bps changed something in the moderation system.
I'll try to ban that spammer in every board now, instead of globally.

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Write me a list of things broken and wrong with the site. (81)

1 Name: Squeeks 2006-02-09 17:49 ID:RQUdcHCi

It seems everytime I bring up a big problem, 4-ch'ers think it's a good time to go ahead and blurt out all the little problems, so on Monday I get some time off work. So that means, I'll have some time to fix minor things, etc. So, list for me, in as much detail necessary all the things that are broken, missing, not working, changes etc and I'll try to get them all done on Monday. I might also look at taking down the site for a while, upgrading all the boards to the latest copy of Kareha etc.

And please, don't shit this thread up, I will be liberal in deleting posts that are blatantly offtopic or stupid.

72 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-02-08 13:16 ID:rIz5Mulr

Going to http://4-ch.net/nihongo/ shows me some thread about Sony, while http://4-ch.net/nihongo/subback.html shows me the index page. What's up with that?

73 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-02-08 14:46 ID:Heaven

>>72
Seems to be resolved now, never mind.

74 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2011-04-12 01:11 ID:Xu+s3EYM

Captcha is being a whore on /dqn/

75 Name: Brandy Bogard!fi.Jek4HW6!!gGKYHXFO : 2011-04-12 01:12 ID:Xu+s3EYM

>>74
Disregard that one (i made that post,) it's working now.

76 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-12 13:42 ID:63nsNd6G

See http://4-ch.net/req/kareha.pl/1439373011/
After >>2 was made clicking in the text boxes takes you to http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1439382507/
That stopped happening after >>3 was made

77 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2015-08-12 14:45 ID:M/14LVA1

>>76
Can you explain to me how you made the original link (in >>2), so that I can reproduce this bug and try to fix it? Thanks.

78 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-12 15:06 ID:63nsNd6G

79 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-12 15:13 ID:63nsNd6G

With formatting set to HTML obviously

80 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-08-12 18:54 ID:63nsNd6G

I didn't know that you can just type out the link

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[Suggestion] Otaku Board (12)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-04-12 14:05 ID:5CQ9D/b9

Okay, here's the reasoning: I know that a lot of users over here consider themselves otaku or hikkikomori. I'm not here to discuss if this is justified or not, it has been done many times already on almost every thread on the subject.

No, here's my point: take a look at the "hobbies" board. Take a look at the "personnal issues" board. The first one is cluttered by "weeaboo" threads that are often quite redundant, and the second with "halp I'm hikki" threads, that are also quite redundant. Well, why not, after all, it's the way the community is composed right now I guess.

But there is a problem; I really think this community isn't FULL of otaku and hikkikomori. Well, I am not one. And a lot of people can get sick of trying to access a board, only to see the frontpage full of threads about otaku. So it can either discourage people of contributing, and could also drive some nice and interesting people out instead of drawing them in, because they will think "oh, that's an otaku-filled BBS" instead of "oh, that's an anonymous BBS". When I see a thread starting with "hello fellow otaku" in the "hobbies" section, it makes me cringe; this makes the assumption that everyone browsing the page is an otaku.

Seriously, it doesn't have to be like this. What I'm proposing is not intended to be a form of ghettoisation, but rather a commonplace for people to discuss this lifestyle (I suppose it would go under that category), be it an issue to them or not, to give the other boards a little room to breathe. I also know the flux of posters will also decrease, and maybe the boards will move a little slower in the other sections as well, but I believe this would be short-term. So in short:

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3 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-04-13 01:40 ID:IG1uN0+v

I don't think it would work. You'll end up having to be picky and choosy about everything.

A lot of the people in the self proclaimed "hikkikomori" threads aren't necessarily otaku, just like all hikkikomori aren't otaku in Japan. Also, it's important and sensible for "otaku" with personal issues to discuss them with more than just otaku.

Looking at /hobbies/, I would say maybe half the threads are "otaku" related, and they're clearly obvious. I dunno, maybe it would make sense to split it if there were a whole lot of people posting with both otaku, and non-otaku stuff, but right now it wouldn't.

4 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-04-13 02:43 ID:IorWJx40

Isn't this what IAA already is?

5 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-04-13 02:43 ID:5CQ9D/b9

>>3
Well looking at /hobbies/ right now we can see for the first ten threads:

1: trip to london or japan (14) -- japan in the title
2: [Looking for Group] With our powers combined... Otakings! [Garage Sales] (35) -- self-explanatory
3: Weeaboo... they just want to be Japanese, or any Asian is okay? (44) -- self-explanatory
4: Smoking (11) -- non-otaku
5: Hair Styles (25) -- quest for the jrocker hairstyle
6: Is anyone good with designing paper crafts, paper goods etc? (6) -- non-otaku, at least not directly
7: Please help! I don't want to be an otaku anymore! (91) -- self-explanatory
8: [Anime] Mobile Suit Models!!! [Otaku] (36) -- self-explanatory
9: OCD (12) -- self-explanatory
10: evolving otaku (14) -- self-explanatory

Now, I must say I agree with you on the fact that people having "hikkikomori" issues aren't necessarily otaku (note, I'm using the western meaning of the term here), but sincerely - the simple fact that they use "hikkikomory" and not "social reject", "recluse", or whatever... that gives a lot. But I agree, these people need input from other kind of people than your average otaku/channer. So why not, maybe we can keep them in /personal/.

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6 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-06-12 11:52 ID:atR3DFgU

>>1
Hobbyists = Otaku
People who think Otaku = ANIME MANIAC are not real otaku.

That case is clear I guess.
We already have a wota board.
Me as wota, I am around "Hobbies" alot.

7 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-08-05 11:32 ID:tBEjwQAq

>>6
Yeah, but most people think otaku = extreme weeaboo.
And I know that this board is based of a japanese BBS, and I do enjoy a lot of japanese things, but it pisses me off that everything over here revolves around japan, y'know?

8 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2008-12-06 09:40 ID:Heaven

It'd possibly help if there were eastern and western-flavored boards, I know a lot of people scream WEEABOO! every time someone who likes the eastern flavor posts about it...

One drawback, of course, would be that people would probably disregard it and post about Japanese things on the western discussion boards and get WEEABOO! shouted at them in all caps anyway, and people who aren't hardcore fans of the east might stand out on the eastern boards and create complaints like, "This is OTAKU BOARD, u dont have a lunchbox its a BENTO BOX DX"...

I admit I like certain Japanese things, some anime, and this style of message board, but it does get old after a while, feeling unable to escape AnimeJapaneseFantasyland stuff anywhere I look on here.

9 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-06-17 17:00 ID:G5p6qxR2

A good first step would be to merge the anime and manga boards into anime/manga, and we could call that board "Otaku".

10 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-07-17 21:02 ID:Heaven

>>8
And what's exactly the 「western flavor?」

What is 「the east,」 japan? And what is japan, animei and manga?

Dumb every way you look at it.

The idea of 「Wannabe japanese」 and the term 「otaku」 have been taken too seriously, given way too much attention.

11 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-07-17 21:04 ID:w1lzdqIi

>>9
Better, I think, would be to cut off this shit and bury anime and manga into more general animation and 「story drawings」 boards. I suppose most wouldnt want to see shit about superhero comics, but it could just say thats not allowed.

12 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2015-08-07 12:29 ID:cT8oVd0G

>>9
I am open to this idea.

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[SSL][HTTPS]I'd love to access 4-ch.net securely.[Encryption][Using 4-ch at work] (8)

1 Name: 🔰!ESpeoN/nPA : 2011-04-14 14:32 ID:zAPdWXcp

Is it possible to implement HTTPS for the brighter future? For example, these guys even offer a disgustingly free one: http://www.startssl.com/

It would be horrible if KGB, employer or some kind of international conspiracy discover that I read DQN all day. There are probably some other users who need this protection as well.

2 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2013-06-28 20:04 ID:4BWjVxX6

Any updates on this, Squeaks?

I notice that https://4-ch.net does work, but it loads a blank page and uses an outdated security certificate.

3 Name: bps : 2014-01-03 16:35 ID:Heaven

I will look into this, but if it's implemented it'd just be a self-signed certificate.

4 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-01-09 03:30 ID:Heaven

Don't self sign when there is either CACert or StartSSL.

5 Name: bps : 2014-01-24 12:15 ID:Heaven

>>4
I'm not keen on StartSSL because after a year you have to start paying, meaning we are back to square one. CACert looks promising - I will look into it.

6 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-12-25 02:11 ID:8/7KP7Gp

7 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-06-19 03:46 ID:8/7KP7Gp

https://letsencrypt.org/ will be launching in september. any chance of progress on this when that happens? it's completely free, and unlike cacert, will be trusted by default by browsers.

8 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2015-08-03 01:34 ID:3Lygjly2

>>7
Very interesting. Maybe I can use this, when it launches.

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【Unworkable】Thread overlap (2)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-07-23 02:17 ID:utwRtjMC

There's a lot of overlap with current boards and there always will be, the only solution is to be able to make a thread on multiple boards, using Unix hardlinks.

2 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2015-08-07 12:27 ID:Heaven

That sounds quite confusing.

I don't think Channel4 is ready for such extreme levels of change.

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A New Hope (2)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-06-13 20:19 ID:RNc7bgSl

We need to delete all of the old posts on every board. Everyone is bumping old threads made in 2005 and this means new discussion and threads don't happen, and the ancient atmosphere keeps newcomers away. So if all the posts were deleted, that would be very nice, we could start anew, and fresh.

2 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2015-07-17 20:17 ID:lNSk9dre

yeah, maybe archiving threads made before 2015 would be cool

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delete my profile and post (2)

1 Name: keon karma : 2014-07-14 21:01 ID:S6QzYrZx

hi
i want my post deleted please,
i cant seem to delete it, so im asking you.
my post was:
Name: keonkarma : 2012-10-21 19:30 ID:Tn5vFjDg

please delete it

thanks

2 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-07-31 21:47 ID:aM7V2yh8

This is the post, http://4-ch.net/love/kareha.pl/1350847828/
Now, I'm wondering >>1, why do you want this post deleted? There's lots of google hits on "keonkarma" about a gay guy searching for other gays, why do you think it's 4-ch that damages your reputation? lol.

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/sexual/ links (10)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2013-03-19 03:36 ID:/P/xMXqv

Since /sexual/ is dead can you remove the links to it on the main page?

2 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2013-08-13 20:27 ID:EfH+nIPj

I suggest that too

3 Name: bps : 2014-01-01 23:09 ID:Heaven

Done.

4 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-01-03 10:14 ID:Heaven

Team Channel4 works fast!

5 Name: bps : 2014-01-03 18:07 ID:Heaven

You bet.

6 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-02-27 23:32 ID:ju2t7Q1w

Maybe you can also remove the references from /love/ and /personal/?

7 Name: bps : 2014-03-06 13:51 ID:Heaven

>>6
I crossed out the bullet points linking people to /sexual/ rather than deleting them altogether, since it seems strange to remove all evidence of its existence. Also, do you think I should put an index page under /sexual/ saying "this board no longer exists", rather than just letting it throw a 404 error?

8 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-04-26 03:43 ID:FxZU7Ia2

I think so. And telling why it doesn't exist anymore might be cool as well!

9 Name: Squeeks : 2014-05-05 14:18 ID:Q4Q/h0yh

>>8

The board was part the reason why I lost AdSense, but more significantly in part because quite a few paedo/predatory threads started up and I realised just deleting them would either make people get angry and scream censorship, or otherwise continue to happen in my absence. The board was hidden initially, but when I was cleaning up the data to hand over to bps, decided it probably shouldn't be carried over.

10 Name: keon karma : 2014-07-14 20:59 ID:2W2l9a6a

hi
i want my post deleted please,
i cant seem to delete it, so im asking you.
my post was:
Name: keonkarma : 2012-10-21 19:30 ID:Tn5vFjDg

please delete it

thanks

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Banners (11)

1 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-02-27 23:34 ID:mVP8U2pD

What do you think? Should we make some?

2 Name: bps : 2014-03-06 13:43 ID:Heaven

Like /code/ has, or like /dqn/, or something else? Can you elaborate or give an example? I'm open to the idea if they look good and fit!

3 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-04-09 10:53 ID:5DtlCWfK

I can see 日本語 getting active again now that /lang/@world4ch is no longer in use. Maybe we can do a few banners for more popular boards or we can submit just a few examples ITT

4 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2014-04-12 15:52 ID:Heaven

I'm glad to see /nihongo/ getting some use!

I think it is more suitable for the discussion for each board's banner to take place on the board itself (since perhaps the users won't otherwise see it, or maybe they don't even want one!).

I will start with /nihongo/ as a trial for what is a relatively active board on this site (ignoring DQN) and see how it goes. If it's successful then we'll move onto other boards and see if there's any interest.

As always, this process may take a while.

5 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2014-04-12 16:12 ID:Heaven

Thread made: http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1397319052/l50

I do fear that the recent activity was just a short burst, though...

6 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-04-23 18:19 ID:Q4SMeL22

The "Ask Questions" thread ported over from world4ch might drive in some of the old users once they become aware of its new location.

However, if you guys want to see Japanese posters back on /nihongo/ you should consider developing support for showing flags or at least text displaying the poster's location.

From those I've had the pleasure of discussing the important topic of Internet BBS posting with, knowing the nationality of other posters is one of their favorite features.

7 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-04-26 19:38 ID:0NsrbagK

>>6

> From those I've had the pleasure of discussing the important topic of Internet BBS posting with, knowing the nationality of other posters is one of their favorite features.

Some poster maybe don't want others to know their location.
Maybe you can work with IDs here. On 2ch there is this thing that if you post from overseas your ID ends with ! I think. Or you could enable it by writing 'flag' or something in the email field. Just don't make it permanent and mandatory for everyone

8 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-04-27 11:06 ID:Q4SMeL22

>>7
You raise a good point. Honestly, I thought only enabling the feature on language boards, as the location of posters can be fairly relevant to the discourse there.

As with IDs, couldn't flags be disabled when posting with sage for the privacy-minded users?

9 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-04-29 16:02 ID:YxJg+QqS

>>8
That could work.

10 Name: bps!!+u1+mB+S (Admin) : 2014-05-06 13:42 ID:Heaven

I like the way >>8 puts it. Stay tuned!

11 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2014-05-29 13:08 ID:aoRRMYO4

>>6
eww how disgusting

>>8
then if you dont make your location known you will be taken less seriously by some, like, it will encourage that
but the language board is just for "how you say cocksucking in your language" threads anyway

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